virus/firewall protection

July 20, 2007

Hello,

I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new

subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive

suggestions???

July 20, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

<IMHO>

1. Uninstall NIS via Add/Remove Programs.

2. Run the Norton Removal Tool (Win98/WinME version):

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

3. Install ANY reliable anti-virus application OTHER THAN Norton AntiVirus

or McAfee VirusScan. I do not recommend AVG Anti-Virus (Free or Pro).

4. Install a firewall that's _supported in Win98_ (e.g.,

http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/download.php).

</IMHO>

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

lutra wrote:

> Hello,

> I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

> SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new

> subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive

> suggestions???

July 20, 2007

RE: virus/firewall protection

"lutra" wrote:

> Hello,

> I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

> SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new

> subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive

> suggestions???

July 20, 2007

RE: virus/firewall protection

I still run 98SE as well !! Not to long back I was turned on to AVG 7.5 , I'm

totally won over by it's performance . After purchasing mine @ $39.00 at

Fry's Electronics a short time ago , I was just told (and it's true) you can

download it for free @ download.com . Enter Antivirus under search , scroll

down to select your operat. syst. , then click where it says liscenses and

click free , then click filter . Scroll down to different options and bingo ,

click AVG 7.5 and download away .

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

Definitely off topic but while you're out of your cave, I presume you are

fielding VISTA issues in your forums on AumHa?

Any specific links [specialty/specific or otherwise]?

Or web html [perhaps with a technical approach]?

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23XZVBExyHHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| <IMHO>

|

| 1. Uninstall NIS via Add/Remove Programs.

|

| 2. Run the Norton Removal Tool (Win98/WinME version):

| http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

|

| 3. Install ANY reliable anti-virus application OTHER THAN Norton AntiVirus

| or McAfee VirusScan. I do not recommend AVG Anti-Virus (Free or Pro).

|

| 4. Install a firewall that's _supported in Win98_ (e.g.,

| http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/download.php).

|

| </IMHO>

| --

| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

| MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

| AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

|

| lutra wrote:

| > Hello,

| > I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

| > SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a new

| > subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other positive

| > suggestions???

|

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

You don't need to get it from download.com or anywhere else other than the source.

Grisoft's AVG Free Edition is available directly from Grisoft:

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/download-free-anti-virus/us/frt/0

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Yetti" <Yetti@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A9E1EAF1-6C3C-440C-9C3B-9864470ED3B5@microsoft.com...

>I still run 98SE as well !! Not to long back I was turned on to AVG 7.5 , I'm

> totally won over by it's performance . After purchasing mine @ $39.00 at

> Fry's Electronics a short time ago , I was just told (and it's true) you can

> download it for free @ download.com . Enter Antivirus under search , scroll

> down to select your operat. syst. , then click where it says liscenses and

> click free , then click filter . Scroll down to different options and bingo ,

> click AVG 7.5 and download away .

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

lutra wrote:

| Hello,

| I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

| SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a

| new subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other

| positive suggestions???

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW

Kerio Personal Firewall v.2.5.1

This one is free for personal use, it seems to have it all, & hasn't

crashed yet. But I'm STILL learning what to do with it! I'm getting

close, though!

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

OT: You bet! =>

Windows Vista Support Center

http://www.aumha.org/win6/

Windows Vista Support Forum

http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=59

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

MEB wrote:

> Definitely off topic but while you're out of your cave, I presume you are

> fielding VISTA issues in your forums on AumHa?

> Any specific links [specialty/specific or otherwise]?

> Or web html [perhaps with a technical approach]?

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:OxCYjl6yHHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| OT: You bet! =>

|

| Windows Vista Support Center

| http://www.aumha.org/win6/

|

| Windows Vista Support Forum

| http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=59

| --

| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

| MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)

| AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

Thanks Pa, I will check these [of course in another nomenclature].

I suppose one of the primary reasons for the querry, is the NEW NTFS

structure which is essentially incompatible with the XP version, and the

handling of those issues and other related installation and OS issues.

Thanks for the links..

__

Now I suppose I should question the reason for your honored opinion related

to not installing AVG, so that issue can be addressed and any related issues

can be brought to light.

|

| MEB wrote:

| > Definitely off topic but while you're out of your cave, I presume you

are

| > fielding VISTA issues in your forums on AumHa?

| > Any specific links [specialty/specific or otherwise]?

| > Or web html [perhaps with a technical approach]?

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

THANKS TO ALL FOR THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS !!!!

"PCR" wrote:

> lutra wrote:

> | Hello,

> | I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

> | SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for a

> | new subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any other

> | positive suggestions???

>

> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW

> Kerio Personal Firewall v.2.5.1

>

> This one is free for personal use, it seems to have it all, & hasn't

> crashed yet. But I'm STILL learning what to do with it! I'm getting

> close, though!

>

July 21, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

lutra wrote:

| THANKS TO ALL FOR THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS !!!!

You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate to

offer...

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

...., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has many

wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every archive file

during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are some archives it

DOES get into that even WinZip will not try. However, archives are

harmless until opened. At that point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner

that matters-- & there's no reason to think it won't work!

| "PCR" wrote:

|

|> lutra wrote:

|> | Hello,

|> | I am STILL running Windows 98SE and have been using NORTON INTERNET

|> | SECURITY. So far without too many hitches.......but it is time for

|> | a new subscription and curious whether anyone out there has any

|> | other positive suggestions???

|>

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security/2.5.1.+Kerio+and+pre-v3.0+Tiny+PFW

|> Kerio Personal Firewall v.2.5.1

|>

|> This one is free for personal use, it seems to have it all, & hasn't

|> crashed yet. But I'm STILL learning what to do with it! I'm getting

|> close, though!

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate

> to offer...

>

> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

>

> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has

> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are

> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

> think it won't work!

>

Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to deal with

this:

http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

which you can do by viewing these:

http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically works

without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old Alka Seltzer

ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but, on balance, I'll take

it.

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

Roger Fink wrote:

|> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate

|> to offer...

|>

|> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

|>

|> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

|> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has

|> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

|> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are

|> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

|> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

|> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

|> think it won't work!

|>

|

| Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

| deal with this:

| http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|

| which you can do by viewing these:

|

| http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

| http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

|

| Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically

| works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old

| Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,

| on balance, I'll take it.

I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

anyhow.

At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

"Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

"Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

"Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

NONE of those three is checked!

I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I believe

what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to install

the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been reversed-- it

was the NetZero setting that was checked before, possibly. So far as I

always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And it looks like I'm using

one now!

It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3 servers

somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they were...

smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF I've

actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done! I

think I've almost got it right now!

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

PCR wrote:

> Roger Fink wrote:

>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate

>>> to offer...

>>>

>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

>>>

>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has

>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are

>>> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

>>> think it won't work!

>>>

>>

>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

>> deal with this:

>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>>

>> which you can do by viewing these:

>>

>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

>>

>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically

>> works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old

>> Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,

>> on balance, I'll take it.

>

> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

> anyhow.

>

> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

>

> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

>

> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

> NONE of those three is checked!

>

> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to

> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And

> it looks like I'm using one now!

>

> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

>

> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done! I

> think I've almost got it right now!

PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative. The

reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as it did for

Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that this wasn't being

reflected in the statistics in the box, because for Webshield (only) the

scan count was always zero.

You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I would

confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned count", to make

sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective of the feel-good news

("The provider is currently running") at the top of the box.

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

Roger Fink wrote:

| PCR wrote:

|> Roger Fink wrote:

|>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

|>>> hesitate to offer...

|>>>

|>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

|>>>

|>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

|>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has

|>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

|>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there

|>>> are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

|>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

|>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

|>>> think it won't work!

|>>>

|>>

|>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

|>> deal with this:

|>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|>>

|>> which you can do by viewing these:

|>>

|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

|>>

|>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

|>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow

|>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset

|>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.

|>

|> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

|> anyhow.

|>

|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

|>

|> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

|> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

|> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

|>

|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

|> NONE of those three is checked!

|>

|> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

|> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to

|> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

|> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

|> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And

|> it looks like I'm using one now!

|>

|> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

|> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

|> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

|> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

|>

|> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

|> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done!

|> I think I've almost got it right now!

|

| PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative.

| The reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as

| it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that

| this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because for

| Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.

If that's what matters, then... yea... you would be correct it isn't

working. Kerio shows AshWebSv.exe (localhost:12080) to be always

listening, but I do see zeros in all its fields, yea.

It's odd, though, I don't see NetZero (Exec.exe) on Kerio's "Opened

connections at localhost" list AT ALL-- but somehow my NET connection is

working fine! The apps there with the most activity by far are Kerio

apps. The only other one showing anything is IExplore.exe. (Exec.exe is

mentioned in the Kerio log file often enough, though.)

HOWEVER, that list is not static. Let me open an URL & see what is

added... losts more IExplore.exe pop in/out. Could be Exec.exe pops

in/out too quick for me to see it (something certainly does).

AshWebSv.exe still shows zero in its byte counts & speed numbers. But

all of the 4 AshMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service) ALSO show zero

in their counts-- yet that services is working! That is proven by...

X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Inbound message

X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

.... in the Properties, Details tab, of all posts read into this machine,

& additionally...

X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Outbound message

X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

.... is in the Properties of mine. Also, I know I cannot send or receive

any of the Eicar test viruses as an attachment, without pausing avast!'s

Internet Mail Provider first. That's for sure!

| You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

| would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

| count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective

| of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the

| top of the box.

I don't have a box like that in the Home Edition v.4.7. However, I can

pause & resume the various providers in a context menu. Let me pause the

WEB Shield Provider... everything looks the same in Kerio. And STILL the

virus is detected at...

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

.... when I click either Eicar.com, which is the same as before. (The

..zipped ones, I have to open, before avast! will detect them. The .txt

ones, I have to R-Clk & scan.)

I'm not sure what to think. Can it be, if WEB Shield were actually

working, I would not have to click anything at Eicar to get the alert? I

GUESS, I will try what you say, Zabcar-- thanks. I'll get back to you

later or tomorrow.

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

Roger Fink wrote:

| PCR wrote:

|> Roger Fink wrote:

Oops, did I call you Zabcar? You are Roger Fink, I know. Thanks, I'll

get back to you later.

|>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

|>>> hesitate to offer...

|>>>

|>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

|>>>

|>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

|>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has

|>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

|>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there

|>>> are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

|>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

|>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

|>>> think it won't work!

|>>>

|>>

|>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

|>> deal with this:

|>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|>>

|>> which you can do by viewing these:

|>>

|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

|>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

|>>

|>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

|>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow

|>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset

|>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.

|>

|> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

|> anyhow.

|>

|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

|>

|> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

|> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

|> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

|>

|> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

|> NONE of those three is checked!

|>

|> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

|> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to

|> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

|> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

|> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And

|> it looks like I'm using one now!

|>

|> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

|> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

|> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

|> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

|>

|> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

|> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done!

|> I think I've almost got it right now!

|

| PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative.

| The reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as

| it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that

| this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because for

| Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.

|

| You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

| would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

| count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective

| of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the

| top of the box.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

PCR wrote:

| Roger Fink wrote:

|| PCR wrote:

||> Roger Fink wrote:

||>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

||>>> hesitate to offer...

||>>>

||>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

||>>>

||>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some

||>>> of Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise

||>>> & has many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into

||>>> every archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side,

||>>> there are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will

||>>> not try. However, archives are harmless until opened. At that

||>>> point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's

||>>> no reason to think it won't work!

||>>>

||>>

||>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

||>> deal with this:

||>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

||>>

||>> which you can do by viewing these:

||>>

||>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

||>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

||>>

||>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

||>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow

||>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset

||>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.

||>

||> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

||> anyhow.

||>

||> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

||>

||> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

||> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

||> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

||>

||> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

||> NONE of those three is checked!

||>

||> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

||> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected

||> to install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

||> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

||> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.

||> And it looks like I'm using one now!

||>

||> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

||> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

||> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

||> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

||>

||> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

||> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done!

||> I think I've almost got it right now!

||

|| PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative.

|| The reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as

|| it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that

|| this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because for

|| Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.

|

| If that's what matters, then... yea... you would be correct it isn't

| working. Kerio shows AshWebSv.exe (localhost:12080) to be always

| listening, but I do see zeros in all its fields, yea.

|

| It's odd, though, I don't see NetZero (Exec.exe) on Kerio's "Opened

| connections at localhost" list AT ALL-- but somehow my NET connection

| is working fine! The apps there with the most activity by far are

| Kerio apps. The only other one showing anything is IExplore.exe.

| (Exec.exe is mentioned in the Kerio log file often enough, though.)

|

| HOWEVER, that list is not static. Let me open an URL & see what is

| added... losts more IExplore.exe pop in/out. Could be Exec.exe pops

| in/out too quick for me to see it (something certainly does).

|

| AshWebSv.exe still shows zero in its byte counts & speed numbers. But

| all of the 4 AshMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service) ALSO show

| zero in their counts-- yet that services is working! That is proven

| by...

|

| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Inbound message

| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

|

| ... in the Properties, Details tab, of all posts read into this

| machine, & additionally...

|

| X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Outbound message

| X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

|

| ... is in the Properties of mine. Also, I know I cannot send or

| receive any of the Eicar test viruses as an attachment, without

| pausing avast!'s Internet Mail Provider first. That's for sure!

|

|| You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

|| would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

|| count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective

|| of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the

|| top of the box.

|

| I don't have a box like that in the Home Edition v.4.7. However, I can

| pause & resume the various providers in a context menu. Let me pause

| the WEB Shield Provider... everything looks the same in Kerio. And

| STILL the virus is detected at...

| http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

| ... when I click either Eicar.com, which is the same as before. (The

| .zipped ones, I have to open, before avast! will detect them. The .txt

| ones, I have to R-Clk & scan.)

|

| I'm not sure what to think. Can it be, if WEB Shield were actually

| working, I would not have to click anything at Eicar to get the

| alert? I GUESS, I will try what you say, Zabcar-- thanks. I'll get

| back to you later or tomorrow.

UPDATE... OK, I made the change...

At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

"Automatically detect settings".......... is unchecked.

"Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

"Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is checked.

............................................ Address: localhost

............................................ Port: 12080

I need to evaluate it further. I STILL have 4 AshMaiSv.exe & 1

AshWebSv.exe in Kerio "listening" & showing ZEROS as before. I'm hoping

a reboot will eliminate them.

But, NOW I've got 2 MORE AshMaiSv.exe & 1 MORE AshWebSv.exe that DO seem

to be functioning. They pop in/out of the list as necessary, it seems,

when I click an URL.

The Eicar site seems to work better. Now, every one of the 4 "standard

protocol http" will trigger an avast! alert when clicked, not just the

..com.

The 4 "secure, SSL enabled protocol https" work as before-- the .com

only will trigger the alert when clicked. The .txt must be R-Clkd &

scanned after the download to trigger it. The .zip's must be unpacked

first. Additionally, once the "secure" Eicar.com.txt is read in this

way, the "standard" .txt will revert to behaving like that too-- until

Eicar.com.txt is deleted.

SO... that's lots better (I guess), thanks a lot, Fink (but you should

change that name to Zabcar). You've been invaluable!

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

PCR wrote:

> PCR wrote:

>> Roger Fink wrote:

>>> PCR wrote:

>>>> Roger Fink wrote:

>>>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

>>>>>> hesitate to offer...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some

>>>>>> of Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise

>>>>>> & has many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into

>>>>>> every archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side,

>>>>>> there are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will

>>>>>> not try. However, archives are harmless until opened. At that

>>>>>> point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's

>>>>>> no reason to think it won't work!

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

>>>>> deal with this:

>>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>>>>>

>>>>> which you can do by viewing these:

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

>>>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

>>>>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow

>>>>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset

>>>>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.

>>>>

>>>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not

>>>> manually, anyhow.

>>>>

>>>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

>>>>

>>>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

>>>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

>>>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

>>>>

>>>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

>>>> NONE of those three is checked!

>>>>

>>>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

>>>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected

>>>> to install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have

>>>> been reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

>>>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.

>>>> And it looks like I'm using one now!

>>>>

>>>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

>>>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said

>>>> they were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively.

>>>> Even IF I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working

>>>> with that.

>>>>

>>>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

>>>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have

>>>> done! I think I've almost got it right now!

>>>

>>> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was

>>> operative. The reason was because when I opened up the display, it

>>> said so!, as it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I

>>> soon noticed that this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in

>>> the box, because for Webshield (only) the scan count was always

>>> zero.

>>

>> If that's what matters, then... yea... you would be correct it isn't

>> working. Kerio shows AshWebSv.exe (localhost:12080) to be always

>> listening, but I do see zeros in all its fields, yea.

>>

>> It's odd, though, I don't see NetZero (Exec.exe) on Kerio's "Opened

>> connections at localhost" list AT ALL-- but somehow my NET connection

>> is working fine! The apps there with the most activity by far are

>> Kerio apps. The only other one showing anything is IExplore.exe.

>> (Exec.exe is mentioned in the Kerio log file often enough, though.)

>>

>> HOWEVER, that list is not static. Let me open an URL & see what is

>> added... losts more IExplore.exe pop in/out. Could be Exec.exe pops

>> in/out too quick for me to see it (something certainly does).

>>

>> AshWebSv.exe still shows zero in its byte counts & speed numbers. But

>> all of the 4 AshMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service) ALSO show

>> zero in their counts-- yet that services is working! That is proven

>> by...

>>

>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Inbound message

>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

>>

>> ... in the Properties, Details tab, of all posts read into this

>> machine, & additionally...

>>

>> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000758-3, 07/22/2007), Outbound message

>> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

>>

>> ... is in the Properties of mine. Also, I know I cannot send or

>> receive any of the Eicar test viruses as an attachment, without

>> pausing avast!'s Internet Mail Provider first. That's for sure!

>>

>>> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

>>> would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

>>> count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything,

>>> irrespective of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently

>>> running") at the top of the box.

>>

>> I don't have a box like that in the Home Edition v.4.7. However, I

>> can pause & resume the various providers in a context menu. Let me

>> pause the WEB Shield Provider... everything looks the same in Kerio.

>> And STILL the virus is detected at...

>> http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

>> ... when I click either Eicar.com, which is the same as before. (The

>> .zipped ones, I have to open, before avast! will detect them. The

>> .txt ones, I have to R-Clk & scan.)

>>

>> I'm not sure what to think. Can it be, if WEB Shield were actually

>> working, I would not have to click anything at Eicar to get the

>> alert? I GUESS, I will try what you say, Zabcar-- thanks. I'll get

>> back to you later or tomorrow.

>

> UPDATE... OK, I made the change...

>

> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

>

> "Automatically detect settings".......... is unchecked.

> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is checked.

> ........................................... Address: localhost

> ........................................... Port: 12080

>

> I need to evaluate it further. I STILL have 4 AshMaiSv.exe & 1

> AshWebSv.exe in Kerio "listening" & showing ZEROS as before. I'm

> hoping a reboot will eliminate them.

>

> But, NOW I've got 2 MORE AshMaiSv.exe & 1 MORE AshWebSv.exe that DO

> seem to be functioning. They pop in/out of the list as necessary, it

> seems, when I click an URL.

>

> The Eicar site seems to work better. Now, every one of the 4 "standard

> protocol http" will trigger an avast! alert when clicked, not just the

> .com.

>

> The 4 "secure, SSL enabled protocol https" work as before-- the .com

> only will trigger the alert when clicked. The .txt must be R-Clkd &

> scanned after the download to trigger it. The .zip's must be unpacked

> first. Additionally, once the "secure" Eicar.com.txt is read in this

> way, the "standard" .txt will revert to behaving like that too-- until

> Eicar.com.txt is deleted.

>

> SO... that's lots better (I guess), thanks a lot, Fink (but you should

> change that name to Zabcar). You've been invaluable!

There's only one Zabcar (sic) on this board, no need to dilute/corrupt his

legacy with a dilettante. Right after this post I'm going to post a

screenshot of the Avast pane with the scan count on it, hopefully the

moderator will allow it. It's just a simple left click of the Avast tray

icon.

July 22, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

> .......Right after this post

> I'm going to post a screenshot of the Avast pane with the scan count

> on it, hopefully the moderator will allow it. It's just a simple left

> click of the Avast tray icon.

Sorry, image was 76kb but the news server wouldn't accept it. Tried twice.

July 23, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

"Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

news:eh2EkWJzHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

> PCR wrote:

>> Roger Fink wrote:

>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I hesitate

>>>> to offer...

>>>>

>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

>>>>

>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some of

>>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise & has

>>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

>>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there are

>>>> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

>>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

>>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

>>>> think it won't work!

>>>>

>>>

>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

>>> deal with this:

>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>>>

>>> which you can do by viewing these:

>>>

>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

>>>

>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just magically

>>> works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old

>>> Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,

>>> on balance, I'll take it.

>>

>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

>> anyhow.

>>

>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

>>

>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

>>

>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

>> NONE of those three is checked!

>>

>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected to

>> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

>> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN. And

>> it looks like I'm using one now!

>>

>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

>> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

>> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

>>

>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have done! I

>> think I've almost got it right now!

>

> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was operative. The

> reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as it did for

> Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that this wasn't being

> reflected in the statistics in the box, because for Webshield (only) the

> scan count was always zero.

>

> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I would

> confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned count", to make

> sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective of the feel-good news

> ("The provider is currently running") at the top of the box.

Good links, Roger. You're correct about Avast WebShield not actually doing anything

in Win9x unless you manually set the proxy settings in each browser used, to

localhost and port 12080

However, in my admittedly limited testing of WebShield used this way in Win98SE, I

found that installing the module, enabling it, and setting my browsers as described

slowed down my broadband connection on that computer, by sometimes as much as 50%

and generally about 30%....using Roadrunner cable from Time-Warner.

I have found it not worth installing the WebShield module at all, since I am fairly

strict about what I allow to run in my browser, re: Javascript, ActiveX and so

forth. YMMV.

What type of Internet connection do you have, and do you see a speed difference when

enabling WebShield? I am using http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest to compare.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

July 23, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

glee wrote:

> "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> news:eh2EkWJzHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>> PCR wrote:

>>> Roger Fink wrote:

>>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

>>>>> hesitate

>>>>> to offer...

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

>>>>>

>>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some

>>>>> of

>>>>> Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise &

>>>>> has

>>>>> many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into every

>>>>> archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side, there

>>>>> are

>>>>> some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will not try.

>>>>> However, archives are harmless until opened. At that point, it is

>>>>> avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's no reason to

>>>>> think it won't work!

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

>>>> deal with this:

>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

>>>>

>>>> which you can do by viewing these:

>>>>

>>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

>>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

>>>>

>>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

>>>> magically

>>>> works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow from the old

>>>> Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset stomach, but,

>>>> on balance, I'll take it.

>>>

>>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

>>> anyhow.

>>>

>>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

>>>

>>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

>>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

>>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

>>>

>>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

>>> NONE of those three is checked!

>>>

>>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

>>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected

>>> to

>>> install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

>>> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

>>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.

>>> And

>>> it looks like I'm using one now!

>>>

>>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

>>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

>>> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

>>> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

>>>

>>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

>>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have

>>> done! I

>>> think I've almost got it right now!

>>

>> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was

>> operative. The

>> reason was because when I opened up the display, it said so!, as it

>> did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I soon noticed that

>> this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in the box, because

>> for Webshield (only) the

>> scan count was always zero.

>>

>> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

>> would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

>> count", to make

>> sure Webshield is really doing anything, irrespective of the

>> feel-good news ("The provider is currently running") at the top of

>> the box.

>

> Good links, Roger. You're correct about Avast WebShield not actually

> doing anything in Win9x unless you manually set the proxy settings in

> each browser used, to localhost and port 12080

>

> However, in my admittedly limited testing of WebShield used this way

> in Win98SE, I found that installing the module, enabling it, and

> setting my browsers as described slowed down my broadband connection

> on that computer, by sometimes as much as 50% and generally about

> 30%....using Roadrunner cable from Time-Warner.

>

> I have found it not worth installing the WebShield module at all,

> since I am fairly strict about what I allow to run in my browser, re:

> Javascript, ActiveX and so forth. YMMV.

>

> What type of Internet connection do you have, and do you see a speed

> difference when enabling WebShield? I am using

> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest to compare.

Hi Glen, great link - I didn't know that service was available.

I use the basic Poor Man's Broadband, Verizon low end, which according to

the Westell modem site maxes out at 864/160, although the service is so

variable that often when I check it there it reads half of that, and I've

even seen it at 32kb. Moreover, there are usually 1-2 hours during the day

when it's down altogether. If you are not at an ideal infrastructure

location, broadband over unmaintained copper is Hell. A year ago I lived 25

miles away from here - same service, no problems at all.

But I apologize for digressing - tonight the service is consistent and was

read by Westell at 864kb download/160kb upload, so I went to speakeasy.net

and tried it both ways, running W2K:

With WebShield: 737kb/135kb

Without " : 706kb/135kb

Obviously you don't pick up speed with WebShield; I'm sure that the increase

was due to the fact that a small amount of time elapsed between the two

readings. But it appears that in my particular set of circumstances enabling

WebShield doesn't slow things down either. I try not to do anything too

stupid on the Internet but I admit that I'm spooked enough so that I'm not

comfortable without on-access protection.

A couple of things I should have added previously: the Avast scanned file

count reverts to zero once you close the browsers and email/newsreader

programs, so anyone who monitors the scanned file count from the Avast GUI

after opening up is going to see zero files scanned. You can leave the GUI

open, say on WebShield, and it will change in real time as it is put to use.

If the count doesn't change, then it's not set up right.

Avast deserves credit for going the extra mile on those two flash

presentations on setting WebShield up manually, but unfortunately, in the IE

one,

they state the port number correctly (12080) and the animation types it in

correctly, but the number that remains is 2080. The Firefox tutorial doesn't

have that problem.

July 23, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

Roger Fink wrote:

|> .......Right after this post

|> I'm going to post a screenshot of the Avast pane with the scan count

|> on it, hopefully the moderator will allow it. It's just a simple left

|> click of the Avast tray icon.

|

| Sorry, image was 76kb but the news server wouldn't accept it. Tried

| twice.

OK, I did the L-Clk on the avast! icon, & I see it myself, anyhow.

Hmmm, I can't perfectly recall what was happening before on that

screen-- after a while, I was doing R-Clk's only. I DO recall seeing a

"Last scanned" name in there before-- but I don't know which shield I

had highlighted in the L-Pane.

I GUESS, I'd have to go back to the old setting to see whether anything

shows for the WEB Shield. BUT, as I said, there is a marked improvement

of virus detection at the Eicar site this way. Thanks again for that,

Fink. So, if I do it, it would be for academic reasons only.

By the way, what happens with yours at the Eicar site...

http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm

For me... now, every one of the 4 "standard protocol http" will trigger

an avast! alert when clicked, not just the .com.

The 4 "secure, SSL enabled protocol https" work as before, though-- only

the .com will trigger the alert when clicked. The .txt file must be

R-Clkd & scanned after the download to trigger it. The .zip's must be

unpacked first.

Additionally, once the "secure" Eicar.com.txt is read in this way, the

"standard" .txt will revert to behaving like that too-- until

Eicar.com.txt is deleted.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 23, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

glee wrote:

| "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

| news:eh2EkWJzHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|>

|> PCR wrote:

|>> Roger Fink wrote:

|>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

|>>>> hesitate to offer...

|>>>>

|>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

|>>>>

|>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some

|>>>> of Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise

|>>>> & has many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into

|>>>> every archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side,

|>>>> there are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will

|>>>> not try. However, archives are harmless until opened. At that

|>>>> point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's

|>>>> no reason to think it won't work!

|>>>>

|>>>

|>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

|>>> deal with this:

|>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

|>>>

|>>> which you can do by viewing these:

|>>>

|>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

|>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

|>>>

|>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

|>>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow

|>>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset

|>>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.

|>>

|>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

|>> anyhow.

|>>

|>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

|>>

|>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

|>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

|>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

|>>

|>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

|>> NONE of those three is checked!

|>>

|>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

|>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected

|>> to install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

|>> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

|>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.

|>> And it looks like I'm using one now!

|>>

|>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

|>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

|>> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

|>> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

|>>

|>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

|>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have

|>> done! I think I've almost got it right now!

|>

|> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was

|> operative. The reason was because when I opened up the display, it

|> said so!, as it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I

|> soon noticed that this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in

|> the box, because for Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.

|>

|> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

|> would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

|> count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything,

|> irrespective of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently

|> running") at the top of the box.

|

| Good links, Roger. You're correct about Avast WebShield not actually

| doing anything in Win9x unless you manually set the proxy settings in

| each browser used, to localhost and port 12080

|

| However, in my admittedly limited testing of WebShield used this way

| in Win98SE, I found that installing the module, enabling it, and

| setting my browsers as described slowed down my broadband connection

| on that computer, by sometimes as much as 50% and generally about

| 30%....using Roadrunner cable from Time-Warner.

|

| I have found it not worth installing the WebShield module at all,

| since I am fairly strict about what I allow to run in my browser, re:

| Javascript, ActiveX and so forth. YMMV.

|

| What type of Internet connection do you have, and do you see a speed

| difference when enabling WebShield? I am using

| http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest to compare. --

I am Dial-Up & currently connected at 46,666 bps, says NetZero.

With WEB Shield running, speedtest says...

Download Speed: 49 kbps (6.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 70 kbps (8.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

With it paused...

Download Speed: 47 kbps (5.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 72 kbps (9 KB/sec transfer rate)

That doesn't look terribly bad. Avast!'s Add/Remove has a "Change"

button that seems to allow un/re-installing on a component basis. But

I'm not sure it's warranted to see how well that works!

| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| http://dts-l.org/

| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 23, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:uFbm24WzHHA.988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> glee wrote:

> | "Roger Fink" <fink@manana.org> wrote in message

> | news:eh2EkWJzHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |>

> |> PCR wrote:

> |>> Roger Fink wrote:

> |>>>> You are welcome. Let us know what your final decision is. I

> |>>>> hesitate to offer...

> |>>>>

> |>>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

> |>>>>

> |>>>> ..., because it does have a problem (though avoidable) with some

> |>>>> of Windows's icons. Also, although avast! behaves well otherwise

> |>>>> & has many wonderful functions & settings-- it DOESN'T get into

> |>>>> every archive file during its On-Demand scans! On the plus side,

> |>>>> there are some archives it DOES get into that even WinZip will

> |>>>> not try. However, archives are harmless until opened. At that

> |>>>> point, it is avast!'s On-Access scanner that matters-- & there's

> |>>>> no reason to think it won't work!

> |>>>>

> |>>>

> |>>> Emphatically agree, but would add that with 98, 98SE, you need to

> |>>> deal with this:

> |>>> http://www.avast.com/eng/webshield_issues.html#idt_6869

> |>>>

> |>>> which you can do by viewing these:

> |>>>

> |>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ieproxy.htm

> |>>> http://www.avast.com/files/tutorials/ws_ffproxy.htm

> |>>>

> |>>> Of course, now that I've high tech'd it to W2K, it all just

> |>>> magically works without tutorials or even human input. To borrow

> |>>> from the old Alka Seltzer ad, I've traded my headache for an upset

> |>>> stomach, but, on balance, I'll take it.

> |>>

> |>> I DIDN'T have to do any of that, either, in Win98 SE-- not manually,

> |>> anyhow.

> |>>

> |>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, LAN Settings button"...

> |>>

> |>> "Automatically detect settings".......... is checked.

> |>> "Use automatic configuration script"... is unchecked.

> |>> "Use a proxy server for your LAN"....... is unchecked.

> |>>

> |>> At "Internet Options, Connections tab, NetZero, Settings button"...

> |>> NONE of those three is checked!

> |>>

> |>> I'm abashedly unsure whether it was all like that before, but I

> |>> believe what was necessary was done automatically, when I selected

> |>> to install the avast! WEB Shield Provider. Could be things have been

> |>> reversed-- it was the NetZero setting that was checked before,

> |>> possibly. So far as I always thought, I do not have or use a LAN.

> |>> And it looks like I'm using one now!

> |>>

> |>> It's possible... yea, I think I did have to state my smpt & pop3

> |>> servers somewhere along the line, though. I appear to have said they

> |>> were... smtp.netzero.net & pop.netzero.net... respectively. Even IF

> |>> I've actually left out a "3"-- looks like all is working with that.

> |>>

> |>> HOWEVER, soon I will start a thread on what I should allow Kerio to

> |>> allow IN & OUT for avast!-- above & beyond what I already have

> |>> done! I think I've almost got it right now!

> |>

> |> PCR - When I first installed Avast I thought Webshield was

> |> operative. The reason was because when I opened up the display, it

> |> said so!, as it did for Internet Mail and Standard Shield. But I

> |> soon noticed that this wasn't being reflected in the statistics in

> |> the box, because for Webshield (only) the scan count was always zero.

> |>

> |> You may indeed have a fully working installation of Webshield, but I

> |> would confirm it by checking the statistics, i.e. the "scanned

> |> count", to make sure Webshield is really doing anything,

> |> irrespective of the feel-good news ("The provider is currently

> |> running") at the top of the box.

> |

> | Good links, Roger. You're correct about Avast WebShield not actually

> | doing anything in Win9x unless you manually set the proxy settings in

> | each browser used, to localhost and port 12080

> |

> | However, in my admittedly limited testing of WebShield used this way

> | in Win98SE, I found that installing the module, enabling it, and

> | setting my browsers as described slowed down my broadband connection

> | on that computer, by sometimes as much as 50% and generally about

> | 30%....using Roadrunner cable from Time-Warner.

> |

> | I have found it not worth installing the WebShield module at all,

> | since I am fairly strict about what I allow to run in my browser, re:

> | Javascript, ActiveX and so forth. YMMV.

> |

> | What type of Internet connection do you have, and do you see a speed

> | difference when enabling WebShield? I am using

> | http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest to compare. --

>

> I am Dial-Up & currently connected at 46,666 bps, says NetZero.

>

> With WEB Shield running, speedtest says...

>

> Download Speed: 49 kbps (6.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

> Upload Speed: 70 kbps (8.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

>

> With it paused...

>

> Download Speed: 47 kbps (5.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

> Upload Speed: 72 kbps (9 KB/sec transfer rate)

>

> That doesn't look terribly bad. Avast!'s Add/Remove has a "Change"

> button that seems to allow un/re-installing on a component basis. But

> I'm not sure it's warranted to see how well that works!

>

OK guys, thanks....Roger and PCR. It looks like then the problem must be with the

network settings on that computer, as my other systems are getting better speeds

than the 98SE system, through the same router, regardless of whether WebShield is

running. I'll have to go play with the Receive Window size, etc. Thanks for the

reports!

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

July 24, 2007

Re: virus/firewall protection

glee wrote:

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:uFbm24WzHHA.988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> glee wrote:

....snip

|> | Good links, Roger. You're correct about Avast WebShield not

|> | actually doing anything in Win9x unless you manually set the proxy

|> | settings in each browser used, to localhost and port 12080

|> |

|> | However, in my admittedly limited testing of WebShield used this

|> | way in Win98SE, I found that installing the module, enabling it,

|> | and setting my browsers as described slowed down my broadband

|> | connection on that computer, by sometimes as much as 50% and

|> | generally about 30%....using Roadrunner cable from Time-Warner.

|> |

|> | I have found it not worth installing the WebShield module at all,

|> | since I am fairly strict about what I allow to run in my browser,

|> | re: Javascript, ActiveX and so forth. YMMV.

|> |

|> | What type of Internet connection do you have, and do you see a

|> | speed difference when enabling WebShield? I am using

|> | http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest to compare. --

|>

|> I am Dial-Up & currently connected at 46,666 bps, says NetZero.

|>

|> With WEB Shield running, speedtest says...

|>

|> Download Speed: 49 kbps (6.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

|> Upload Speed: 70 kbps (8.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

|>

|> With it paused...

|>

|> Download Speed: 47 kbps (5.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

|> Upload Speed: 72 kbps (9 KB/sec transfer rate)

|>

|> That doesn't look terribly bad. Avast!'s Add/Remove has a "Change"

|> button that seems to allow un/re-installing on a component basis. But

|> I'm not sure it's warranted to see how well that works!

|>

| OK guys, thanks....Roger and PCR. It looks like then the problem

| must be with the network settings on that computer, as my other

| systems are getting better speeds than the 98SE system, through the

| same router, regardless of whether WebShield is running. I'll have

| to go play with the Receive Window size, etc. Thanks for the reports!

You are welcome. Good luck with that. Here are today's figures...

NetZero reports... 50,666 bps.

With WEB Shield...

Download Speed: 49 kbps (6.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 90 kbps (11.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Without it...

Download Speed: 47 kbps (5.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

Upload Speed: 88 kbps (11 KB/sec transfer rate)

In all cases, yesterday & today, I report the best of two runs each.

| --

| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| http://dts-l.org/

| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

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