Guest shegeek72 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I will be upgrading a computer from a gigabyte GA-K8NS MB/AMD 3000+ to a Biostar 6100-M9 939/AMD A64 X2 4200+. According to MS I will need to do a WinXP HE "upgrade": http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125 I've never seen the upgrade option on the XP install disk, just install, repair and the typical safe modes, etc. Am I missing something?
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: new mobo requires XP 'upgrade'? shegeek72 <karmictaragem@2die4.com> wrote: >I will be upgrading a computer from a gigabyte GA-K8NS MB/AMD 3000+ to >a Biostar 6100-M9 939/AMD A64 X2 4200+. According to MS I will need to >do a WinXP HE "upgrade": >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125 > >I've never seen the upgrade option on the XP install disk, just >install, repair and the typical safe modes, etc. Am I missing >something? You're dreaming something. It says you need to do a "repair" install.
Guest Curt Christianson Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: new mobo requires XP 'upgrade'? Hi, Contrary to what Uncle Grumpy says, the article *does* call for an upgrade in scenario 1. I too have never heard of an "upgrade" option, but depending on which method you use to do the XP install, select "upgrade" if it's offered as in example 1, or select "repair" if you follow example 2 in the article. Either way, you're essentially installing XP on top of itself, retaining your settings, data, etc. It is supposed to change the affected hardware settings to reflect the new motherboard only. Also bear in mind you will have to visit Windows Update, as all of the updates prior to SP2 will be history with a "Repair" install. Good luck. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "shegeek72" <karmictaragem@2die4.com> wrote in message news:1185793438.250748.112410@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com... |I will be upgrading a computer from a gigabyte GA-K8NS MB/AMD 3000+ to | a Biostar 6100-M9 939/AMD A64 X2 4200+. According to MS I will need to | do a WinXP HE "upgrade": | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125 | | I've never seen the upgrade option on the XP install disk, just | install, repair and the typical safe modes, etc. Am I missing | something? |
Guest Anna Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: new mobo requires XP 'upgrade'? > "shegeek72" <karmictaragem@2die4.com> wrote in message > news:1185793438.250748.112410@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > |I will be upgrading a computer from a gigabyte GA-K8NS MB/AMD 3000+ to > | a Biostar 6100-M9 939/AMD A64 X2 4200+. According to MS I will need to > | do a WinXP HE "upgrade": > | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125 > | > | I've never seen the upgrade option on the XP install disk, just > | install, repair and the typical safe modes, etc. Am I missing > | something? "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eCJNi$p0HHA.5644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > Contrary to what Uncle Grumpy says, the article *does* call for an upgrade > in scenario 1. > > I too have never heard of an "upgrade" option, but depending on which > method > you use to do the XP install, select "upgrade" if it's offered as in > example > 1, or select "repair" if you follow example 2 in the article. > > Either way, you're essentially installing XP on top of itself, retaining > your settings, data, etc. It is supposed to change the affected hardware > settings to reflect the new motherboard only. Also bear in mind you will > have to visit Windows Update, as all of the updates prior to SP2 will be > history with a "Repair" install. > > Good luck. > -- > HTH, > Curt shegeek72: The information you received from Curt is correct. Either one of the two procedures cited in that MS article will, in effect, be equivalent to a Repair installation of the operating system in your situation. Actually we've encountered a number of instances where a change in motherboards - even extending to a different make & model of motherboard as in your case - did *not* require a Repair installation of the XP OS. The system booted straightaway after the new motherboard was installed without further ado. Obviously the necessary drivers for the new motherboard would need to be installed from the new motherboard's installation CD. Needless to say this is not the common scenario - in nearly every case a Repair (or upgrade) install of the OS would be necessary. I just wanted to add... While there is little likelihood that this upgrade/repair type of process will result in the loss or corruption of existing data, it *is* a possibility. So if there is any data currently on your hard drive that is important enough to you that you could not tolerate its loss, I would strongly advise you to backup that data (assuming it hasn't previously been backed up) before you undertake the motherboard change. Anna
Guest sillyputty Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: new mobo requires XP 'upgrade'? On Jul 30, 5:47 am, "Anna" <myn...@myisp.net> wrote: > shegeek72: > The information you received from Curt is correct. Either one of the two > procedures cited in that MS article will, in effect, be equivalent to a > Repair installation of the operating system in your situation. Actually > we've encountered a number of instances where a change in motherboards - > even extending to a different make & model of motherboard as in your case - > did *not* require a Repair installation of the XP OS. That happened with a previous MB upgrade (from an Intel-compatible MB/ 2.4 ghz CPU to the current gigabyte MB/AMD 3000). The computer booted and didn't require a repair/reinstall. So I was a bit disheartened when I read the MS article. I just did a XP repair and spent hours installing updates, reinstalling software, etc. Your advice about backing up important data is a good one. On a previous XP reinstall a folder I'd named "Backup" on a secondary HD with important games files, some I'd spent hours creating, was gone after the reinstall.
Guest sillyputty Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Re: new mobo requires XP 'upgrade'? Note: I changed my nick from shegeek72 to sillyputty. Sorry about the confusion.
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Re: new mobo requires XP 'upgrade'? shegeek72 wrote: > I will be upgrading a computer from a gigabyte GA-K8NS MB/AMD 3000+ to > a Biostar 6100-M9 939/AMD A64 X2 4200+. According to MS I will need to > do a WinXP HE "upgrade": > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125 > > I've never seen the upgrade option on the XP install disk, just > install, repair and the typical safe modes, etc. Am I missing > something? > Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
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