Guest Thining about it Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Hello . . . I'm using XP SR2 Home EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. It was working when I logged off. - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and then stops again - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try to start EXPLORER in Task Manager - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried rolling back days and then weeks . . . With No Change! - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus - I tried turning them off - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean - I tried starting in VGA mode - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any program or driver listed in the error - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs from Task Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing the Setup . .. . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error message. I only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when searching for that error. I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be OK before EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!!
Guest Kelly Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE Hi, Try doing a rollback for your display drivers via the Device Manager. -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm "Thining about it" <Thining about it@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CA1F7E1C-93BE-4E13-B537-DF27C659E2E3@microsoft.com... > Hello . . . > > I'm using XP SR2 Home > > EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. It was > working when I logged off. > > - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER > - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and then > stops > again > - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu > - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change > - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try to > start EXPLORER in Task Manager > - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried rolling back > days and then weeks . . . With No Change! > - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus > - I tried turning them off > - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean > - I tried starting in VGA mode > - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any program or > driver listed in the error > - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs from Task > Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing the > Setup . > . . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error message. > I > only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when searching for > that error. > > I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be OK > before > EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. > > I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!!
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Re: UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE basically whenever explorer.exe is ran from the task manager, the registry file is reloaded into memory. so it sounds like issues with the registry. however, having zero virtual memory could also cause a similar symptom. try running sysdm.cpl from the task manager and navigate to the virtual memory section and double check your vm size. another fix might be if you have a windows setup cd, simply use it to initiate a repair installation. this method will keep everything you had in windows intact. -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "Thining about it" <Thining about it@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CA1F7E1C-93BE-4E13-B537-DF27C659E2E3@microsoft.com... > Hello . . . > > I'm using XP SR2 Home > > EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. It > was > working when I logged off. > > - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER > - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and then > stops > again > - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu > - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change > - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try to > start EXPLORER in Task Manager > - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried rolling > back > days and then weeks . . . With No Change! > - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus > - I tried turning them off > - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean > - I tried starting in VGA mode > - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any > program or > driver listed in the error > - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs from > Task > Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing the > Setup . > . . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error > message. I > only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when searching > for > that error. > > I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be OK > before > EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. > > I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!!
Guest Thining about it Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE ----- THANKS for the thoughts & Ideas . . . > > basically whenever >explorer.exe is ran from the >task manager, the registry >file is reloaded into memory. >so it sounds like issues with >the registry. ---- That was one reason I figured I could roll-back to an older version of my registry with ERUNT. Normally when all else fails, as long as i don't have damaged system, application program, or other scrambled files, ERUNT will get me back in style & function with little effort. I do an auto BU of my registry every day with ERUNT. I tried both a short . . . (a day or two) and also a restore from a month ago. Neither changed the problem! >however, having >zero virtual memory could >also cause a similar symptom. >try running sysdm.cpl from >the task manager and navigate >to the virtual memory section >and double check your vm size. ------ I didn't know no VM could result in such a problem. I checked it and I have it set for SYSTEM MANAGED SIZE, So I guess that can be ruled out. >another fix might be >if you have a windows setup >cd, simply use it to initiate >a repair installation. this >method will keep everything >you had in windows intact. ------ I tried a REPAIR SETUP already and got a BSOD that didn't list any specific file or other problem file causing it to fail, Just the BSOD. Am I mistaken in my understanding that there is little i can do with the memory location listed on the BSOD screen? It was not some radical informed address, it only had one location that was NOT 0000 etc. I've misplaced the message, but if I remember the only difference was a "6" in the string of 0000's I had saved the repair setup until last and was a little surprised to see a BSOD error with it! Normally, 99% of the time, ERUNT will get me back and running . . . and for those really screwed up ones, a repair setup seems to do what is needed . . . But NOT this time! THANKS FOR YOUR IDEAS!! I'm going to try the video driver removal and reinstall to see what, if any change that makes. "db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." wrote: > basically whenever > explorer.exe is ran from the > task manager, the registry > file is reloaded into memory. > > so it sounds like issues with > the registry. however, having > zero virtual memory could > also cause a similar symptom. > > try running sysdm.cpl from > the task manager and navigate > to the virtual memory section > and double check your vm size. > > another fix might be > if you have a windows setup > cd, simply use it to initiate > a repair installation. this > method will keep everything > you had in windows intact. > > > > -- > > db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. > ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > .. > > > "Thining about it" <Thining about it@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:CA1F7E1C-93BE-4E13-B537-DF27C659E2E3@microsoft.com... > > Hello . . . > > > > I'm using XP SR2 Home > > > > EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. It > > was > > working when I logged off. > > > > - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER > > - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and then > > stops > > again > > - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu > > - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change > > - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try to > > start EXPLORER in Task Manager > > - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried rolling > > back > > days and then weeks . . . With No Change! > > - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus > > - I tried turning them off > > - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean > > - I tried starting in VGA mode > > - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any > > program or > > driver listed in the error > > - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs from > > Task > > Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing the > > Setup . > > . . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error > > message. I > > only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when searching > > for > > that error. > > > > I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be OK > > before > > EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. > > > > I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!!
Guest Thining about it Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE Kelly . . . ---- THANKS for your answer to my post! I have found your scripts valuable now and then for strange problems. No luck this time though. ----- Your idea on the video drivers was the same place my thinking is heading. I thought starting in SAFE or VGA mode would rule out video driver problems?? I didn't want to do VIDEO DRIVER until I ruled out all my "simple" .. . . (Simple?? - <Grin>) options. My experiance with video drivers . . . unless I use the tool to do a complete removal of all traces of the drivers, reboot and reinstall, I still have the same or worse problems. I have a NVIDIA GFORCE card in now. I found no matter if it is a NVIDIA or ATI card, unless I use great care to remove all traces of old/existing drivers before adding a new one, and also use great care in finding the right version that makes my system happy . . . I just create new problems or don't solve my existing one. I guess I'll try the rollback first, and have a new driver file ready if i cause worse problems. THANKS!! I'll post my results. thinking . . . . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Kelly" wrote: > Hi, > > Try doing a rollback for your display drivers via the Device Manager. > > -- > > All the Best, > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm ------ I tried the TASKBAR repair tool on your site, with the thinking it might give me a cluie if not fix the problem. No change though. > "Thining about it" <Thining about it@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:CA1F7E1C-93BE-4E13-B537-DF27C659E2E3@microsoft.com... > > Hello . . . > > > > I'm using XP SR2 Home > > > > EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. It was > > working when I logged off. > > > > - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER > > - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and then > > stops > > again > > - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu > > - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change > > - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try to > > start EXPLORER in Task Manager > > - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried rolling back > > days and then weeks . . . With No Change! > > - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus > > - I tried turning them off > > - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean > > - I tried starting in VGA mode > > - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any program or > > driver listed in the error > > - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs from Task > > Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing the > > Setup . > > . . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error message. > > I > > only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when searching for > > that error. > > > > I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be OK > > before > > EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. > > > > I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!! > > >
Guest Thining about it Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Re: STILL UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE Re: STILL UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE Kelly . . . I tried rolling back my video driver with noo luck. I then did a complete uninstall of the NVIDIA driver and installed the latest video driver. NO LUCK STILL! What am I missing? -It boots OK and lets me enter my PW as usual -But all I get is a blank desktop and no taskbar or start menu -explorer.exe is not running and can't be started from the TASK MANAGER - The windows key also fails to bring the start menu What has to happen . . . (or what does happen) . . . between the time I log on and the desktop should appear? -I DO get the DESKTOP background color being the correct color set for my desktop, just nothing on it. -How can I trouble-shoot this problem further? THANKS AGAIN! "Thinking about it" wrote: > Kelly . . . > > ---- THANKS for your answer to my post! I have found your scripts valuable > now and then for strange problems. No luck this time though. > > ----- Your idea on the video drivers was the same place my thinking is > heading. I thought starting in SAFE or VGA mode would rule out video driver > problems?? I didn't want to do VIDEO DRIVER until I ruled out all my "simple" > . . . (Simple?? - <Grin>) options. My experiance with video drivers . . . > unless I use the tool to do a complete removal of all traces of the drivers, > reboot and reinstall, I still have the same or worse problems. > I have a NVIDIA GFORCE card in now. I found no matter if it is a > NVIDIA or ATI card, unless I use great care to remove all traces of > old/existing drivers before adding a new one, and also use great care in > finding the right version that makes my system happy . . . I just create new > problems or don't solve my existing one. > I guess I'll try the rollback first, and have a new driver file ready if i > cause worse problems. > > THANKS!! I'll post my results. > > thinking . . . . > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Kelly" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Try doing a rollback for your display drivers via the Device Manager. > > > > -- > > > > All the Best, > > Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) > > > > Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm > > ------ I tried the TASKBAR repair tool on your site, with the thinking it > might give me a cluie if not fix the problem. No change though. > > > "Thining about it" <Thining about it@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > > message news:CA1F7E1C-93BE-4E13-B537-DF27C659E2E3@microsoft.com... > > > Hello . . . > > > > > > I'm using XP SR2 Home > > > > > > EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. It was > > > working when I logged off. > > > > > > - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER > > > - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and then > > > stops > > > again > > > - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu > > > - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change > > > - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try to > > > start EXPLORER in Task Manager > > > - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried rolling back > > > days and then weeks . . . With No Change! > > > - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus > > > - I tried turning them off > > > - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean > > > - I tried starting in VGA mode > > > - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any program or > > > driver listed in the error > > > - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs from Task > > > Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing the > > > Setup . > > > . . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error message. > > > I > > > only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when searching for > > > that error. > > > > > > I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be OK > > > before > > > EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. > > > > > > I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!! > > > > > >
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Re: UNABLE to run EXPLORER.EXE basically, as eluded in my initial response, this seems to be an issue of low resources. notwithstanding, you might simply want to do a windows installation repair. if you choose this method i would uninstall your video card. you can install it after your o.s. is functional again. however, you can run a system file checker beforehand and see if this simply resolve your issue. to do this, insert your windows cd, press the winkey+r to open run, then type sfc /scannow then wait and see and let us know.... -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "Thining about it" <Thiningaboutit@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EEE19EAC-5EE5-41A0-BB22-0E2D967862D2@microsoft.com... > ----- THANKS for the thoughts & Ideas . . . > >> basically whenever >>explorer.exe is ran from the >>task manager, the registry >>file is reloaded into memory. >>so it sounds like issues with >>the registry. > > ---- That was one reason I figured I could roll-back to an older > version of > my registry with ERUNT. Normally when all else fails, as long as i > don't have > damaged system, application program, or other scrambled files, ERUNT > will get > me back in style & function with little effort. I do an auto BU of my > registry every day with ERUNT. I tried both a short . . . (a day or > two) and > also a restore from a month ago. Neither changed the problem! > >>however, having >>zero virtual memory could >>also cause a similar symptom. > >>try running sysdm.cpl from >>the task manager and navigate >>to the virtual memory section >>and double check your vm size. > > ------ I didn't know no VM could result in such a problem. I checked > it and > I have it set for SYSTEM MANAGED SIZE, So I guess that can be ruled > out. > >>another fix might be >>if you have a windows setup >>cd, simply use it to initiate >>a repair installation. this >>method will keep everything >>you had in windows intact. > > ------ I tried a REPAIR SETUP already and got a BSOD that didn't list > any > specific file or other problem file causing it to fail, Just the BSOD. > Am I > mistaken in my understanding that there is little i can do with the > memory > location listed on the BSOD screen? It was not some radical informed > address, > it only had one location that was NOT 0000 etc. I've misplaced the > message, > but if I remember the only difference was a "6" in the string of > 0000's > I had saved the repair setup until last and was a little surprised > to see > a BSOD error with it! Normally, 99% of the time, ERUNT will get me > back and > running . . . and for those really screwed up ones, a repair setup > seems to > do what is needed . . . But NOT this time! > > THANKS FOR YOUR IDEAS!! I'm going to try the video driver removal > and > reinstall to see what, if any change that makes. > "db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." wrote: > >> basically whenever >> explorer.exe is ran from the >> task manager, the registry >> file is reloaded into memory. >> >> so it sounds like issues with >> the registry. however, having >> zero virtual memory could >> also cause a similar symptom. >> >> try running sysdm.cpl from >> the task manager and navigate >> to the virtual memory section >> and double check your vm size. >> >> another fix might be >> if you have a windows setup >> cd, simply use it to initiate >> a repair installation. this >> method will keep everything >> you had in windows intact. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >> ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> >> .. >> >> >> "Thining about it" <Thining about it@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >> in >> message news:CA1F7E1C-93BE-4E13-B537-DF27C659E2E3@microsoft.com... >> > Hello . . . >> > >> > I'm using XP SR2 Home >> > >> > EXPLORER.EXE failed to start when I logged back on to my system. >> > It >> > was >> > working when I logged off. >> > >> > - I can only run programs from TASK MANAGER >> > - When I try running EXPLORER.EXE, it flashes the taskbar and >> > then >> > stops >> > again >> > - I Have NO taskbar, desktop or Start Menu >> > - Starting in SAFE mode makes no change >> > - I have NO error showing in the event log . . . EVEN when I try >> > to >> > start EXPLORER in Task Manager >> > - I keep regular BU's of my registry with ERUNT. I tried >> > rolling >> > back >> > days and then weeks . . . With No Change! >> > - I use Keypass firewall & AVG Anti Virus >> > - I tried turning them off >> > - I scanned the system for spyware etc. . . . Clean >> > - I tried starting in VGA mode >> > - I tried doing a repair SETUP of XP and got a BSOD W/O any >> > program or >> > driver listed in the error >> > - After several days of trouble-shooting & running programs >> > from >> > Task >> > Manager, The ONLY error I have had other then the BSOD when doing >> > the >> > Setup . >> > . . I was trying to rename a folder and got a VERCLSID.EXE error >> > message. I >> > only got it once and downloaded the Update that I found when >> > searching >> > for >> > that error. >> > >> > I'm out of ideas. What is the sequence of events that must be >> > OK >> > before >> > EXPLORER runs? Something deep seems to be canceling it's starting. >> > >> > I could REALLY use some thoughts on this problem. THANK YOU!! >
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