cross booting

July 24, 2007

I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

cross booting. Your suggestions please.

July 25, 2007

Re: cross booting

b11_ wrote:

> I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

> cross booting. Your suggestions please.

And what OS is "cross" that should boot on x86 hardware?

If you are relating to dual/tripple/quadrupple booting of different OS's

then MS is NOT a place to ask.

Try a Unix/Linux crowd.

HTH

Stanislaw

Slack user from Ulladulla.

July 25, 2007

Re: cross booting

b11_ wrote:

| I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining

| to cross booting. Your suggestions please.

I, TOO, was trying to guess what cross booting was. I was ashamed to

admit I didn't know! But, for dual or triple booting, (I don't do it,

but) I think I might recommend...

http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup

capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image to

HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions without

data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95.

For... what's that other thing... OS Emulation... best talk to Terhune

or glee or Brian A. But you will become irradiated, if you do it with

XP!

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

July 25, 2007

Re: cross booting

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

> cross booting. Your suggestions please.

You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual Booting"

If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get some

help here.

As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own partition...with

the oldest OS installed first.

July 26, 2007

Re: cross booting

Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an active

partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a different

drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts booting and

then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

_________________________________________________________

"philo" wrote:

>

> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>

> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual Booting"

>

> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get some

> help here.

>

> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own partition...with

> the oldest OS installed first.

>

July 26, 2007

Re: cross booting

There is no such thing as you're describing, not the term, not the activity.

It's not possible, at least not in normal situations. How do you know it

booted from drive 1 after starting on drive 2? (I presume drive 1 is where

the other Win98 system is located.)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AA62239E-2E28-48FA-ABD9-2804D510DCD4@microsoft.com...

> Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an

> active

> partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a different

> drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts booting

> and

> then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

> _________________________________________________________

> "philo" wrote:

>

>>

>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

>> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining

>> > to

>> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>>

>> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual

>> Booting"

>>

>> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get some

>> help here.

>>

>> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own

>> partition...with

>> the oldest OS installed first.

>>

July 26, 2007

Re: cross booting

Plenty of people multi-boot various MS OSes, using various boot managers.

Yes, if one contemplates using a 'nix OS then it would be good to ask around

for hints, but multi-booting itself is OS agnostic. You can get *plenty* of

good multi-booting advice from this group.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"Stanislaw Flatto" <compaid@brownbear.com.au> wrote in message

news:46a6f988@news.comindico.com.au...

> b11_ wrote:

>> I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

>> cross booting. Your suggestions please.

> And what OS is "cross" that should boot on x86 hardware?

> If you are relating to dual/tripple/quadrupple booting of different OS's

> then MS is NOT a place to ask.

> Try a Unix/Linux crowd.

>

> HTH

>

> Stanislaw

> Slack user from Ulladulla.

July 26, 2007

Re: cross booting

You sure Linux wasn't installed and you weren't "Cross-LFS-Network-Booting". I'm

sure you didn't have a Windows Based Server over an IP SAN and you were running a

"Cross Platform".

I think you may be mistaken but I can't judge, you saw what you saw and I didn't.

--

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Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

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"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AA62239E-2E28-48FA-ABD9-2804D510DCD4@microsoft.com...

> Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an active

> partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a different

> drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts booting and

> then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

> _________________________________________________________

> "philo" wrote:

>

>>

>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

>> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

>> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>>

>> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual Booting"

>>

>> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get some

>> help here.

>>

>> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own partition...with

>> the oldest OS installed first.

>>

July 27, 2007

Re: cross booting

Note that if you are not talking generic Windows machines, then the process

you describe is fairly common. For instance, in embedded systems it's not

unusual for the boot process to load a partition image into memory and then

boot from that image instead of the disk (or ROM device more usually) from

which the boot code was loaded.

Here's an example:

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6996706-description.html

The only circumstance I can think of where the hard drive boot process gets

restarted with a standard PC is with some drive overlay software. The first

part of the boot loads a BIOS replacement which then takes over the boot

process. In order to do this successfully the overlay software needs to

look as much as possible like the original BIOS boot code, and to do this it

effectively restarts the boot from scratch once it gets loaded. So if drive

2 has this sort of BIOS overlay software installed, but it was not expecting

to get started from drive 2, and it didn't understand about BIOS settings

that re-assigned the drive order (or, it replaced the code that responded to

those settings), then I guess what you are describing is a possibility.

It's a bit like the process that occurs when you want to boot a system with

drive overlay software installed from floppy - you can actually interrupt it

in the time between loading the overlay and loading the OS, and tell it to

load the OS from the floppy.

--

Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AA62239E-2E28-48FA-ABD9-2804D510DCD4@microsoft.com...

> Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an

> active

> partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a different

> drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts booting

> and

> then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

> _________________________________________________________

> "philo" wrote:

>

>>

>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

>> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining

>> > to

>> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>>

>> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual

>> Booting"

>>

>> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get some

>> help here.

>>

>> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own

>> partition...with

>> the oldest OS installed first.

>>

July 27, 2007

Re: cross booting

Still, this does not match the description given. Yes, a boot can be

interrupted and another OS booted, but the second OS doesn't "finish" the

booting process, it's an entirely new process.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

news:eo7ZfSE0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Note that if you are not talking generic Windows machines, then the

> process you describe is fairly common. For instance, in embedded systems

> it's not unusual for the boot process to load a partition image into

> memory and then boot from that image instead of the disk (or ROM device

> more usually) from which the boot code was loaded.

>

> Here's an example:

> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6996706-description.html

>

> The only circumstance I can think of where the hard drive boot process

> gets restarted with a standard PC is with some drive overlay software.

> The first part of the boot loads a BIOS replacement which then takes over

> the boot process. In order to do this successfully the overlay software

> needs to look as much as possible like the original BIOS boot code, and to

> do this it effectively restarts the boot from scratch once it gets loaded.

> So if drive 2 has this sort of BIOS overlay software installed, but it was

> not expecting to get started from drive 2, and it didn't understand about

> BIOS settings that re-assigned the drive order (or, it replaced the code

> that responded to those settings), then I guess what you are describing is

> a possibility.

>

> It's a bit like the process that occurs when you want to boot a system

> with drive overlay software installed from floppy - you can actually

> interrupt it in the time between loading the overlay and loading the OS,

> and tell it to load the OS from the floppy.

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:AA62239E-2E28-48FA-ABD9-2804D510DCD4@microsoft.com...

>> Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an

>> active

>> partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a different

>> drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts booting

>> and

>> then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> "philo" wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

>>> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining

>>> > to

>>> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>>>

>>> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual

>>> Booting"

>>>

>>> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get

>>> some

>>> help here.

>>>

>>> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own

>>> partition...with

>>> the oldest OS installed first.

>>>

>

July 28, 2007

Re: cross booting

If you move outside the PC world it is quite common for one OS to start the

boot process and another OS to finish it.

The minicomputers I used to work with had a microprocessor-based I/O

controller. The boot process started with a boot to an embedded OS (which

was actually the previous generation 16-bit OS) running on this

microprocessor. This OS started the basic I/O procedures (including disk)

and then loaded and started the 32-bit OS on the main CPU. The original boot

OS then reverted to its job of managing I/O while the OS running on the CPU

started the CLI and all the higher level services. Both OSes were then

running simultaneously. It was possible to stop the boot process after the

16-bit OS was running and perform tasks such as diagnostics or upgrades to

the 32-bit OS. At that point it was a standard dual-ground single-user

16-bit OS with its own CLI and access to most of the I/O. Then, when

diagnostics or whatever are finished, the operator would issue a CLI command

to boot the 32-bit OS, using the I/O services provided by the 16-bit OS.

That might not be quite what OP was referring to, but I would certainly call

it starting the boot with one OS and finishing the boot with a different OS.

--

Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"Gary S. Terhune" <nobody@nowhere.not> wrote in message

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> Still, this does not match the description given. Yes, a boot can be

> interrupted and another OS booted, but the second OS doesn't "finish" the

> booting process, it's an entirely new process.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

> news:eo7ZfSE0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Note that if you are not talking generic Windows machines, then the

>> process you describe is fairly common. For instance, in embedded systems

>> it's not unusual for the boot process to load a partition image into

>> memory and then boot from that image instead of the disk (or ROM device

>> more usually) from which the boot code was loaded.

>>

>> Here's an example:

>> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6996706-description.html

>>

>> The only circumstance I can think of where the hard drive boot process

>> gets restarted with a standard PC is with some drive overlay software.

>> The first part of the boot loads a BIOS replacement which then takes over

>> the boot process. In order to do this successfully the overlay software

>> needs to look as much as possible like the original BIOS boot code, and

>> to do this it effectively restarts the boot from scratch once it gets

>> loaded. So if drive 2 has this sort of BIOS overlay software installed,

>> but it was not expecting to get started from drive 2, and it didn't

>> understand about BIOS settings that re-assigned the drive order (or, it

>> replaced the code that responded to those settings), then I guess what

>> you are describing is a possibility.

>>

>> It's a bit like the process that occurs when you want to boot a system

>> with drive overlay software installed from floppy - you can actually

>> interrupt it in the time between loading the overlay and loading the OS,

>> and tell it to load the OS from the floppy.

>> --

>> Jeff Richards

>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:AA62239E-2E28-48FA-ABD9-2804D510DCD4@microsoft.com...

>>> Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an

>>> active

>>> partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a

>>> different

>>> drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts booting

>>> and

>>> then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

>>> _________________________________________________________

>>> "philo" wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

>>>> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining

>>>> > to

>>>> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>>>>

>>>> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual

>>>> Booting"

>>>>

>>>> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get

>>>> some

>>>> help here.

>>>>

>>>> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own

>>>> partition...with

>>>> the oldest OS installed first.

>>>>

>>

>

July 28, 2007

Re: cross booting

Sounds a *bit* like how Win3.1, 95 and 98 load, with MSDOS as the first OS.

Except DOS doesn't stay resident (does it?)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

news:uupF94K0HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> If you move outside the PC world it is quite common for one OS to start

> the boot process and another OS to finish it.

>

> The minicomputers I used to work with had a microprocessor-based I/O

> controller. The boot process started with a boot to an embedded OS (which

> was actually the previous generation 16-bit OS) running on this

> microprocessor. This OS started the basic I/O procedures (including disk)

> and then loaded and started the 32-bit OS on the main CPU. The original

> boot OS then reverted to its job of managing I/O while the OS running on

> the CPU started the CLI and all the higher level services. Both OSes

> were then running simultaneously. It was possible to stop the boot

> process after the 16-bit OS was running and perform tasks such as

> diagnostics or upgrades to the 32-bit OS. At that point it was a standard

> dual-ground single-user 16-bit OS with its own CLI and access to most of

> the I/O. Then, when diagnostics or whatever are finished, the operator

> would issue a CLI command to boot the 32-bit OS, using the I/O services

> provided by the 16-bit OS.

>

> That might not be quite what OP was referring to, but I would certainly

> call it starting the boot with one OS and finishing the boot with a

> different OS.

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <nobody@nowhere.not> wrote in message

> news:%23gek5aG0HHA.5800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Still, this does not match the description given. Yes, a boot can be

>> interrupted and another OS booted, but the second OS doesn't "finish" the

>> booting process, it's an entirely new process.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

>> news:eo7ZfSE0HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Note that if you are not talking generic Windows machines, then the

>>> process you describe is fairly common. For instance, in embedded systems

>>> it's not unusual for the boot process to load a partition image into

>>> memory and then boot from that image instead of the disk (or ROM device

>>> more usually) from which the boot code was loaded.

>>>

>>> Here's an example:

>>> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6996706-description.html

>>>

>>> The only circumstance I can think of where the hard drive boot process

>>> gets restarted with a standard PC is with some drive overlay software.

>>> The first part of the boot loads a BIOS replacement which then takes

>>> over the boot process. In order to do this successfully the overlay

>>> software needs to look as much as possible like the original BIOS boot

>>> code, and to do this it effectively restarts the boot from scratch once

>>> it gets loaded. So if drive 2 has this sort of BIOS overlay software

>>> installed, but it was not expecting to get started from drive 2, and it

>>> didn't understand about BIOS settings that re-assigned the drive order

>>> (or, it replaced the code that responded to those settings), then I

>>> guess what you are describing is a possibility.

>>>

>>> It's a bit like the process that occurs when you want to boot a system

>>> with drive overlay software installed from floppy - you can actually

>>> interrupt it in the time between loading the overlay and loading the OS,

>>> and tell it to load the OS from the floppy.

>>> --

>>> Jeff Richards

>>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

>>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:AA62239E-2E28-48FA-ABD9-2804D510DCD4@microsoft.com...

>>>> Sometime ago, I entered BIOS and selected drive 2, which has W98 on an

>>>> active

>>>> partition, to boot. Well 2 started to boot but then I noticed a

>>>> different

>>>> drive, which has W98, booting. I beieve that when a drive starts

>>>> booting and

>>>> then another drive finishes booting then that is called cross booting.

>>>> _________________________________________________________

>>>> "philo" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:D42BD8D1-1D06-4808-9373-167B61FB2F82@microsoft.com...

>>>>> > I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article

>>>>> > pertaining to

>>>>> > cross booting. Your suggestions please.

>>>>>

>>>>> You will get plenty of results on Google if you use the term "Dual

>>>>> Booting"

>>>>>

>>>>> If you want to mention which OS's you want to run...you can also get

>>>>> some

>>>>> help here.

>>>>>

>>>>> As a general rule however... each OS should be on it's own

>>>>> partition...with

>>>>> the oldest OS installed first.

>>>>>

>>>

>>

>

August 1, 2007

Re: cross booting

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:58:01 -0700, b11_

>I check the Microsoft website but can not find any article pertaining to

>cross booting. Your suggestions please.

Define( cross booting )

Do you mean...

- booting from one OS to another on the same PC

- booting one OS within another on the same PC

- booting one device from another on the PC

- hit keys to make the &%$ thing boot faster

....?

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