Guest Stephan Rose Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 I seem to be seeing some weird things happening to my XP file system. One directory is inaccessible in every way shape and form with errors telling me that it can't read from the disk. Then I have 2 additional directories that are both pointing to the same identical content. Their names are even identical save that one is missing the last character. Of course, chkdsk, being dumber than a rock, finds absolutely no problems and thinks everything is just peachy. But it's quite apparent that this is not the case. Anyone have any suggestions beyond the usual Microsoft Fix: reformat, reinstall and screw up master boot record / dual boot? Thanks, -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Clark Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message news:E_SdncSpg8mOuDzbRVnyuwA@giganews.com... >I seem to be seeing some weird things happening to my XP file system. > > One directory is inaccessible in every way shape and form with errors > telling me that it can't read from the disk. > > Then I have 2 additional directories that are both pointing to the same > identical content. Their names are even identical save that one is missing > the last character. > > Of course, chkdsk, being dumber than a rock, finds absolutely no > problems and thinks everything is just peachy. But it's quite apparent > that this is not the case. > > Anyone have any suggestions beyond the usual Microsoft Fix: reformat, > reinstall and screw up master boot record / dual boot? > > Thanks, > > -- > Stephan > 2003 Yamaha R6 > > ???????????????? > ?????????????? Have you tried HDtune? http://www.hdtune.com/ It will tell you allot about the drive Clark
Guest Bob Harris Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? Try running CHKDSK with the /R option from within the XP recovery console. Links about recovery console: http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm (near bottom) http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_rec.htm http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058 The recovery console can be run from most XP CDs, or from a set of floppy disks that you can download free from Microsoft. (images are free; you provide the floppies). Microsoft calles the floppy set "setup disks". http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994 Note: If the recovery console asks for a password, it means the password of the person/company that installed XP, not the password of a random person with administrator priveleges. When in doubt, try blank, meaning just hit the enter key once. If the password gets to be an issue, and if you can still boot into XP as an random administrator, try the following registry change, then reboot into the recovery console via CD or floppies: Start à Run à Regedit Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole Set the DWORD SecurityLevel value to 1 "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message news:E_SdncSpg8mOuDzbRVnyuwA@giganews.com... >I seem to be seeing some weird things happening to my XP file system. > > One directory is inaccessible in every way shape and form with errors > telling me that it can't read from the disk. > > Then I have 2 additional directories that are both pointing to the same > identical content. Their names are even identical save that one is missing > the last character. > > Of course, chkdsk, being dumber than a rock, finds absolutely no > problems and thinks everything is just peachy. But it's quite apparent > that this is not the case. > > Anyone have any suggestions beyond the usual Microsoft Fix: reformat, > reinstall and screw up master boot record / dual boot? > > Thanks, > > -- > Stephan > 2003 Yamaha R6 > > ???????????????? > ??????????????
Guest Stephan Rose Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:28:41 -0500, Bob Harris wrote: > Try running CHKDSK with the /R option from within the XP recovery > console. I already ran it with that option at boot time, it reported no errors. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Stephan Rose Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:18:23 -0400, Clark wrote: > "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message > news:E_SdncSpg8mOuDzbRVnyuwA@giganews.com... >>I seem to be seeing some weird things happening to my XP file system. >> >> One directory is inaccessible in every way shape and form with errors >> telling me that it can't read from the disk. >> >> Then I have 2 additional directories that are both pointing to the same >> identical content. Their names are even identical save that one is missing >> the last character. >> >> Of course, chkdsk, being dumber than a rock, finds absolutely no >> problems and thinks everything is just peachy. But it's quite apparent >> that this is not the case. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions beyond the usual Microsoft Fix: reformat, >> reinstall and screw up master boot record / dual boot? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Stephan >> 2003 Yamaha R6 >> >> ???????????????? >> ?????????????? > > Have you tried HDtune? > > http://www.hdtune.com/ > > It will tell you allot about the drive Ran it, everything is peachy hardware wise as I pretty much expected. The drive is fairly new maxtor, less than a year old. I'd have really been surprised if it had found hardware errors. My experience with Maxtor has generally always been very good. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest Ron Martell Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: > >Ran it, everything is peachy hardware wise as I pretty much expected. The >drive is fairly new maxtor, less than a year old. I'd have really been >surprised if it had found hardware errors. My experience with Maxtor has >generally always been very good. Have you ran the Maxtor diagnostics on the drive? Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Guest Plato Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? Ron Martell wrote: > > >Ran it, everything is peachy hardware wise as I pretty much expected. The > >drive is fairly new maxtor, less than a year old. I'd have really been > >surprised if it had found hardware errors. My experience with Maxtor has > >generally always been very good. > > Have you ran the Maxtor diagnostics on the drive? http://www.seagate.com/maxtor/ http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/ -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest Stephan Rose Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:54:43 -0700, Ron Martell wrote: > Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: > > >> >>Ran it, everything is peachy hardware wise as I pretty much expected. The >>drive is fairly new maxtor, less than a year old. I'd have really been >>surprised if it had found hardware errors. My experience with Maxtor has >>generally always been very good. > > Have you ran the Maxtor diagnostics on the drive? Yea I just did earlier, everything came back just fine. Most likely I am just going to have to reinstall XP which now presents me with a new interesting problem. XP CD won't boot! Tried more than one...I have enough of those things to stack them like AOL disks. The drive though is fine as I use it daily to watch DVDs, plus the maxtor diagnostic CD booted fine, plus my ubuntu live CDs also boot fine. XP However, no matter what, the install CD will not boot. It asks me if I want to boot from CD, then followed by a short bit of CD activity, and then nothing. Since multiple XP CDs do this...not a CD problem such as a scratch either. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest RalfG Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? Interesting alright. The harddrive functions, because you can access files and play videos... Diagnostics and chkdsk show nothing wrong. The CD drive and motherboard function, because you can boot an Ubuntu live disc XP cd's won't boot however, so something on the harddrive is interfering with XP. Malware perhaps, or some low-level driver or virtual device. Maxtor's harddrive overlay software maybe? Or something on the drive created by Linux? If you can substitute a different harddrive in place of the one that's acting strangely I'd first try installing XP clean onto that, just to eliminate the possiblity that the problem stems from any of the other hardware in the computer. If it comes to it, you might be able to avoid a complete harddrive wipe and reformat by using some partitioning software to create a new D: partition to put your user files in, then wipe and reformat the C: partition for a clean XP install. The partitioning software might also show up existing irregularities, if any. "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message news:WdGdnabrE99KkD_bRVnyiQA@giganews.com... > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:54:43 -0700, Ron Martell wrote: > >> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>Ran it, everything is peachy hardware wise as I pretty much expected. The >>>drive is fairly new maxtor, less than a year old. I'd have really been >>>surprised if it had found hardware errors. My experience with Maxtor has >>>generally always been very good. >> >> Have you ran the Maxtor diagnostics on the drive? > > Yea I just did earlier, everything came back just fine. > > Most likely I am just going to have to reinstall XP which now presents me > with a new interesting problem. > > XP CD won't boot! Tried more than one...I have enough of those things to > stack them like AOL disks. > > The drive though is fine as I use it daily to watch DVDs, plus the maxtor > diagnostic CD booted fine, plus my ubuntu live CDs also boot fine. > > XP However, no matter what, the install CD will not boot. It asks me if I > want to boot from CD, then followed by a short bit of CD activity, and > then nothing. Since multiple XP CDs do this...not a CD problem such as a > scratch either. > > -- > Stephan > 2003 Yamaha R6 > > ???????????????? > ??????????????
Guest Stephan Rose Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:24:27 -0400, RalfG wrote: > Interesting alright. > > The harddrive functions, because you can access files and play videos... > Diagnostics and chkdsk show nothing wrong. > > The CD drive and motherboard function, because you can boot an Ubuntu live > disc > > XP cd's won't boot however, so something on the harddrive is interfering > with XP. Malware perhaps, or some low-level driver or virtual device. > Maxtor's harddrive overlay software maybe? Or something on the drive created > by Linux? > > If you can substitute a different harddrive in place of the one that's > acting strangely I'd first try installing XP clean onto that, just to > eliminate the possiblity that the problem stems from any of the other > hardware in the computer. > > If it comes to it, you might be able to avoid a complete harddrive wipe and > reformat by using some partitioning software to create a new D: partition to > put your user files in, then wipe and reformat the C: partition for a clean > XP install. The partitioning software might also show up existing > irregularities, if any. I discovered what the problem is on a forum thread somewhere via Google. Apparently I am not the first person to have problems with the WinXP Install CD. The problem is that I have too complex of a disk & partition setup for XP's setup to handle causing it to freeze at startup. So what I'll probably have to do is remove all drives except the XP drive and then try again. That should hopefully work. Thanks everyone, -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは 君のこと忘れたときがないから
Guest cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: NTFS Corruption? On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:24:27 -0400, "RalfG" This looks like an interesting thread; I'm late to the party, tho... >The harddrive functions, because you can access files and play videos... >Diagnostics and chkdsk show nothing wrong. http://www.hdtune.com would be my choice for hardware testing; runs from Bart CDR boot but not WinPE 2.0 boot (and MS won't fix that; I asked). In SMART detail, the data values for Offline Uncorrectable, Reallocated Sectors and Pending Sectors should all be zero, irrespective of whether the conclusion drawn is "OK" or not. And obviously, no red blocks on the "slow' surface scan! >The CD drive and motherboard function, because you can boot an Ubuntu live >XP cd's won't boot however, so something on the harddrive is interfering >with XP. Malware perhaps, or some low-level driver or virtual device. >Maxtor's harddrive overlay software maybe? Or something on the drive created >by Linux? Basically, any "special" MBR code may lock you into access via that code, especially if the partition table is moved or overridden by something else. Boot managers, HD vendor's DDO (avoid that crap!). boot viruses of bygone days can all do that. So a generic boot CD won't work, it it cares about what it sees. That implies the Linux CDR doesn't care about what the XP CD cares about, i.e. the problem is within MS space, which should begin only from the PBR (Partition Boot Record) onwards. Material within the file system, such as leftovers from a previous failed OS install, can kick in as well. Ah, going back in time... >"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message >> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:54:43 -0700, Ron Martell wrote: >>> Stephan Rose <nospam@spammer.com> wrote: >> XP CD won't boot! Tried more than one...I have enough of those things to >> stack them like AOL disks. In what way does it fail? >> XP However, no matter what, the install CD will not boot. It asks me if I >> want to boot from CD, then followed by a short bit of CD activity, and >> then nothing. Since multiple XP CDs do this...not a CD problem such as a >> scratch either. My guess would be either this problem... http://cquirke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C7DAB1E724AB8C23!188.entry?_c=BlogPart ....if you see a BSoD STOP error (or the crappy automatic restart that hides this), else leftovers from a previous OS install attempt, if it just bogs down and hangs. >--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - To one who only has a hammer, everything looks like a nail >--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
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