Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" I'm fully aware of the OE "problems". Been responding to them for years. But while they exist and are encountered by others, I've never seen it first hand, not on my machine nor on any other machine I've worked on. Yes, it's a bit fragile, but proper usage reduces the potential problem to near nil. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eccL91vyHHA.6028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > OE can seem to be very well behaved. Your experience is only uncommon for > the situation where there are millions of individuals. In that case the, > "help, all my messages are gone," subject line in the OE newsgroup made a > regular appearance. OE's data structure has performance at the cost of > fragility - a one bit hit will do the trick. See the Steve Cochran and Tom > Koch OE sites. > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:OIx2EcvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had any DBX >> corruption. > >
Guest Adam Albright Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:42:50 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: >Alias wrote: > >> Frank wrote: >> >>> Alias wrote: >>> >>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> >>>>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had >>>>> any DBX corruption. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug >>>> to your computer. >>>> >>>> Alias >>> >>> >>> Gawd...only an idiot like you would do something as stupidly idiotic >>> as that...lol...now that's really. really dumb. >>> But, when you consider the source...well.... >>> Frank >> >> >> Are you saying that power outages never happen, Frankie Boy? >> >> Alias > >Not that it affects our boxes you idiot. >Can you say UPS...? Frank doing his latest back pedaling. Priceless!
Guest Mike Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:g3p1a3pse70802956nq50sfn0rjoutksqe@4ax.com... > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:07:11 -0400, "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote: > What you saying is a two foot tall pile of rotting garbage is less > offensive than a five foot tall pile of rotting garbage. Yes, exactly. Saying Windows Mail is better than OE certainly is not saying much! But it IS, in fact, better. > Most people would think garbage is just garbage. That's why most people don't use Linux. Mike
Guest Mike Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OT425bvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > What is it with all this new fangled graphical user interface stuff > anyway, all it does is waste processor time that would be better used > reading punch cards! <GDnR> Yeah! Hard disks? Gimme mag tape! RAM? Gimme core memory! I've actually done COBOL programming using punch cards. IBM 026, 029 and 129 keypunches! Those were the days, man. Mike
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" How is what Frank has said "backpedaling"? Alias proposes stupid tests to prove eventualities that we never encounter, due to good practices. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:5l12a391d11i0aim6k8mkk947ve093g1ie@4ax.com... > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:42:50 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: > >>Alias wrote: >> >>> Frank wrote: >>> >>>> Alias wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had >>>>>> any DBX corruption. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug >>>>> to your computer. >>>>> >>>>> Alias >>>> >>>> >>>> Gawd...only an idiot like you would do something as stupidly idiotic >>>> as that...lol...now that's really. really dumb. >>>> But, when you consider the source...well.... >>>> Frank >>> >>> >>> Are you saying that power outages never happen, Frankie Boy? >>> >>> Alias >> >>Not that it affects our boxes you idiot. >>Can you say UPS...? > > Frank doing his latest back pedaling. Priceless! > >
Guest Frank Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Adam Albright wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:42:50 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: > > >>Alias wrote: >> >> >>>Frank wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Alias wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had >>>>>>any DBX corruption. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug >>>>>to your computer. >>>>> >>>>>Alias >>>> >>>> >>>>Gawd...only an idiot like you would do something as stupidly idiotic >>>>as that...lol...now that's really. really dumb. >>>>But, when you consider the source...well.... >>>>Frank >>> >>> >>>Are you saying that power outages never happen, Frankie Boy? >>> >>>Alias >> >>Not that it affects our boxes you idiot. >>Can you say UPS...? > > > Frank doing his latest back pedaling. Priceless! > > You're completely lost aren't you? You have no idea what you're even responding to. You're in some kind of a stupor..from over indulging in something...let me guess...hahaha..ut oh...lol..caught ya didn't I? Frank
Guest Alias Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Gary wrote: > "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message > news:%23jt9NvvyHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Frank wrote: >>> Alias wrote: >>> >>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> >>>>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had any >>>>> DBX corruption. >>>>> >>>> Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug to >>>> your computer. >>>> >>>> Alias >>> Gawd...only an idiot like you would do something as stupidly idiotic as >>> that...lol...now that's really. really dumb. >>> But, when you consider the source...well.... >>> Frank >> Are you saying that power outages never happen, Frankie Boy? >> >> Alias > > Does "UPS" mean anything to you? > > To me, yes, and I use one. To most people who use Outhouse Express, no. They think it means United Parcel Service. Alias
Guest Alias Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Frank wrote: > Alias wrote: > >> Frank wrote: >> >>> Alias wrote: >>> >>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>> >>>>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had >>>>> any DBX corruption. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug >>>> to your computer. >>>> >>>> Alias >>> >>> >>> Gawd...only an idiot like you would do something as stupidly idiotic >>> as that...lol...now that's really. really dumb. >>> But, when you consider the source...well.... >>> Frank >> >> >> Are you saying that power outages never happen, Frankie Boy? >> >> Alias > > Not that it affects our boxes you idiot. > Can you say UPS...? I own one. > Oops! > hahaha...you really don't know too much do you. > Frank I know that most people who use Outhouse Express think that UPS stands for United Parcel Service. Alias
Guest Adam Albright Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:15:49 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: >Adam Albright wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:42:50 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: >You're completely lost aren't you? Not at all. I can read you like a book. A 1st grade book. See Frankie. See Frankie whine. See Frankie whine and stamp his feet. See Frankie make an ass of himself. See Frankie whine some more. See Frankie pout.
Guest Gary Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:OT425bvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > What is it with all this new fangled graphical user interface stuff > anyway, all it does is waste processor time that would be better used > reading punch cards! <GDnR> > Typical of someone who knows NOTHING about Vista. FYI the graphical subsystem was changed to offload the graphic processing to the video card and use little if any processor time.
Guest Michael Jennings Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Proper usage reduces the potential problem to exactly nil. Most users would rather not be bothered with proper usage - too much trouble. WinMail is better for most users, who prefer not having to take care by moving the store to another disk and making clone backups. If you use OE and you don't do this, you chance kissing the store goodbye. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eKS8iBwyHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I'm fully aware of the OE "problems". Been responding to them for years. > But while they exist and are encountered by others, I've never seen it > first hand, not on my machine nor on any other machine I've worked on. > Yes, it's a bit fragile, but proper usage reduces the potential problem to > near nil. > > "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:eccL91vyHHA.6028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> OE can seem to be very well behaved. Your experience is only uncommon for >> the situation where there are millions of individuals. In that case the, >> "help, all my messages are gone," subject line in the OE newsgroup made a >> regular appearance. OE's data structure has performance at the cost of >> fragility - a one bit hit will do the trick. See the Steve Cochran and >> Tom Koch OE sites. >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:OIx2EcvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had any >>> DBX corruption.
Guest Gary Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message news:7871B3FD-64D8-45BC-BCA6-3B6D69A9BF6F@microsoft.com... > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OT425bvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> What is it with all this new fangled graphical user interface stuff >> anyway, all it does is waste processor time that would be better used >> reading punch cards! <GDnR> > > Yeah! Hard disks? Gimme mag tape! RAM? Gimme core memory! > > I've actually done COBOL programming using punch cards. IBM 026, 029 and > 129 keypunches! Those were the days, man. > > Mike > Ahhhh yes you just haven't lived until you try and fix one of those 64K core memory cards. And YES those were the days. Kids don't know sh*t today.
Guest Frank Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Adam Albright wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:15:49 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: > > >>Adam Albright wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:42:50 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote: > > > >>You're completely lost aren't you? > > > Not at all. I can read you like a book. A 1st grade book. > > See Frankie. > See Frankie whine. > See Frankie whine and stamp his feet. > See Frankie make an ass of himself. > See Frankie whine some more. > See Frankie pout. > I bet you got all of that from looking in a mirror didn't you. LOL! Frank
Guest Frank Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Alias wrote: > I know that most people who use Outhouse Express think that UPS stands > for United Parcel Service. You know nothing! Get lost fool. Frank
Guest Mike Hall - MVP Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" For upgraders from Win 9x, it could be a veritable nightmare.. there was a corresponding leap in the resources required.. XP was far less tolerant of even minor hardware faults.. many modems, some keyboards, setups where printers piggybacked onto scanners, and other hardware became defunct, as did programs like Quicken 6 and Corel WordPerfect Suite 7.. PII's and low end PIII's running 64mb RAM were about as much use as a chocolate coffee pot.. But you know all of this.. :-) "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message news:ufCrPzuyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > * John John: >> Adam Albright wrote: >> >> >>> You're missing the point. XP was a major leap compared to prior >>> versions of Windows... >> >> BullHonk!!! It was Windows 2000 with a face full of makeup and fishnet >> stockings! > > To most consumers who had never experienced Win2000, > because it wasn't aimed at the masses- WinXP was a huge > leap in performance and stability. > > > -Michael -- Mike Hall MS MVP Windows Shell/User http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
Guest XS11E Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote: > And when XP was released, some came back and asked for Windows > 98.. Not worth arguing with him, Mike. You know he has no idea what he's talking about or he wouldn't have posted a completely bogus article. >> He said it short-circuited key software programs he counts on: >> Quicken for balancing his checkbook Quicken, of course, runs perfectly on Vista Ultimate 64 for me. >> "Basically they don't work," said Daoud, a computer industry >> analyst with market research firm IDC. The OP wants us to believe that "a computer industry analyst" is too computer illiterate to run Quicken? The article is bogus and the OP is merely displaying his ignorance of Vista. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
Guest MICHAEL Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off andreplace it with XP?'" I also know, all that was worth it. XP was an entirely different code base than Win9x, so there was most definitely going to be issues when the masses moved to XP. Vista is *not* an entirely new code base. It's more like a major update along the lines of Windows 98SE or XP SP2. I look back at XP and I remember some of the problems, but I also remember how much better/faster/stable XP was once the driver issues settled down. I haven't really experienced many incompatibilities with Vista, that's not my point. My Vista machines work well- but so did my XP machines. The leap of performance and stability I felt when moving to XP, I do not feel with Vista. I really feel like I've paid for nothing more than a major service pack or XP Second Edition. -Michael * Mike Hall - MVP: > For upgraders from Win 9x, it could be a veritable nightmare.. there was a > corresponding leap in the resources required.. XP was far less tolerant of > even minor hardware faults.. many modems, some keyboards, setups where > printers piggybacked onto scanners, and other hardware became defunct, as > did programs like Quicken 6 and Corel WordPerfect Suite 7.. PII's and low > end PIII's running 64mb RAM were about as much use as a chocolate coffee > pot.. > > But you know all of this.. :-) > > > > > "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message > news:ufCrPzuyHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> * John John: >>> Adam Albright wrote: >>> >>> >>>> You're missing the point. XP was a major leap compared to prior >>>> versions of Windows... >>> BullHonk!!! It was Windows 2000 with a face full of makeup and fishnet >>> stockings! >> To most consumers who had never experienced Win2000, >> because it wasn't aimed at the masses- WinXP was a huge >> leap in performance and stability. >> >> >> -Michael >
Guest Drew Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Why on God's green earth would one spend a frickin fortune on a good solid running system and not put a ups on it ???..Probably the same people that more or less forced Microsoft to put UAC in Vista...I have never owned a computer that I did not have surge protection and battery backup on..You are basically stupid if you don't "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:%23S9fCKwyHHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Gary wrote: >> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message >> news:%23jt9NvvyHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Frank wrote: >>>> Alias wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had any >>>>>> DBX corruption. >>>>>> >>>>> Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug to >>>>> your computer. >>>>> >>>>> Alias >>>> Gawd...only an idiot like you would do something as stupidly idiotic as >>>> that...lol...now that's really. really dumb. >>>> But, when you consider the source...well.... >>>> Frank >>> Are you saying that power outages never happen, Frankie Boy? >>> >>> Alias >> >> Does "UPS" mean anything to you? > > To me, yes, and I use one. To most people who use Outhouse Express, no. > They think it means United Parcel Service. > > Alias
Guest carl feredeck Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" people report that when the inbox-outbox grows bigger and bigger with windows mail because each message is a seperate eml file everything slows down to point where it is irritating. I havent reached so many messages yet on a vista machine.. but I can imagine that what they are saying is true "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OhWVuRwyHHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Proper usage reduces the potential problem to exactly nil. Most users > would rather not be bothered with proper usage - too much trouble. > WinMail is better for most users, who prefer not having to take care > by moving the store to another disk and making clone backups. If you > use OE and you don't do this, you chance kissing the store goodbye. > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eKS8iBwyHHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> I'm fully aware of the OE "problems". Been responding to them for years. >> But while they exist and are encountered by others, I've never seen it >> first hand, not on my machine nor on any other machine I've worked on. >> Yes, it's a bit fragile, but proper usage reduces the potential problem >> to near nil. >> >> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:eccL91vyHHA.6028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> OE can seem to be very well behaved. Your experience is only uncommon >>> for the situation where there are millions of individuals. In that case >>> the, "help, all my messages are gone," subject line in the OE newsgroup >>> made a regular appearance. OE's data structure has performance at the >>> cost of fragility - a one bit hit will do the trick. See the Steve >>> Cochran and Tom Koch OE sites. >>> >>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> news:OIx2EcvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had any >>>> DBX corruption. > >
Guest Telstar Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message news:46a0c9de@newsgate.x-privat.org... > No no no.. that is not a good analogy. > > A good analogy is that windows Me users wanted win98 back because WinMe > was crap! > The same thing is happening with winXP and Vista now. Wrong. I will not write any more words than that.
Guest Telstar Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message news:46a0d095@newsgate.x-privat.org... > Just because vista has a flashy theme doesnt make it better technology. It > doesnt really have much more to offer. Sorry. > > I like new software... there is only one acception from all the software I > have ever used in my life. Vista. Exception...can you spell? > Vista is new but it is so bad Not supported diatribe. Go Away. that even though my habbits are to always have > the latest and greatest, > vistas poor quality made me change that. I mean I can put up with a lot of > crap.. but I also have to get things done! > > > "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message > news:13435D14-461A-4E18-B8B3-621B29FB8165@microsoft.com... >> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message >> news:46a0c9de@newsgate.x-privat.org... >>> I dont know anyone from my experience that went from 98 to XP and wanted >>> 98 back! Win98 was horrid compared to XP! >> >> Then you don't know many people. >> >> Most people are naturally resistant to change. They don't like "new" >> when they are comfortable with "old and familiar". In a few years time >> people will look back at XP and think "I used to actually *use* this?" >> I thought that about Windows 2000 a few years ago, and am quickly >> starting to feel that way about XP. >> >> Mike >> > >
Guest Telstar Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message news:eR1FGevyHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> In ten years of heavy use of OE, I've never lost a message or had any DBX >> corruption. >> > > Try compacting your messages and while it's doing it, pull the plug to > your computer. > > Alias You have exposed your true brain-dean idiocy...for the 1200th time.
Guest Telstar Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message news:2D35A114-A48F-4A70-85DC-B27E84365937@microsoft.com... > "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message > news:3ok1a3l3c5kgbars0md9dr1hbv24qn7ujl@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:58:32 -0400, "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote: >> You're missing the point. XP was a major leap compared to prior >> versions of Windows. > > No, *you* are missing the point. No one called XP "a major leap" in > 2001. It was called "2000 with eye candy". > > You seem to have no memory of this. Amazing. > > Mike > > This is ABSOLUTELY true. Doesn't anyone have a freakin' memory? Or all you all 11 year olds?
Guest Telstar Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:89n1a31lh5pc5hn9inrl1j24cb351a9god@4ax.com... > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:17:21 -0400, "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote: > >>"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message >>news:%23QFSi$tyHHA.4820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Points that you made equally applied to the W2K-XP transition.. >> >>I get the impression that some of these people here whining about Vista >>are >>too young to remember that. They apparently grew up with XP and it's all >>they know. >> >>At least they certainly give that impression with their "It's too big, too >>bloated, too much eye candy, too incompatible with existing apps/hardware, >>no drivers" and on and on and on. >> >>We heard ALL of this at XP's launch, and at 2000's launch, and at NT 4's >>launch, and at NT 3.1's launch. >> >>Mike > > > What we also hear is the typical full of hot air Microsoft fanboy > badly faking trying to pass himself off as expert and using this > newsgroup to pontificate. > > That shoe seems to fit not only you Mike, but way too many others that > infest this newsgroup and make it next to useless since they refuse to > be objective and only know how to sing the praises of Microsoft rather > than honestly trying to see BOTH sides of each issue and accepting > many people really do have serious issues with Vista and it has > nothing to do with drivers or hardware but failings of Vista itself > which fanboys refuse to admit exist. > Why did you post this illogical crap? I want to know.
Guest Telstar Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" Re: "People came back and said, 'Please, will you take this off and replace it with XP?'" "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message news:7871B3FD-64D8-45BC-BCA6-3B6D69A9BF6F@microsoft.com... > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:OT425bvyHHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> What is it with all this new fangled graphical user interface stuff >> anyway, all it does is waste processor time that would be better used >> reading punch cards! <GDnR> > > Yeah! Hard disks? Gimme mag tape! RAM? Gimme core memory! > > I've actually done COBOL programming using punch cards. IBM 026, 029 and > 129 keypunches! Those were the days, man. > > Mike > LOL...i remember submitting 30,000 ordered punch cards to run a program at night on a mainframe with 64meg of memory. It took a special compensation from the Chancellor of the school I was at. It used too many resources ;)
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