Guest FLYNNE Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called Autoruns. This will give a list of programs at startup. I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at startup . How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? Regards -- FLYNNE
Guest Ken Blake Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Autoruns FLYNNE wrote: > I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called Autoruns. > > This will give a list of programs at startup. > > I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at startup . > > How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? > > Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? Here's my standard post on this subject: On each program you don't want to start automatically, check its Options to see if it has the choice not to start. Many can easily and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start automatically. However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but others have no effect on performance. Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can get more information about these with at http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there, try google searches and ask about specifics here. Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest JS Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Autoruns If you are new to this utility I would be very careful (read Ken's earlier post) as to what you do. Probably the items listed under the 'Logon' tab are the least likely to give you a problem if you choose to 'uncheck' an item and stop the item from loading. Things typically listed in the 'Logon' tab would be your AV software, Firewall, Etc. Note: To get additional details on an item in the list you may need to highlight the item (right click) and use the 'Search Online' option to get the details, especially useful for the more obscure items in the list. This would be a good way to explore what's being loading without stopping it. Some of the posted reports on software can vary widely from 'Safe' to 'Get rid of it immediately... spyware' so even search results can be confusing. JS "FLYNNE" <FLYNNE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8888D522-231B-46BD-8832-5B38F2AC6B30@microsoft.com... >I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called Autoruns. > > This will give a list of programs at startup. > > I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at startup . > > How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? > > Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? > > Regards > -- > FLYNNE
Guest Newbie Coder Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Autoruns Ken, MSCONFIG is hopeless & Autoruns is much better There is a webcast with Mark who wrote the AutoRuns tool & he says that removing spyware... using MSCONFIG is like trying to remove it with both hands tied behind your back. FLYNNE, Using the LOGON tab shows the 2 RUN keys If you see rubbish like Real Updater (TKBell), Acrobat Speed Launcher, Quicktime Task, MS Office OSA.exe... then remove them from startup, but if you see things like Antivirus software then DO NOT remove it at all Firstly, untick them, reboot & if all is fine, highlight them & delete Don't forget the shortcuts in the STARTUP (START | ALL PROGRAMS | STARTUP) folder. This holds Acrobat rubbish too -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:O%23QUDZIyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > FLYNNE wrote: > > > I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called Autoruns. > > > > This will give a list of programs at startup. > > > > I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at startup . > > > > How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? > > > > Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? > > > Here's my standard post on this subject: > > On each program you don't want to start automatically, check its Options to > see if it has the choice not to start. Many can easily and best be stopped > that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and > on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to start > automatically. > > However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of running > the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell you, you > should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs you run, but > *which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but others have no > effect on performance. > > Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do is > determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what the cost > in performance is of its running all the time. You can get more information > about these with at http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't > find it there, try google searches and ask about specifics here. > > Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed > decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of. > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > >
Guest AJR Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Autoruns From your post "...How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ?...." Curious - explain "...remove the programs I do not want at startup ...." My advice (based on the first quote)- if your computer works OK - let things be!!! If you insist on using Autoruns - "hide" the Microsoft items as a protective step. Regarding "Marks" video - it was directed to "IT Professionals" who would (should) have the required know-how. "FLYNNE" <FLYNNE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8888D522-231B-46BD-8832-5B38F2AC6B30@microsoft.com... >I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called Autoruns. > > This will give a list of programs at startup. > > I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at startup . > > How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? > > Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? > > Regards > -- > FLYNNE
Guest Ken Blake Posted July 17, 2007 Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Autoruns Newbie Coder wrote: > Ken, > > MSCONFIG is hopeless & Autoruns is much better Autoruns might be better (as are several other choices), but MSCONFIG is far from "hopeless." It usually does the job, and it has the advantage that everyone already has it. No download is necessary. For that reason, that's what I prefer to recommend to people in normal circumstances. > There is a webcast with Mark who wrote the AutoRuns tool & he says > that removing spyware... using MSCONFIG is like trying to remove it > with both hands tied behind your back. Who said anything about removing spyware? Of course MSCONFIG is not a spyware removal tool. Nobody suggested that it was. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > FLYNNE, > > Using the LOGON tab shows the 2 RUN keys > > If you see rubbish like Real Updater (TKBell), Acrobat Speed > Launcher, Quicktime Task, MS Office OSA.exe... then remove them from > startup, but if you see things like Antivirus software then DO NOT > remove it at all > > Firstly, untick them, reboot & if all is fine, highlight them & delete > > Don't forget the shortcuts in the STARTUP (START | ALL PROGRAMS | > STARTUP) folder. This holds Acrobat rubbish too > > > "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:O%23QUDZIyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> FLYNNE wrote: >> >>> I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called >>> Autoruns. >>> >>> This will give a list of programs at startup. >>> >>> I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at >>> startup . >>> >>> How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? >>> >>> Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? >> >> >> Here's my standard post on this subject: >> >> On each program you don't want to start automatically, check its >> Options to see if it has the choice not to start. Many can easily >> and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG >> from the Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the >> programs you don't want to start automatically. >> >> However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of >> running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people >> tell you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these >> programs you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance >> severely, but others have no effect on performance. >> >> Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should >> do is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and >> what the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can >> get more information about these with at >> http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there, >> try google searches and ask about specifics here. >> >> Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed >> decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User >> Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest Newbie Coder Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: Autoruns Ken, But in that webcast they say that MSCONFIG is blind to many locations where spyware... hides. Making it useless. Why was MSCONFIG left out of Windows 2000 if it was so good? Of course the XP version works on 2000, but it's not the point Why did many Windows 98 users kill their machines when using MSCONFIG if it is so good? -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:Oj2u$HLyHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Newbie Coder wrote: > > > Ken, > > > > MSCONFIG is hopeless & Autoruns is much better > > > Autoruns might be better (as are several other choices), but MSCONFIG is far > from "hopeless." It usually does the job, and it has the advantage that > everyone already has it. No download is necessary. For that reason, that's > what I prefer to recommend to people in normal circumstances. > > > > There is a webcast with Mark who wrote the AutoRuns tool & he says > > that removing spyware... using MSCONFIG is like trying to remove it > > with both hands tied behind your back. > > > Who said anything about removing spyware? Of course MSCONFIG is not a > spyware removal tool. Nobody suggested that it was. > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > > > > > FLYNNE, > > > > Using the LOGON tab shows the 2 RUN keys > > > > If you see rubbish like Real Updater (TKBell), Acrobat Speed > > Launcher, Quicktime Task, MS Office OSA.exe... then remove them from > > startup, but if you see things like Antivirus software then DO NOT > > remove it at all > > > > Firstly, untick them, reboot & if all is fine, highlight them & delete > > > > Don't forget the shortcuts in the STARTUP (START | ALL PROGRAMS | > > STARTUP) folder. This holds Acrobat rubbish too > > > > > > "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message > > news:O%23QUDZIyHHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> FLYNNE wrote: > >> > >>> I wish to try out the microsoft sysinternals program called > >>> Autoruns. > >>> > >>> This will give a list of programs at startup. > >>> > >>> I am told to that I can remove the programs I do not want at > >>> startup . > >>> > >>> How do I know what not to remove and not what to remove ? > >>> > >>> Canb anyone offer any guidance on this matter ? > >> > >> > >> Here's my standard post on this subject: > >> > >> On each program you don't want to start automatically, check its > >> Options to see if it has the choice not to start. Many can easily > >> and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG > >> from the Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the > >> programs you don't want to start automatically. > >> > >> However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of > >> running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people > >> tell you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these > >> programs you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance > >> severely, but others have no effect on performance. > >> > >> Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should > >> do is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and > >> what the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can > >> get more information about these with at > >> http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there, > >> try google searches and ask about specifics here. > >> > >> Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed > >> decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of. > >> > >> -- > >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > >> Please reply to the newsgroup > >
Guest Ken Blake Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Re: Autoruns Newbie Coder wrote: Ken, > > But in that webcast they say that MSCONFIG is blind to many locations > where spyware... hides. Making it useless. Why do you keep dwelling on Spyware? Nobody said anything about spyware, and that's not what thgis thread is about. Neither I, nor anyone else has recommended using MSCONFIG as a tool to get rid of spyware. But MSCONFIG *is* a satisfactory tool to stop programs from starting autiomatically. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest Plato Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Re: Autoruns Newbie Coder wrote: > > MSCONFIG is hopeless & Autoruns is much better I disagree. Ken B. said it correctly. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
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