Guest webster72n Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn. Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all colors present. This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. Otherwise no changes. It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? Or is the cause somewhere else? If it can be fixed, please let me know. Harry.
Guest Mart Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Harry, please expand :- > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > missing, Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using the Properties/Settings utility window? Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are using your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically changes' under all circumstances? If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable ends are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you just been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently?? Bed time! Mart "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn. > > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all > colors present. > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. > Otherwise no changes. > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > Or is the cause somewhere else? > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > > Harry. > >
Guest webster72n Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Harry, please expand :- > > > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > > missing, > > Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using the > Properties/Settings utility window? I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with the color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or should I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently from my color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my machinery'. > > Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are using > your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically > changes' under all circumstances? > > If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to a > failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any > symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable ends > are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you just > been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently?? Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'. For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way out. > > Bed time! Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ > > Mart > > > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn. > > > > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > > > > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all > > colors present. > > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. > > Otherwise no changes. > > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). > > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > > Or is the cause somewhere else? > > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > > > > Harry. > > > > > >
Guest Mart Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then you're back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms >> of dry joints) Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor? Have you tried substituting your monitor? >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? Can you try a spare VGA cable? >> or a failing/loose Video Card. You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm still not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta say.. so long ME) Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your monitor being the favourite. Mart "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Harry, please expand :- >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely >> > missing, >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using >> the >> Properties/Settings utility window? > > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with > the > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or > should > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently from > my > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my > machinery'. > >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are > using >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically >> changes' under all circumstances? >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to >> a >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable >> ends >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you > just >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently?? > > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'. > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way > out. > >> >> Bed time! > > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ > >> >> Mart >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to >> > turn. >> > >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >> > >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with > all >> > colors present. >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. >> > Otherwise no changes. >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >> > >> > Harry. >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest N. Miller Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:17 -0400, webster72n wrote: > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn. > > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all > colors present. > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. > Otherwise no changes. > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > Or is the cause somewhere else? > If it can be fixed, please let me know. Monitors tend to die, after time. Especially the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) variety, including TV sets. I had a ten-year-old Zenith monitor lost the blue gun. I have a fifteen-year-old Zenith TV which is losing the red gun. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Guest webster72n Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems like the green is missing in the color scheme too. Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it legitimate, or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't be going back to normal, as it did now, should it? The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find a solution. Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first thought. But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? Thanks for your patience. Harry. "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then you're > back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- > > >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm > >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms > >> of dry joints) > > Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor? > Have you tried substituting your monitor? > > >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the > >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) > > Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? > Can you try a spare VGA cable? > > >> or a failing/loose Video Card. > > You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm still > not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta > say.. so long ME) > > Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? > > From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your > monitor being the favourite. > > Mart > > > > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> Harry, please expand :- > >> > >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > >> > missing, > >> > >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using > >> the > >> Properties/Settings utility window? > > > > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with > > the > > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or > > should > > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently from > > my > > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? > > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my > > machinery'. > > > >> > >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are > > using > >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red 'sporadically > >> changes' under all circumstances? > >> > >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due to > >> a > >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any > >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable > >> ends > >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't you > > just > >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently?? > > > > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. > > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'. > > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way > > out. > > > >> > >> Bed time! > > > > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ > > > >> > >> Mart > >> > >> > >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to > >> > turn. > >> > > >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > >> > > >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with > > all > >> > colors present. > >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. > >> > Otherwise no changes. > >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). > >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? > >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > >> > > >> > Harry. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest webster72n Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message news:401zpkyz5f1z$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net... > On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:17 -0400, webster72n wrote: > > > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to turn. > > > > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > > > > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely > > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with all > > colors present. > > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. > > Otherwise no changes. > > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). > > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > > Or is the cause somewhere else? > > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > > Monitors tend to die, after time. Especially the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) > variety, including TV sets. > > I had a ten-year-old Zenith monitor lost the blue gun. > > I have a fifteen-year-old Zenith TV which is losing the red gun. I'm taking it under advisement, Norman, thank you. <H>. > > -- > Norman > ~Shine, bright morning light, > ~now in the air the spring is coming. > ~Sweet, blowing wind, > ~singing down the hills and valleys.
Guest Heather Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Harry,.......stop being a "wuss" and either do what Mart says or try a different monitor. It will not get any better if you just ignore it. And if you are not willing to take the advice of your betters on here, then don't ask the questions. Capish?? Obviously your monitor is biting the dust and it is giving you warning signals. So is Mart.....so am I. You are ignoring them all. HF "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23JA285T0HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when > I'm > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems > like > the green is missing in the color scheme too. > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it > legitimate, > or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't > be > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find > a > solution. > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first > thought. > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? > Thanks for your patience. > > Harry. > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then >> you're >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- >> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms >> >> of dry joints) >> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your >> monitor? >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? >> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) >> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? >> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. >> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although >> I'm > still >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: >> gotta >> say.. so long ME) >> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? >> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with >> your >> monitor being the favourite. >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> Harry, please expand :- >> >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> > completely >> >> > missing, >> >> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst >> >> using >> >> the >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? >> > >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, >> > with >> > the >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, >> > or >> > should >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing >> > permanently > from >> > my >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my >> > machinery'. >> > >> >> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you >> >> are >> > using >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red > 'sporadically >> >> changes' under all circumstances? >> >> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be >> >> due > to >> >> a >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show >> >> any >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA >> >> cable >> >> ends >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! >> >> haven't you >> > just >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very >> >> recently?? >> > >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working >> > properly'. >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a >> > way >> > out. >> > >> >> >> >> Bed time! >> > >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ >> > >> >> >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where >> >> > to >> >> > turn. >> >> > >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >> >> > >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> > completely >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' >> >> > with >> > all >> >> > colors present. >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue >> >> > purplish. >> >> > Otherwise no changes. >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a >> >> > guess). >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >> >> > >> >> > Harry. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Mart Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Harry wrote :- > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. Usually a very good indicator. Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high voltages, heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat? > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems like > the green is missing in the color scheme too. > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it > legitimate, > or what? Dunno Harry, sorry. > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't be > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive or inexpensive! > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find a > solution. The operative word being 'moment' Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your next PC when your WinMe box finally expires. Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the casing. Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run. > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry? Never! > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first thought. > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? No > Thanks for your patience. > > Harry. > Mart > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then >> you're >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- >> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms >> >> of dry joints) >> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor? >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? >> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) >> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? >> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. >> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm > still >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta >> say.. so long ME) >> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? >> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your >> monitor being the favourite. >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> Harry, please expand :- >> >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> > completely >> >> > missing, >> >> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using >> >> the >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? >> > >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with >> > the >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or >> > should >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently > from >> > my >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my >> > machinery'. >> > >> >> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are >> > using >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red > 'sporadically >> >> changes' under all circumstances? >> >> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due > to >> >> a >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable >> >> ends >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't >> >> you >> > just >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently?? >> > >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'. >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way >> > out. >> > >> >> >> >> Bed time! >> > >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ >> > >> >> >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to >> >> > turn. >> >> > >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >> >> > >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> > completely >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' >> >> > with >> > all >> >> > colors present. >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. >> >> > Otherwise no changes. >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >> >> > >> >> > Harry. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest webster72n Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing You butt out - C A P I S H ? "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:eorVgXU0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Harry,.......stop being a "wuss" and either do what Mart says or try a > different monitor. It will not get any better if you just ignore it. > And if you are not willing to take the advice of your betters on here, > then don't ask the questions. Capish?? > > Obviously your monitor is biting the dust and it is giving you warning > signals. So is Mart.....so am I. You are ignoring them all. > > HF > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23JA285T0HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other > > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. > > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when > > I'm > > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems > > like > > the green is missing in the color scheme too. > > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it > > legitimate, > > or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. > > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't > > be > > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? > > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. > > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find > > a > > solution. > > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. > > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first > > thought. > > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. > > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? > > Thanks for your patience. > > > > Harry. > > > > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then > >> you're > >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- > >> > >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm > >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms > >> >> of dry joints) > >> > >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your > >> monitor? > >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? > >> > >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the > >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) > >> > >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? > >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? > >> > >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. > >> > >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although > >> I'm > > still > >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: > >> gotta > >> say.. so long ME) > >> > >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? > >> > >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with > >> your > >> monitor being the favourite. > >> > >> Mart > >> > >> > >> > >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> > > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> Harry, please expand :- > >> >> > >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now > >> >> > completely > >> >> > missing, > >> >> > >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst > >> >> using > >> >> the > >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? > >> > > >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, > >> > with > >> > the > >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, > >> > or > >> > should > >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing > >> > permanently > > from > >> > my > >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? > >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my > >> > machinery'. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you > >> >> are > >> > using > >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red > > 'sporadically > >> >> changes' under all circumstances? > >> >> > >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be > >> >> due > > to > >> >> a > >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show > >> >> any > >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA > >> >> cable > >> >> ends > >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! > >> >> haven't you > >> > just > >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very > >> >> recently?? > >> > > >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. > >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working > >> > properly'. > >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a > >> > way > >> > out. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Bed time! > >> > > >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Mart > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where > >> >> > to > >> >> > turn. > >> >> > > >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > >> >> > > >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now > >> >> > completely > >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' > >> >> > with > >> > all > >> >> > colors present. > >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue > >> >> > purplish. > >> >> > Otherwise no changes. > >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a > >> >> > guess). > >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? > >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > >> >> > > >> >> > Harry. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Heather Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing ROFL!! Guess I hit a nerve, eh? "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:O99Or6V0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You butt out - C A P I S H ? > > > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:eorVgXU0HHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Harry,.......stop being a "wuss" and either do what Mart says or try >> a >> different monitor. It will not get any better if you just ignore it. >> And if you are not willing to take the advice of your betters on >> here, >> then don't ask the questions. Capish?? >> >> Obviously your monitor is biting the dust and it is giving you >> warning >> signals. So is Mart.....so am I. You are ignoring them all. >> >> HF >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%23JA285T0HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > >> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the >> > other >> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. >> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when >> > I'm >> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. >> > Seems >> > like >> > the green is missing in the color scheme too. >> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it >> > legitimate, >> > or what? Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. >> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it >> > shouldn't >> > be >> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? >> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. >> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I >> > find >> > a >> > solution. >> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. >> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first >> > thought. >> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. >> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? >> > Thanks for your patience. >> > >> > Harry. >> > >> > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) >> >> then >> >> you're >> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- >> >> >> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm >> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms >> >> >> of dry joints) >> >> >> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your >> >> monitor? >> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? >> >> >> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) >> >> >> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? >> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? >> >> >> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. >> >> >> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although >> >> I'm >> > still >> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: >> >> gotta >> >> say.. so long ME) >> >> >> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? >> >> >> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with >> >> your >> >> monitor being the favourite. >> >> >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Harry, please expand :- >> >> >> >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> >> > completely >> >> >> > missing, >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' >> >> >> whilst >> >> >> using >> >> >> the >> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? >> >> > >> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of >> >> > weeks, >> >> > with >> >> > the >> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red >> >> > sporadically, >> >> > or >> >> > should >> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing >> >> > permanently >> > from >> >> > my >> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? >> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of >> >> > my >> >> > machinery'. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when >> >> >> you >> >> >> are >> >> > using >> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red >> > 'sporadically >> >> >> changes' under all circumstances? >> >> >> >> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could >> >> >> be >> >> >> due >> > to >> >> >> a >> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might >> >> >> show >> >> >> any >> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA >> >> >> cable >> >> >> ends >> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! >> >> >> haven't you >> >> > just >> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very >> >> >> recently?? >> >> > >> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. >> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working >> >> > properly'. >> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find >> >> > a >> >> > way >> >> > out. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Bed time! >> >> > >> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also >> >> >> > where >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > turn. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> >> > completely >> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to >> >> >> > 'normal' >> >> >> > with >> >> > all >> >> >> > colors present. >> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue >> >> >> > purplish. >> >> >> > Otherwise no changes. >> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a >> >> >> > guess). >> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Harry. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest webster72n Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Harry wrote :- > > > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other > > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. > > Usually a very good indicator. > > Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high voltages, > heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes > unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat? > > > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm > > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems like > > the green is missing in the color scheme too. > > > > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it > > legitimate, > > or what? > > Dunno Harry, sorry. > > > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. > > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't be > > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? > > Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive or > inexpensive! > > > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. > > I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old > > > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find a > > solution. > > The operative word being 'moment' That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be interfering? > > Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your next > PC when your WinMe box finally expires. > > Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within > it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the casing. No way, Mart, will I do that! > Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll > probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run. My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it should be re-ocurring again and again, as before. > > > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. > > How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry? Never! > > > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first thought. > > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. > > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? > > No > > > Thanks for your patience, again, Mart. > > > > Harry. > > > > Mart > > > > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then > >> you're > >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- > >> > >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm > >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms > >> >> of dry joints) > >> > >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor? > >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? > >> > >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the > >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) > >> > >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? > >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? > >> > >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. > >> > >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm > > still > >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: gotta > >> say.. so long ME) > >> > >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? > >> > >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with your > >> monitor being the favourite. > >> > >> Mart > >> > >> > >> > >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> > > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> Harry, please expand :- > >> >> > >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now > >> >> > completely > >> >> > missing, > >> >> > >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst using > >> >> the > >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? > >> > > >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, with > >> > the > >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or > >> > should > >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently > > from > >> > my > >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? > >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my > >> > machinery'. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you are > >> > using > >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red > > 'sporadically > >> >> changes' under all circumstances? > >> >> > >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be due > > to > >> >> a > >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show any > >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA cable > >> >> ends > >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't > >> >> you > >> > just > >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very recently?? > >> > > >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. > >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working properly'. > >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a way > >> > out. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Bed time! > >> > > >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Mart > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to > >> >> > turn. > >> >> > > >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > >> >> > > >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now > >> >> > completely > >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' > >> >> > with > >> > all > >> >> > colors present. > >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. > >> >> > Otherwise no changes. > >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). > >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? > >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > >> >> > > >> >> > Harry. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Mart Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Still unconvinced, Harry asked - > .... Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be > interfering? Err.. No, Harry, ... No Harry, read my lips :- Although your Red and Green guns (and perhaps the whole of your monitor) may not have completely failed just yet (see also Norman's input regarding life cycles) their associated circuitry would appear to be causing you 'problems' which YOU should not even attempt to repair. The fact that (from here, it appears that) your monitor is on its back with its feet in the air, is a pretty good indication that it is almost deceased (as in "Dead Parrot") You *may* get a few more days, weeks, or even months (of intermittent) working life. You *may* also think that throwing money at it, might also help as well as pratting about, but you can be assured that its (economic) demise is imminent. By all means be optimistic, but do also be prepared for the worst case. Start saving now - it will be 'money in the bank' towards your next PC/Monitor. Wishful feelings - sadly - don't always repair computers. Bite the bullet, Harry, sooner rather than later. You'll wonder why you left it so long! Mart "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uOsE5tW0HHA.5764@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Harry wrote :- >> >> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other >> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. >> >> Usually a very good indicator. >> >> Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high > voltages, >> heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes >> unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat? >> >> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm >> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems > like >> > the green is missing in the color scheme too. >> >> >> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it >> > legitimate, >> > or what? >> >> Dunno Harry, sorry. >> >> > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. >> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't > be >> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? >> >> Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive >> or >> inexpensive! >> >> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. >> >> I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old >> >> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find >> > a >> > solution. >> >> The operative word being 'moment' > > That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be > interfering? > >> >> Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your > next >> PC when your WinMe box finally expires. >> >> Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within >> it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the > casing. > > No way, Mart, will I do that! > >> Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll >> probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run. > > My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it > should > be re-ocurring again and again, as before. > >> >> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. >> >> How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry? > Never! >> >> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first > thought. >> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. >> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? >> >> No >> >> > Thanks for your patience, > > again, Mart. > >> > >> > Harry. >> > >> >> Mart >> >> >> > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then >> >> you're >> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- >> >> >> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm >> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms >> >> >> of dry joints) >> >> >> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor? >> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? >> >> >> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) >> >> >> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? >> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? >> >> >> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. >> >> >> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm >> > still >> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: > gotta >> >> say.. so long ME) >> >> >> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? >> >> >> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with >> >> your >> >> monitor being the favourite. >> >> >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> > >> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Harry, please expand :- >> >> >> >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> >> > completely >> >> >> > missing, >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst > using >> >> >> the >> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? >> >> > >> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, > with >> >> > the >> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or >> >> > should >> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently >> > from >> >> > my >> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? >> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my >> >> > machinery'. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you > are >> >> > using >> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red >> > 'sporadically >> >> >> changes' under all circumstances? >> >> >> >> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be > due >> > to >> >> >> a >> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show > any >> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA > cable >> >> >> ends >> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't >> >> >> you >> >> > just >> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very > recently?? >> >> > >> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. >> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working > properly'. >> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a > way >> >> > out. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Bed time! >> >> > >> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Mart >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > turn. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >> >> >> > completely >> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' >> >> >> > with >> >> > all >> >> >> > colors present. >> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue > purplish. >> >> >> > Otherwise no changes. >> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a >> >> >> > guess). >> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Harry. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest webster72n Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:uBu5tGX0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Still unconvinced, Harry asked - > > > .... Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be > > interfering? > > Err.. No, Harry, ... No > > Harry, read my lips :- > > Although your Red and Green guns (and perhaps the whole of your monitor) may > not have completely failed just yet (see also Norman's input regarding life > cycles) their associated circuitry would appear to be causing you 'problems' > which YOU should not even attempt to repair. The fact that (from here, it > appears that) your monitor is on its back with its feet in the air, is a > pretty good indication that it is almost deceased (as in "Dead Parrot") > > You *may* get a few more days, weeks, or even months (of intermittent) > working life. You *may* also think that throwing money at it, might also > help as well as pratting about, but you can be assured that its (economic) > demise is imminent. > > By all means be optimistic, but do also be prepared for the worst case. > Start saving now - it will be 'money in the bank' towards your next > PC/Monitor. Wishful feelings - sadly - don't always repair computers. > > Bite the bullet, Harry, sooner rather than later. You'll wonder why you left > it so long! Thought I already made that clear, Mart, but as long as it works, let it work. At the next 'warning sign' I'll take appropriate action, according to the given suggestions. Really appreciate your input, Mart, thanks a million. Harry. > > Mart > > > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uOsE5tW0HHA.5764@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > > news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> Harry wrote :- > >> > >> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the other > >> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. > >> > >> Usually a very good indicator. > >> > >> Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high > > voltages, > >> heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes > >> unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat? > >> > >> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly when I'm > >> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. Seems > > like > >> > the green is missing in the color scheme too. > >> > >> > >> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it > >> > legitimate, > >> > or what? > >> > >> Dunno Harry, sorry. > >> > >> > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. > >> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it shouldn't > > be > >> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? > >> > >> Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - expensive > >> or > >> inexpensive! > >> > >> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. > >> > >> I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old > >> > >> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I find > >> > a > >> > solution. > >> > >> The operative word being 'moment' > > > > That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be > > interfering? > > > >> > >> Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to your > > next > >> PC when your WinMe box finally expires. > >> > >> Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about within > >> it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the > > casing. > > > > No way, Mart, will I do that! > > > >> Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll > >> probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run. > > > > My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it > > should > > be re-ocurring again and again, as before. > > > >> > >> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. > >> > >> How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry? > > Never! > >> > >> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first > > thought. > >> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. > >> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? > >> > >> No > >> > >> > Thanks for your patience, > > > > again, Mart. > > > >> > > >> > Harry. > >> > > >> > >> Mart > >> > >> > >> > > >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > >> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) then > >> >> you're > >> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- > >> >> > >> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm > >> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms > >> >> >> of dry joints) > >> >> > >> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your monitor? > >> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? > >> >> > >> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the > >> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) > >> >> > >> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? > >> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? > >> >> > >> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. > >> >> > >> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - although I'm > >> > still > >> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. (Re: > > gotta > >> >> say.. so long ME) > >> >> > >> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? > >> >> > >> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue with > >> >> your > >> >> monitor being the favourite. > >> >> > >> >> Mart > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> > > >> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message > >> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> Harry, please expand :- > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now > >> >> >> > completely > >> >> >> > missing, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' whilst > > using > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? > >> >> > > >> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of weeks, > > with > >> >> > the > >> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red sporadically, or > >> >> > should > >> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing permanently > >> > from > >> >> > my > >> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? > >> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of my > >> >> > machinery'. > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when you > > are > >> >> > using > >> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red > >> > 'sporadically > >> >> >> changes' under all circumstances? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could be > > due > >> > to > >> >> >> a > >> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might show > > any > >> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the VGA > > cable > >> >> >> ends > >> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! haven't > >> >> >> you > >> >> > just > >> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very > > recently?? > >> >> > > >> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. > >> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working > > properly'. > >> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I find a > > way > >> >> > out. > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Bed time! > >> >> > > >> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mart > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > turn. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now > >> >> >> > completely > >> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' > >> >> >> > with > >> >> > all > >> >> >> > colors present. > >> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue > > purplish. > >> >> >> > Otherwise no changes. > >> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a > >> >> >> > guess). > >> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? > >> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? > >> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Harry. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Heather Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Tinfoil does come to mind.....lol. And what in heck are you still doing up, Mr. Mart?? Are you a night owl like Mike and myself?? Heather "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:uBu5tGX0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Still unconvinced, Harry asked - > >> .... Is it possible that an 'outsider' could be >> interfering? > > Err.. No, Harry, ... No > > Harry, read my lips :- > > Although your Red and Green guns (and perhaps the whole of your > monitor) may not have completely failed just yet (see also Norman's > input regarding life cycles) their associated circuitry would appear > to be causing you 'problems' which YOU should not even attempt to > repair. The fact that (from here, it appears that) your monitor is on > its back with its feet in the air, is a pretty good indication that it > is almost deceased (as in "Dead Parrot") > > You *may* get a few more days, weeks, or even months (of intermittent) > working life. You *may* also think that throwing money at it, might > also help as well as pratting about, but you can be assured that its > (economic) demise is imminent. > > By all means be optimistic, but do also be prepared for the worst > case. Start saving now - it will be 'money in the bank' towards your > next PC/Monitor. Wishful feelings - sadly - don't always repair > computers. > > Bite the bullet, Harry, sooner rather than later. You'll wonder why > you left it so long! > > Mart > > > "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uOsE5tW0HHA.5764@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >> news:%238mRJkU0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Harry wrote :- >>> >>> > To sum it up, Mart, I haven't tried the 'thumping' or any of the >>> > other >>> > interferences, since there is no reason for it to become loose. >>> >>> Usually a very good indicator. >>> >>> Heat, dry joints, component aging, high temperatures, (very) high >> voltages, >>> heat, adjustable resistors (potentiometers) 'wiper contact' becomes >>> unreliable. dust, btw - did I mention heat? >>> >>> > When I started up now, everything is ok., but later on, mostly >>> > when I'm >>> > connected with Yahoo or Google, it will happen again, I'm sure. >>> > Seems >> like >>> > the green is missing in the color scheme too. >>> >>> >>> > Happen to notice an ISP Installer - ISP6300 along the way. Is it >>> > legitimate, >>> > or what? >>> >>> Dunno Harry, sorry. >>> >>> > Cannot find specific connections to any of my programs. >>> > My monitor going south is the most likely cause, but then it >>> > shouldn't >> be >>> > going back to normal, as it did now, should it? >>> >>> Intermittent faults are a sure sign of an impending failure - >>> expensive or >>> inexpensive! >>> >>> > The model is an NEC MultiSync 3FGx. >>> >>> I guess that would make it some 8 or more years old >>> >>> > It's still 'good' at the moment and I will hang in there, until I >>> > find a >>> > solution. >>> >>> The operative word being 'moment' >> >> That 'moment' is still good. Is it possible that an 'outsider' could >> be >> interfering? >> >>> >>> Solution? - consider a TFT monitor. You can carry that forward to >>> your >> next >>> PC when your WinMe box finally expires. >>> >>> Whatever you do, DO NOT attempt to open your monitor to play about >>> within >>> it. There are some VERY dangerous voltages floating about under the >> casing. >> >> No way, Mart, will I do that! >> >>> Either get it fixed professionally or buy a new Flat Screen - you'll >>> probably find that the TFT is cheaper in the long run. >> >> My option will be a new one and probably a flat screen at that, if it >> should >> be re-ocurring again and again, as before. >> >>> >>> > Please dont be angry with me for not troubleshooting yet, Mart. >>> >>> How could anyone be angry with you Harry? Frustrated? Maybe, Angry? >> Never! >>> >>> > I may have to eventually and trying another monitor was my first >> thought. >>> > But somehow things seem to point in another direction in my view. >>> > Isn't there a way to manipulate the color scheme? >>> >>> No >>> >>> > Thanks for your patience, >> >> again, Mart. >> >>> > >>> > Harry. >>> > >>> >>> Mart >>> >>> >>> > >>> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >>> > news:uHF1s$O0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >> OK Harry, after eliminating your red-herrings ('scuse the pun) >>> >> then >>> >> you're >>> >> back to my original practical troubleshooting suggestions :- >>> >> >>> >> >> could be due to a failing monitor (a gentle but firm >>> >> >> thump of the monitor might show any symptoms >>> >> >> of dry joints) >>> >> >>> >> Does the colour change if you 'percussion test' (thump!) your >>> >> monitor? >>> >> Have you tried substituting your monitor? >>> >> >>> >> >> OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >>> >> >> VGA cable ends are secured correctly) >>> >> >>> >> Did you confirm the security (tightness) of VGA cable connectors? >>> >> Can you try a spare VGA cable? >>> >> >>> >> >> or a failing/loose Video Card. >>> >> >>> >> You might have to go 'under-the-hood' to check that out - >>> >> although I'm >>> > still >>> >> not sure whether your video card is part of your motherboard. >>> >> (Re: >> gotta >>> >> say.. so long ME) >>> >> >>> >> Have you actually tried any of these troubleshooting tests Harry? >>> >> >>> >> From this distance, it certainly sounds like a hardware issue >>> >> with your >>> >> monitor being the favourite. >>> >> >>> >> Mart >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:OghiqEM0HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >> > >>> >> > "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message >>> >> > news:eLHPi3L0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> Harry, please expand :- >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >>> >> >> > completely >>> >> >> > missing, >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Do you mean that you ONLY see these 'sporadically change' >>> >> >> whilst >> using >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> Properties/Settings utility window? >>> >> > >>> >> > I meant those changes took place previously for a couple of >>> >> > weeks, >> with >>> >> > the >>> >> > color being normal and changing over to missing red >>> >> > sporadically, or >>> >> > should >>> >> > I say 'between each other'? Now the color red is missing >>> >> > permanently >>> > from >>> >> > my >>> >> > color scheme. Doesn't that make it clear enough? >>> >> > Lately I haven't touched anything but the on and off button of >>> >> > my >>> >> > machinery'. >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Or do you really mean that 'under normal conditions' i.e. when >>> >> >> you >> are >>> >> > using >>> >> >> your PC (in Normal Mode), running any application, the red >>> > 'sporadically >>> >> >> changes' under all circumstances? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> If the latter, then VERY unlikely to do with WinZip. But could >>> >> >> be >> due >>> > to >>> >> >> a >>> >> >> failing monitor (a gentle but firm thump of the monitor might >>> >> >> show >> any >>> >> >> symptoms of dry joints) OR a failing Video Cable (Check the >>> >> >> VGA >> cable >>> >> >> ends >>> >> >> are secured correctly) or a failing/loose Video Card - Hey! >>> >> >> haven't >>> >> >> you >>> >> > just >>> >> >> been playing with your AGP - or whatever - Video Card very >> recently?? >>> >> > >>> >> > Everything in that regard was 'hypothetical'. >>> >> > I also checked the Device Manager and everything 'is working >> properly'. >>> >> > For the time being I will have to put up with this, until I >>> >> > find a >> way >>> >> > out. >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Bed time! >>> >> > >>> >> > Sweet dreams ~~~~~~~ >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Mart >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >> >> news:e4CshoL0HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also >>> >> >> > where to >>> >> >> > turn. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now >>> >> >> > completely >>> >> >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to >>> >> >> > 'normal' >>> >> >> > with >>> >> > all >>> >> >> > colors present. >>> >> >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue >> purplish. >>> >> >> > Otherwise no changes. >>> >> >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a >>> >> >> > guess). >>> >> >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >>> >> >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >>> >> >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Harry. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Mike M Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote: > Tinfoil does come to mind.....lol. And what in heck are you still > doing up, Mr. Mart?? Are you a night owl like Mike and myself?? You rang? <g> -- Mike M
Guest Heirloom Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing All of what has been suggested to date is quite valid.......I would like to add that I had a problem with my existing machine, similar to yours. My screen would turn yellow. I determined it was not the monitor, very easily, by simply turning the monitor on without the cpu and you should get some sort of 'bouncing' message that the monitor has no signal, but, is working properly (or something to that affect). If not, try just turning on the monitor and opening your menu (usually a button in the front or side of the monitor), if the colors are correct, then it is not your monitor! Mine was either a loose video cable at the back of the cpu or the video card was loose. When I 'wiggled' the connection the yellow went away and all was normal and, to date, it has remained such. I still don't know whether it was the cable connection or the seating of the video card. Also, the video cable itself can cause similar problems. You would do well to stick with Mart and Norman's suggestions. Heirloom, old and need to catch some wind "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uKQdv6T0HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message > news:401zpkyz5f1z$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net... >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:54:17 -0400, webster72n wrote: >> >> > If this is the wrong 'forum', please let me know and also where to >> > turn. >> > >> > Since I'm using WinME, I figured it would be worth a try: >> > >> > In Properties/Settings under 'Colors' the color red is now completely >> > missing, while at first it sporadically changed back to 'normal' with > all >> > colors present. >> > This makes the display appear greenish and the former blue purplish. >> > Otherwise no changes. >> > It seemed to coincide with the loss of my 'WinZip' (just a guess). >> > Does this indicate the monitor going bad'? >> > Or is the cause somewhere else? >> > If it can be fixed, please let me know. >> >> Monitors tend to die, after time. Especially the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) >> variety, including TV sets. >> >> I had a ten-year-old Zenith monitor lost the blue gun. >> >> I have a fifteen-year-old Zenith TV which is losing the red gun. > > I'm taking it under advisement, Norman, thank you. <H>. > >> >> -- >> Norman >> ~Shine, bright morning light, >> ~now in the air the spring is coming. >> ~Sweet, blowing wind, >> ~singing down the hills and valleys. > >
Guest Heather Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:OuGd$tX0HHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> Tinfoil does come to mind.....lol. And what in heck are you still >> doing up, Mr. Mart?? Are you a night owl like Mike and myself?? > > You rang? <g> Damn.....I just missed you. Went downstairs to either watch TV or get creative. However, Ron was watching an X-rated Bruce Willis Die Hard movie (Willis only seems to know one cuss word, grin) so I messed around with my inventory, but couldn't seem to get inspired. Guess I had better and then sell them to you for the girls, lol. Elayne has her order(s) in, but I am missing one tiny item for each necklace. Or a toggle or some such. Made a neat pearl trio (necklace, earrings and bracelet) the other night. AFTER I had totally threaded the 22" necklace, I then held it up for Ron to see and promptly let go of one end of the wire.......ARGGHH!! You ever try to find tiny seed pearls on a rug?? Somehow I can't picture you crawling around looking for beads or pearls.....ROFL!! Got em all tho. (colour me cheap as well as blonde) Cheers, Mikey.....and get to bed. XX Figgs
Guest Mike M Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing And you've missed me again. I've just finished editing a large graphic in Photopaint (80+MB) after I don't know how many hours and am now heading for bed. Still waiting for a link to your catalogue. :-) Cheers, Mike Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote: > Damn.....I just missed you. Went downstairs to either watch TV or get > creative. However, Ron was watching an X-rated Bruce Willis Die Hard > movie (Willis only seems to know one cuss word, grin) so I messed > around with my inventory, but couldn't seem to get inspired. Guess I > had better and then sell them to you for the girls, lol. > > Elayne has her order(s) in, but I am missing one tiny item for each > necklace. Or a toggle or some such. Made a neat pearl trio > (necklace, earrings and bracelet) the other night. AFTER I had > totally threaded the 22" necklace, I then held it up for Ron to see > and promptly let go of one end of the wire.......ARGGHH!! You ever > try to find tiny seed pearls on a rug?? Somehow I can't picture you > crawling around looking for beads or pearls.....ROFL!! Got em all > tho. (colour me cheap as well as blonde) > > Cheers, Mikey.....and get to bed. XX Figgs
Guest Heather Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing OK.....I will take some more photos tomorrow and upload them to Yahoo. Only have 5 on there now and have made more. Night.....Heather (PhotoPAINT??....Photoshop??) Hey, Elayne is the expert, not me. "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message news:eT06T5Y0HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > And you've missed me again. I've just finished editing a large > graphic in Photopaint (80+MB) after I don't know how many hours and am > now heading for bed. > > Still waiting for a link to your catalogue. :-) > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> Damn.....I just missed you. Went downstairs to either watch TV or >> get >> creative. However, Ron was watching an X-rated Bruce Willis Die Hard >> movie (Willis only seems to know one cuss word, grin) so I messed >> around with my inventory, but couldn't seem to get inspired. Guess I >> had better and then sell them to you for the girls, lol. >> >> Elayne has her order(s) in, but I am missing one tiny item for each >> necklace. Or a toggle or some such. Made a neat pearl trio >> (necklace, earrings and bracelet) the other night. AFTER I had >> totally threaded the 22" necklace, I then held it up for Ron to see >> and promptly let go of one end of the wire.......ARGGHH!! You ever >> try to find tiny seed pearls on a rug?? Somehow I can't picture you >> crawling around looking for beads or pearls.....ROFL!! Got em all >> tho. (colour me cheap as well as blonde) >> >> Cheers, Mikey.....and get to bed. XX Figgs >
Guest Mike M Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote: > OK.....I will take some more photos tomorrow and upload them to Yahoo. > Only have 5 on there now and have made more. > > Night.....Heather (PhotoPAINT??....Photoshop??) Hey, Elayne is the > expert, not me. Yes, Corel PhotoPaint rather than Adobe PhotoShop. Looking forward to seeing some pics. I doubt however that I will be able to afford your prices. :-) -- Mike M
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Sounds fun, is this my birthday present <vbg> and I have loads of seed beads and bugle in different colours and yes I'd go down looking for them <g> Joan Heather wrote: > > Damn.....I just missed you. Went downstairs to either watch TV or get > creative. However, Ron was watching an X-rated Bruce Willis Die Hard > movie (Willis only seems to know one cuss word, grin) so I messed > around with my inventory, but couldn't seem to get inspired. Guess I > had better and then sell them to you for the girls, lol. > > Elayne has her order(s) in, but I am missing one tiny item for each > necklace. Or a toggle or some such. Made a neat pearl trio > (necklace, earrings and bracelet) the other night. AFTER I had > totally threaded the 22" necklace, I then held it up for Ron to see > and promptly let go of one end of the wire.......ARGGHH!! You ever > try to find tiny seed pearls on a rug?? Somehow I can't picture you > crawling around looking for beads or pearls.....ROFL!! Got em all > tho. (colour me cheap as well as blonde) > > Cheers, Mikey.....and get to bed. XX Figgs
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing You'll be lucky if you see any I'm still waiting for holiday photos to appear <g> Joan Mike M wrote: > Heather <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> OK.....I will take some more photos tomorrow and upload them to >> Yahoo. Only have 5 on there now and have made more. >> >> Night.....Heather (PhotoPAINT??....Photoshop??) Hey, Elayne is the >> expert, not me. > > Yes, Corel PhotoPaint rather than Adobe PhotoShop. > > Looking forward to seeing some pics. I doubt however that I will be > able to afford your prices. :-)
Guest Joan Archer Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing <lol> Have you been at the chilli again <g> Joan Heirloom wrote: > Heirloom, old and need to catch > some wind > >
Guest Mart Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Re: The Color 'Red' is missing Hi HL, Harry's saga reminds me of the old dear who sat and watched her television whos screen only worked in all shades of blue for years. Then one of her grandchildren commented that there was something funny about the picture on this old black and white telly and shouldn't she buy a new colour one. "Don't be silly," she said, "this _is_ a colour set and its been working perfectly for years!" Some people will watch anything. Mart
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