Running app over Internet with TS

[Guest Markus]

I would like to use Terminal Services (TS) to allow users to run an MS Access

application over the Internet from their Internet browser, if possible. If

not, then can TS provide me with an option to run the app over the Internet

in some other way?

 

I need some beginner help on how I can set up and test my app to be used in

this way before I offer it to my clients. E.G., I have an Apache Web server

running under Windows XP Home, will I need to upgrade to XP Pro to use

Terminal Services? Can Terminal Services provide a solution that can have

users run my app in their browser, or will each remote user be required to

have Terminal Services and XP Pro on their machine to connect? What will I

need to set up to fully test this internet option for running my app?

 

Any and all help very much appreciated,

Mark

[Guest Helge Klein]

Re: Running app over Internet with TS

 

Markus,

 

I think you misunderstood how Terminal Services work - simply put,

they redirect the server computer's screen to the client computer.

This has nothing to do with the web or browsers.

 

To use Terminal Services, you need a Windows Server OS, TS licenses

(called TS CALs) and a licensing server or service. At the most basic

level you need one dedicated server. That server could host (depending

on the hardware) probably 40-50 different user sessions. Each session

corresponds to one user seeing the server's desktop and being able to

use the server's programs.

 

If I understood you correctly you are looking for a way to make your

MS Access application accessible over the internet. Terminal Services

are probably not the best way to do that. Unfortunately the only way I

can think of is to rewrite your app in such a way that it works as a

Web Application that can be hosted by a Web Server (along with a DB).

 

I hope this clears things up.

 

Helge

 

On 26 Jul., 17:02, Markus <Mar...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I would like to use Terminal Services (TS) to allow users to run an MS Access

> application over the Internet from their Internet browser, if possible. If

> not, then can TS provide me with an option to run the app over the Internet

> in some other way?

>

> I need some beginner help on how I can set up and test my app to be used in

> this way before I offer it to my clients. E.G., I have an Apache Web server

> running under Windows XP Home, will I need to upgrade to XP Pro to use

> Terminal Services? Can Terminal Services provide a solution that can have

> users run my app in their browser, or will each remote user be required to

> have Terminal Services and XP Pro on their machine to connect? What will I

> need to set up to fully test this internet option for running my app?

>

> Any and all help very much appreciated,

> Mark

[Guest Markus]

Re: Running app over Internet with TS

 

Helge,

 

Thanks. I thought TS was used routinely to run windows apps remotely in a

multiuser mode, including Access apps. In fact, I found a couple articles

that praised the speed of these apps running over the Internet using TS on a

win2003 server connecting to TS using the cliient Remote Desktop Protocol (

up to 40 or 50 users).

 

I understood your first paragraph, but am now confused re the second

recommendation that TS cannot be used for this purpose.

 

Mark

 

"Helge Klein" wrote:

> Markus,

>

> I think you misunderstood how Terminal Services work - simply put,

> they redirect the server computer's screen to the client computer.

> This has nothing to do with the web or browsers.

>

> To use Terminal Services, you need a Windows Server OS, TS licenses

> (called TS CALs) and a licensing server or service. At the most basic

> level you need one dedicated server. That server could host (depending

> on the hardware) probably 40-50 different user sessions. Each session

> corresponds to one user seeing the server's desktop and being able to

> use the server's programs.

>

> If I understood you correctly you are looking for a way to make your

> MS Access application accessible over the internet. Terminal Services

> are probably not the best way to do that. Unfortunately the only way I

> can think of is to rewrite your app in such a way that it works as a

> Web Application that can be hosted by a Web Server (along with a DB).

>

> I hope this clears things up.

>

> Helge

>

> On 26 Jul., 17:02, Markus <Mar...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> > I would like to use Terminal Services (TS) to allow users to run an MS Access

> > application over the Internet from their Internet browser, if possible. If

> > not, then can TS provide me with an option to run the app over the Internet

> > in some other way?

> >

> > I need some beginner help on how I can set up and test my app to be used in

> > this way before I offer it to my clients. E.G., I have an Apache Web server

> > running under Windows XP Home, will I need to upgrade to XP Pro to use

> > Terminal Services? Can Terminal Services provide a solution that can have

> > users run my app in their browser, or will each remote user be required to

> > have Terminal Services and XP Pro on their machine to connect? What will I

> > need to set up to fully test this internet option for running my app?

> >

> > Any and all help very much appreciated,

> > Mark

>

>

>

[Guest TP]

Re: Running app over Internet with TS

 

Hi Mark,

 

TS works very well for running an Access app over the Internet.

Depending on your app and how the end users use it you may be

able to support several times more than 40-50 users on modern

server hardware.

 

If you want you can have your users launch the remote desktop

client through a web page or directly via their start menu. If you

choose the web option they must use Internet Explorer and have

the ability to install the remote desktop activex.

 

-TP

 

Markus wrote:

> Helge,

>

> Thanks. I thought TS was used routinely to run windows apps remotely

> in a multiuser mode, including Access apps. In fact, I found a

> couple articles that praised the speed of these apps running over the

> Internet using TS on a win2003 server connecting to TS using the

> cliient Remote Desktop Protocol ( up to 40 or 50 users).

>

> I understood your first paragraph, but am now confused re the second

> recommendation that TS cannot be used for this purpose.

>

> Mark

[Guest Jeff]

Re: Running app over Internet with TS

 

You are right, but he mentioned wanting to know if his XP Home laptop could

host this for users. If he had the proper servers(s) and licenses he could,

but not with his current situation.

 

"TP" wrote:

> Hi Mark,

>

> TS works very well for running an Access app over the Internet.

> Depending on your app and how the end users use it you may be

> able to support several times more than 40-50 users on modern

> server hardware.

>

> If you want you can have your users launch the remote desktop

> client through a web page or directly via their start menu. If you

> choose the web option they must use Internet Explorer and have

> the ability to install the remote desktop activex.

>

> -TP

>

> Markus wrote:

> > Helge,

> >

> > Thanks. I thought TS was used routinely to run windows apps remotely

> > in a multiuser mode, including Access apps. In fact, I found a

> > couple articles that praised the speed of these apps running over the

> > Internet using TS on a win2003 server connecting to TS using the

> > cliient Remote Desktop Protocol ( up to 40 or 50 users).

> >

> > I understood your first paragraph, but am now confused re the second

> > recommendation that TS cannot be used for this purpose.

> >

> > Mark

>

[Guest TP]

Re: Running app over Internet with TS

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for reiterating that point. Helge already mentioned

the need for proper software and licenses so I left that out

of my response. I thought that Mark understood Helge's

point regarding 2003 and licenses but was questioning

the statement regarding TS not being the best way to do it.

 

-TP

 

Jeff wrote:

> You are right, but he mentioned wanting to know if his XP Home laptop

> could host this for users. If he had the proper servers(s) and

> licenses he could, but not with his current situation.

>