Guest Umma Gumma Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 By using PE Builder I have created an installation CD of my OEM factory installed HP Windows XP Home Operating System. As a test case I installed it to a VMware Workstation 6 virtual machine. I wanted to be sure the install would work. I accessed a piece of freeware off the internet to find out my CD key. Using that I installed it to the virtual machine. Now the installation keeps requesting an activation and tells me I have 30 days. Presumably this means that within 30 days of installation the Operating System will die. How can I now use my OEM license to activate this installation? I mean after all, I am the legitimate owner of this copy of Windows XP Home. Thanks.
Guest Maincat Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "Umma Gumma" <Itstotallyinvalid@invalid.ca> wrote in message news:ObSnBjhzHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > By using PE Builder I have created an installation CD of my OEM factory > installed HP Windows XP Home Operating System. As a test case I installed > it to a VMware Workstation 6 virtual machine. I wanted to be sure the > install would work. I accessed a piece of freeware off the internet to > find out my CD key. Using that I installed it to the virtual machine. Now > the installation keeps requesting an activation and tells me I have 30 > days. Presumably this means that within 30 days of installation the > Operating System will die. > > How can I now use my OEM license to activate this installation? > > I mean after all, I am the legitimate owner of this copy of Windows XP > Home. Thanks. > > As I understand it, one copy, one license, one install. Read the EULA.
Guest Maincat Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "Umma Gumma" <Itstotallyinvalid@invalid.ca> wrote in message news:ObSnBjhzHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > By using PE Builder I have created an installation CD of my OEM factory > installed HP Windows XP Home Operating System. As a test case I installed > it to a VMware Workstation 6 virtual machine. I wanted to be sure the > install would work. I accessed a piece of freeware off the internet to > find out my CD key. Using that I installed it to the virtual machine. Now > the installation keeps requesting an activation and tells me I have 30 > days. Presumably this means that within 30 days of installation the > Operating System will die. > > How can I now use my OEM license to activate this installation? > > I mean after all, I am the legitimate owner of this copy of Windows XP > Home. Thanks. > > More than that, you are the owner of a license to use the software as per the EULA. You are not the owner of the software itself.
Guest Dave B. Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? You cannot, per the OEM license, use your product key on any PC other than the one it shipped with, and a Virtual Machine qualifies as another PC. You will need to purchase another license to use a VM. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Umma Gumma" <Itstotallyinvalid@invalid.ca> wrote in message news:ObSnBjhzHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > By using PE Builder I have created an installation CD of my OEM factory > installed HP Windows XP Home Operating System. As a test case I installed > it to a VMware Workstation 6 virtual machine. I wanted to be sure the > install would work. I accessed a piece of freeware off the internet to > find out my CD key. Using that I installed it to the virtual machine. Now > the installation keeps requesting an activation and tells me I have 30 > days. Presumably this means that within 30 days of installation the > Operating System will die. > > How can I now use my OEM license to activate this installation? > > I mean after all, I am the legitimate owner of this copy of Windows XP > Home. Thanks. > >
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? As others have told you you cannot activate this version on a different machine and my understanding was that you were only testing it to see if it did work, which it obviously does so I would have thought the sensible thing now would be to uninstall it. Joan Umma Gumma wrote: > By using PE Builder I have created an installation CD of my OEM > factory installed HP Windows XP Home Operating System. As a test case > I installed it to a VMware Workstation 6 virtual machine. I wanted to > be sure the install would work. I accessed a piece of freeware off > the internet to find out my CD key. Using that I installed it to the > virtual machine. Now the installation keeps requesting an activation > and tells me I have 30 days. Presumably this means that within 30 > days of installation the Operating System will die. > > How can I now use my OEM license to activate this installation? > > I mean after all, I am the legitimate owner of this copy of Windows > XP Home. Thanks.
Guest Rock Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "Umma Gumma" <Itstotallyinvalid@invalid.ca> wrote > By using PE Builder I have created an installation CD of my OEM factory > installed HP Windows XP Home Operating System. As a test case I installed > it to a VMware Workstation 6 virtual machine. I wanted to be sure the > install would work. I accessed a piece of freeware off the internet to > find out my CD key. Using that I installed it to the virtual machine. Now > the installation keeps requesting an activation and tells me I have 30 > days. Presumably this means that within 30 days of installation the > Operating System will die. > > How can I now use my OEM license to activate this installation? > > I mean after all, I am the legitimate owner of this copy of Windows XP > Home. A pre-installed OEM version of the OS is licensed for use only on the computer on which it came installed. It cannot be transferred to a different computer including use in a VM. If you want transferability you need to use a retail license. Even with that only one copy of the license can be installed at any one time. A VM session counts as a separate installation. -- Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
Guest Umma Gumma Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:OP5ZpHjzHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > As others have told you you cannot activate this version on a different > machine and my understanding was that you were only testing it to see if > it did work, which it obviously does so I would have thought the sensible > thing now would be to uninstall it. > Joan Well it does...and it doesn't. It requires activation. So presumably that means if I use it to install on the primary machine (the host machine in this case) it will still require activation, ergo...won't work. That's as I understand it. Am I wrong? To put everyone's mind to rest, I HAVE UNINSTALLED IT. Right now I feel like I've made a coaster.....
Guest sgopus Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, as it would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you expected it to be already activated, then you are mistaken. "Umma Gumma" wrote: > "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:OP5ZpHjzHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > As others have told you you cannot activate this version on a different > > machine and my understanding was that you were only testing it to see if > > it did work, which it obviously does so I would have thought the sensible > > thing now would be to uninstall it. > > Joan > > Well it does...and it doesn't. It requires activation. So presumably that > means if I use it to install on the primary machine (the host machine in > this case) it will still require activation, ergo...won't work. That's as I > understand it. Am I wrong? > > To put everyone's mind to rest, I HAVE UNINSTALLED IT. Right now I feel like > I've made a coaster..... > > >
Guest Umma Gumma Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:17488242-C5CD-4C21-9553-41BEFFE4E18B@microsoft.com... > And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, as > it > would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you expected > it > to be already activated, then you are mistaken. Yes but if I used it for my primary install rather than going through the 8 CDs HP's disk creation utility created for me how would I activate it?
Guest Bob I Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? Umma Gumma wrote: > "sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:17488242-C5CD-4C21-9553-41BEFFE4E18B@microsoft.com... > >>And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, as >>it >>would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you expected >>it >>to be already activated, then you are mistaken. > > > Yes but if I used it for my primary install rather than going through the 8 > CDs HP's disk creation utility created for me how would I activate it? > > The correct "key" should be on a sticker on the case. THAT is required of OEMs by Microsoft to be in compliance with the license agreement.
Guest Umma Gumma Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eqgOY6rzHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > Umma Gumma wrote: > >> "sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:17488242-C5CD-4C21-9553-41BEFFE4E18B@microsoft.com... >> >>>And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, >>>as it >>>would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you >>>expected it >>>to be already activated, then you are mistaken. >> >> >> Yes but if I used it for my primary install rather than going through the >> 8 CDs HP's disk creation utility created for me how would I activate it? > > The correct "key" should be on a sticker on the case. THAT is required of > OEMs by Microsoft to be in compliance with the license agreement. I got no disk. I had to create 8 of them myself with a utility HP supplied to burn the CDs. The system was imbedded in the computer and activated when I first booted it up. It must be big. There are a lot of freebees included and a lot of spam. Once you install the "system" you have to do a lot of deleting. Some of it Spybot Search and Destroy objected to. I got a "key" of sorts from a utility I found on the web that grabs that information from the operating system. Once I'd used UBCD for Windows and PEBuilder to create one single CD with Windows drivers and SP2 included, I installed into a virtual machine to test the installation. The CD accepted the key I had obtained using the utility. But the system still needs to be validated with Microsoft. My point is....if I can't validate this CD with Microsoft then I have to resort to all those 8 CDs for an install. It takes half a day! When it should only be ONE CD. So, the long and short of it is I don't have a case and I don't have a sticker on the case....
Guest Bob I Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? Umma Gumma wrote: > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:eqgOY6rzHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> >>Umma Gumma wrote: >> >> >>>"sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>news:17488242-C5CD-4C21-9553-41BEFFE4E18B@microsoft.com... >>> >>> >>>>And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, >>>>as it >>>>would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you >>>>expected it >>>>to be already activated, then you are mistaken. >>> >>> >>>Yes but if I used it for my primary install rather than going through the >>>8 CDs HP's disk creation utility created for me how would I activate it? >> >>The correct "key" should be on a sticker on the case. THAT is required of >>OEMs by Microsoft to be in compliance with the license agreement. > > > I got no disk. I had to create 8 of them myself with a utility HP supplied > to burn the CDs. The system was imbedded in the computer and activated when > I first booted it up. It must be big. There are a lot of freebees included > and a lot of spam. Once you install the "system" you have to do a lot of > deleting. Some of it Spybot Search and Destroy objected to. I got a "key" of > sorts from a utility I found on the web that grabs that information from the > operating system. Once I'd used UBCD for Windows and PEBuilder to create one > single CD with Windows drivers and SP2 included, I installed into a virtual > machine to test the installation. The CD accepted the key I had obtained > using the utility. But the system still needs to be validated with > Microsoft. My point is....if I can't validate this CD with Microsoft then I > have to resort to all those 8 CDs for an install. It takes half a day! When > it should only be ONE CD. So, the long and short of it is I don't have a > case and I don't have a sticker on the case.... > > The computer case. On desktop the side, top or back. Laptop, typically the bottom. The key you scraped from the install was likely the factory image nuber and wouldn't work for you. As an aside the "virtual install" isn't likely to fly.
Guest Umma Gumma Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:uIJ21S5zHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > Umma Gumma wrote: > >> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:eqgOY6rzHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >>> >>>Umma Gumma wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>news:17488242-C5CD-4C21-9553-41BEFFE4E18B@microsoft.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, >>>>>as it >>>>>would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you >>>>>expected it >>>>>to be already activated, then you are mistaken. >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes but if I used it for my primary install rather than going through >>>>the 8 CDs HP's disk creation utility created for me how would I activate >>>>it? >>> >>>The correct "key" should be on a sticker on the case. THAT is required of >>>OEMs by Microsoft to be in compliance with the license agreement. >> >> >> I got no disk. I had to create 8 of them myself with a utility HP >> supplied to burn the CDs. The system was imbedded in the computer and >> activated when I first booted it up. It must be big. There are a lot of >> freebees included and a lot of spam. Once you install the "system" you >> have to do a lot of deleting. Some of it Spybot Search and Destroy >> objected to. I got a "key" of sorts from a utility I found on the web >> that grabs that information from the operating system. Once I'd used UBCD >> for Windows and PEBuilder to create one single CD with Windows drivers >> and SP2 included, I installed into a virtual machine to test the >> installation. The CD accepted the key I had obtained using the utility. >> But the system still needs to be validated with Microsoft. My point >> is....if I can't validate this CD with Microsoft then I have to resort to >> all those 8 CDs for an install. It takes half a day! When it should only >> be ONE CD. So, the long and short of it is I don't have a case and I >> don't have a sticker on the case.... > > The computer case. On desktop the side, top or back. Laptop, typically the > bottom. The key you scraped from the install was likely the factory image > nuber and wouldn't work for you. As an aside the "virtual install" isn't > likely to fly. Oh hey! I'll take a look. Thank you! I never thought of that!
Guest Bob I Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? Umma Gumma wrote: > "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uIJ21S5zHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> >>Umma Gumma wrote: >> >> >>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:eqgOY6rzHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>>>Umma Gumma wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>"sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:17488242-C5CD-4C21-9553-41BEFFE4E18B@microsoft.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>And by the way, it did work, the copy booted, it just needs activation, >>>>>>as it >>>>>>would when you restored the image to your orginal machine, if you >>>>>>expected it >>>>>>to be already activated, then you are mistaken. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yes but if I used it for my primary install rather than going through >>>>>the 8 CDs HP's disk creation utility created for me how would I activate >>>>>it? >>>> >>>>The correct "key" should be on a sticker on the case. THAT is required of >>>>OEMs by Microsoft to be in compliance with the license agreement. >>> >>> >>>I got no disk. I had to create 8 of them myself with a utility HP >>>supplied to burn the CDs. The system was imbedded in the computer and >>>activated when I first booted it up. It must be big. There are a lot of >>>freebees included and a lot of spam. Once you install the "system" you >>>have to do a lot of deleting. Some of it Spybot Search and Destroy >>>objected to. I got a "key" of sorts from a utility I found on the web >>>that grabs that information from the operating system. Once I'd used UBCD >>>for Windows and PEBuilder to create one single CD with Windows drivers >>>and SP2 included, I installed into a virtual machine to test the >>>installation. The CD accepted the key I had obtained using the utility. >>>But the system still needs to be validated with Microsoft. My point >>>is....if I can't validate this CD with Microsoft then I have to resort to >>>all those 8 CDs for an install. It takes half a day! When it should only >>>be ONE CD. So, the long and short of it is I don't have a case and I >>>don't have a sticker on the case.... >> >>The computer case. On desktop the side, top or back. Laptop, typically the >>bottom. The key you scraped from the install was likely the factory image >>nuber and wouldn't work for you. As an aside the "virtual install" isn't >>likely to fly. > > > Oh hey! I'll take a look. Thank you! I never thought of that! > > You're welcome, have a good day!
Guest C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: Where do I get an Activation Key for Windows XP Home SP2? Umma Gumma wrote: > "Joan Archer" <archer_joan@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message > news:OP5ZpHjzHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> As others have told you you cannot activate this version on a different >> machine and my understanding was that you were only testing it to see if >> it did work, which it obviously does so I would have thought the sensible >> thing now would be to uninstall it. >> Joan >> > > Well it does...and it doesn't. It requires activation. So presumably that > means if I use it to install on the primary machine (the host machine in > this case) it will still require activation, ergo...won't work. That's as I > understand it. Am I wrong? > > To put everyone's mind to rest, I HAVE UNINSTALLED IT. Right now I feel like > I've made a coaster..... > You didn't make a coaster. What you need to understand is that the VM is a totally 'different' machine. Meaning that it is identifying itself differently to Windows then your hardware machine. I have an HP dv8100cto, and when I install my system disk on it, it doesn't even require activation. The license is tied to the BIOS of my computer. If I turn around and install that same disk in either Microsoft VPC2007 or VMPlayer, it wants to be activated. VMs have a BIOS, and that BIOS is not the same as my hardware BIOS, the Windows installer sees that and requires an activation. The need for activation is normally triggered by new hardware. In your case, the VM is all new hardware so of course it will want to be activated. Ciao . . . C.Joseph "A promise is nothing more than an attempt to respond to an unreasonable demand." http://blog.tlerma.com/ A Windows professional's view of entering the World of Linux
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