Guest Talal Itani Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Hello, I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that XP finished accessing the card? Thanks
Guest Detlev Dreyer Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote: > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the > memory card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? Why don't you check with the device manager > drives > drive (double- click) > Policies tab. > How do I guarantee that XP finished accessing the card? Logon with administrative privileges and tick the "Optimize for quick removal" option. [X-Post: 3 Groups] -- d-d
Guest Noozer Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3cLoi.503$Ub7.478@trnddc04... > Hello, > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that > XP finished accessing the card? If you need that data I'd do it properly. It does make a difference. For example... I stick an SD card into my reader and copy some MP3s to it, then copy some more. If I pull the SD card out and put it in my player the second bunch of MP3s will be missing. This happens even if I leave the card in the reader for an hour or more. If I don't flush before removing I lose that last batch of files.
Guest Talal Itani Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory > If you need that data I'd do it properly. It does make a difference. > > For example... I stick an SD card into my reader and copy some MP3s to it, > then copy some more. If I pull the SD card out and put it in my player the > second bunch of MP3s will be missing. This happens even if I leave the > card in the reader for an hour or more. If I don't flush before removing I > lose that last batch of files. Is the flush done by doing the: 'Safely Remove Hardware?'
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:02:07 GMT, "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? No. > How do I guarantee that XP > finished accessing the card? Click "Safely Remove Hardware." -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Noozer Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message news:TBLoi.2869$ib7.588@trnddc02... > >> If you need that data I'd do it properly. It does make a difference. >> >> For example... I stick an SD card into my reader and copy some MP3s to >> it, then copy some more. If I pull the SD card out and put it in my >> player the second bunch of MP3s will be missing. This happens even if I >> leave the card in the reader for an hour or more. If I don't flush before >> removing I lose that last batch of files. > Is the flush done by doing the: 'Safely Remove Hardware?' Yes... Also, I didn't mention this, but my SD reader is set to "Optimize for quick removal", but that doesn't seem to matter. I still need to use the Safely Remove Hardware icon before I take it out.
Guest Talal Itani Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory >> Hello, >> >> I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the >> memory >> card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? > > > No. > I think there are three ways: 1- Safely remove hardware 2- Eject 3- Set: Optimize for quick removal Do all the above accomplish the same thing?
Guest Phil Weldon Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory 'Talal Itani' wrote: | I think there are three ways: | | 1- Safely remove hardware | 2- Eject | 3- Set: Optimize for quick removal | | Do all the above accomplish the same thing? _____ Why don't you experiment to find out? This will not harm the flash memory, but you may lose some of the files. Then post the results. Phil Weldon "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message news:41Moi.12065$U47.3708@trnddc08... | | >> Hello, | >> | >> I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the | >> memory | >> card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? | > | > | > No. | > | | I think there are three ways: | | 1- Safely remove hardware | 2- Eject | 3- Set: Optimize for quick removal | | Do all the above accomplish the same thing? | |
Guest M Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3cLoi.503$Ub7.478@trnddc04... > Hello, > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that > XP finished accessing the card? > > Thanks > > > If your Safely Remove Hardware icon is not in the notification area then you can create a shortcut to do the same thing. Shortcut %SystemRoot%\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll Icon %SystemRoot%\system32\hotplug.dll
Guest Talal Itani Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory > If your Safely Remove Hardware icon is not in the notification area then > you > can create a shortcut to do the same thing. > > Shortcut > %SystemRoot%\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll > > Icon > %SystemRoot%\system32\hotplug.dll Thanks for the info. I would like to run the flush from the command line prompt. Do you know if there is a command for that?
Guest Plato Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory Talal Itani wrote: > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that XP > finished accessing the card? IT's best to wait until windows is finished with the thumb drive before you remove it. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest PD43 Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory On Jul 22, 6:56 pm, Plato <|@|.|> wrote: > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that XP > > finished accessing the card? > > IT's best to wait until windows is finished with the thumb drive before > you remove it. And what did you tell the OP that would help in determining that?? NOTHING
Guest Noozer Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory > I think there are three ways: > > 1- Safely remove hardware > 2- Eject > 3- Set: Optimize for quick removal > > Do all the above accomplish the same thing? NO! #3 does NOT save you if you yank a drive out at the wrong time. #3 does not sync the last writes to my SD cards, no matter how many HOURS I wait.
Guest Plato Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory Talal Itani wrote: > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that XP > finished accessing the card? Best bet is to do what windows asked you to do. ie dont pull the thumb drive until windows is finished with it. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
Guest Paul Randall Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory ----- Original Message ----- From: "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Pulling Flash Memory > Hello, > > I have an external USB flash memory reader. Is it safe to pull the memory > card, without clicking: safely remove hardware? How do I guarantee that > XP finished accessing the card? > > Thanks .... > I think there are three ways: > > 1- Safely remove hardware > 2- Eject > 3- Set: Optimize for quick removal I have never trusted or used 3. I prefer to see something actually indicate that the card can be removed. Safely remove hardware can be used, but should only be used when you are actually going to unplug the USB connection. The 'safely remove hardware' option is for removing the card reader -- it deactivates the reader and pops up a message. When you get the 'safe to remove hardware message', it is safe to unplug the card reader from the USB port and it is equally safe to just unplug the card from the USB reader. You will run into a problem, though, if you don't unplug the card reader from the USB port because no more cards can be seen until the reader has been unplugged and replugged in. On systems with built-in card readers, using 'safely remove hardware' disables all the card reader slots until you reboot -- a real pain. Eject is for removing the card from the reader, but leaves the reader active so that another card is recognized when it is plugged into the reader. But there is no 'safe to remove card' message, so how do you know when it is safe to remove the card? There is no 'one size fits all' solution. On most systems, each card slot may show up as a separate drive letter. Each of these drives has a 'label'. With no card in the slot, it might say 'removable drive', or might say something like 'CF Reader' or 'SD Reader'. With a card inserted, it might display the actual lable of the card, which you can change when you reformat the card. So, for example, if you have a card inserted that says 8 MEG CF (H:) in My Computer, and you do the Eject option, it will probably change to 'Removable Disk (H)' when it is safe to remove the card. Some USB multicard readers show up in My Computer as only one drive letters and others may show up as four drive letters. You have to play with your system and learn how it works, and that knowledge may or may not apply to the next computer with the same OS. -Paul Randall
Guest M Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Pulling Flash Memory "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message news:pERoi.1148$2c7.373@trnddc06... > >> If your Safely Remove Hardware icon is not in the notification area then >> you >> can create a shortcut to do the same thing. >> >> Shortcut >> %SystemRoot%\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll >> >> Icon >> %SystemRoot%\system32\hotplug.dll > > Thanks for the info. I would like to run the flush from the command line > prompt. Do you know if there is a command for that? > You can paste the shortcut into the command line and it just works.
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