Guest MEB Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future... Best do some actual networking research so you get a better understanding of how all this works.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall even | if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. | side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the | hardware firewall in the router. I have tested it at a few sites including | the grc.com shields up test. | | "MEB" wrote: | | > | > | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... | > | Dan wrote: | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I see | > | > nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster Audigy and | > | > Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from | > | > 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I | > | > posted the error message and it had to do with Windows Media Player | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error message | > | > again later | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help. | > | > | > | You still should use a software firewall. | > | | > | | > | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he gets | > whacked.. | > | > | > | >
Guest MEB Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get hacked or | whacked.. see you sometime in the future... | Best do some actual networking research so you get a better understanding | of how all this works.. | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ | | | "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message | news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... | | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall | even | | if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP | Pro. | | side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the | | hardware firewall in the router. I have tested it at a few sites | including | | the grc.com shields up test. | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | > | | > | | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message | | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... | | > | Dan wrote: | | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through but I | see | | > | > nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound Blaster Audigy | and | | > | > Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from | | > | > 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I | | > | > posted the error message and it had to do with Windows Media Player | | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps | | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the error | message | | > | > again later | | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will help. | | > | > | | > | You still should use a software firewall. | | > | | | > | | | > | | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he | gets | | > whacked.. | | > | | > | | > | | > | |
Guest PCR Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition MEB wrote: | Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you | have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now | | HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH | HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ | | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... || Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get || hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future... || Best do some actual networking research so you get a better || understanding of how all this works.. || -- || MEB || http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com || ________ || || || "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message || news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... || | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software || | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the || | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has || | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the || | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com || | shields up test. || | || | "MEB" wrote: || | || | > || | > || | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message || | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... || | > | Dan wrote: || | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through || | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound || | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I || | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it || | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error || | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player || | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps || | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the || | > | > error message again later || | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will || | > | > help. || | > | > || | > | You still should use a software firewall. || | > | || | > | || | > || | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again || | > when he gets whacked.. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Dan wrote: | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D: | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have uninstalled | Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side. Also, I have | unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and 98SE side. I have | checked extensively for viruses, spyware, adware, etc. and only | turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try and reinstall the Sound | Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me one error message and I am | clueless as to what this might mean and what to do about it. Well I | just Googled it and it told me it was related to Windows Media Player | which I have. I have Windows Media Player 9 on the 98SE side. | Should I unistall that too? UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too... UnRegMp2.exe Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF Size: 192,512 bytes Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM Ver: 9.00.00.2980 But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is what I usually post for it... I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab. MSVCRT.DLL Desc: Microsoft ® C Runtime Library Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Size: 278,581 bytes Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM Ver: 6.00.8797.0 That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been updated by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6 SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative updates. I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98 ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR, maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for that too, if you want. Here is how to do it in DOS... (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in "C:\Windows\System", thus... C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes (b) "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll" That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there. <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as follows... C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter, instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it to be located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter. So, in my case, the command is... "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll" All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including one after "Base4.cab". | Thanks for the help and patience | everyone. | | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d. | | Registers: | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206 | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0 | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000 | Bytes at CS:EIP: | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48 | Stack dump: | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000 | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074 | 00740072 00690061 | | "PCR" wrote: | |> Dan wrote: |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 XT |> | cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. I get a |> | remote call out error when I try to install the latest Ati 9800 XT |> | from the downloaded driver and control console that comes with the |> | driver. Let me know if you have any more suggestions as I wade |> | through these ones. |> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or connect to |> some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install it? I was |> hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may need to |> allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly empty pages |> without it! |> |> | |> | "PCR" wrote: |> | |> |> Dan wrote: |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE. |> |> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds like |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there! |> |> Nevertheless... |> |> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139 |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows |> |> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck |> |> "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot. |> |> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. |> |> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts too— or |> |> there is a chance you end up with tiny, unreadable fonts! |> |> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or |> |> Display Adapter... |> |> |> |> For the Monitor... |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu) |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab" |> |> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries. |> |> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed |> |> similar to below for the Adapter. That is... |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab. |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next". |> |> © Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next". |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware". |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up |> |> with, after step (4). |> |> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode. |> |> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter... |> |> |> |> .......Quote.......... |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the |> |> system. |> |> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR] |> |> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA |> |> because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before. |> |> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that |> |> you are |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the |> |> correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website of |> |> the company that made your video card. |> |> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP) |> |> .......End....of quote.... |> |> |> |> Also... |> |> ..........Quote................ |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here: |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html |> |> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of |> |> AIDA32....I |> |> suggest Enterprise: |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html |> |> |> |> Everest Free Edition: |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html |> |> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here: |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32 |> |> -- |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |> |> .........EOQ.................... |> |> |> |> | "PCR" wrote: |> |> | |> |> |> Dan wrote: |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue with |> |> |> | the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster Audigy. |> |> |> | After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card drivers then |> |> |> | I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed to go through |> |> |> | PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the advice so far. |> |> |> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed. |> |> |> |> -- |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> |> Should things get worse after this, |> |> PCR |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest MEB Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition No, read it again: DAN: "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software firewall even if you have a router." -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... MEB wrote: | Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you | have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now | | HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH | HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ | | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... || Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get || hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future... || Best do some actual networking research so you get a better || understanding of how all this works.. || -- || MEB || http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com || ________ || || || "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message || news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... || | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software || | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the || | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has || | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the || | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com || | shields up test. || | || | "MEB" wrote: || | || | > || | > || | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message || | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... || | > | Dan wrote: || | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through || | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound || | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I || | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it || | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error || | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player || | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps || | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the || | > | > error message again later || | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will || | > | > help. || | > | > || | > | You still should use a software firewall. || | > | || | > | || | > || | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again || | > when he gets whacked.. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition MEB wrote: | No, read it again: | | DAN: | "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software | firewall even | if you have a router." I don't know, still sounds to me like he uses a software firewall & a hardware one too. That's what you want, right? | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ | | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | MEB wrote: || Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you || have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now || || HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH || HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH | | Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! | || -- || MEB || http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com || ________ || || || "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message || news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... ||| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get ||| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future... ||| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better ||| understanding of how all this works.. ||| -- ||| MEB ||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ||| ________ ||| ||| ||| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message ||| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... ||| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software ||| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the ||| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has ||| | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the ||| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com ||| | shields up test. ||| | ||| | "MEB" wrote: ||| | ||| | > ||| | > ||| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message ||| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... ||| | > | Dan wrote: ||| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through ||| | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound ||| | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I ||| | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it ||| | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error ||| | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player ||| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps ||| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the ||| | > | > error message again later ||| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will ||| | > | > help. ||| | > | > ||| | > | You still should use a software firewall. ||| | > | ||| | > | ||| | > ||| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again ||| | > when he gets whacked.. | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | Should things get worse after this, | PCR | pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest MEB Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Dang guy, read it again::::: DAN [in another segment]: "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the router. " Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls have any use.... oh oh, here it comes again bwahhehhehehehehehehehehhehhahahahahhahhhchchahhdhhrhrhwrhahahhfhdfhhshchxvh xhjh cough heheehe Okay I think I've got it under control again..... hhehehheheeeetsk cough snik, hummm -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:OM0R3At1HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... MEB wrote: | No, read it again: | | DAN: | "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software | firewall even | if you have a router." I don't know, still sounds to me like he uses a software firewall & a hardware one too. That's what you want, right? | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ | | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | MEB wrote: || Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you || have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now || || HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH || HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH | | Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! | || -- || MEB || http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com || ________ || || || "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message || news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... ||| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get ||| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future... ||| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better ||| understanding of how all this works.. ||| -- ||| MEB ||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ||| ________ ||| ||| ||| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message ||| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... ||| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software ||| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the ||| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has ||| | been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the ||| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com ||| | shields up test. ||| | ||| | "MEB" wrote: ||| | ||| | > ||| | > ||| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message ||| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... ||| | > | Dan wrote: ||| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went through ||| | > | > but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I removed Sound ||| | > | > Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE and XP Pro. I ||| | > | > have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it ||| | > | > since I have a hardware firewall. I posted the error ||| | > | > message and it had to do with Windows Media Player ||| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps ||| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the ||| | > | > error message again later ||| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will ||| | > | > help. ||| | > | > ||| | > | You still should use a software firewall. ||| | > | ||| | > | ||| | > ||| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again ||| | > when he gets whacked.. | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | Should things get worse after this, | PCR | pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Buffalo Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition PCR wrote: > MEB wrote: >> Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you >> have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now >> >> HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH >> HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH > > Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! At first I thought Meb was laughing at me for suggesting to use a software firewall besides a hardware one. > " "Buffalo" < > You still should use a software firewall. Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he gets whacked.." Dan said that he was still using a software firewall in XP but that he had uninstalled it in Win98se. "I have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall." "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the router." Yes, it was a little bit confusing.
Guest PCR Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Buffalo wrote: | PCR wrote: |> MEB wrote: |>> Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you |>> have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now |>> |>> HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH |>> HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH |> |> Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! | | At first I thought Meb was laughing at me for suggesting to use a | software firewall besides a hardware one. Apparently, no-- he agrees with the position! |> " "Buffalo" < |> You still should use a software firewall. | | Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again when he | gets whacked.." | | Dan said that he was still using a software firewall in XP but that | he had uninstalled it in Win98se. Ooops, yea, I see that now. | "I have removed Zone Alarm from | 98SE since I don't need it since I have a hardware firewall." | "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. | side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the | hardware firewall in the router." | | Yes, it was a little bit confusing. Yep. OK, thanks for the clarification! I see it now. It really all depends how good or configurable the router firewall is as to whether the software one is necessary, I think. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest PCR Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition MEB wrote: | Dang guy, read it again::::: | | DAN [in another segment]: | "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. | side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the | hardware firewall in the router. " | | Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls | have any use.... OK, Buffalo straightened me out. But, it really depends on how configurable Dan's particular hardware firewall is. If as configurable as Kerio, then he only needs that one, I think! | oh oh, here it comes again | | bwahhehhehehehehehehehehhehhahahahahhahhhchchahhdhhrhrhwrhahahhfhdfhhshchxvh | xhjh cough heheehe | | Okay I think I've got it under control again..... hhehehheheeeetsk | cough snik, hummm | | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ | | | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:OM0R3At1HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | MEB wrote: || No, read it again: || || DAN: || "LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software || firewall even || if you have a router." | | I don't know, still sounds to me like he uses a software firewall & a | hardware one too. That's what you want, right? | || -- || MEB || http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com || ________ || || || "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message || news:OlOMs7r1HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... || MEB wrote: ||| Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after you ||| have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now ||| ||| HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHEHHEHEHEHAHHAHHH ||| HAHHSHDHDHHA WHWHHWHWHHWHOOOOOAOOAOAOOAOOAHHH || || Huh? He said he DOES use a software firewall even having a router! || ||| -- ||| MEB ||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ||| ________ ||| ||| ||| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message ||| news:evmKLcr1HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... |||| Okay Dan, excuse me if I laugh out loud maniacally when you get |||| hacked or whacked.. see you sometime in the future... |||| Best do some actual networking research so you get a better |||| understanding of how all this works.. |||| -- |||| MEB |||| http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com |||| ________ |||| |||| |||| "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message |||| news:0D836E39-A99E-4E79-A5FC-7E2B693EB6FC@microsoft.com... |||| | LOL, yeah I bought the hype about the importance of a software |||| | firewall even if you have a router. Anyway, I still use the |||| | software firewall with XP Pro. side as a backup even though it |||| | has been uneeded so far because of the hardware firewall in the |||| | router. I have tested it at a few sites including the grc.com |||| | shields up test. |||| | |||| | "MEB" wrote: |||| | |||| | > |||| | > |||| | > "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message |||| | > news:fK-dnZYwJ8btdS7bnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com... |||| | > | Dan wrote: |||| | > | > Well, I tried replying with 98SE and it said it went |||| | > | > through but I see nothing posted here about it yet. I |||| | > | > removed Sound Blaster Audigy and Radeon 9800 XT from 98SE |||| | > | > and XP Pro. I have removed Zone Alarm from 98SE since I |||| | > | > don't need it since I have a hardware firewall. I posted |||| | > | > the error message and it had to do with Windows Media |||| | > | > Player |||| | > | > 9. I posted the error message in full and perhaps |||| | > | > the filter thought it was spam. Anyway, I can post the |||| | > | > error message again later |||| | > | > when installing the Sound Blaster Audigy on 98SE if it will |||| | > | > help. |||| | > | > |||| | > | You still should use a software firewall. |||| | > | |||| | > | |||| | > |||| | > Another one who bought the sales hype.. we'll see him again |||| | > when he gets whacked.. || || -- || Thanks or Good Luck, || There may be humor in this post, and, || Naturally, you will not sue, || Should things get worse after this, || PCR || pcrrcp@netzero.net | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | Should things get worse after this, | PCR | pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest 98 Guy Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition MEB wrote: > Oh wait, you won't even KNOW WHEN THAT OCCURS, until way after > you have been, if then... so I guess I can laugh now And I'll be laughing when your software firewall gets deactivated by the next trojan or virus that gets onto your system. By the way MEB, put a little effort into editing your posts. You have the worst etiquette when it comes to participating in a thread. It's a sign of being lazy. Don't be lazy. Quote only the text you're replying to, and delete the rest. Don't drag 3 weeks worth of previous material into your reply.
Guest MEB Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:OUxiLSt1HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... MEB wrote: | Dang guy, read it again::::: | | DAN [in another segment]: | "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. | side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of the | hardware firewall in the router. " | | Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls | have any use.... >OK, Buffalo straightened me out. But, it really depends on how configurable Dan's particular hardware firewall is. >If as configurable as Kerio, then he only needs that one, I think! I would ask the most viable question: WHAT the heck would make you think a router can be configured any where NEAR as tightly as a software firewall regarding software/applications UNLESS the router includes its own software firewall, but then we are hijacking a discussion, and you haven't finished your studies. The TRUELY SAD aspect of this all, is: Dan has found and formed this opinion; through supposed people he apparently trusted; that a FRIGGING router is the same as, OR BETTER, than a software firewall, and provides sufficient protection for his system... and that, apparently from the News Groups here [Microsoft] and its members and where ever else they post, and/or elsewhere... Now one of these occurred: 1. He got this from trusted members here, or from trusted members posting somewhere else.. 2. Or he got this elsewhere, and was NOT corrected when he came here. Moreover, he also thinks the Microsoft's XP firewall will provide some sort of protection, should he need it. FACT: Microsoft's XP firewall provides semi-adequate protection ONLY in a *local network* environment. It has built in access points, evidenced by Auto-updates, etc. [blatantly obvious and well known holes, it came with every hacker's XP system - DUH]: and provides little protection for OUTBOUND access or software control. EVERY HACKER knows its defaults, and configuration limits, AND ITS CODE.... Those that claim it is adequate REALLY don't get what does occur while normal users access the Internet, nor do they apparently care. We can likely rate this *routers are all you need while using the Internet*, right up there with advising people to disable their email protection provided by their Anti-virus programs: that's *pure crap* and carrying the smell that goes with that. EVERY little bit or piece you add for your protection is one more piece a hacker, Trojan, virus, or Spyware has to circumvent... http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/vista_net_basic.htm http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/certs_install.htm http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/firewalls.htm http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/spyware.htm http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/antivirus.htm -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest MEB Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's the problem, can't figure it out... need some help.... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest Dan Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract and replace MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest. "PCR" wrote: > Dan wrote: > | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from > | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D: > | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that > | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have uninstalled > | Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side. Also, I have > | unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and 98SE side. I have > | checked extensively for viruses, spyware, adware, etc. and only > | turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try and reinstall the Sound > | Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me one error message and I am > | clueless as to what this might mean and what to do about it. Well I > | just Googled it and it told me it was related to Windows Media Player > | which I have. I have Windows Media Player 9 on the 98SE side. > | Should I unistall that too? > > UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too... > > UnRegMp2.exe > Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility > Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF > Size: 192,512 bytes > Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM > Ver: 9.00.00.2980 > > But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is what I usually post for it... > > I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in > SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab. > > MSVCRT.DLL > Desc: Microsoft ® C Runtime Library > Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > Size: 278,581 bytes > Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM > Ver: 6.00.8797.0 > > That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been updated > by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6 > SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative updates. > > I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98 > ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR, maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for that too, if you want. > > Here is how to do it in DOS... > > (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL > Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in > "C:\Windows\System", thus... > > C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL > 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes > > (b) > "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll" > > That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter > the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there. > > <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as > follows... > > C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS > BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB > 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes > > If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter, > instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it to be > located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter. > > So, in my case, the command is... > > "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab > MSVCRT.dll" > > All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including one > after "Base4.cab". > > | Thanks for the help and patience > | everyone. > | > | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in > | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d. > | > | Registers: > | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206 > | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0 > | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f > | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000 > | Bytes at CS:EIP: > | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48 > | Stack dump: > | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000 > | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074 > | 00740072 00690061 > | > | "PCR" wrote: > | > |> Dan wrote: > |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 XT > |> | cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. I get a > |> | remote call out error when I try to install the latest Ati 9800 XT > |> | from the downloaded driver and control console that comes with the > |> | driver. Let me know if you have any more suggestions as I wade > |> | through these ones. > |> > |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or connect to > |> some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install it? I was > |> hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may need to > |> allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly empty pages > |> without it! > |> > |> | > |> | "PCR" wrote: > |> | > |> |> Dan wrote: > |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the > |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati > |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and > |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the > |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just > |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE. > |> |> > |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like > |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds like > |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there! > |> |> Nevertheless... > |> |> > |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139 > |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows > |> |> > |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck > |> |> "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot. > |> |> > |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from > |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. > |> |> > |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly > |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts tooâ€â€� or > |> |> there is a chance you end up with tiny, unreadable fonts! > |> |> > |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it > |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or > |> |> Display Adapter... > |> |> > |> |> For the Monitor... > |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode > |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu) > |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab" > |> |> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries. > |> |> > |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed > |> |> similar to below for the Adapter. That is... > |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab. > |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next". > |> |> © Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next". > |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware". > |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently > |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up > |> |> with, after step (4). > |> |> > |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode. > |> |> > |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still > |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter... > |> |> > |> |> .......Quote.......... > |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have > |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from > |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" > |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that > |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note > |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the > |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the > |> |> system. > |> |> > |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, > |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select > |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter > |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR] > |> |> > |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic > |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA > |> |> because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing > |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before. > |> |> > |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that > |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that > |> |> you are > |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer > |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the > |> |> correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if > |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website of > |> |> the company that made your video card. > |> |> > |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP) > |> |> .......End....of quote.... > |> |> > |> |> Also... > |> |> ..........Quote................ > |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either > |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here: > |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html > |> |> > |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of > |> |> AIDA32....I > |> |> suggest Enterprise: > |> |> > |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html > |> |> > |> |> Everest Free Edition: > |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html > |> |> > |> |> AIDA32 is also available here: > |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32 > |> |> -- > |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ > |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > |> |> .........EOQ.................... > |> |> > |> |> | "PCR" wrote: > |> |> | > |> |> |> Dan wrote: > |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue with > |> |> |> | the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster Audigy. > |> |> |> | After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card drivers then > |> |> |> | I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed to go through > |> |> |> | PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the advice so far. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed. > |> |> > |> |> -- > |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, > |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, > |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, > |> |> Should things get worse after this, > |> |> PCR > |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net > |> > |> -- > |> Thanks or Good Luck, > |> There may be humor in this post, and, > |> Naturally, you will not sue, > |> Should things get worse after this, > |> PCR > |> pcrrcp@netzero.net > > -- > Thanks or Good Luck, > There may be humor in this post, and, > Naturally, you will not sue, > Should things get worse after this, > PCR > pcrrcp@netzero.net >
Guest Dan Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Hey, no need to be rude to 98 Guy. "MEB" wrote: > Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's the > problem, can't figure it out... need some help.... > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > > >
Guest MEB Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BF74CF47-1370-476B-9634-6FEF39356224@microsoft.com... | Hey, no need to be rude to 98 Guy. | Ah Dan, backup, you apparently haven't been here for awhile... there is a good bit of history... Google if you want to catch up.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________ | "MEB" wrote: | | > Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's the | > problem, can't figure it out... need some help.... | > | > -- | > MEB | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > ________ | > | > | > | >
Guest Dan Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Okay, I will do that when I get a chance. My goal is to get 98SE stable again first. I realize now that my big mistake was when I installed 2 gigabytes of ram to not right away go back to 512 mb's and limit 98SE with msconfig to see only 512 mb's. "MEB" wrote: > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:BF74CF47-1370-476B-9634-6FEF39356224@microsoft.com... > | Hey, no need to be rude to 98 Guy. > | > > Ah Dan, backup, you apparently haven't been here for awhile... there is a > good bit of history... Google if you want to catch up.. > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > > | "MEB" wrote: > | > | > Look limp brain, why don't you finish your hard drive discussion, what's > the > | > problem, can't figure it out... need some help.... > | > > | > -- > | > MEB > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > ________ > | > > | > > | > > | > > > >
Guest PCR Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:05690A47-1F0C-4E79-B19F-9506C5A18C9C@microsoft.com | Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract and | replace MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest. You are welcome. Here is what I post for an over-install of IE, which hopefully would give you a fresh & (nearly?) up-to-date MSVCRT.DLL... Over-install IE. Try first without, but I believe it will request an internet connection. Perhaps it is best to let it connect, actually. If you don't care to get this fancy, just skip to step ©. (a) Turn off interfering programs. Use http://www.pcmag.com/ 's "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2". Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". Note what is unchecked, if anything. Then, go to the General tab & disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking "Load Startup...". Reboot. (b) Perhaps, if you haven't got EndItAll2, then "Ctrl-Alt-Del" & end task all but Explorer & Systray. If this goes badly, start again from top, & skip it next time. © "START, Find, F/F, IE6Setup.exe". Click it in the Find window. NOTE: If you are IE5, then it's "IE5Setup.exe". If there are more than one (I have two each), click the one in "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files" or "C:\Windows Update Setup Files", as applicable. (d) Re-enable the Startup Group. That will automatically check all items. Go to the Startup tab & uncheck any noted in step (a). Reboot. (e) Perhaps go to Windows Update, to see whether it now offers criticals. | "PCR" wrote: | |> Dan wrote: |> | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from |> | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D: |> | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that |> | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have |> | uninstalled Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side. |> | Also, I have unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and |> | 98SE side. I have checked extensively for viruses, spyware, |> | adware, etc. and only turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try |> | and reinstall the Sound Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me |> | one error message and I am clueless as to what this might mean and |> | what to do about it. Well I just Googled it and it told me it was |> | related to Windows Media Player which I have. I have Windows |> | Media Player 9 on the 98SE side. Should I unistall that too? |> |> UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that |> does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too... |> |> UnRegMp2.exe |> Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF |> Size: 192,512 bytes |> Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM |> Ver: 9.00.00.2980 |> |> But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is |> what I usually post for it... |> |> I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in |> SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab. |> |> MSVCRT.DLL |> Desc: Microsoft ® C Runtime Library |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM |> Size: 278,581 bytes |> Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM |> Ver: 6.00.8797.0 |> |> That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been |> updated |> by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6 |> SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative |> updates. |> |> I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98 |> ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR, |> maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for |> that too, if you want. |> |> Here is how to do it in DOS... |> |> (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL |> Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in |> "C:\Windows\System", thus... |> |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM |> MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL |> 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes |> |> (b) |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll" |> |> That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not |> enter |> the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there. |> |> <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as |> follows... |> |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS |> BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB |> 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes |> |> If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter, |> instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it |> to be |> located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter. |> |> So, in my case, the command is... |> |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System |> C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab |> MSVCRT.dll" |> |> All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including |> one |> after "Base4.cab". |> |> | Thanks for the help and patience |> | everyone. |> | |> | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in |> | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d. |> | |> | Registers: |> | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206 |> | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0 |> | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f |> | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000 |> | Bytes at CS:EIP: |> | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48 |> | Stack dump: |> | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000 |> | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074 |> | 00740072 00690061 |> | |> | "PCR" wrote: |> | |> |> Dan wrote: |> |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 |> |> | XT cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. |> |> | I get a remote call out error when I try to install the latest |> |> | Ati 9800 XT from the downloaded driver and control console that |> |> | comes with the driver. Let me know if you have any more |> |> | suggestions as I wade through these ones. |> |> |> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or |> |> connect to some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install |> |> it? I was hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may |> |> need to allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly |> |> empty pages without it! |> |> |> |> | |> |> | "PCR" wrote: |> |> | |> |> |> Dan wrote: |> |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the |> |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati |> |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and |> |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the |> |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just |> |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE. |> |> |> |> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like |> |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds |> |> |> like |> |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there! |> |> |> Nevertheless... |> |> |> |> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139 |> |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows |> |> |> |> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then |> |> |> uncheck "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot. |> |> |> |> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from |> |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. |> |> |> |> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly |> |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts |> |> |> tooâ€â€� or there is a chance you end up with |> |> |> tiny, unreadable fonts! |> |> |> |> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it |> |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or |> |> |> Display Adapter... |> |> |> |> |> |> For the Monitor... |> |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode |> |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu) |> |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager |> |> |> tab" (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries. |> |> |> |> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is |> |> |> installed similar to below for the Adapter. That is... |> |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab. |> |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next". |> |> |> © Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next". |> |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware". |> |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently |> |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up |> |> |> with, after step (4). |> |> |> |> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode. |> |> |> |> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still |> |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter... |> |> |> |> |> |> .......Quote.......... |> |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have |> |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from |> |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" |> |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that |> |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note |> |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the |> |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the |> |> |> system. |> |> |> |> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, |> |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select |> |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter |> |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR] |> |> |> |> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a |> |> |> generic |> |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like |> |> |> VGA because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of |> |> |> installing |> |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before. |> |> |> |> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that |> |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter |> |> |> that |> |> |> you are |> |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your |> |> |> computer |> |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains |> |> |> the correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and |> |> |> see if |> |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website |> |> |> of |> |> |> the company that made your video card. |> |> |> |> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP) |> |> |> .......End....of quote.... |> |> |> |> |> |> Also... |> |> |> ..........Quote................ |> |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run |> |> |> either |> |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here: |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html |> |> |> |> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of |> |> |> AIDA32....I |> |> |> suggest Enterprise: |> |> |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html |> |> |> |> |> |> Everest Free Edition: |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html |> |> |> |> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here: |> |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32 |> |> |> -- |> |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ |> |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |> |> |> .........EOQ.................... |> |> |> |> |> |> | "PCR" wrote: |> |> |> | |> |> |> |> Dan wrote: |> |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue |> |> |> |> | with the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster |> |> |> |> | Audigy. After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card |> |> |> |> | drivers then I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed |> |> |> |> | to go through PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the |> |> |> |> | advice so far. |> |> |> |> |> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed. |> |> |> |> |> |> -- |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> |> |> Should things get worse after this, |> |> |> PCR |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net |> |> |> |> -- |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> |> Should things get worse after this, |> |> PCR |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net |> |> -- |> Thanks or Good Luck, |> There may be humor in this post, and, |> Naturally, you will not sue, |> Should things get worse after this, |> PCR |> pcrrcp@netzero.net -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Buffalo Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F6074399-23FE-42AF-B144-ED6BCBD5D5A4@microsoft.com... > Okay, I will do that when I get a chance. My goal is to get 98SE stable > again first. I realize now that my big mistake was when I installed 2 > gigabytes of ram to not right away go back to 512 mb's and limit 98SE with > msconfig to see only 512 mb's. And don't forget to add the MaxFileCache=512000 line under the [vcache] header in System.ini. (you can also use 524288 instead of 512000) That line should be added in Win98 anyttime you have more than 512MB of memory (ram) installed in Win98. If you install over 1GB , than you may have to limit your ram as you stated above. I use 1GB in Win98SE and it works just fine with the System.ini modification alone.
Guest PCR Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%237w15Kv1HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | news:OUxiLSt1HHA.5532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | MEB wrote: || Dang guy, read it again::::: || || DAN [in another segment]: || "Anyway, I still use the software firewall with XP Pro. || side as a backup even though it has been uneeded so far because of || the hardware firewall in the router. " || || Now really, where did you get the idea Dan thinks software firewalls || have any use.... | |>OK, Buffalo straightened me out. But, it really depends on how |>configurable | Dan's particular hardware firewall is. >If as configurable as Kerio, | then he only needs that one, I think! | | I would ask the most viable question: | WHAT the heck would make you think a router can be configured any | where NEAR as tightly as a software firewall regarding | software/applications UNLESS the router includes its own software | firewall, but then we are hijacking a discussion, and you haven't | finished your studies. Absolutely-- let us not hijack this discussion or become overly emotional &/or derogatory! I agree fully! It's also true I don't know enough about any router to know whether it can ever do as well as Kerio on the day I solidify & finalize my Kerio rules. OK, then. OK, bye! | The TRUELY SAD aspect of this all, is: | Dan has found and formed this opinion; through supposed people he | apparently trusted; that a FRIGGING router is the same as, OR BETTER, | than a software firewall, and provides sufficient protection for his | system... and that, apparently from the News Groups here [Microsoft] | and its members and where ever else they post, and/or elsewhere... | | Now one of these occurred: | | 1. He got this from trusted members here, or from trusted members | posting somewhere else.. | | 2. Or he got this elsewhere, and was NOT corrected when he came here. | | | Moreover, he also thinks the Microsoft's XP firewall will provide | some sort of protection, should he need it. | | FACT: Microsoft's XP firewall provides semi-adequate protection ONLY | in a *local network* environment. | | It has built in access points, evidenced by Auto-updates, etc. | [blatantly obvious and well known holes, it came with every hacker's | XP system - DUH]: and provides little protection for OUTBOUND access | or software control. EVERY HACKER knows its defaults, and | configuration limits, AND ITS CODE.... Those that claim it is | adequate REALLY don't get what does occur while normal users access | the Internet, nor do they apparently care. | | We can likely rate this *routers are all you need while using the | Internet*, right up there with advising people to disable their email | protection provided by their Anti-virus programs: that's *pure crap* | and carrying the smell that goes with that. | | EVERY little bit or piece you add for your protection is one more | piece a hacker, Trojan, virus, or Spyware has to circumvent... | | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/vista_net_basic.htm | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/certs_install.htm | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/firewalls.htm | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/spyware.htm | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/antivirus.htm | | -- | MEB | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | ________ -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest 98 Guy Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition MEB wrote: > I would ask the most viable question: > WHAT the heck would make you think a router can be configured > any where NEAR as tightly as a software firewall regarding ... MEB, pay attention. There are 2 aspects of firewall functionality. 1) Inbound handling of unsolicited data packets 2) Outbound handling of packets from unauthorized or unrecognized local processes. I will refer to these items as #1 and #2 repeatedly below. A NAT-router handles #1 IN ALL CASES, be they TCP or UDP. And it handles this for all computers connected to it on the local LAN. It is very efficient at doing this, and it does it in a secure manner. A NAT-router does not perform #2 because it can't. A software firewall performs both 1 and 2, but only on ONE computer. If you have more than one computer on a local lan, you already have NAT, so you are already protected for #1. Function #1 is a bona-fide protection mechanism that prevents some systems from being comprimized (this almost never applies to windows-98 anyways, but it applied almost 100% to Windows 2K, XP-gold and XP-SP1). Function #1 ->IS<- protection. Function #2 IS NOT protection. Function #2 is an alert mechanism. Unless it's a false alarm, #2 tells you that YOUR SYSTEM IS ALREADY COMPRIMIZED IN SOME WAY. Function #2 is also a pain in the ass to configure and live with. Because function #2 is only provided by a software firewall, it can be deactivated by malware or by inadverdant misconfiguration by the user. In real life, there are always unwanted / unsolicited packets hammering away at your internet connection (item #1) so it's a given that they are more of a threat and should be delt with - moreseo than dealing with #2. It is MORE important to deal with #1 vs #2 - do you agree with that MEB? So how does this affect the average joe internet user? If you were to prioritize the various security appliances, software and settings you could obtain to insure a safe computing experience, the first item on the list is a NAT-router. Even if you have only 1 computer and you don't need the ability to have a local LAN, a nat-router will perform your internet log-in for you and will maintain your internet connection even when your computer is off. This means you don't need to run buggy or troublesome ISP login software, and your IP address will remain fixed for longer periods of time (some may find this useful if you like to operate a web-cam or use PC-Telephone to communicate with friends and family). Once you have a NAT-router, you have item #1 covered. Since I place item #2 far down the list of important functions, I have other items next (like a hosts file, locking down browsers with spybot and spyware blaster, updating JAVA JRE engine, etc). At the bottom I place anti-virus software (it is close to becoming useless these days) and a software firewall (or more specificaly, item #2) at the very bottom (I don't run one, I never have and never will). (I have direct experience with running 10+ win-98 machines directly facing the internet continuously from 1998 to Dec 2005 ->without NAT and without any sort of firewall<- so I am well aware of what win-98 is, and more importantly what it is not vulnerable to.) > Moreover, he also thinks the Microsoft's XP firewall will > provide some sort of protection, should he need it. The software firewall built into XP is ONLY an incoming firewall. It performs function #1 only. Assuming it works correctly at all times, it is exactly equivalent to what a NAT-router does. But because it is a process running on the local machine, it is vulnerable to being tampered with or being deactivated by malware, and for that reason it is inferior to a NAT-router. > We can likely rate this *routers are all you need while using > the Internet*, right up there with advising people to disable > their email protection provided by their Anti-virus programs: > that's *pure crap* and carrying the smell that goes with that. A NAT-router is THE FIRST THING YOU NEED. As I have always said, what you get next are various reinforcements to your system as I mentioned above. A software firewall is not even on my list because it has a negative cost/benefit analysis.
Guest Dan Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Thanks it will be 2 gigabytes of ram. "Buffalo" wrote: > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:F6074399-23FE-42AF-B144-ED6BCBD5D5A4@microsoft.com... > > Okay, I will do that when I get a chance. My goal is to get 98SE stable > > again first. I realize now that my big mistake was when I installed 2 > > gigabytes of ram to not right away go back to 512 mb's and limit 98SE with > > msconfig to see only 512 mb's. > > And don't forget to add the MaxFileCache=512000 line under the [vcache] > header in System.ini. (you can also use 524288 instead of 512000) > That line should be added in Win98 anyttime you have more than 512MB of > memory (ram) installed in Win98. > If you install over 1GB , than you may have to limit your ram as you stated > above. > I use 1GB in Win98SE and it works just fine with the System.ini modification > alone. > > >
Guest Dan Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Thanks PCR!!! I have a total of 3 MSVCRT.DLL --- they are as follows: 1. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\system 2. ver. 6.10.8637.0 ---- located in c:\windows\temp\crfo\drivers\addon 3. ver. 6.00.8397.0 ---- located in c:\program files\creative\sbaudigy\playcenter2 I will proceed to try and reinstall Internet Explorer 6 ---- hopefully that will work. Let me know if I should delete all of these and just replace the top one with the dll from the 98SE cd or something else. Thanks again! "PCR" wrote: > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:05690A47-1F0C-4E79-B19F-9506C5A18C9C@microsoft.com > | Thanks PCR! I will try to reinstall IE6 and also try to extract and > | replace MSVCRT.DLL as you suggest. > > You are welcome. Here is what I post for an over-install of IE, which > hopefully would give you a fresh & (nearly?) up-to-date MSVCRT.DLL... > > Over-install IE. Try first without, but I believe it will request an > internet connection. Perhaps it is best to let it connect, actually. If > you don't care to get this fancy, just skip to step ©. > > (a) Turn off interfering programs. Use http://www.pcmag.com/ 's > "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2". Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". > Note what is unchecked, if anything. Then, go to the General tab & > disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking > "Load Startup...". Reboot. > > (b) Perhaps, if you haven't got EndItAll2, then "Ctrl-Alt-Del" & end > task all but Explorer & Systray. If this goes badly, start again from > top, & skip it next time. > > © "START, Find, F/F, IE6Setup.exe". Click it in the Find window. > > NOTE: If you are IE5, then it's "IE5Setup.exe". If there are more > than one (I have two each), click the one in "C:\WINDOWS\Windows > Update Setup Files" or "C:\Windows Update Setup Files", as applicable. > > (d) Re-enable the Startup Group. That will automatically check all > items. Go to the Startup tab & uncheck any noted in step (a). Reboot. > > (e) Perhaps go to Windows Update, to see whether it now offers > criticals. > > | "PCR" wrote: > | > |> Dan wrote: > |> | Okay, I am trying to fix everything now just in case anything from > |> | the XP side corrupted the 98 side. Although, the XP side is on D: > |> | and the 98SE is on C: there still may have been something that > |> | slipped from D: to C: because of user (my error). I have > |> | uninstalled Sound Blaster Audigy from both XP side and 98SE side. > |> | Also, I have unistalled Ati Radeon 9800XT from both XP side and > |> | 98SE side. I have checked extensively for viruses, spyware, > |> | adware, etc. and only turned up 3 tracking cookies. When I try > |> | and reinstall the Sound Blaster Audigy it works but it gives me > |> | one error message and I am clueless as to what this might mean and > |> | what to do about it. Well I just Googled it and it told me it was > |> | related to Windows Media Player which I have. I have Windows > |> | Media Player 9 on the 98SE side. Should I unistall that too? > |> > |> UnRegMp2.exe is part of WMP9. And it sounds like it is the .inf that > |> does the install of it & possibly the uninstall too... > |> > |> UnRegMp2.exe > |> Desc: Microsoft Windows Media Player Setup Utility > |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\INF > |> Size: 192,512 bytes > |> Mod: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08:28 AM > |> Ver: 9.00.00.2980 > |> > |> But I think it more likely is MSVCRT.DLL that is at fault. Here is > |> what I usually post for it... > |> > |> I find (in Win98SE) MSVCRT.DLL is in WIN98_63.CAB. It is also in > |> SETUPW95.CAB, which is an IE5.5 & IE6 SP1 .cab. > |> > |> MSVCRT.DLL > |> Desc: Microsoft ® C Runtime Library > |> Loc: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > |> Size: 278,581 bytes > |> Mod: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:10:40 PM > |> Ver: 6.00.8797.0 > |> > |> That is what mine looks like in Win98SE; apparently, it has been > |> updated > |> by something beyond the Win98 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0) & beyond the IE6 > |> SP1 .cabs (v.6.00.8397.0)-- by likely one of the IE cumulative > |> updates. > |> > |> I GUESS begin with an Extract from your more easily accessible Win98 > |> ..cabs. After that, look to update it by over-installing IE. OR, > |> maybe begin with the over-install of IE-- I have instructions for > |> that too, if you want. > |> > |> Here is how to do it in DOS... > |> > |> (a) DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL > |> Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in > |> "C:\Windows\System", thus... > |> > |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\MSVCRT.DLL > |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM > |> MSVCRT DLL 278,581 04-06-00 8:10p MSVCRT.DLL > |> 1 file(s) 278,581 bytes > |> > |> (b) > |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System <LOC>\Base4.cab MSVCRT.dll" > |> > |> That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not > |> enter > |> the quotes. It will offer to overwite, if one is already there. > |> > |> <LOC> is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as > |> follows... > |> > |> C:\>DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab > |> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS > |> BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB > |> 1 file(s) 168,960 bytes > |> > |> If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter, > |> instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it > |> to be > |> located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter. > |> > |> So, in my case, the command is... > |> > |> "EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows\System > |> C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab > |> MSVCRT.dll" > |> > |> All one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line, including > |> one > |> after "Base4.cab". > |> > |> | Thanks for the help and patience > |> | everyone. > |> | > |> | UNREGMP2 caused an invalid page fault in > |> | module MSVCRT.DLL at 0167:7800fa4d. > |> | > |> | Registers: > |> | EAX=00581000 CS=0167 EIP=7800fa4d EFLGS=00010206 > |> | EBX=005806b4 SS=016f ESP=0056ece0 EBP=0056ecf0 > |> | ECX=005806b4 DS=016f ESI=8007000e FS=3f4f > |> | EDX=0000007b ES=016f EDI=00000104 GS=0000 > |> | Bytes at CS:EIP: > |> | 66 8b 10 83 c0 02 66 85 d2 75 f5 2b c1 d1 f8 48 > |> | Stack dump: > |> | 010142f1 005806b4 00000000 7ffce00c 0056f04c 01014608 00000000 > |> | 005806b4 0056fabc 00000104 00000000 00000208 006e0045 00650074 > |> | 00740072 00690061 > |> | > |> | "PCR" wrote: > |> | > |> |> Dan wrote: > |> |> | Thanks PCR! I also just ordered a replacement Ati Radeon 9800 > |> |> | XT cd from ATI that has both XP drivers and 98 drivers on it. > |> |> | I get a remote call out error when I try to install the latest > |> |> | Ati 9800 XT from the downloaded driver and control console that > |> |> | comes with the driver. Let me know if you have any more > |> |> | suggestions as I wade through these ones. > |> |> > |> |> I can only guess the installation is trying to dial out or > |> |> connect to some WEB site. Are you online when you try to install > |> |> it? I was hoping that site Buffalo posted would solve it. You may > |> |> need to allow Cookies for the site to work-- I'm getting fairly > |> |> empty pages without it! > |> |> > |> |> | > |> |> | "PCR" wrote: > |> |> | > |> |> |> Dan wrote: > |> |> |> | Okay, I am posting this in 98SE! Hooray! I reinstalled the > |> |> |> | sound drivers. However, when I try and reinstall the Ati > |> |> |> | graphics driver, I get a remote call error when I try and > |> |> |> | install the Ati Graphics Driver. I am trying to install the > |> |> |> | Ati driver for 98SE for the Ati 9800 XT and currently am just > |> |> |> | using a basic VGA display for 98SE. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> I am happy for your success with the sound drivers. Looks like > |> |> |> Buffalo came up with a site for the graphics drivers & sounds > |> |> |> like > |> |> |> his is the voice of experience on it. I would go there! > |> |> |> Nevertheless... > |> |> |> > |> |> |> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139 > |> |> |> Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows > |> |> |> > |> |> |> "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then > |> |> |> uncheck "VGA 640x480x16", & reboot. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from > |> |> |> the Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, possibly > |> |> |> click the Advanced button, & select Large fonts > |> |> |> tooâ€â€Â� or there is a chance you end up with > |> |> |> tiny, unreadable fonts! > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it > |> |> |> continues to fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or > |> |> |> Display Adapter... > |> |> |> > |> |> |> For the Monitor... > |> |> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode > |> |> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu) > |> |> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager > |> |> |> tab" (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is > |> |> |> installed similar to below for the Adapter. That is... > |> |> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab. > |> |> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next". > |> |> |> © Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next". > |> |> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware". > |> |> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently > |> |> |> installed. That is likely what you wish to end up > |> |> |> with, after step (4). > |> |> |> > |> |> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still > |> |> |> necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter... > |> |> |> > |> |> |> .......Quote.......... > |> |> |> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have > |> |> |> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from > |> |> |> the drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" > |> |> |> button; and click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that > |> |> |> tells Windows how to deal with a specific video card. Make note > |> |> |> of the adapter that is currently installed. Then, change the > |> |> |> adapter to "Standard Display Adapter (VGA)" and restart the > |> |> |> system. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, > |> |> |> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select > |> |> |> '(Standard display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter > |> |> |> (VGA)' in right pane, click 'Next'"... PCR] > |> |> |> > |> |> |> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a > |> |> |> generic > |> |> |> VGA adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like > |> |> |> VGA because it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of > |> |> |> installing > |> |> |> it is to get rid of whatever was there before. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that > |> |> |> matches your video card. This may or may not be the adapter > |> |> |> that > |> |> |> you are > |> |> |> using now. Examine the materials you received with your > |> |> |> computer > |> |> |> to see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains > |> |> |> the correct video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and > |> |> |> see if > |> |> |> they have an adapter for you to download. Or check the website > |> |> |> of > |> |> |> the company that made your video card. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Bill Starbuck (MVP) > |> |> |> .......End....of quote.... > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Also... > |> |> |> ..........Quote................ > |> |> |> To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run > |> |> |> either > |> |> |> the Everest or Aida32 utility, available here: > |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads9.html > |> |> |> > |> |> |> There are links to both the Personal and Enterprise versions of > |> |> |> AIDA32....I > |> |> |> suggest Enterprise: > |> |> |> > |> |> > http://www.majorgeeks.com/Aida32_-_Enterprise_System_Information_d183.html > |> |> |> > |> |> |> Everest Free Edition: > |> |> |> http://www.majorgeeks.com/EVEREST_Free_Edition_d4181.html > |> |> |> > |> |> |> AIDA32 is also available here: > |> |> |> http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#aida32 > |> |> |> -- > |> |> |> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ > |> |> |> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > |> |> |> .........EOQ.................... > |> |> |> > |> |> |> | "PCR" wrote: > |> |> |> | > |> |> |> |> Dan wrote: > |> |> |> |> | Okay, the video drivers are fine. There may be an issue > |> |> |> |> | with the sound card drivers. It is a Sound Blaster > |> |> |> |> | Audigy. After, I uninstall and reinstall the sound card > |> |> |> |> | drivers then I can eliminate that. Then, I will proceed > |> |> |> |> | to go through PCR's suggestions. Thanks everyone for the > |> |> |> |> | advice so far. > |> |> |> |> > |> |> |> |> You are welcome. Keep us informed. > |> |> |> > |> |> |> -- > |> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck, > |> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and, > |> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue, > |> |> |> Should things get worse after this, > |> |> |> PCR > |> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net > |> |> > |> |> -- > |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
Guest Dan W. Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition PCR wrote: > Dan wrote: > | I am unable to run Windows 98 SE in normal mode. Fortunately, I can > | run it in safe mode. When I try to run Windows 98 SE in normal mode > | then I receive a BSOD (Blue Screen of Death --- grin). The windows > | fatal exception is as follows: > | > | Fatal exception 0D occurred at 0147:0000BC9D > > Well, here is a bunch of articles I always post for that... > > http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB > Search "Fatal Exception 0D"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; turns > up about a page worth, including... > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;150314&Product=w98 > What Are Fatal Exception Errors > (150314) - When you attempt to shut down your computer, start Windows, > or start a program in Windows, you may encounter error messages that are > similar to: A fatal exception XY has occurred at xxxx:xxxxxxxx Fatal > exception errors are codes that are returned by a... > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299976&Product=w98 > "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message When You Start Microsoft Windows 98 > (299976) - When you start Microsoft Windows 98, you may receive error > messages similar to the following ones: A Fatal Exception 0D has > occurred at xxxx:xxxxxx in VxD APIX(01) where xxxx:xxxxxx is a string of > random characters. -or- Invalid vxd dynamic link call... > > It says to replace APIX.vxd. That shouldn't hurt, because it's as old as > they get in my Win98SE... > > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS>dir APIX.VXD > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS > APIX VXD 22,603 09-10-99 7:06a APIX.VXD > 1 file(s) 22,603 bytes > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;133440&Product=w98 > Error Message: This Program Has Caused a Fatal Exception 0D at > 00457:000040B1 and Will Be Terminated > (133440) - When you start Windows, you may receive the following error > message on a blue screen: WINDOWS This program has caused a Fatal > Exception 0D at 00457:000040B1 and will be terminated. Pressing any key > causes the screen to turn black and the computer to... > > It says... "CAUSE: This error message can occur if you are using Adobe > Type Manager with certain video adapter drivers and the Hardware > Acceleration setting is not set to Full." > > That couldn't hurt, either. Perhaps even try the reverse, & turn > Hardware Acceleration off, especially if you are not using ATM. If it > works to turn off Hardware Acceleration, then the video drivers indeed > are suspect, as Philo says. So, overinstall them. I have a larger post > for that, if you want. > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;200444&Product=w98 > "Fatal Exception 0D 03E7:00003497" After Upgrading to Windows 98 > (200444) - After you upgrade to Windows 98, you may receive the > following error message when you start Windows 98 normally: Fatal > Exception 0D 03E7:00003497 > > It says: "To resolve this issue, uninstall the STB Vision software." > > | I have a dual-boot with XP Professional which still works great. > | However, I also want 98SE to work great as well. Thanks for your > | help and I look forward to getting 98SE up and running at full speed. > | > | Well PCR, you were right that eventually XP Pro. would hurt 98SE I > | guess -- grin. > > Aha! That PROVES it! > > | Thanks in advance for all of the help and I am > | looking forward to posting here again via Mozilla Thunderbird on the > | 98SE side of my computer. Gary I hope your health is well and I hope > | all the MVP's here are doing great. > <bottom test reply> Dan here and testing from Windows 98SE machine using Mozilla Thunderbird newsreader. PCR, you were so right. I went ahead and reinstalled Internet Explorer and that really helped a lot. I am still waiting for the ati cd to come in the mail but I am no longer getting blue screens of death. I will begin to recheck things in msconfig startup tab and let you know how things progress.
Guest MEB Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Error message in Windows 98 Second Edition Go finish your hard drive discussion.. Before I spank your ass with the facts on routers... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
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