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Guest denmarfl
Posted

WindowsXP Home Edition;SP2.....PC set to download all Microsoft Updates

Automatically.

 

I have Installed Norton Internet Security 2007 twice (NIS 2007).....it is

now running fine. Following each Install when I went to Open Kodak EasyShare

Software (Photo Album) I would get the Windows Error message that my MSXML

file was damaged/Missing or coruptted and it could be repaired by clicking on

OK (Easyshare would not open). When you clicked on OK, the repair

proceeded....and when finished, EasyShare would open. Then, I would see

Microsoft Updates available for install (again following both repairs) and

the file that would install was the MSXML 4.0 SP2 Security Update (KB27978).

To confirm the file that was downloaded after each Reapir as explained above,

I went out to Windows Update and looked at History. This MSXML....file shows

up each time following running the repair as described above.

 

Any suggestions? Thoughts why this is happening? Is there a possible

problem I am experiencing?

 

All seems to be running OK....but I have concerns as to why this file

becomes...missing/damaged\Corrupted following the Install of NIS 2007 (I

wrote Symantec.....they had no idea...said it was a Microsoft File and

contact Microsoft); then prevents me from opening Easyshare, goes through a

repair...then downloads the MSXML...file and installs the file via Microsoft

Auto Updates.

Guest MowGreen [MVP]
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

Since you asked ... NIS is not fit for XP. As you've witnessed, it

damages/corrupts system files, in your case, the MSXML ones.

The issue may stem from either the firewall or the antivirus component

of NIS.

Not sure how to deal with the firewall, but you can configure the AV

component not to scan system files associated with the update process:

 

Virus scanning recommendations for computers that are running Windows

Server 2003, Windows 2000, or Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158

 

Is MSXML 4.0 SP2 listed in Add/Remove Programs separately from the other

XP Software Updates shown at the bottom ?

Are there randomly named folders being generated on the root drive [the

drive where WINDOWS is installed, usually C:\] ?

 

Fix: Kb927978 And Kb925672 Repeatedly Reoffered

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blogs/mowgreen/index.php?showentry=968

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

===============

*-343-* FDNY

Never Forgotten

===============

 

 

denmarfl wrote:

> WindowsXP Home Edition;SP2.....PC set to download all Microsoft Updates

> Automatically.

>

> I have Installed Norton Internet Security 2007 twice (NIS 2007).....it is

> now running fine. Following each Install when I went to Open Kodak EasyShare

> Software (Photo Album) I would get the Windows Error message that my MSXML

> file was damaged/Missing or coruptted and it could be repaired by clicking on

> OK (Easyshare would not open). When you clicked on OK, the repair

> proceeded....and when finished, EasyShare would open. Then, I would see

> Microsoft Updates available for install (again following both repairs) and

> the file that would install was the MSXML 4.0 SP2 Security Update (KB27978).

> To confirm the file that was downloaded after each Reapir as explained above,

> I went out to Windows Update and looked at History. This MSXML....file shows

> up each time following running the repair as described above.

>

> Any suggestions? Thoughts why this is happening? Is there a possible

> problem I am experiencing?

>

> All seems to be running OK....but I have concerns as to why this file

> becomes...missing/damaged\Corrupted following the Install of NIS 2007 (I

> wrote Symantec.....they had no idea...said it was a Microsoft File and

> contact Microsoft); then prevents me from opening Easyshare, goes through a

> repair...then downloads the MSXML...file and installs the file via Microsoft

> Auto Updates.

Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

"denmarfl" wrote

> WindowsXP Home Edition;SP2.....PC set to download all Microsoft Updates

> Automatically.

>

> I have Installed Norton Internet Security 2007 twice (NIS 2007).....it is

> now running fine. Following each Install when I went to Open Kodak

> EasyShare

> Software (Photo Album) I would get the Windows Error message that my MSXML

> file was damaged/Missing or coruptted and it could be repaired by clicking

> on

> OK (Easyshare would not open). When you clicked on OK, the repair

> proceeded....and when finished, EasyShare would open. Then, I would see

> Microsoft Updates available for install (again following both repairs) and

> the file that would install was the MSXML 4.0 SP2 Security Update

> (KB27978).

> To confirm the file that was downloaded after each Reapir as explained

> above,

> I went out to Windows Update and looked at History. This MSXML....file

> shows

> up each time following running the repair as described above.

>

> Any suggestions? Thoughts why this is happening? Is there a possible

> problem I am experiencing?

>

> All seems to be running OK....but I have concerns as to why this file

> becomes...missing/damaged\Corrupted following the Install of NIS 2007 (I

> wrote Symantec.....they had no idea...said it was a Microsoft File and

> contact Microsoft); then prevents me from opening Easyshare, goes through

> a

> repair...then downloads the MSXML...file and installs the file via

> Microsoft

> Auto Updates.

 

You are better off without NIS. There are other, less resource intensive,

less problematic programs that work better, some of which are free.

 

Anti-Virus: Avast (free), NOD32 and Kaspersky; some like AVG (free)

 

Firewall (all free): Sunbelt Software Kerio Personal Firewall, Comodo

Personal Firewall, Zone Alarm.

 

Anti-Malware (all free): Ad-Aware (new version just released), SpyBot S&D,

Windows Defender, SUPERAntiSpyware, AVG AntiSpyware, BHO Demon, Spyware

Blaster (this offers passive protection to keep some malware from

installing), and HijackThis to name some of them.

 

--

Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

My Add\Remove list shows the MSXML 2.0 SP2 (KB 927978) separately from the

other XP Software Updates shown at the bottom of the list. Its

Alphabetically listed.

 

I also have MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB925672) listed right under the MSXML (KB

927978) . Should I have BOTH?

 

I do not understand your other comment "Are there randomly named folders

being generated on the root drive". Please explain what I should do to

better resond to this comment.

 

You certainly have zero'ed in on the issue because when you install NIS,

part of the Install forces a Full System Scan before the Installation is

complete, and, its following the Install of NIS (as I mentioned I had to do

the Install twice), both times I got the message regarding the problem with

the MSXML file when I tried to open my Kodak Easyshare Software (and

EasyShare would not open). But here is what I still don't understand. I saw

the message when I went to Open my EasyShare Software, the message is a

Windows message......its not generated by EasyShare, the message reads a

repair of the MSXML can be done, you click on yes and the Window that opens

is the EasyShare Software Repair Window....the repair runs very similar to

what it looked like when Easyshare was originally installed. After the repair

finishes you can open the Easyshare software.

 

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Since you asked ... NIS is not fit for XP. As you've witnessed, it

> damages/corrupts system files, in your case, the MSXML ones.

> The issue may stem from either the firewall or the antivirus component

> of NIS.

> Not sure how to deal with the firewall, but you can configure the AV

> component not to scan system files associated with the update process:

>

> Virus scanning recommendations for computers that are running Windows

> Server 2003, Windows 2000, or Windows XP

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158

>

> Is MSXML 4.0 SP2 listed in Add/Remove Programs separately from the other

> XP Software Updates shown at the bottom ?

> Are there randomly named folders being generated on the root drive [the

> drive where WINDOWS is installed, usually C:\] ?

>

> Fix: Kb927978 And Kb925672 Repeatedly Reoffered

> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blogs/mowgreen/index.php?showentry=968

>

> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> ===============

> *-343-* FDNY

> Never Forgotten

> ===============

>

>

> denmarfl wrote:

>

> > WindowsXP Home Edition;SP2.....PC set to download all Microsoft Updates

> > Automatically.

> >

> > I have Installed Norton Internet Security 2007 twice (NIS 2007).....it is

> > now running fine. Following each Install when I went to Open Kodak EasyShare

> > Software (Photo Album) I would get the Windows Error message that my MSXML

> > file was damaged/Missing or coruptted and it could be repaired by clicking on

> > OK (Easyshare would not open). When you clicked on OK, the repair

> > proceeded....and when finished, EasyShare would open. Then, I would see

> > Microsoft Updates available for install (again following both repairs) and

> > the file that would install was the MSXML 4.0 SP2 Security Update (KB27978).

> > To confirm the file that was downloaded after each Reapir as explained above,

> > I went out to Windows Update and looked at History. This MSXML....file shows

> > up each time following running the repair as described above.

> >

> > Any suggestions? Thoughts why this is happening? Is there a possible

> > problem I am experiencing?

> >

> > All seems to be running OK....but I have concerns as to why this file

> > becomes...missing/damaged\Corrupted following the Install of NIS 2007 (I

> > wrote Symantec.....they had no idea...said it was a Microsoft File and

> > contact Microsoft); then prevents me from opening Easyshare, goes through a

> > repair...then downloads the MSXML...file and installs the file via Microsoft

> > Auto Updates.

>

Guest MowGreen [MVP]
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

Answers inline:

 

denmarfl wrote:

> My Add\Remove list shows the MSXML 2.0 SP2 (KB 927978) separately from the

> other XP Software Updates shown at the bottom of the list. Its

> Alphabetically listed.

>

> I also have MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB925672) listed right under the MSXML (KB

> 927978) . Should I have BOTH?

 

Yes

> I do not understand your other comment "Are there randomly named folders

> being generated on the root drive". Please explain what I should do to

> better resond to this comment.

 

Each installation of KB925672 will create a folder on the root drive

[the drive where WINDOWS is installed, usually C:\] with a random name

which may/will include numbers. In those folders will be an installation

log.

Said folders can be safely deleted.

> You certainly have zero'ed in on the issue because when you install NIS,

> part of the Install forces a Full System Scan before the Installation is

> complete, and, its following the Install of NIS (as I mentioned I had to do

> the Install twice), both times I got the message regarding the problem with

> the MSXML file when I tried to open my Kodak Easyshare Software (and

> EasyShare would not open). But here is what I still don't understand. I saw

> the message when I went to Open my EasyShare Software, the message is a

> Windows message......its not generated by EasyShare, the message reads a

> repair of the MSXML can be done, you click on yes and the Window that opens

> is the EasyShare Software Repair Window....the repair runs very similar to

> what it looked like when Easyshare was originally installed. After the repair

> finishes you can open the Easyshare software.

 

The message *is* a Windows message, not from NIS. And, NIS will continue

to corrupt/damage the MSXML 'files' unless you figure out how to

configure it to NOT scan whatever it's corrupting/damaging.

Frankly, removing NIS from the system will make it a much happier camper.

It's your choice.

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

===============

*-343-* FDNY

Never Forgotten

===============

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

I looked at the Folders in C:\ (Windowns is installed on the drive). The

only folder I saw with numbers is 1386 which I think is a folder that is part

of Windows, or at has nothing to do with the folders you have dscribed. I

recognized all other folders in C:\ except KPCMS Folder....so I am not sure

the folders you were referring to are on my drive. Could it be they are not?

Any further thoughts?

 

I hear you loud and clear on removing NIS.... I did run a Full NIS scan

today and there were no problems....Easyshare opened without the message that

the MSXML file was damaged. That would mean to me that it was the Install of

NIS that damaged the MSXML file and not the scan.

 

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Answers inline:

>

> denmarfl wrote:

>

> > My Add\Remove list shows the MSXML 2.0 SP2 (KB 927978) separately from the

> > other XP Software Updates shown at the bottom of the list. Its

> > Alphabetically listed.

> >

> > I also have MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB925672) listed right under the MSXML (KB

> > 927978) . Should I have BOTH?

>

> Yes

>

> > I do not understand your other comment "Are there randomly named folders

> > being generated on the root drive". Please explain what I should do to

> > better resond to this comment.

>

> Each installation of KB925672 will create a folder on the root drive

> [the drive where WINDOWS is installed, usually C:\] with a random name

> which may/will include numbers. In those folders will be an installation

> log.

> Said folders can be safely deleted.

>

> > You certainly have zero'ed in on the issue because when you install NIS,

> > part of the Install forces a Full System Scan before the Installation is

> > complete, and, its following the Install of NIS (as I mentioned I had to do

> > the Install twice), both times I got the message regarding the problem with

> > the MSXML file when I tried to open my Kodak Easyshare Software (and

> > EasyShare would not open). But here is what I still don't understand. I saw

> > the message when I went to Open my EasyShare Software, the message is a

> > Windows message......its not generated by EasyShare, the message reads a

> > repair of the MSXML can be done, you click on yes and the Window that opens

> > is the EasyShare Software Repair Window....the repair runs very similar to

> > what it looked like when Easyshare was originally installed. After the repair

> > finishes you can open the Easyshare software.

>

> The message *is* a Windows message, not from NIS. And, NIS will continue

> to corrupt/damage the MSXML 'files' unless you figure out how to

> configure it to NOT scan whatever it's corrupting/damaging.

> Frankly, removing NIS from the system will make it a much happier camper.

> It's your choice.

>

> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> ===============

> *-343-* FDNY

> Never Forgotten

> ===============

>

>

Guest MowGreen [MVP]
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

Perhaps you have to enable show hidden files, folders, and system files:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html#winxp

 

The folders will be named similarly as '7fedqe3tgfvrn'

If you still do not see them after showing hidden files then perhaps the

Hard Drive is partitioned and there is more free space on the other

partition . That would cause the randomly named folders to be created

on the partition with more free space.

 

THe randomly named folders contain the installation logs ... they are

either named msxml4-kb927978-enu.log or msxml4-kb927978.log

You can do a search of the system to see if any exist.

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

===============

*-343-* FDNY

Never Forgotten

===============

 

 

denmarfl wrote:

> I looked at the Folders in C:\ (Windowns is installed on the drive). The

> only folder I saw with numbers is 1386 which I think is a folder that is part

> of Windows, or at has nothing to do with the folders you have dscribed. I

> recognized all other folders in C:\ except KPCMS Folder....so I am not sure

> the folders you were referring to are on my drive. Could it be they are not?

> Any further thoughts?

>

> I hear you loud and clear on removing NIS.... I did run a Full NIS scan

> today and there were no problems....Easyshare opened without the message that

> the MSXML file was damaged. That would mean to me that it was the Install of

> NIS that damaged the MSXML file and not the scan.

>

> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>

>

>>Answers inline:

>>

>>denmarfl wrote:

>>

>>

>>>My Add\Remove list shows the MSXML 2.0 SP2 (KB 927978) separately from the

>>>other XP Software Updates shown at the bottom of the list. Its

>>>Alphabetically listed.

>>>

>>>I also have MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB925672) listed right under the MSXML (KB

>>>927978) . Should I have BOTH?

>>

>>Yes

>>

>>

>>>I do not understand your other comment "Are there randomly named folders

>>>being generated on the root drive". Please explain what I should do to

>>>better resond to this comment.

>>

>>Each installation of KB925672 will create a folder on the root drive

>>[the drive where WINDOWS is installed, usually C:\] with a random name

>>which may/will include numbers. In those folders will be an installation

>>log.

>>Said folders can be safely deleted.

>>

>>

>>>You certainly have zero'ed in on the issue because when you install NIS,

>>>part of the Install forces a Full System Scan before the Installation is

>>>complete, and, its following the Install of NIS (as I mentioned I had to do

>>>the Install twice), both times I got the message regarding the problem with

>>>the MSXML file when I tried to open my Kodak Easyshare Software (and

>>>EasyShare would not open). But here is what I still don't understand. I saw

>>>the message when I went to Open my EasyShare Software, the message is a

>>>Windows message......its not generated by EasyShare, the message reads a

>>>repair of the MSXML can be done, you click on yes and the Window that opens

>>>is the EasyShare Software Repair Window....the repair runs very similar to

>>>what it looked like when Easyshare was originally installed. After the repair

>>>finishes you can open the Easyshare software.

>>

>>The message *is* a Windows message, not from NIS. And, NIS will continue

>>to corrupt/damage the MSXML 'files' unless you figure out how to

>>configure it to NOT scan whatever it's corrupting/damaging.

>>Frankly, removing NIS from the system will make it a much happier camper.

>>It's your choice.

>>

>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

>>===============

>> *-343-* FDNY

>>Never Forgotten

>>===============

>>

>>

  • 3 weeks later...
Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

I have been thinking about your comment regarding Norton IS 2007 and how

intursive it is and how it can impact the speed of your PC. I have heard

good things about Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Security 2007. In fact, the

Sept '07 Consumer Reports magizine tested many different Protection softwares

and reated Trend Micro the top Software in just about every catagory;

Antivirus/antispam/antispyware.

 

What are your thoughts regarding this Protection Software?

 

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Perhaps you have to enable show hidden files, folders, and system files:

> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html#winxp

>

> The folders will be named similarly as '7fedqe3tgfvrn'

> If you still do not see them after showing hidden files then perhaps the

> Hard Drive is partitioned and there is more free space on the other

> partition . That would cause the randomly named folders to be created

> on the partition with more free space.

>

> THe randomly named folders contain the installation logs ... they are

> either named msxml4-kb927978-enu.log or msxml4-kb927978.log

> You can do a search of the system to see if any exist.

>

> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> ===============

> *-343-* FDNY

> Never Forgotten

> ===============

>

>

> denmarfl wrote:

>

> > I looked at the Folders in C:\ (Windowns is installed on the drive). The

> > only folder I saw with numbers is 1386 which I think is a folder that is part

> > of Windows, or at has nothing to do with the folders you have dscribed. I

> > recognized all other folders in C:\ except KPCMS Folder....so I am not sure

> > the folders you were referring to are on my drive. Could it be they are not?

> > Any further thoughts?

> >

> > I hear you loud and clear on removing NIS.... I did run a Full NIS scan

> > today and there were no problems....Easyshare opened without the message that

> > the MSXML file was damaged. That would mean to me that it was the Install of

> > NIS that damaged the MSXML file and not the scan.

> >

> > "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >

> >>Answers inline:

> >>

> >>denmarfl wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>My Add\Remove list shows the MSXML 2.0 SP2 (KB 927978) separately from the

> >>>other XP Software Updates shown at the bottom of the list. Its

> >>>Alphabetically listed.

> >>>

> >>>I also have MSXML 4.0 SP2 (KB925672) listed right under the MSXML (KB

> >>>927978) . Should I have BOTH?

> >>

> >>Yes

> >>

> >>

> >>>I do not understand your other comment "Are there randomly named folders

> >>>being generated on the root drive". Please explain what I should do to

> >>>better resond to this comment.

> >>

> >>Each installation of KB925672 will create a folder on the root drive

> >>[the drive where WINDOWS is installed, usually C:\] with a random name

> >>which may/will include numbers. In those folders will be an installation

> >>log.

> >>Said folders can be safely deleted.

> >>

> >>

> >>>You certainly have zero'ed in on the issue because when you install NIS,

> >>>part of the Install forces a Full System Scan before the Installation is

> >>>complete, and, its following the Install of NIS (as I mentioned I had to do

> >>>the Install twice), both times I got the message regarding the problem with

> >>>the MSXML file when I tried to open my Kodak Easyshare Software (and

> >>>EasyShare would not open). But here is what I still don't understand. I saw

> >>>the message when I went to Open my EasyShare Software, the message is a

> >>>Windows message......its not generated by EasyShare, the message reads a

> >>>repair of the MSXML can be done, you click on yes and the Window that opens

> >>>is the EasyShare Software Repair Window....the repair runs very similar to

> >>>what it looked like when Easyshare was originally installed. After the repair

> >>>finishes you can open the Easyshare software.

> >>

> >>The message *is* a Windows message, not from NIS. And, NIS will continue

> >>to corrupt/damage the MSXML 'files' unless you figure out how to

> >>configure it to NOT scan whatever it's corrupting/damaging.

> >>Frankly, removing NIS from the system will make it a much happier camper.

> >>It's your choice.

> >>

> >>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> >>===============

> >> *-343-* FDNY

> >>Never Forgotten

> >>===============

> >>

> >>

>

Guest denmarfl
Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

I have given thought to your commetns regarding Norton IS 2007......

 

I have heard good things about Trend Miro PC=Cillin IS 2007. The Sept Issue

of Consumer Reports rated protection softwares and Trend Micro was rated the

best in all catagories.

 

What are your thoughts regarding this Internet Security Software.......

 

"Rock" wrote:

> "denmarfl" wrote

> > WindowsXP Home Edition;SP2.....PC set to download all Microsoft Updates

> > Automatically.

> >

> > I have Installed Norton Internet Security 2007 twice (NIS 2007).....it is

> > now running fine. Following each Install when I went to Open Kodak

> > EasyShare

> > Software (Photo Album) I would get the Windows Error message that my MSXML

> > file was damaged/Missing or coruptted and it could be repaired by clicking

> > on

> > OK (Easyshare would not open). When you clicked on OK, the repair

> > proceeded....and when finished, EasyShare would open. Then, I would see

> > Microsoft Updates available for install (again following both repairs) and

> > the file that would install was the MSXML 4.0 SP2 Security Update

> > (KB27978).

> > To confirm the file that was downloaded after each Reapir as explained

> > above,

> > I went out to Windows Update and looked at History. This MSXML....file

> > shows

> > up each time following running the repair as described above.

> >

> > Any suggestions? Thoughts why this is happening? Is there a possible

> > problem I am experiencing?

> >

> > All seems to be running OK....but I have concerns as to why this file

> > becomes...missing/damaged\Corrupted following the Install of NIS 2007 (I

> > wrote Symantec.....they had no idea...said it was a Microsoft File and

> > contact Microsoft); then prevents me from opening Easyshare, goes through

> > a

> > repair...then downloads the MSXML...file and installs the file via

> > Microsoft

> > Auto Updates.

>

> You are better off without NIS. There are other, less resource intensive,

> less problematic programs that work better, some of which are free.

>

> Anti-Virus: Avast (free), NOD32 and Kaspersky; some like AVG (free)

>

> Firewall (all free): Sunbelt Software Kerio Personal Firewall, Comodo

> Personal Firewall, Zone Alarm.

>

> Anti-Malware (all free): Ad-Aware (new version just released), SpyBot S&D,

> Windows Defender, SUPERAntiSpyware, AVG AntiSpyware, BHO Demon, Spyware

> Blaster (this offers passive protection to keep some malware from

> installing), and HijackThis to name some of them.

>

> --

> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

>

>

Posted

Re: MSXML File

 

"denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>I have given thought to your commetns regarding Norton IS 2007......

>

> I have heard good things about Trend Miro PC=Cillin IS 2007. The Sept

> Issue

> of Consumer Reports rated protection softwares and Trend Micro was rated

> the

> best in all catagories.

>

> What are your thoughts regarding this Internet Security Software.......

 

<snip>

 

Sorry I have no experience with it. I do tend to stay away from large

security suites. They tend to be bloated, and something that tries to do

everything well can sometimes end up being mediocre. In the post to which

you replied I gave my recommendations for security programs.

 

--

Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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