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Guest Dave Candi
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Hi I wonder if anyone can help? Everytime I start my computer it runs

checkdisk, when it gets to 35% it hangs and stays there? I've run checkdisk

from the command line and the same story. The only way round this is to skip

disk checking on start up. I'm seriously worried about my hard disk as it

seems its on its way out. This is the second western digital hard drive thats

given me problems, the other was on my laptop. Can anyone recommend a

solution to this problem? Maybe some freeware disk checking and fixing

software? Should I buy a new drive incase this one goes completely? Thanks in

advance Dave

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Guest Malke
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Re: checkdisk Problem?

 

Dave Candi wrote:

> Hi I wonder if anyone can help? Everytime I start my computer it runs

> checkdisk, when it gets to 35% it hangs and stays there? I've run checkdisk

> from the command line and the same story. The only way round this is to skip

> disk checking on start up. I'm seriously worried about my hard disk as it

> seems its on its way out. This is the second western digital hard drive thats

> given me problems, the other was on my laptop. Can anyone recommend a

> solution to this problem? Maybe some freeware disk checking and fixing

> software? Should I buy a new drive incase this one goes completely? Thanks in

> advance Dave

 

Go to Western Digital's website and download their hard drive diagnostic

utility. You will make a bootable CD or floppy with the file you

download. Then boot with the media you created and do a thorough test.

If the test fails any physical tests (or won't finish), replace the hard

drive. Certainly you should back up your data now and be prepared to

replace the drive. If you do the diagnostic now, you'll know whether you

need to buy a new drive or not.

 

 

Malke

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Guest Plato
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Re: checkdisk Problem?

 

=?Utf-8?B?RGF2ZSBDYW5kaQ==?= wrote:

>

> Hi I wonder if anyone can help? Everytime I start my computer it runs

> checkdisk, when it gets to 35% it hangs and stays there? I've run checkdisk

> from the command line and the same story. The only way round this is to skip

> disk checking on start up. I'm seriously worried about my hard disk as it

> seems its on its way out. This is the second western digital hard drive thats

> given me problems, the other was on my laptop. Can anyone recommend a

> solution to this problem? Maybe some freeware disk checking and fixing

> software? Should I buy a new drive incase this one goes completely? Thanks in

> advance Dave

 

Your hard drive may be failing, or has some bad sectors that have not

been marked bad yet. See:

 

http://www.bootdisk.com/dostools.htm

HARDDRIVES

Western Digital

 

 

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Guest Dave Candi
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Re: checkdisk Problem?

 

Hi I ran the WD diagnostics and it found nothing wrong with the drive? I

can't defrag until chkdsk completes and chkdsk wont complete. I've tried all

manor of switchs /r/f/c/i? I think theres a corruption in the registry

probably caused by a virus. Can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner that

fixes errors, removes bad entries? Would it be wise after a backup to use a

router in future giving me NAT which would hide my ip address? Is anyone out

there using a router with this and having less virus/trojan detection? Im

using one care which was recommended by a reliable source but it seems my pc

is getting hit just as much as without any protection. I'm contempleting a

router with NAT and maybe even AVG/ Zone alarm next time around? Any thought?

 

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Guest Malke
Posted

Re: checkdisk Problem?

 

Dave Candi wrote:

> Hi I ran the WD diagnostics and it found nothing wrong with the drive? I

> can't defrag until chkdsk completes and chkdsk wont complete. I've tried all

> manor of switchs /r/f/c/i? I think theres a corruption in the registry

> probably caused by a virus. Can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner that

> fixes errors, removes bad entries? Would it be wise after a backup to use a

> router in future giving me NAT which would hide my ip address? Is anyone out

> there using a router with this and having less virus/trojan detection? Im

> using one care which was recommended by a reliable source but it seems my pc

> is getting hit just as much as without any protection. I'm contempleting a

> router with NAT and maybe even AVG/ Zone alarm next time around? Any thought?

>

> "

 

If the WD diagnostic shows nothing physically wrong with the drive, then

your file system has been damaged. Now that you've mentioned that you

had a virus (but of course we don't know which one), that could be the

reason. Many viruses and malware will damage the operating system.

 

1. Back up your data and do a Repair Install. Before you do the Repair

Install, make very sure that your computer is in fact completely

virus/malware-free:

 

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

 

Once you know the computer is clean:

 

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

 

2. If the Repair Install doesn't work, do a Clean Install:

 

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Reinstalling_Windows -

What you will need on-hand

 

As for your other questions, it is a good idea to use a router with a

broadband connection even if you only have one computer. It will not,

however, protect you from viruses or malware. The OneCare antivirus is

one of the worst in the industry. Recommended antivirus programs are

NOD32, Kaspersky, and Avast if you want free. The built-in Windows

Firewall is adequate for most people but Zone Alarm is often used.

 

The most important part of staying safe is practicing "Safe Hex". This

is entirely up to you because if you don't adhere to safe practices, no

antivirus/firewall will protect you.

 

Safe Hex:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=27971 - So How Did I Get

Infected Anyway?

http://www.getsafeonline.org/

http://wiki.castlecops.com/Malware_Removal_and_Prevention:_Introduction

http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm - The Parasite Fight

http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron/archive/2006/02/05/82584.aspx - MVP

Harry Waldron - The Family PC - How to stay safe on the Internet

http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm - Eric Howes on

Rogue Antispyware Programs

 

 

Malke

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Guest cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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Re: checkdisk Problem?

 

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:38:02 -0700, Dave Candi

>Hi I ran the WD diagnostics and it found nothing wrong with the drive?

 

Folks usually recommend HD vendor diagnostics, but they tend to wait

until the HD is dead, cold, and half buried before saying "hey, maybe

this HD isn't OK after all".

 

I've seen SMART showing multiple sectors that have already failed to

be "corrected", yet each attribute line was still "OK" and the summary

was also "OK". Folks often just do the "quick tes", which simply

gives the feel-good SMART summary and does no surface test at all.

>I can't defrag

 

Defrag involves reading and writing potentially every part of every

file on the HD. Does that sound like a good idea if the file system

and/or hard drive integrity is in doubt?

>until chkdsk completes and chkdsk wont complete. I've tried all

>manor of switchs /r/f/c/i?

 

ChkDsk is not a safe tool, and is certainly not a data recovery tool.

It's an OK tool after you've backed up everything and have nothing to

lose, and want to see how well it can "fix" things for giggles.

>I think theres a corruption in the registry probably caused by a virus.

 

What virus? Have you detected one, or are you speculating that

malware may be a factor here (as it well may)?

>Can anyone recommend a good registry cleaner that

>fixes errors, removes bad entries?

 

Folks will wave such things around, but really, you should rather know

what you're doing (or hire someone who does) than trusting these

auto-fixers. Else you just make it impossible to really fix things,

because all the sharp corners that could have pointed to the problem

have been rounded off.

>Would it be wise after a backup to use a router in future giving me

>NAT which would hide my ip address?

 

Yes. An always-on direct connection to the Internet is a Bad Idea.

Unlike most of what you've suggested so far, dropping in a NAT router

should NOT wait until you've done a backup ;-)

>Is anyone out there using a router with this and having less virus/trojan detection? Im

>using one care which was recommended by a reliable source but it seems my pc

>is getting hit just as much as without any protection. I'm contempleting a

>router with NAT and maybe even AVG/ Zone alarm next time around?

 

NOTHING will make you so bullet-proof (or even bullet-resistant) that

you can forget about learning how to avoid risk.

 

 

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