Guest Curt Christianson Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 Re: registry cleaner Touché -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message news:%23u7$$HuBIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | It has nothing to do with MVP. I have held the same views for many years. | Perhaps you would take it better from me if I used my old IBM status? | | | "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message | news:fe3t13$b5k$2@aioe.org... | > Mike Hall - MVP wrote: | >> Now you are making it up as you go along.. | > | > I haven't changed anything I've said and stand by all statements. I have | > done it. Many times. You have never done it so all you have are insults | > and a sneering techier than thou attitude, typical of those who feel they | > need to post under the MVP badge. | >> | >> | >> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message | >> news:fe34qf$tvp$2@aioe.org... | >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote: | >>>> The defrag would have impacted performance more than orphaned registry | >>>> entries. | >>> | >>> It booted up quicker and had better performance BEFORE the defrag, right | >>> after cleaning up the registry. After the defrag, it got even better. | >>> | >>>> | >>>> | >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message | >>>> news:fe2ucg$9pj$1@aioe.org... | >>>>> Gerry wrote: | >>>>>> Alias | >>>>>> | >>>>>> I cannot see where you did? You might try a little harder instead of | >>>>>> being evasive. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> The only way you can demonstrate your point is to test performance | >>>>>> after | >>>>>> each stage of housekeeping. Unless a registry entry causes a timeout | >>>>>> any | >>>>>> superfluous entry will have so little affect than you would not | >>>>>> notice | >>>>>> any difference in performance. You mention removing 1,000 registry | >>>>>> entries but how many of those entries would have been accessed when | >>>>>> you | >>>>>> restart the computer? Very few I suspect. If they are accessed to | >>>>>> provide a false start-up the best solution is to remove them manually | >>>>>> using Autoruns, having first confirmed what affect they have by | >>>>>> disabling rather than removing. The processor handles so many | >>>>>> transactions continuously that a few extra do not make a significant | >>>>>> difference. Event Viewer Reports generate errors / warnings if there | >>>>>> is | >>>>>> a problem and it is logical to follow up from there. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Based on what you say you have been doing I do not see that you can | >>>>>> distinguish between the effect on performance of removing unnecessary | >>>>>> registry entries and defragmenting 4,000 files. Defragmenting in the | >>>>>> situation you describe will have a noticeable impact. Your approach | >>>>>> may | >>>>>> not pose a significant risk in your hands but if the risk converts to | >>>>>> reality you can have a major problem which may be very difficult to | >>>>>> recover from. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> -- | >>>>>> Regards. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Gerry | >>>>>> ~~~~ | >>>>>> FCA | >>>>>> Stourport, England | >>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute | >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>>> Alias wrote: | >>>>>>> Gerry wrote: | >>>>>>>> Alias | >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> You chose not to respond to the specific points I made earlier, | >>>>>>>> electing only to answer one of a number. Was that because it did | >>>>>>>> not | >>>>>>>> suit your cause? | >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>> | >>>>>>> That's because I already addressed them. You just don't accept what | >>>>>>> I | >>>>>>> say. I can't prove it to you unless you come here and watch it in | >>>>>>> action because anything I say that happened, you won't believe. | >>>>>>> | >>>>>>> Unfortunately, you can't do it yourself because System Suite 5 is no | >>>>>>> longer available and 8, the new version, isn't as good due to the | >>>>>>> fact | >>>>>>> that someone bought out VCOM and changed the program considerably. | >>>>>> | >>>>>> | >>>>> | >>>>> Is there an echo in here? I removed a slew of errant registry entries | >>>>> and the performance was increased and the boot time decreased. Chances | >>>>> are you don't install and uninstall as many programs as the user of | >>>>> the computer I worked on did. I doubt you let your hard drive | >>>>> accumulate over 4000 fragmented files either. | >>>>> | >>>>> I am also 100% positive that you've never used System Suite 5 and I | >>>>> seriously doubt any of the others who sneer at registry fixers have | >>>>> either. If what you and the others say is true, I would have fuçked up | >>>>> 100s of computers and none, I repeat none, had anything but positive | >>>>> results from using System Suite 5. I have a friend who turned me on to | >>>>> SS5 and he's a repair tech and has used it on thousands of computers | >>>>> with no ill effects, only positive results. So if thousands of | >>>>> instances with 100% success rates isn't good enough for you, find | >>>>> someone with SS5 and install and uninstall a couple of hundred | >>>>> programs, run it and do the tests the way you think they should be | >>>>> done. Either that or STFU. | >>>>> | >>>>> -- | >>>>> Alias | >>>>> To email me, remove shoes | >>>> | >>> | >>> | >>> -- | >>> Alias | >>> To email me, remove shoes | >> | > | > | > -- | > Alias | > To email me, remove shoes |
Guest Curt Christianson Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 Re: registry cleaner Many of the persons conducting the tests in the following forum know their stuff, but not *necessarily* more than a non-MVP. Discussion of Registry "Cleaners" http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 I would not have to keep quoting said thread if a few naive individuals would at least read it (requires comprehension too). The testing methods are repeatable, which by itself adds credence to their claims. There are many MVP's in that forum who could quite frankly make others appear embecilic with their arguments at best. I'm not an MVP, I don't like reg cleaners either. But if ONE scientific test could once and for all prove the overall worthwhile of a Reg, cleaner--I would be the first to scream "congratulations". -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eeSs9$bBIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | Discussion of Registry "Cleaners" | http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 | | -- | HTH, | Curt | | Windows Support Center | http://www.aumha.org | Practically Nerded,... | http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm | | "elenbe" <elenbe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | news:2AFE2006-473F-413B-AC00-67AA94F1505C@microsoft.com... || what if the registry I want to delete is from a program that I deleted | using || the Add/Remove option?? || || "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: || || > || > "monteiro" <monteiro@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message || > news:5DC4B89D-83DE-4BEB-9522-1554556979EC@microsoft.com... || > > hello i need help to solve this problem in windows live onecare scaner | was || > > been found 2 invalid registry ,and 1 i use at long time oneclik that | one || > > found 166 invalid registry ,i download uniblue registryboost and we | found || > > 491 || > > invalid registry ,this all about becouse my computer crash , programes || > > stop || > > midle of tasks,is any thing i can change for improve my computer || > > performance || > > ,many thanks. || > || > I suspect that your computer's unstable performance is caused || > by you using a registry "cleaner". Do not use them. At best they || > do not deliver any benefit; at worst they cripple your machine. || > In your case you probably have to reload Windows and re-install || > all applications. Remember to save your important files and your || > EMail to an independent medium first. || > || > || > | |
Guest antioch Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 Re: registry cleaner Reply intertwined/contextualised - "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ebAxx0JCIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Many of the persons conducting the tests in the following forum know > their > stuff, but not *necessarily* more than a non-MVP. > > Discussion of Registry "Cleaners" > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 > > I would not have to keep quoting said thread if a few naive individuals > would at least read it (requires comprehension too). Keep quoting and quoting and quoting - so will I now you have provided that valuable link. In any case, what makes you think those 'naive individuals' would be able to read let alone comprehend that viewtopic. CLIPPED > I'm not an MVP, I don't like reg cleaners either. Neither am I on both counts - but I will always add my own rather pathetic twopennyworth, pointing out the dangers of RC's, to posters. The pro-RC's really annoy me when they recommend these cleaners, out of hand, without any consideration as top the expertise of the poster, or the possible downside to using them. In 2002 I had not heard of newsgroups/discussion groups and had owned a computer for less than a year, when I used a well known RC(R.M.), on the recommendation of a Computer Magazine - it knocked out the computer. So never again. > But if ONE scientific test could once and for all prove the overall > worthwhile of a Reg, cleaner--I would be the first to scream > "congratulations". I MIGHT wave a flag with you :-) > HTH, > Curt > > Windows Support Center > http://www.aumha.org > Practically Nerded,... > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm Rgds Antioch
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