Guest RC_Moonpie Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 hello all I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. Weird. Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD?
Guest David B. Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer Could possibly be the copy protection scheme used on the disk, some have issues when trying to play on a PC. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... > > > hello all > > I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit > DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. > > Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but > wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. > > Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this > one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins > and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is > nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. > Weird. > > Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? > >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... > > > hello all > > I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit > DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. > > Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but > wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. > > Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this > one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins > and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is > nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. > Weird. > > Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to have signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD players, and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. HTH -pk
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message news:OTRD1LG1HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... >> >> >> hello all >> >> I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit >> DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. >> >> Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but >> wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. >> >> Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this >> one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins >> and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is >> nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. >> Weird. >> >> Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? > > It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to have > signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD players, > and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. > If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo.
Guest David B. Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer Be that as it may, there are still DVD disks that won't play on certain PC drives. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... > > If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the > DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. > > The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification > *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. > >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... > > "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message > news:OTRD1LG1HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... >>> >>> >>> hello all >>> >>> I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit >>> DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. >>> >>> Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but >>> wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. >>> >>> Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this >>> one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins >>> and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is >>> nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. >>> Weird. >>> >>> Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? >> >> It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to have >> signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD players, >> and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. >> > > If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the > DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. > > The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification > *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. That's nice, but the fact is, the signs are there because these shops got enough returns from people who couldn't play the discs on their PCs. It's also quite possible that it's the *drive*, not the *disc* that's at fault. Once again, reality trumps the official rules. -pk
Guest RC_Moonpie Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:39:54 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote: >"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message >news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... >> >> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message >> news:OTRD1LG1HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> hello all >>>> >>>> I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit >>>> DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. >>>> >>>> Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but >>>> wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. >>>> >>>> Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this >>>> one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins >>>> and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is >>>> nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. >>>> Weird. >>>> >>>> Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? >>> >>> It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to have >>> signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD players, >>> and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. >>> >> >> If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the >> DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. >> >> The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification >> *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. > >That's nice, but the fact is, the signs are there because these shops got >enough returns from people who couldn't play the discs on their PCs. > >It's also quite possible that it's the *drive*, not the *disc* that's at >fault. > not in this case, as two different computers, both of which play other DVD movies, just fine, will not even load this disc
Guest David B. Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer It is possible for 2 different computers to have the same model DVD drive in them. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7bs3b390pmicvu51a5limuhvjttqm1cdif@4ax.com... > On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:39:54 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> > wrote: > >>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... >>> >>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message >>> news:OTRD1LG1HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hello all >>>>> >>>>> I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit >>>>> DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but >>>>> wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. >>>>> >>>>> Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this >>>>> one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins >>>>> and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is >>>>> nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. >>>>> Weird. >>>>> >>>>> Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? >>>> >>>> It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to >>>> have >>>> signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD >>>> players, >>>> and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. >>>> >>> >>> If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the >>> DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. >>> >>> The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification >>> *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. >> >>That's nice, but the fact is, the signs are there because these shops got >>enough returns from people who couldn't play the discs on their PCs. >> >>It's also quite possible that it's the *drive*, not the *disc* that's at >>fault. >> > not in this case, as two different computers, both of which play other > DVD movies, just fine, will not even load this disc > >
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:04AE7D55-F349-4A37-AA15-094C9BD4B345@microsoft.com... > Be that as it may, there are still DVD disks that won't play on certain PC > drives. > I understand your point. But the question remains: has the DVD been mastered in such a way that it designed not to play on PC DVD drives, or does it suffer some fault that it won't play on some drives? I have no shortage of premastered DVD disks at home that won't play on some video DVD players but will play on others. There is no indication that they have been mastered that way. Indeed the publishers would be deliberately limiting their market if they did. The lasers used in the optical block of DVD drives has proved itself to be notoriously unreliable. They deteriorate at alarmingly different rates between examples rather than fail catastrophically. I have long held the view that the manufacturers are using lasers that will mostly just last the waranty period - a practice that is actually illegal in the UK (and I believe the rest of Europe). > -- > > ---- > Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > _________________________________________________________________________________ > > > "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message > news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... >> >> If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the >> DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. >> >> The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification >> *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. >> >> >
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7bs3b390pmicvu51a5limuhvjttqm1cdif@4ax.com... > On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:39:54 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> > wrote: > >>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... >>> >>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message >>> news:OTRD1LG1HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> hello all >>>>> >>>>> I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit >>>>> DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but >>>>> wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. >>>>> >>>>> Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this >>>>> one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins >>>>> and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is >>>>> nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. >>>>> Weird. >>>>> >>>>> Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? >>>> >>>> It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to >>>> have >>>> signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD >>>> players, >>>> and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. >>>> >>> >>> If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the >>> DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. >>> >>> The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification >>> *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. >> >>That's nice, but the fact is, the signs are there because these shops got >>enough returns from people who couldn't play the discs on their PCs. >> >>It's also quite possible that it's the *drive*, not the *disc* that's at >>fault. >> > not in this case, as two different computers, both of which play other > DVD movies, just fine, will not even load this disc > It is not incoceivable that both PCs have drives with deteriorating lasers in them. DVD writers seem to be most vulnerable in this regard as the energy levels in the lasing cavity are much higher (while writing). I am not aware of any DVDs that are specifically mastered not to play in a PC DVD drive - though given the paranoia levels amongst DVD producers, one might think they will try. Here in Europe, if you buy a video sold as a 'DVD Video' and it won't play in a PC DVD drive, then you you have statutory right to return it for one that does - or your money back. This issue did arise with Audio discs that *were* designed not to play in PC drives - they were prohibited from marketing them as 'Compact Discs'.
Guest RC_Moonpie Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Re: DVD movie disc won't show up on computer On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:11:07 +0100, "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote: > >"RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:7bs3b390pmicvu51a5limuhvjttqm1cdif@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 10:39:54 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> >> wrote: >> >>>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message >>>news:46b18ca1$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net... >>>> >>>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message >>>> news:OTRD1LG1HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> "RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:mqf1b3lbipnqaukneqhjt41k0cl43prf4b@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hello all >>>>>> >>>>>> I've got a DVD movie i just bought from an online store, it's a legit >>>>>> DVD movie, not a bootleg.... well, it LOOKS legit. Who knows anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, it plays fine in a DVD player connected to a television.. but >>>>>> wont load or show up on two different windows XP computers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Both computers will load and play other DVD movies... just not this >>>>>> one. The disc never even shows up in the computer.. the drive spins >>>>>> and nothing ever happens... go to My Computer, and it shows there is >>>>>> nothing in the drive. Click the drive letter and nothing happens. >>>>>> Weird. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anybody ever seen this? Is it just a bad DVD? >>>>> >>>>> It's common enough that a number of video rental places I've been to >>>>> have >>>>> signs saying that what they rent is intended for standalone DVD >>>>> players, >>>>> and is not guaranteed to work on a DVD drive in a PC. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If that were the case then the DVD video is prohibited from showing the >>>> DVD logo anywhere on the disk or the packaging. >>>> >>>> The DVD logo is a sign that the disc conforms to a rigid specification >>>> *and* that it will play on any equipment that displays the same logo. >>> >>>That's nice, but the fact is, the signs are there because these shops got >>>enough returns from people who couldn't play the discs on their PCs. >>> >>>It's also quite possible that it's the *drive*, not the *disc* that's at >>>fault. >>> >> not in this case, as two different computers, both of which play other >> DVD movies, just fine, will not even load this disc >> > >It is not incoceivable that both PCs have drives with deteriorating lasers >in them. I have no argument with this; I suppose its entirely possible. HOWEVER on another forum, I cant remember which, another XP help forum or possibly a DVD help forum, someone else just posted an almost exact duplicate of my question. Apparently they are wondering the same thing. I suppose its possible they have a computer with a deteriorating laser as well. Its also possible, is it not, that somehow these DVD movies are being sold with some sort of technology or something to prevent being loaded into a computer? not sure, this is pretty interesting to watch unfold tho. thanks to all for your comments
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