Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Hmmm... Maybe just reach in there and pull on something, anything... JUST KIDDING! Though I'd be tempted if it were mine... -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O$I9AM74HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the > mobo > | battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder > if > | the manual mentions it... > | > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > > > Batteries? Yep first response. Apparently too difficult [CMOS/BIOS]. And > the main battery is dead... > > From: "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> > References: <FA0DFC70-F25E-4665-A5C9-319EEF1A5B5E@microsoft.com> > > Message-ID: <u#gdvR4xHHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > | > | "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message > | news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > | > I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: > | > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf > | > > | > From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, > I > | > may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. > | > > | > -- > | > > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > | > Conflicts start where information lacks. > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > | > > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > | > > | > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | >> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? > | >> > | >> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, > it's > | >> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this > with > | >> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the > | >> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an > old > | >> man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) > | >> > | >> -- > | >> Gary S. Terhune > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | >> http://www.grystmill.com > | >> > | >> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> > wrote > | >> in message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... > | >>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the > BIOS/CMOS > | >>>setup > | >>> program. > | >>> > | >>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. > | >>> -- > | >>> A story of success always has a beginning. > | >>> > | >>> > | >>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | >>> > | >>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would > you > | >>>> want > | >>>> to? > | >>>> > | >>>> -- > | >>>> Gary S. Terhune > | >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User > | >>>> http://www.grystmill.com > | >>>> > | >>>> "BinaryConverted" > | >>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote > in > | >>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... > | >>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. > | >>>> > > | >>>> > That one resolved itself. > | >>>> > > | >>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. > | >>>> > Is there any way at all? > | >>>> > -- > | >>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. > | >>>> > > | >>>> > > | >>>> > "PCR" wrote: > | >>>> > > | >>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | >>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com > | >>>> >> | "MEB spewed: > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud > you > | >>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, > I > | >>>> >> was > | >>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you > didn't > | >>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this > group, > | >>>> >> we > | >>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to > understand > | >>>> >> and > | >>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME > of > | >>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we > but > | >>>> >> in > | >>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking > and > | >>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your > | >>>> >> abilities > | >>>> >> | to understand... > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for > | >>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you > need > | >>>> >> to > | >>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand > SRTSP, > | >>>> >> apply > | >>>> >> | them." - > MBE ----------------------------------------------------- > | >>>> >> | > | >>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? > | >>>> >> > | >>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a > Startup > | >>>> >> Diskette...?... > | >>>> >> > | >>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from > | >>>> >> "Control > | >>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the > | >>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. > | >>>> >> > | >>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a > listing? > | >>>> >> > | >>>> >> -- > | >>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, > | >>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, > | >>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, > | >>>> >> Should things get worse after this, > | >>>> >> PCR > | >>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net > | >>>> >> > | >>>> >> > | >>>> >> > | >>>> > | >>>> > | >>>> > | >> > | >> > | > > | > | > >
Guest Brian A. Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Perhaps another "Burn in hell" is warranted, from the manual: Problem: Every time the computer is turned on, the date and time have to be set. Possible cause: Real-time clock battery is at the end of its life. Solution: Call your Compaq authorized service provider to replace real-time clock battery. On another note, they do have an Fn key that they use in combo with other keys and at least one combo locks/unlocks the kb/mouse. Couldn't find anything I thought was relevant to locking/unlocking F keys though. I'm going to have another go-round to see if I can find info on the CMOS battery. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo battery? > Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if the manual > mentions it... > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message > news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf >> >> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I may be in >> err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. >> >> -- >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } >> Conflicts start where information lacks. >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? >>> >>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used >>> on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was >>> that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough >>> all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in >>> message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup >>>> program. >>>> >>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. >>>> -- >>>> A story of success always has a beginning. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want >>>>> to? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://www.grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> "BinaryConverted" >>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in >>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >>>>> > >>>>> > That one resolved itself. >>>>> > >>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >>>>> > Is there any way at all? >>>>> > -- >>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > "PCR" wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >>>>> >> | "MEB spewed: >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was >>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we >>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and >>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in >>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities >>>>> >> | to understand... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to >>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply >>>>> >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup >>>>> >> Diskette...?... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control >>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >>>>> >> Should things get worse after this, >>>>> >> PCR >>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Brian A. Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! HAH!!!! Found and now posted. See 7.10 Lithium Real Time Clock Battery: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00139858/c00139858.pdf -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the mobo battery? > Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? Wonder if the manual > mentions it... > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message > news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf >> >> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I may be in >> err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. >> >> -- >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } >> Conflicts start where information lacks. >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? >>> >>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's only used >>> on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with you recently, or was >>> that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the make/model? Have we been thorough >>> all this already? (Have pity on an old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in >>> message news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS setup >>>> program. >>>> >>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. >>>> -- >>>> A story of success always has a beginning. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want >>>>> to? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>> http://www.grystmill.com >>>>> >>>>> "BinaryConverted" >>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in >>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >>>>> > >>>>> > That one resolved itself. >>>>> > >>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >>>>> > Is there any way at all? >>>>> > -- >>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > "PCR" wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >>>>> >> | "MEB spewed: >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you >>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was >>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't >>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we >>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and >>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in >>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities >>>>> >> | to understand... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to >>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply >>>>> >> | them." - MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> | >>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup >>>>> >> Diskette...?... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control >>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >>>>> >> Should things get worse after this, >>>>> >> PCR >>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest 98 Guy Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! John wrote: > So I can tell you what - No, I'll tell you what. Why don't you stop wasting space by posting unintelligible junk?
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 21, 2007 Posted August 21, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Now, THAT'S what I call dedication!!! Bravo! -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message news:%23rsrkR94HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > HAH!!!! Found and now posted. > See 7.10 Lithium Real Time Clock Battery: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00139858/c00139858.pdf > > -- > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > Conflicts start where information lacks. > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:e6PaaG74HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yeah, I remember now. Has anyone suggested removing and replacing the >> mobo battery? Or is that just too hard to deal with on that machine? >> Wonder if the manual mentions it... >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message >> news:O$wPa664HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I've supplied a link earlier to the manual for his laptop: >>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf >>> >>> From all I've read on it I believe it had Win95 originally installed, I >>> may be in err though and F10 is the only key mentioned. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } >>> Conflicts start where information lacks. >>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ >>> >>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >>> >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:u$k8WE64HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> BinaryConverted converted to John... What's next? >>>> >>>> Seriously, F10 isn't he only way to get into BIOS. In fact, AFAIK, it's >>>> only used on older Compaqs. Have we already gone through all this with >>>> you recently, or was that someone else? It's a laptop? You have the >>>> make/model? Have we been thorough all this already? (Have pity on an >>>> old man with a brain like Swiss cheese.) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>> http://www.grystmill.com >>>> >>>> "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> >>>> wrote in message >>>> news:64E8F4FE-6707-4415-8037-B27F2D78688F@microsoft.com... >>>>>I need to access it from Windows because F10 won't start the BIOS/CMOS >>>>>setup >>>>> program. >>>>> >>>>> And now, everything causes a blank screen, even at startup. >>>>> -- >>>>> A story of success always has a beginning. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would >>>>>> you want >>>>>> to? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune >>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "BinaryConverted" >>>>>> <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote >>>>>> in >>>>>> message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com... >>>>>> > Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > That one resolved itself. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows. >>>>>> > Is there any way at all? >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > A story of success always has a beginning. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > "PCR" wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> >> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com >>>>>> >> | "MEB spewed: >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud >>>>>> >> you >>>>>> >> |> as semi-intelligent,,, >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | "Well, let's review your history here... >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I >>>>>> >> was >>>>>> >> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you >>>>>> >> didn't >>>>>> >> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required .... >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this >>>>>> >> group, we >>>>>> >> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to >>>>>> >> understand and >>>>>> >> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of >>>>>> >> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture... >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but >>>>>> >> in >>>>>> >> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and >>>>>> >> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your >>>>>> >> abilities >>>>>> >> | to understand... >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | Shall I go through other of your posts here????? >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for >>>>>> >> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem.... >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need >>>>>> >> to >>>>>> >> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, >>>>>> >> apply >>>>>> >> | them." - >>>>>> >> MBE ----------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> | >>>>>> >> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a >>>>>> >> Startup >>>>>> >> Diskette...?... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from >>>>>> >> "Control >>>>>> >> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the >>>>>> >> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> Thanks or Good Luck, >>>>>> >> There may be humor in this post, and, >>>>>> >> Naturally, you will not sue, >>>>>> >> Should things get worse after this, >>>>>> >> PCR >>>>>> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest John Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Anger Management! Re: Anger Management! Relax... You are tense! > Why don't you stop wasting space by posting unintelligible junk? Why don't you go away and bug somebody else? > No, I'll tell you what. Don't tell me what - You don't know ANYTHING about computers. -- A story of success always has a beginning.
Guest John Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? Thank You MEB! It solved the problem. It looks like everything is working perfectly and the drivers are up-to-date. ----- Note to 98 Guy: Reply to this post and be considered UN-WELCOME. -- A story of success always has a beginning. "MEB" wrote: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96537&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 - > Download drivers and software > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/ProductList.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 - > Armada general - locate files > > > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to. > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer > will > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. > | > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? > | --------- > | "Brian A." wrote: > | > | > From the manual: > | > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, > follow these > | > steps: > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. > (Or turn on > | > power.) > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of > the screen. > | > > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. > If you do not > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again. > | > > | > > | > -- > | > > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > | > Conflicts start where information lacks. > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > | > > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > | > > | > > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com... > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into > BIOS/CMOS > | > > setup... > | > > > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't! > | > > > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and > reply. > | > > Thank you for the link. > | > > > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | > > > | > >> Maybe this will help you. > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap > | > >> > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work? > | > >> > | > >> -- > | > >> Gary S. Terhune > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > >> > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com... > | > >> > Model Number? Sure! > | > >> > > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT > | > >> > > | > >> > Hope it helps! > | > >> > > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | > >> > > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know > what > | > >> >> model > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for > replacing the > | > >> >> BIOS > | > >> >> battery that I came across: > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, > but has > | > >> >> some interesting hints. > | > >> >> > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you > disconnect the > | > >> >> main > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, > there's > | > >> >> not > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- > those > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on. > | > >> >> > | > >> >> -- > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > >> >> > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com... > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key > | > >> >> > combination! > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no > instructions, > | > >> >> > no > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc. > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see > if my > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large > amounts > | > >> >> > of > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS > | > >> >> > Setup. > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000. > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote: > | > >> >> > > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> >| > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the > battery in > | > >> >> >> >the > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all. > | > >> >> >> > > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new > defect* > | > >> >> >> > rather > | > >> >> >> > than > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication > that the > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked. > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset > to its > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g > different > | > >> >> >> hard > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly > assumed > | > >> >> >> to > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped > working. > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the > settings are > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what > the > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead > then it > | > >> >> >> will > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the > BIOS > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the > problem > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced. > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having > checked > | > >> >> >> the > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly > you'd > | > >> >> >> want > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's > diagnostics > | > >> >> >> program > | > >> >> >> if > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and > see > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors > etc). > | > >> >> >> > | > >> >> > | > >> >> > | > >> >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | > > | > > > >
Guest MEB Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message news:499578E0-A64B-44E9-AA6A-4E9DB539181C@microsoft.com... | Thank You MEB! | | It solved the problem. It looks like everything is working perfectly and the | drivers are up-to-date. | ----- | Note to 98 Guy: Reply to this post and be considered UN-WELCOME. | -- | A story of success always has a beginning. | Glad to hear that its working, though you should try to find a friend to replace those internal batteries sometime in the future, and pick up a replacement main battery. There is no good reason older computers can't continue to provide satisfaction to their users, just takes a little TLC, and an occassional "jump start", and a bit of maintanence. And my thanks to all who provided additional help to John. | | "MEB" wrote: | | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96537&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 - | > Download drivers and software | > | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/ProductList.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 - | > Armada general - locate files | > | > | > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to. | > | > -- | > MEB | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > ________ | > | > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... | > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer | > will | > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. | > | | > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? | > | --------- | > | "Brian A." wrote: | > | | > | > From the manual: | > | > | > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf | > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, | > follow these | > | > steps: | > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. | > (Or turn on | > | > power.) | > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of | > the screen. | > | > | > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. | > If you do not | > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again. | > | > | > | > | > | > -- | > | > | > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } | > | > Conflicts start where information lacks. | > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ | > | > | > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm | > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 | > | > | > | > | > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com... | > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some | > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into | > BIOS/CMOS | > | > > setup... | > | > > | > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't! | > | > > | > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and | > reply. | > | > > Thank you for the link. | > | > > | > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | > | > > | > | > >> Maybe this will help you. | > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap | > | > >> | > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work? | > | > >> | > | > >> -- | > | > >> Gary S. Terhune | > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User | > | > >> http://www.grystmill.com | > | > >> | > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com... | > | > >> > Model Number? Sure! | > | > >> > | > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT | > | > >> > | > | > >> > Hope it helps! | > | > >> > | > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: | > | > >> > | > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know | > what | > | > >> >> model | > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for | > replacing the | > | > >> >> BIOS | > | > >> >> battery that I came across: | > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, | > but has | > | > >> >> some interesting hints. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you | > disconnect the | > | > >> >> main | > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, | > there's | > | > >> >> not | > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- | > those | > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on. | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> -- | > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune | > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User | > | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com | > | > >> >> | > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com... | > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key | > | > >> >> > combination! | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no | > instructions, | > | > >> >> > no | > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc. | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see | > if my | > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large | > amounts | > | > >> >> > of | > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into | > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS | > | > >> >> > Setup. | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000. | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote: | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> >| | > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the | > battery in | > | > >> >> >> >the | > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all. | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new | > defect* | > | > >> >> >> > rather | > | > >> >> >> > than | > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication | > that the | > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked. | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset | > to its | > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g | > different | > | > >> >> >> hard | > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly | > assumed | > | > >> >> >> to | > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped | > working. | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the | > settings are | > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what | > the | > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead | > then it | > | > >> >> >> will | > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the | > BIOS | > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the | > problem | > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced. | > | > >> >> >> | > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having | > checked | > | > >> >> >> the | > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly | > you'd | > | > >> >> >> want | > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's | > diagnostics | > | > >> >> >> program | > | > >> >> >> if | > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and | > see | > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors | > etc). | > | > >> >> >> -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? YW, <gd&r>. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:O6DyImg5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote > in > message news:499578E0-A64B-44E9-AA6A-4E9DB539181C@microsoft.com... > | Thank You MEB! > | > | It solved the problem. It looks like everything is working perfectly and > the > | drivers are up-to-date. > | ----- > | Note to 98 Guy: Reply to this post and be considered UN-WELCOME. > | -- > | A story of success always has a beginning. > | > > Glad to hear that its working, though you should try to find a friend to > replace those internal batteries sometime in the future, and pick up a > replacement main battery. > > There is no good reason older computers can't continue to provide > satisfaction to their users, just takes a little TLC, and an occassional > "jump start", and a bit of maintanence. > > And my thanks to all who provided additional help to John. > > | > | "MEB" wrote: > | > | > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=96537&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 - > | > Download drivers and software > | > > | > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/ProductList.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 - > | > Armada general - locate files > | > > | > > | > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to. > | > > | > -- > | > MEB > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > ________ > | > > | > > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com... > | > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The > computer > | > will > | > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down. > | > | > | > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)? > | > | --------- > | > | "Brian A." wrote: > | > | > | > | > From the manual: > | > | > > | > > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/UCR/SupportManual/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf > | > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities > menu, > | > follow these > | > | > steps: > | > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start > menu. > | > (Or turn on > | > | > power.) > | > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right > corner > of > | > the screen. > | > | > > | > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two > seconds. > | > If you do not > | > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try > again. > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > -- > | > | > > | > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User } > | > | > Conflicts start where information lacks. > | > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > | > | > > | > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > | > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com... > | > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some > | > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get > into > | > BIOS/CMOS > | > | > > setup... > | > | > > > | > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't! > | > | > > > | > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the > website > and > | > reply. > | > | > > Thank you for the link. > | > | > > > | > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | > | > > > | > | > >> Maybe this will help you. > | > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap > | > | > >> > | > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work? > | > | > >> > | > | > >> -- > | > | > >> Gary S. Terhune > | > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > | > >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > | > >> > | > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com... > | > | > >> > Model Number? Sure! > | > | > >> > > | > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT > | > | > >> > > | > | > >> > Hope it helps! > | > | > >> > > | > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > | > | > >> > > | > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to > know > | > what > | > | > >> >> model > | > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for > | > replacing the > | > | > >> >> BIOS > | > | > >> >> battery that I came across: > | > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda > folksy, > | > but has > | > | > >> >> some interesting hints. > | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you > | > disconnect the > | > | > >> >> main > | > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to > discharge, > | > there's > | > | > >> >> not > | > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something > up -- > | > those > | > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on. > | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> -- > | > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > | > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > | > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > | > >> >> > | > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > | > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com... > | > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know > the > key > | > | > >> >> > combination! > | > | > >> >> > > | > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no > | > instructions, > | > | > >> >> > no > | > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc. > | > | > >> >> > > | > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop > to > see > | > if my > | > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold > large > | > amounts > | > | > >> >> > of > | > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go > into > | > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS > | > | > >> >> > Setup. > | > | > >> >> > > | > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - > 2000. > | > | > >> >> > > | > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote: > | > | > >> >> > > | > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: > | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> >| > | > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the > | > battery in > | > | > >> >> >> >the > | > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all. > | > | > >> >> >> > > | > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new > | > defect* > | > | > >> >> >> > rather > | > | > >> >> >> > than > | > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good > indication > | > that the > | > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked. > | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably > reset > | > to its > | > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g > | > different > | > | > >> >> >> hard > | > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was > suddenly > | > assumed > | > | > >> >> >> to > | > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop > stopped > | > working. > | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the > | > settings are > | > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify > what > | > the > | > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is > dead > | > then it > | > | > >> >> >> will > | > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if > changing > the > | > BIOS > | > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have > isolated > the > | > problem > | > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced. > | > | > >> >> >> > | > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, > having > | > checked > | > | > >> >> >> the > | > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected > correctly > | > you'd > | > | > >> >> >> want > | > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's > | > diagnostics > | > | > >> >> >> program > | > | > >> >> >> if > | > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc > and > | > see > | > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing > sectors > | > etc). > | > | > >> >> >> > > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > >
Guest Roger Pearse Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do? On 7 Aug, 04:08, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote: > The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know what model > number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing the BIOS > battery that I came across:http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htmKinda folksy, but has > some interesting hints. > > Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect the main > battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, there's not > really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- those > things are NOT fun to work on. I wrote that page, and on the whole I wouldn't want to do this job again. I ended up with a laptop with a battery held in with a bit of tape, which tended to come off if I moved the laptop around. The plastic brackets inside the laptop were just too fragile. All the best, Roger Pearse
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