Guest +Bob+ Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 A friend of mine had his hard drive go bad. He purchased a new 300G drive, installed it, used his "restore" disk (Ghost)from the manufacturer to rebuild his system. So far so good. But, he can't anything on the hard drive beyond the basic partition that the restore (Ghost) process created. He has one 32G partition, and that's it. Is there any way to get an extended partition now so that he can use the extra space? Disk Administrator shows no free space, Diskpart does not see anything either. Yet he's got 270G open space on the drive. Thanks,
Guest John Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: new Hard drive - can't see new space +Bob+ wrote: > A friend of mine had his hard drive go bad. He purchased a new 300G > drive, installed it, used his "restore" disk (Ghost)from the > manufacturer to rebuild his system. So far so good. > > But, he can't anything on the hard drive beyond the basic partition > that the restore (Ghost) process created. He has one 32G partition, > and that's it. Is there any way to get an extended partition now so > that he can use the extra space? Disk Administrator shows no free > space, Diskpart does not see anything either. Yet he's got 270G open > space on the drive. > > Thanks, It's because it's not been formatted. John.
Guest Anna Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: new Hard drive - can't see new space > +Bob+ wrote: >> A friend of mine had his hard drive go bad. He purchased a new 300G >> drive, installed it, used his "restore" disk (Ghost)from the >> manufacturer to rebuild his system. So far so good. >> >> But, he can't anything on the hard drive beyond the basic partition >> that the restore (Ghost) process created. He has one 32G partition, >> and that's it. Is there any way to get an extended partition now so >> that he can use the extra space? Disk Administrator shows no free >> space, Diskpart does not see anything either. Yet he's got 270G open >> space on the drive. Thanks, Bob: It's really impossible to respond intelligently to your query based on the information you provided. You simply have to clarify the problem involved and at the same time provide more meaningful details concerning the problem and the system involved... 1. Tell us something about the machine your friend is using - the make & model. Presumably it's an OEM-branded machine, yes? Do you or he happen to know the make/model of the motherboard? 2. Does the machine boot & operate properly when using whatever original HDD (PATA? SATA?) was installed in that machine? Any problems at all with the system notwithstanding the problem with the 300 GB HDD? How is that boot HDD partitioned/formatted? 3. Is the only reason he purchased a 300 GB HDD (PATA? SATA?) was to obtain additional disk capacity? No other reason? 4. Presumably the OS is XP. Contains SP1 and/or SP2? 5. Provide more details about how he used "his restore disk (Ghost) from the manufacturer to rebuild his system". How was the 300 GB HDD connected/configured in the system? Is he certain all the connections - jumper settings were proper? What do you mean "Ghost"? Are you referring to the disk cloning program from Symantec called Norton Ghost? Did he clone the contents of the original HDD to the new 300 GB HDD using that program? Or are you simply referring to the recovery or restore CD provided by the manufacturer of his OEM machine? And if so, are you sure he used it correctly? 6. You mention a "32G partition". Could there be some FAT32 file system issue involved here? And you mention "he's got 270G open space on the drive." What is "open space"? Unallocated space that you see in Disk Management (I assume that's what you mean by "Disk Administrator")? Ordinarily, a 300 GB HDD will reflect about 279 GB binary in the system. So where does that "32G partition" fit in here? Anna
Guest Lil' Dave Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: new Hard drive - can't see new space "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message news:O2Ix1ILzHHA.5376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> +Bob+ wrote: >>> A friend of mine had his hard drive go bad. He purchased a new 300G >>> drive, installed it, used his "restore" disk (Ghost)from the >>> manufacturer to rebuild his system. So far so good. >>> >>> But, he can't anything on the hard drive beyond the basic partition >>> that the restore (Ghost) process created. He has one 32G partition, >>> and that's it. Is there any way to get an extended partition now so >>> that he can use the extra space? Disk Administrator shows no free >>> space, Diskpart does not see anything either. Yet he's got 270G open >>> space on the drive. Thanks, > > > Bob: > It's really impossible to respond intelligently to your query based on the > information you provided. You simply have to clarify the problem involved > and at the same time provide more meaningful details concerning the > problem and the system involved... > > 1. Tell us something about the machine your friend is using - the make & > model. Presumably it's an OEM-branded machine, yes? Do you or he happen to > know the make/model of the motherboard? > > 2. Does the machine boot & operate properly when using whatever original > HDD (PATA? SATA?) was installed in that machine? Any problems at all with > the system notwithstanding the problem with the 300 GB HDD? How is that > boot HDD partitioned/formatted? > > 3. Is the only reason he purchased a 300 GB HDD (PATA? SATA?) was to > obtain additional disk capacity? No other reason? > > 4. Presumably the OS is XP. Contains SP1 and/or SP2? > > 5. Provide more details about how he used "his restore disk (Ghost) from > the manufacturer to rebuild his system". How was the 300 GB HDD > connected/configured in the system? Is he certain all the connections - > jumper settings were proper? What do you mean "Ghost"? Are you referring > to the disk cloning program from Symantec called Norton Ghost? Did he > clone the contents of the original HDD to the new 300 GB HDD using that > program? Or are you simply referring to the recovery or restore CD > provided by the manufacturer of his OEM machine? And if so, are you sure > he used it correctly? > > 6. You mention a "32G partition". Could there be some FAT32 file system > issue involved here? And you mention "he's got 270G open space on the > drive." What is "open space"? Unallocated space that you see in Disk > Management (I assume that's what you mean by "Disk Administrator")? > Ordinarily, a 300 GB HDD will reflect about 279 GB binary in the system. > So where does that "32G partition" fit in here? > Anna > > > > Uhh, why are you piggy-backing John's reply to reply to +Bob+? At least that what I see in the hierarchy of the thread. Dave
Guest Anna Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: new Hard drive - can't see new space >>> +Bob+ wrote: >>>> A friend of mine had his hard drive go bad. He purchased a new 300G >>>> drive, installed it, used his "restore" disk (Ghost)from the >>>> manufacturer to rebuild his system. So far so good. >>>> >>>> But, he can't anything on the hard drive beyond the basic partition >>>> that the restore (Ghost) process created. He has one 32G partition, >>>> and that's it. Is there any way to get an extended partition now so >>>> that he can use the extra space? Disk Administrator shows no free >>>> space, Diskpart does not see anything either. Yet he's got 270G open >>>> space on the drive. Thanks, > "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message > news:O2Ix1ILzHHA.5376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Bob: >> It's really impossible to respond intelligently to your query based on >> the information you provided. You simply have to clarify the problem >> involved and at the same time provide more meaningful details concerning >> the problem and the system involved... >> >> 1. Tell us something about the machine your friend is using - the make & >> model. Presumably it's an OEM-branded machine, yes? Do you or he happen >> to know the make/model of the motherboard? >> >> 2. Does the machine boot & operate properly when using whatever original >> HDD (PATA? SATA?) was installed in that machine? Any problems at all with >> the system notwithstanding the problem with the 300 GB HDD? How is that >> boot HDD partitioned/formatted? >> >> 3. Is the only reason he purchased a 300 GB HDD (PATA? SATA?) was to >> obtain additional disk capacity? No other reason? >> >> 4. Presumably the OS is XP. Contains SP1 and/or SP2? >> >> 5. Provide more details about how he used "his restore disk (Ghost) from >> the manufacturer to rebuild his system". How was the 300 GB HDD >> connected/configured in the system? Is he certain all the connections - >> jumper settings were proper? What do you mean "Ghost"? Are you referring >> to the disk cloning program from Symantec called Norton Ghost? Did he >> clone the contents of the original HDD to the new 300 GB HDD using that >> program? Or are you simply referring to the recovery or restore CD >> provided by the manufacturer of his OEM machine? And if so, are you sure >> he used it correctly? >> >> 6. You mention a "32G partition". Could there be some FAT32 file system >> issue involved here? And you mention "he's got 270G open space on the >> drive." What is "open space"? Unallocated space that you see in Disk >> Management (I assume that's what you mean by "Disk Administrator")? >> Ordinarily, a 300 GB HDD will reflect about 279 GB binary in the system. >> So where does that "32G partition" fit in here? >> Anna "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message news:OhROtgNzHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Uhh, why are you piggy-backing John's reply to reply to +Bob+? At least > that what I see in the hierarchy of the thread. > Dave Uhh, here, verbatim, was John's post responding to the OP's query... "John" <John@zen.co.uk> wrote in message news:46a381fb$0$15852$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk... "> It's because it's not been formatted. > > John." And you consider my response to the OP "piggy-backing"? Anna
Guest +Bob+ Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: new Hard drive - can't see new space On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:46:50 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote: >1. Tell us something about the machine your friend is using - the make & >model. Presumably it's an OEM-branded machine, yes? Do you or he happen to >know the make/model of the motherboard? E-machines, t2080, originally 80G drive. >2. Does the machine boot & operate properly when using whatever original HDD >(PATA? SATA?) was installed in that machine? Any problems at all with the >system notwithstanding the problem with the 300 GB HDD? How is that boot HDD >partitioned/formatted? Original drive (ATA100) is dead (boot failure). Not sure yet if it will spin up for non-boot access. >3. Is the only reason he purchased a 300 GB HDD (PATA? SATA?) was to obtain >additional disk capacity? No other reason? to replace the dead drive. > >4. Presumably the OS is XP. Contains SP1 and/or SP2? Restore disk contains a (Norton) Ghost image with SP1 in the image. > >5. Provide more details about how he used "his restore disk (Ghost) from the >manufacturer to rebuild his system". How was the 300 GB HDD >connected/configured in the system? Is he certain all the connections - >jumper settings were proper? What do you mean "Ghost"? Are you referring to >the disk cloning program from Symantec called Norton Ghost? Did he clone the >contents of the original HDD to the new 300 GB HDD using that program? Or >are you simply referring to the recovery or restore CD provided by the >manufacturer of his OEM machine? And if so, are you sure he used it >correctly? It's a "boot and flush" restore disk from e-machines. Boot it, choose the option (only option) to restore the system, OK the warnings about erasing the hard drive, it's like starting from day one on that system. >6. You mention a "32G partition". Could there be some FAT32 file system >issue involved here? Initially, yes. He used a boot disk (win 98) to create a FAT32 partition that was 32G. The expectation was that the restore program from e-machines would just wipe this anyway but it looks like it placed the restored image in it, rather than replacing it. I am planning him to try the restore with no partition there at all, but I', making a wild guess that he gets (at best) the 80G partition back that he had on the original drive. >And you mention "he's got 270G open space on the >drive." What is "open space"? Unallocated space that you see in Disk >Management (I assume that's what you mean by "Disk Administrator")? >Ordinarily, a 300 GB HDD will reflect about 279 GB binary in the system. So >where does that "32G partition" fit in here? >Anna Total new drive space is 300G. As it stands now, he sees the 32G partition in Disk Management but he does not see any of the remaining space showing up as available (i.e. unpartitioned, unallocated, etc). From Disk Management, it looks like he has a drive with a physical size of 32G, all of which is occupied by the primary partition.
Guest Anna Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Re: new Hard drive - can't see new space "+Bob+" <uctraing@ultranet.com> wrote in message news:g90da3dscrm52dcu7vk4uk7bqcmbq2p3kn@4ax.com... > On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:46:50 -0400, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote: > > >>1. Tell us something about the machine your friend is using - the make & >>model. Presumably it's an OEM-branded machine, yes? Do you or he happen to >>know the make/model of the motherboard? > > E-machines, t2080, originally 80G drive. > >>2. Does the machine boot & operate properly when using whatever original >>HDD >>(PATA? SATA?) was installed in that machine? Any problems at all with the >>system notwithstanding the problem with the 300 GB HDD? How is that boot >>HDD >>partitioned/formatted? > > Original drive (ATA100) is dead (boot failure). Not sure yet if it > will spin up for non-boot access. > >>3. Is the only reason he purchased a 300 GB HDD (PATA? SATA?) was to >>obtain >>additional disk capacity? No other reason? > > to replace the dead drive. > >> >>4. Presumably the OS is XP. Contains SP1 and/or SP2? > > Restore disk contains a (Norton) Ghost image with SP1 in the image. > >> >>5. Provide more details about how he used "his restore disk (Ghost) from >>the >>manufacturer to rebuild his system". How was the 300 GB HDD >>connected/configured in the system? Is he certain all the connections - >>jumper settings were proper? What do you mean "Ghost"? Are you referring >>to >>the disk cloning program from Symantec called Norton Ghost? Did he clone >>the >>contents of the original HDD to the new 300 GB HDD using that program? Or >>are you simply referring to the recovery or restore CD provided by the >>manufacturer of his OEM machine? And if so, are you sure he used it >>correctly? > > It's a "boot and flush" restore disk from e-machines. Boot it, choose > the option (only option) to restore the system, OK the warnings about > erasing the hard drive, it's like starting from day one on that > system. > >>6. You mention a "32G partition". Could there be some FAT32 file system >>issue involved here? > > Initially, yes. He used a boot disk (win 98) to create a FAT32 > partition that was 32G. The expectation was that the restore program > from e-machines would just wipe this anyway but it looks like it > placed the restored image in it, rather than replacing it. > > I am planning him to try the restore with no partition there at all, > but I', making a wild guess that he gets (at best) the 80G partition > back that he had on the original drive. > >>And you mention "he's got 270G open space on the >>drive." What is "open space"? Unallocated space that you see in Disk >>Management (I assume that's what you mean by "Disk Administrator")? >>Ordinarily, a 300 GB HDD will reflect about 279 GB binary in the system. >>So >>where does that "32G partition" fit in here? >>Anna > > Total new drive space is 300G. As it stands now, he sees the 32G > partition in Disk Management but he does not see any of the remaining > space showing up as available (i.e. unpartitioned, unallocated, etc). > From Disk Management, it looks like he has a drive with a physical > size of 32G, all of which is occupied by the primary partition. Bob: At this point, since your friend has access to Disk Management and at least the drive is reflected by that utility, would it make sense to simply delete that present 32 GB partition and (hopefully) be able to single partition & format the disk NTFS and then just give it another try with the eMachines restore/recovery CD? And in the meantime could you or he check with eMachines (Gateway) to see if they can provide him with a "full" XP installation CD at some nominal cost which would allow him to undertake a Repair install of the OS? Or if that's unavailable, perhaps an updated restore/recovery CD for his model eMachines is available? Anna
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