Guest RJK Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 ....yeah ...yeah ...yeah, ....I've waded through aumha.org Shutdown problems, and Google'd and read..half the day, tweaked bios settings and rebooted, it feels, a THOUSAND times, (it must add up to at LEAST half a day), and I've stuffed in and ripped out EVERY SINGLE lump of driver forceware that NVIDIA ever produced !! ...so pleeeeeeeeeeez, I am simply posting in the hope that someone has hit a VERY similar problem on VERY similar hardware, ....I'm getting a bit too old to spend more than most of a whole day problem solving this s*****g thing ! :-) What makes it really annoying, of course, is that I can easily live without "hibernate" but, that would be admitting defeat ...wouldn't it ? ! :-) My problem is that when I "hibernate" the thing, I get the blue progress bar, (while ram is written to hiberfil.sys), and that's where it stays and hangs, ....with the completed blue progress bar on a black background... FOREVER ! ....anyhoooo ,...here it is :- XP Home ed. SP2B fully MS updated, in a freshly slapped together system, (stuffed into my old £160 Lian-Li P60 case, which the VERY next week PLUMMETED down to £60, ..******** ...mutter ...mutter ! ....I digress ), :- ....new Seasonic 430w S12 II psu, Asrock Conroe865PE skt 775 mobo Pentium D935 (both older but cheap :-) 2x512mb's Crucial ddr 400 (dual channel working), 2 hd's on IDE1 - master and slave, dvd rewriter and cd rewriter on IDE2 - master and slave, Nvidia 6200 agp, 3 1/4" floppy drive, SB Audigy2 in pci slot 2, Intel 537EP in pci slot 4, (pci slots 1,3, & 5 empty...particularly 5 in case the damned thing was shared with a rear ATX USB port !) Now, in the AMI Megatrends bios, which I reflashed to "39V040B/FB_V2" .....< ROFL ...have you ever seen anything like it !!! > in the stupid hope there was microcode correction for my problem, ....well I couldn't tell ! ....nothing is documented at Asrock, bios version no. is in a different format to that of the downloads, and what's on screen in the bios itself ...well, they all do that !, ...and almost all the labels in the bios refer to things I've never heard of during the past 25 years in micros. e.g. a "Power Management" label is nowhere to be seen ! there is no sign of APM or a STR1, 2 or 3 !!! ....oh , there's lots of "AUTO" 's !!! In "Chipset Configuration, (in bios), thee's a "No execute Mem. Protection" !!!! .....I wonder if that's the same as the software DEN implementation in XP ? ...... ....there's a "Bypass access" ....what the struuuuUUUUth is that ? ....there's also a "Flexibility option" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....and a "Suspend to RAM" ...AHAH ! when I enable that one, a label with STR appears, as if like magic ! ....oooooh! and down at the bottomn of that screen there's a "ACPI HET table" that I can enable or disable, ...mmmm ....I wonder if that was anything to do with hyperthreading ....another several reboots to see if changes to any of thos will sort itt !! ....oh well, ...more "no's" OOOOh! for the days when one could choose, (in old PcChips BIOS "Assign IRQ to VGA" and all of one power management problems and woes just vanished, RIGHT before your eyes :-) !!! ....oops, I have gone on a bit, ....anyway, I hope I've amused just a little, ...any ideas on solving this PC hanging at Hibernat gladly accepted ! :-) ...btw, I have tried MS Q146092 changing "WaitToKillServiceTimeout" from 20m seconds to 30 seconds (30000 milliseconds), ..no change ! TIA, ...regards, Richard
Guest Kelly Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: Shut down (hibernate) problem :-) Not amused, Richard. That being said....check what is running in the background. -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OwB347R0HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > ...yeah ...yeah ...yeah, ....I've waded through aumha.org Shutdown > problems, and Google'd and read..half the day, tweaked bios settings and > rebooted, it feels, a THOUSAND times, (it must add up to at LEAST > half a day), and I've stuffed in and ripped out EVERY SINGLE lump of > driver > forceware that NVIDIA ever produced !! ...so pleeeeeeeeeeez, I am simply > posting in the hope that someone has hit a VERY similar problem on VERY > similar hardware, ....I'm getting a bit too old to spend more than most > of > a whole day problem solving this s*****g thing ! :-) > What makes it really annoying, of course, is that I can easily live > without > "hibernate" but, that would be admitting defeat ...wouldn't it ? ! :-) > > My problem is that when I "hibernate" the thing, I get the blue progress > bar, (while ram is written to hiberfil.sys), and that's where it stays and > hangs, ....with the completed blue progress bar on a black background... > FOREVER ! > > ...anyhoooo ,...here it is :- > > XP Home ed. SP2B fully MS updated, in a freshly slapped together system, > (stuffed into my old £160 Lian-Li P60 case, which the VERY next week > PLUMMETED > down to £60, ..******** ...mutter ...mutter ! ....I digress ), :- > > ...new Seasonic 430w S12 II psu, > Asrock Conroe865PE skt 775 mobo > Pentium D935 (both older but cheap :-) > 2x512mb's Crucial ddr 400 (dual channel working), > 2 hd's on IDE1 - master and slave, dvd rewriter and cd rewriter on IDE2 - > master and slave, > Nvidia 6200 agp, > 3 1/4" floppy drive, > SB Audigy2 in pci slot 2, > Intel 537EP in pci slot 4, (pci slots 1,3, & 5 > empty...particularly 5 in case the damned thing was shared with a rear ATX > USB port !) > > Now, in the AMI Megatrends bios, which I reflashed to "39V040B/FB_V2" > ....< ROFL ...have you ever seen anything like it !!! > in the stupid > hope > there was microcode correction for my problem, ....well I couldn't tell ! > ...nothing is documented at Asrock, bios version no. is in a different > format to that of > the downloads, and what's on screen in the bios itself ...well, they all > do that !, ...and almost all the labels in the bios refer to things I've > never heard of during the past 25 years in micros. e.g. a "Power > Management" label is nowhere to be seen ! > there is no sign of APM or a STR1, 2 or 3 !!! > ...oh , there's lots of "AUTO" 's !!! > > In "Chipset Configuration, (in bios), thee's a "No execute Mem. > Protection" !!!! > ....I wonder if that's the same as the software DEN implementation in XP ? > ..... > ...there's a "Bypass access" ....what the struuuuUUUUth is that ? > ...there's also a "Flexibility option" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > ...and a "Suspend to RAM" ...AHAH ! when I enable that one, a label with > STR appears, as if like magic ! > ...oooooh! and down at the bottomn of that screen there's a "ACPI HET > table" that I can enable or disable, ...mmmm ....I wonder if that was > anything to do with hyperthreading ....another several reboots to see if > changes to any of thos will sort itt !! ....oh well, ...more "no's" > OOOOh! for the days when one could choose, (in old PcChips BIOS "Assign > IRQ to VGA" and all of one power management problems and woes just > vanished, RIGHT before your eyes :-) !!! > > ...oops, I have gone on a bit, > ...anyway, I hope I've amused just a little, ...any ideas on solving this > PC hanging at Hibernat gladly accepted ! :-) > > ..btw, I have tried MS Q146092 changing "WaitToKillServiceTimeout" from > 20m seconds to 30 seconds (30000 milliseconds), ..no change ! > > TIA, ...regards, Richard > >
Guest RJK Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: Shut down (hibernate) problem :-) Thankyou Kelly, ...and I though I was being a littel humous, I bet you grinned :-) anyhoooo again, I tried almost everything I could think of but haven't yet swapped out psu, ...fed up with it now ! ...I don't think I like it anymore ! regards, Richard "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message news:OnAhplU0HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Not amused, Richard. > > That being said....check what is running in the background. > > -- > > All the Best, > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >
Guest RJK Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: Shut down (hibernate) problem :-) Well for those who may have found just a little humour, in my OP :- ....HOORAY...DUNNIT ...FIXED IT ...all is lovely :-) ....though transferring just 1024mb's of ram memory to hiberfil.sys seemed to take longer than doing a normal shutdown, so I doubt I'll use it, ...after all that frustration and effort ! ....anyway, earlier today I read MS http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315664 "This issue may occur when the selective suspend functionality is enabled on a device that does not support it. This situation may occur when two or more USB-based devices have the same vendor and product identification numbers, and when only one of the devices supports the selective suspend functionality." ....( I think that was a hyperlink at http://www.aumha.org/win5/kbshtdwn.htm ....so ...BIG thanks to Jim Eshelman ) ....and that sort of rang a distant bell. So a little while ago I swapped out my USB wireless kb and mouse for PS2 ones, and BINGO !, my LOVELY .....HONEY ....GORGEOUS ....PRETTY .....PRETTY Seasonic psu went "click/booomf" and powered down at hibernation !! :-) ....I like it now :-) regards, Richard ps ....serves me right for having just the wireless kb transmitter's USB plug plugged in, and it's PS2 "tail," coming off of that same transmitter lead, (intended for mouse PS2 port) dangling doing nothing, because I had a "different "hard wired" optical mouse plugged into a second USB port. .....finally spotted two mice in Device Manager | hardware ...distant bell rang louder. And although not sure now, and I haven't yet spotted mention of it in the 3 page Asrock motherboard manual, OR in the full manual on cd, I suspect there was a conflict going on with a motherboard USB pin header, (going to a 3 1/4" bay card reader), and an ATX rear USB port, because now my card reader is reported as four USB devices / drive letters. Much earlier it was showing just three. <blush> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OEycUNW0HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thankyou Kelly, ...and I though I was being a littel humous, I bet you > grinned :-) > > anyhoooo again, I tried almost everything I could think of but haven't > yet swapped out psu, ...fed up with it now ! ...I don't think I like it > anymore ! > > regards, Richard > > > "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OnAhplU0HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Not amused, Richard. >> >> That being said....check what is running in the background. >> >> -- >> >> All the Best, >> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) >> >> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >> > >
Guest Kelly Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Re: Shut down (hibernate) problem :-) Good for you, Richard! And no, I didn't grin. :o) -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%233%23EcKX0HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Well for those who may have found just a little humour, in my OP :- > ...HOORAY...DUNNIT ...FIXED IT ...all is lovely :-) > ...though transferring just 1024mb's of ram memory to hiberfil.sys seemed > to take longer than doing a normal shutdown, so I doubt I'll use it, > ...after all that frustration and effort ! > > ...anyway, earlier today I read MS > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315664 > "This issue may occur when the selective suspend functionality is enabled > on a device that does not support it. This situation may occur when two or > more USB-based devices have the same vendor and product identification > numbers, and when only one of the devices supports the selective suspend > functionality." > ...( I think that was a hyperlink at > http://www.aumha.org/win5/kbshtdwn.htm ...so ...BIG thanks to Jim > Eshelman ) > > ...and that sort of rang a distant bell. So a little while ago I swapped > out my USB wireless kb and mouse for PS2 ones, and BINGO !, my LOVELY > ....HONEY ....GORGEOUS ....PRETTY .....PRETTY Seasonic psu went > "click/booomf" and powered down at hibernation !! :-) > > ...I like it now :-) > > regards, Richard > > ps > ...serves me right for having just the wireless kb transmitter's USB plug > plugged in, and it's PS2 "tail," coming off of that same transmitter lead, > (intended for mouse PS2 port) dangling doing nothing, because I had a > "different "hard wired" optical mouse plugged into a second USB port. > ....finally spotted two mice in Device Manager | hardware ...distant bell > rang louder. > And although not sure now, and I haven't yet spotted mention of it in the > 3 page Asrock motherboard manual, OR in the full manual on cd, I suspect > there was a conflict going on with a motherboard USB pin header, (going to > a 3 1/4" bay card reader), and an ATX rear USB port, because now my card > reader is reported as four USB devices / drive letters. Much earlier it > was showing just three. > > > > <blush> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OEycUNW0HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Thankyou Kelly, ...and I though I was being a littel humous, I bet you >> grinned :-) >> >> anyhoooo again, I tried almost everything I could think of but haven't >> yet swapped out psu, ...fed up with it now ! ...I don't think I like it >> anymore ! >> >> regards, Richard >> >> >> "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:OnAhplU0HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Not amused, Richard. >>> >>> That being said....check what is running in the background. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> All the Best, >>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) >>> >>> Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! >>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm >>> >> >> > >
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