Terminal Services and Windows Datacenter Server 2003

[Guest jim]

I would like to host an application (combination of TS and Citrix) on a

machine with 32 CPU's and 128GB of Physical RAM using Windows Data Center

2003., I know I have to use SPLA for TS Licensing, but now I'm being told I

cannot use Datacenter because it is for anonymous not authenticated access.

How than, do I scale to 32 processors and 128GB of RAM ?

Can I get some Datacenter Licensing clarity here please ?

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Terminal Services and Windows Datacenter Server 2003

 

Typically organizations don't use something this big because of the

scaling issues. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this?

What happens if the single point of failure goes down? How many users

are you expecting to get on the system? 32 or 64 bit?

 

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

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jim wrote:

> I would like to host an application (combination of TS and Citrix) on a

> machine with 32 CPU's and 128GB of Physical RAM using Windows Data Center

> 2003., I know I have to use SPLA for TS Licensing, but now I'm being told I

> cannot use Datacenter because it is for anonymous not authenticated access.

> How than, do I scale to 32 processors and 128GB of RAM ?

> Can I get some Datacenter Licensing clarity here please ?

[Guest jim]

Re: Terminal Services and Windows Datacenter Server 2003

 

Jeff -

 

There will be two 32 way IBM 3950s in a cluster. Total named users = 4000

Total Concurrent Users = 1600

Would prefer to user 64 bit because our application is optimized for it.

 

Jim Hammar

Global IT Manager

Intec Billing

 

 

"Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

> Typically organizations don't use something this big because of the

> scaling issues. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this?

> What happens if the single point of failure goes down? How many users

> are you expecting to get on the system? 32 or 64 bit?

>

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> Citrix Technology Professional

> Provision Networks VIP

>

> Forums not enough?

> Get support from the experts at your business

> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com

>

> jim wrote:

> > I would like to host an application (combination of TS and Citrix) on a

> > machine with 32 CPU's and 128GB of Physical RAM using Windows Data Center

> > 2003., I know I have to use SPLA for TS Licensing, but now I'm being told I

> > cannot use Datacenter because it is for anonymous not authenticated access.

> > How than, do I scale to 32 processors and 128GB of RAM ?

> > Can I get some Datacenter Licensing clarity here please ?

>

[Guest Jeff Pitsch]

Re: Terminal Services and Windows Datacenter Server 2003

 

TS is not cluster aware. I'm not sure on the licensing but that would

be a question to take to MS licensing or your software provider who

should be able to bring MS in.

 

Jeff Pitsch

Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

Citrix Technology Professional

Provision Networks VIP

 

Forums not enough?

Get support from the experts at your business

http://jeffpitschconsulting.com

 

jim wrote:

> Jeff -

>

> There will be two 32 way IBM 3950s in a cluster. Total named users = 4000

> Total Concurrent Users = 1600

> Would prefer to user 64 bit because our application is optimized for it.

>

> Jim Hammar

> Global IT Manager

> Intec Billing

>

>

> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>

>> Typically organizations don't use something this big because of the

>> scaling issues. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this?

>> What happens if the single point of failure goes down? How many users

>> are you expecting to get on the system? 32 or 64 bit?

>>

>> Jeff Pitsch

>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> Citrix Technology Professional

>> Provision Networks VIP

>>

>> Forums not enough?

>> Get support from the experts at your business

>> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com

>>

>> jim wrote:

>>> I would like to host an application (combination of TS and Citrix) on a

>>> machine with 32 CPU's and 128GB of Physical RAM using Windows Data Center

>>> 2003., I know I have to use SPLA for TS Licensing, but now I'm being told I

>>> cannot use Datacenter because it is for anonymous not authenticated access.

>>> How than, do I scale to 32 processors and 128GB of RAM ?

>>> Can I get some Datacenter Licensing clarity here please ?

[Guest Cláudio Rodrigues [MVP]]

Re: Terminal Services and Windows Datacenter Server 2003

 

Jeff Pitsch wrote:

> TS is not cluster aware. I'm not sure on the licensing but that would

> be a question to take to MS licensing or your software provider who

> should be able to bring MS in.

>

> Jeff Pitsch

> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> Citrix Technology Professional

> Provision Networks VIP

>

> Forums not enough?

> Get support from the experts at your business

> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com

>

> jim wrote:

>> Jeff -

>> There will be two 32 way IBM 3950s in a cluster. Total named users =

>> 4000 Total Concurrent Users = 1600

>> Would prefer to user 64 bit because our application is optimized for it.

>>

>> Jim Hammar

>> Global IT Manager

>> Intec Billing

>>

>>

>> "Jeff Pitsch" wrote:

>>

>>> Typically organizations don't use something this big because of the

>>> scaling issues. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this?

>>> What happens if the single point of failure goes down? How many

>>> users are you expecting to get on the system? 32 or 64 bit?

>>>

>>> Jeff Pitsch

>>> Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>>> Citrix Technology Professional

>>> Provision Networks VIP

>>>

>>> Forums not enough?

>>> Get support from the experts at your business

>>> http://jeffpitschconsulting.com

>>>

>>> jim wrote:

>>>> I would like to host an application (combination of TS and Citrix)

>>>> on a machine with 32 CPU's and 128GB of Physical RAM using Windows

>>>> Data Center 2003., I know I have to use SPLA for TS Licensing, but

>>>> now I'm being told I cannot use Datacenter because it is for

>>>> anonymous not authenticated access. How than, do I scale to 32

>>>> processors and 128GB of RAM ?

>>>> Can I get some Datacenter Licensing clarity here please ?

Plus this is a VERY bad idea, to load that many users in a single box...

I am currently working on a 50,000 concurrent deployment and I can tell

you upfront this is NOT the way to go at all.

 

--

Cláudio Rodrigues

CEO, TSFactory Inc.

 

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Terminal Services

http://www.tsfactory.com