Guest Shane Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics. Certainly Vista builds of just about everything install. Not Ad-aware 2007. The previous one does though! ROFL! So I've got the old build running in it! Shane Alias wrote: > Alias
Guest Mike M Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 > Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which > is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics Not at all and very different Shane. Server 2008 is a very locked down updated W2K3 rather than Vista which is a client OS and not a server. OK, I know you know this but ... -- Mike M Shane <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote: > Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which > is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics. Certainly Vista > builds of just about everything install. Not Ad-aware 2007. > > The previous one does though! ROFL! So I've got the old build running > in it!
Guest Shane Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Mike M wrote: >> Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which >> is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics > > Not at all and very different Shane. Server 2008 is a very locked > down updated W2K3 rather than Vista which is a client OS and not a > server. OK, I know you know this but ... Yes. I'm not very precise these days. Maybe I never was, but I guess that's for other's to say. But I spend so much time grasping for words...possibly I should add a sig warning people not to take me *too* literally! It bugs me. Anyhow, first I saw of the 'Enhanced Security' was when it offered a printer driver update - which I figured I ought to download - and it blocked the ..exe as if it were a web site! And then it blocked Microsoft.com! And then I disabled it for the Internet Zone. I was about to work my way through Group Policy but was immediately informed I had to log on as a member of a domain. I thought being logged on as Administrator would be enough! The Administrator who installed the damn thing! Anyhow, that's it for now. I expect I shall play a litlle longer, but I've just been reading JSWare's piece on Vista: http://www.jsware.net/jsware/ditips.php3#vist and am tending towards removing this one and harrassing politicians for letting M$ do what they want, instead. Shane > >> Here's a funny one. I tried to install it in Server 2008 beta - which >> is essentially the corporate version of Vista afaics. Certainly Vista >> builds of just about everything install. Not Ad-aware 2007. >> >> The previous one does though! ROFL! So I've got the old build running >> in it!
Guest jeanette Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. i even googled. why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people really want at their sites? J "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Alias
Guest Ogg Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 JSWare's piece on Vista JSWare's piece on Vista Kudos to JSWare. Enough is enough. "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote .. > Anyhow, that's it for now. I expect I shall play a litlle longer, but I've > just been reading JSWare's piece on Vista: > http://www.jsware.net/jsware/ditips.php3#vist and am tending towards > removing this one and harrassing politicians for letting M$ do what they > want, instead.
Guest Mike M Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: JSWare's piece on Vista Re: JSWare's piece on Vista Ogg <no-spam-wanted@at.all> wrote: > Kudos to JSWare. Enough is enough. Much that I dislike Vista their recommendation "should run without problems if you disable the "User Account Control" (UAC) function which limits your access to your files, and if you run as "Administrator" (without restricted permission)." smacks of total ignorance. UAC certainly does not restrict access to "your files" although it does restrict access to actions requiring a permission higher than the current user. Disabling UAC as recommended whilst solving one problem is going to cause a cascade of other problems for the user regardless of their privileges. Nevertheless I agree that their statement "In fact, much of the JSWare freeware has been specifically designed not to run on Windows Vista at all, in order to avoid unnecessary confusion for people using Windows Vista, and also to avoid unnecessary support queries at JSWare." has much to commend it. -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com
Guest Shane Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and only one server - but still... At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is for the old one. Shane jeanette wrote: > could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? > i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you > think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. > i even googled. > why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people > really want at their sites? > > J > > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Alias
Guest Heather Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 I still update thru the old program. Must be your server. Figgs "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate > *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old > Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At > least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. > I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on > all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and > only one server - but still... > > At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down > list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is > for the old one. > > Shane > > > > jeanette wrote: >> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? >> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you >> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. >> i even googled. >> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people >> really want at their sites? >> >> J >> >> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Alias > >
Guest Shane Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Yes, well, *their* server. Heather wrote: > I still update thru the old program. Must be your server. > > Figgs > > "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate >> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old >> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At >> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. >> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on >> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and >> only one server - but still... >> >> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down >> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is >> for the old one. >> >> Shane >> >> >> >> jeanette wrote: >>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? >>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you >>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. >>> i even googled. >>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people >>> really want at their sites? >>> >>> J >>> >>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Alias
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 I'm still getting the updates on Kelly and John's machines, I use the new one on mine. Joan Shane wrote: > It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate > *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old > Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At > least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. > I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on > all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and > only one server - but still... > At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down > list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is > for the old one. > > Shane > > >
Guest Heather Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Oops.....misread that one. Oh well, whatever. (G) "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OS$5jkIyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Yes, well, *their* server. > > > Heather wrote: >> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server. >> >> Figgs >> >> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate >>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old >>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At >>> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an >>> error. >>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on >>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and >>> only one server - but still... >>> >>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down >>> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is >>> for the old one. >>> >>> Shane >>> >>> >>> >>> jeanette wrote: >>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? >>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you >>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. >>>> i even googled. >>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people >>>> really want at their sites? >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> Alias > >
Guest Shane Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 I just decided Tiscali seem to be having problems lately and wondering if they're to blame for the Ad-aware def issue. Tiscali are becoming widely known to be basically crap hopeless. Just they're better than Tesco. Joan Archer wrote: > I'm still getting the updates on Kelly and John's machines, I use the > new one on mine. > Joan > > > Shane wrote: >> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate >> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old >> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At >> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. >> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on >> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and >> only one server - but still... >> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down >> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is >> for the old one. >> >> Shane
Guest Shane Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Yes well depends who you mean by 'your', I suppose. If you meant 'your isp' perhaps you'd be right. I am beginning to wonder. If it is - I am getting sick to the back teeth of incompetence in the UK/European isp biz. Though from what I've heard over the years, the ones that side of the pond are as bad. And then again, as I'm running Server 2008 beta, you could be forgiven for thinking I'm running one! Well, i suppose I am, only its serving sod all, not even a round of cheese and pickle sandwiches! Heather wrote: > Oops.....misread that one. Oh well, whatever. (G) > > "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OS$5jkIyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Yes, well, *their* server. >> >> >> Heather wrote: >>> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server. >>> >>> Figgs >>> >>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate >>>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old >>>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. >>>> At least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an >>>> error. >>>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on >>>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and >>>> only one server - but still... >>>> >>>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop >>>> down list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way >>>> and it is for the old one. >>>> >>>> Shane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> jeanette wrote: >>>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? >>>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you >>>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. >>>>> i even googled. >>>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people >>>>> really want at their sites? >>>>> >>>>> J >>>>> >>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >>>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Shane wrote: > Yes well depends who you mean by 'your', I suppose. If you meant 'your isp' > perhaps you'd be right. I am beginning to wonder. If it is - I am getting > sick to the back teeth of incompetence in the UK/European isp biz. Though > from what I've heard over the years, the ones that side of the pond are as > bad. I'm pretty happy with ONO cable at 4MB/300KB. I also love being able to see CNN again. When I got here in '90, Spain only had two government controlled channels, 1 and 2. No commercials but the shows generally sucked. Now I can watch Prison Break in English and I have over 60 channels! Alias > > And then again, as I'm running Server 2008 beta, you could be forgiven for > thinking I'm running one! Well, i suppose I am, only its serving sod all, > not even a round of cheese and pickle sandwiches! > > > Heather wrote: >> Oops.....misread that one. Oh well, whatever. (G) >> >> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OS$5jkIyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Yes, well, *their* server. >>> >>> >>> Heather wrote: >>>> I still update thru the old program. Must be your server. >>>> >>>> Figgs >>>> >>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23R$gwDIyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate >>>>> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old >>>>> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. >>>>> At least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an >>>>> error. >>>>> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on >>>>> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and >>>>> only one server - but still... >>>>> >>>>> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop >>>>> down list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way >>>>> and it is for the old one. >>>>> >>>>> Shane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> jeanette wrote: >>>>>> could someone plz post the link to the latest defs? >>>>>> i have been around and around and around adawares site, but do you >>>>>> think i could find a link to the defs page....... ? NO. >>>>>> i even googled. >>>>>> why the heck do companies always make it hard to find what people >>>>>> really want at their sites? >>>>>> >>>>>> J >>>>>> >>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >>>>>> news:u4R2aE6xHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Alias > >
Guest jeanette Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 > It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate *not* to > rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old Ad-aware, they seem to > have stopped providing definitions for it. At least for some time my copy > has quit downloading at 5% with an error. I've tried this in numerous > different systems and it fails at 5% on all of them. Of course that may be > they're all set to the same and only one server - but still... Yes Yes Yes Shane,,,, that is Exactly what is happening to mine. > > At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down list is > 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is for the old > one. > > Shane Thanks, I'll shuffle on over and try it again. (although, I did prefer just tossing a boomerang and grabbing them that way.) J
Guest Mike M Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 I'm one of those who doesn't really bother with AdAware but having it installed on this box thought I'd see what happens. I launched AdAware to be told my definition were just 255 days old (I did say I didn't use it <G>) and was offered new definitions SE1R181 dated 16 July 2007 which came straight down and installed without problem. It looks as if the problem you were seeing has been fixed or alternatively is maybe an ISP "thing". -- Mike Shane <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote: > It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate > *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old > Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At > least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. > I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on > all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and > only one server - but still... > At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down > list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is > for the old one.
Guest jeanette Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Shane Shane Hello Shane,, I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg zipped. When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the file currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg). This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files) Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have been using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly basis, so afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years. If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download 3yrs worth of defs? If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new update defs? I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I must re-name the 'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs to be done, or do I have this all skew-whiff.? J
Guest Mike M Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: Shane Re: Shane AdAware SE tells you which version of its definition file it is using on its Status tab. The most recent being SE1R181 dated 16 July 2007 which is 1,339,941 bytes (1.27MB). Reference Number : SE1R181 16.07.2007 Internal build : 222 File location : C:\Program Files\Malware Tools\Ad-Aware SE Personal\defs.ref File size : 1339941 Bytes Total size : 4513348 Bytes Signature data size : 4470899 Bytes Reference data size : 41937 Bytes Signatures total : 114778 CSI Fingerprints total : 8470 CSI data size : 533436 Bytes Target categories : 15 Target families : 1151 -- Mike Maltby mike.maltby@gmail.com jeanette <jeany@lostincyber.com> wrote: > Hello Shane,, > > I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg > zipped. When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the > file > currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done > manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg). > This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the > moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months > ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files) > Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have > been using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly > basis, so afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years. > If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download > 3yrs worth of defs? > If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new > update defs? I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I > must re-name the 'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs > to be done, or do I have > this all skew-whiff.? > > J
Guest Mart Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Funny you mention that you don't bother with AdAware very much Mike. I switched to the 2007 version (on this XP box) jut after it first came out and found it too messy to bother with so consequently haven't used it much either. Following your post, I've just 'uninstalled' it and installed an old copy of SE (R106 dated 05/2006). It immediately offered to update and d/l'd R181. Far faster and easier than the 2007 updates! Lavasoft's 17MB 2007 bloatware verses their older 2.7MB SE doesn't equate. So its back to the old familiar - and simpler - version but probably still wont use it too often though <g> Mart "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:%237xa5aRyHHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I'm one of those who doesn't really bother with AdAware but having it > installed on this box thought I'd see what happens. I launched AdAware to > be told my definition were just 255 days old (I did say I didn't use it > <G>) and was offered new definitions SE1R181 dated 16 July 2007 which came > straight down and installed without problem. It looks as if the problem > you were seeing has been fixed or alternatively is maybe an ISP "thing". > -- > Mike > > > Shane <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It isn't really hard to find the defs at Lavasoft, much as I hate >> *not* to rubbish them. Anyhow, if you're talking about the old >> Ad-aware, they seem to have stopped providing definitions for it. At >> least for some time my copy has quit downloading at 5% with an error. >> I've tried this in numerous different systems and it fails at 5% on >> all of them. Of course that may be they're all set to the same and >> only one server - but still... >> At the home page, hover over 'Download and buy' and in the drop down >> list is 'Definition file updates'. I just updated that way and it is >> for the old one. >
Guest Mike M Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Mart, Good to read I'm not alone in rarely bothering with AdAware. What I didn't mention is that having run it I was told that I had two tracking cookies (I hadn't checked for ages) and two Hacktool.Keyfinder Objects. The latter being copies (exe and zip) of Magic Jellybean in my downloads folder. Sadly this demonstrated to me that AdAware isn't that good in this area otherwise it would have found a number of other similar and better tools than Magic Jellybean such as ProduKey from NirSoft in the same folder which I use to audit my various systems. -- Mike Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote: > Funny you mention that you don't bother with AdAware very much Mike. I > switched to the 2007 version (on this XP box) jut after it first came > out and found it too messy to bother with so consequently haven't > used it much either. > > Following your post, I've just 'uninstalled' it and installed an old > copy of SE (R106 dated 05/2006). It immediately offered to update and > d/l'd R181. Far faster and easier than the 2007 updates! > > Lavasoft's 17MB 2007 bloatware verses their older 2.7MB SE doesn't > equate. So its back to the old familiar - and simpler - version but > probably still wont use it too often though <g>
Guest Dapper Dan Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: Shane Re: Shane If it were me, Jeanette, I would simply uninstall what you have, then download a new copy and reinstall. Seems to me that would be a lot quicker than trying to fix something that you may or may not have done previously. Dan "jeanette" <jeany@lostincyber.com> wrote in message news:%23aBW5eRyHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hello Shane,, > > I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg zipped. > When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the file > currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done > manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg). > This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the > moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months > ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files) > Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have been > using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly basis, so > afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years. > If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download 3yrs > worth of defs? > If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new update > defs? > I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I must re-name the > 'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs to be done, or do I > have > this all skew-whiff.? > > J > >
Guest Shane Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: New Ad-Aware 2007 Defns. 7/16/07 Yes, the Nirsoft stuff is good. And no, I don't really use Ad-aware anymore, it is a similar length of time as the age of your defs since I last did a scan with it. Back in late-2000 it was good and as far as I was aware the only anti-Spyware product around. People were only just beginning to take that sort of thing seriously and indeed I spent a lot of trying to convince others to take Spyware seriously. I never did convince my family (I don't know why I didn't inherit the block of wood for a head <must do something about this dry rot though!>). My family using this computer is the reason I retain Ad-aware - on account of having the real-time protection *Plus* version - only I have lost faith in it since Stark put his money into the business (not *because* he did - just it seems to have exactly coincided with the constant decline in quality of recent years). Having it running in real-time was a pain on Millennium, but fine in XP, but as I never get so much as a tracking cookie, I don't know if it works anymore. I do know there have been endless false positives and new builds seem to tend to be released in a flawed state. I will say, though, that as always was the case, I still think you need more than one tool in whichever anti-malware field, because they still and probably always will find that which others miss. That is, if commit the cardinal sin in the first place of thinking you should be able to surf without taking precautions, and then doing so just to be difficult! As we wiser heads know, it isn't possible for anti-this or anti-that to give 100% protection! Its like people who stubbornly refuse to lock their doors when they go out! Anyway, the story is - ie, you may remember having read it before! - when I got Millennium in Nov 2000, I read this guide to the internet book and it recommended PKZip. And Zone Alarm. I installed both, and Zone Alarm asked me if I wanted to let tsadbot access the net. Being a generally sensible sort I declined on account of not knowing what the hell tsadbot was! Then I went online and Googled it (I think I had the Google Toolbar too). I saw a few hits that mentioned Spyware - Cexx.org etc - so I read about it. That made me want to get rid of it and keep that stuff out in future, so I went looking for something to that end and found Ad-aware (and only Ad-aware). I downloaded the personal version and in Dec registered for the Plus version (which came with a lifetime of updates and support. Now you have to register with their forum to get that support - a really poxy move if you ask me!). It was good - for a long while! It was the first, of that I for one am pretty confident despite my job here seeming to be to demonstrate how wrong you can be! I rather naughtily installed it on my sister and father's machines - for the Ad-watch real-time scanning - but my sister doesn't update and my father does just about everything you read about at Computer Stupidities - so I took it off again. Lavasoft now appears to be positioning themselves as the Symantec of anti-spyware. Say no more, eh? Shane Mike M wrote: > Mart, > > Good to read I'm not alone in rarely bothering with AdAware. What I > didn't mention is that having run it I was told that I had two > tracking cookies (I hadn't checked for ages) and two > Hacktool.Keyfinder Objects. The latter being copies (exe and zip) of > Magic Jellybean in my downloads folder. Sadly this demonstrated to > me that AdAware isn't that good in this area otherwise it would have > found a number of other similar and better tools than Magic Jellybean > such as ProduKey from NirSoft in the same folder which I use to audit > my various systems. >> Funny you mention that you don't bother with AdAware very much Mike. >> I switched to the 2007 version (on this XP box) jut after it first >> came out and found it too messy to bother with so consequently >> haven't used it much either. >> >> Following your post, I've just 'uninstalled' it and installed an old >> copy of SE (R106 dated 05/2006). It immediately offered to update and >> d/l'd R181. Far faster and easier than the 2007 updates! >> >> Lavasoft's 17MB 2007 bloatware verses their older 2.7MB SE doesn't >> equate. So its back to the old familiar - and simpler - version but >> probably still wont use it too often though <g>
Guest Shane Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: Shane Re: Shane No need for that, Dan. afaics there's nothing wrong with Jeanette's copy. Heroblem with updating is one I'm also having and, besides uninstalling and reinstalling having in the meantime manually removed any registry entries that might remain and thus, if the problem remained, be suspect and require another reinstall for, I have at least half a doz bootable partitions atm with Ad-aware on most and I've checked it in all and the problem - updates failing with an error at 5% - is in every single one. I did a fresh XP install last night to test a few things, Ad-aware updating included - and even on a new system in which I have disabled no services or lost track of the firewall rules etc, it still fails at 5%. As for the other issue, it looks like a simple misunderstanding of Jeanette's. Shane Dapper Dan wrote: > If it were me, Jeanette, I would simply uninstall what you have, then > download a new copy and reinstall. Seems to me that would be a lot > quicker than trying to fix something that you may or may not have > done previously. > Dan > > > "jeanette" <jeany@lostincyber.com> wrote in message > news:%23aBW5eRyHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Hello Shane,, >> >> I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg >> zipped. When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the >> file currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done >> manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg). >> This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the >> moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months >> ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files) >> Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have >> been using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly >> basis, so afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years. >> If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download >> 3yrs worth of defs? >> If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new >> update defs? >> I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I must re-name >> the 'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs to be done, >> or do I have >> this all skew-whiff.? >> >> J
Guest Shane Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: Shane Re: Shane Hi Jeanette, As I understand it, you're thinking that each def file should be larger than the last, because it contains the old defs plus some new ones? If so, that's not the way it works. Well, in the long run it does, but from file to file there is much fluctuation. For instance there will be definitions that have been removed. They may have been false positives - very likely with Ad-aware these days actually! - or a threat that is bno longer a threat. They may have rewritten defs in a more efficient way using fewer characters, say by eliminating a step now realised to be redundant. They may have realised that two threats are in fact the same one independently discovered and named. Who knows. But it has always been the case that a new definition file may well be smaller than the previous one. I hope this reassures you, but if I've misunderstood your concern, please post back and I, one or all of the others will attempt to address it! Shane jeanette wrote: > Hello Shane,, > > I went and grabbed the new def file, and noted that it was 1.2meg > zipped. When going into my adaware folder, I checked the size of the > file > currently being used (1.24meg) and the one that I must have done > manually and renamed to def.old(1.22meg). > This seems to say to me that all I really have working for me at the > moment is a mere few defs of which I manually loaded about 2 months > ago.... (via a Link I found somewhere to the def files) > Surely the def file should be much much larger than that? I have > been using adaware for 3 years and always update/check on a weekly > basis, so afaic it should have swelled dramatically over the years. > If my suspicions are correct, is there somewhere that I can download > 3yrs worth of defs? > If this is viable, exactly what should I do each time I get new > update defs? I know I must put them in adawares folder, and that I > must re-name the 'other one' to defs.old or similar;; what else needs > to be done, or do I have > this all skew-whiff.? > > J
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