Guest Viktor Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Hello I had got a big problem. I just byued some new computers to my company and all of them have winXP x64. The other computers have only the winXP version. When I try to share folders on each computer in my network, computer 1 with XP cant get into the folder on computer 2 (WinXP x64) but computer 2 (WinXP x64) can access computer 1 without any problem. Weird? Both are in the same workgroup and both have specified IP-numbers. No firewall. Is there any problems between XP and XP x64? All the computers can access to internet and also print out documents on the printer wich is connected directly to the router. Can anyone help me or have had a similar problem which have been solved?
Guest Malke Posted August 3, 2007 Posted August 3, 2007 Re: Network - WinXP and WinXP x64 Viktor wrote: > Hello > > I had got a big problem. I just byued some new computers to my company and > all of them have winXP x64. The other computers have only the winXP version. > > When I try to share folders on each computer in my network, computer 1 with > XP cant get into the folder on computer 2 (WinXP x64) but computer 2 (WinXP > x64) can access computer 1 without any problem. Weird? Both are in the same > workgroup and both have specified IP-numbers. No firewall. Is there any > problems between XP and XP x64? All the computers can access to internet and > also print out documents on the printer wich is connected directly to the > router. > > Can anyone help me or have had a similar problem which have been solved? Your file/printer sharing problems have nothing to do with WinXP 32-bit/WinXP 64-bit. You've got something set up wrong. Go through these general networking steps systematically to narrow down the culprit. Since you didn't say whether you have a domain or not, I'm assuming you don't. If you have a domain, some of the following information will apply but you need to come back with more information about your server. Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks: 1. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. 2. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. Even if you don't have Vista, it is more consistent to have everything the same. 3. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm 4. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. 5. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers http://www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Guest AFGuy012799 Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Network - WinXP and WinXP x64 "Malke" wrote: > Your file/printer sharing problems have nothing to do with WinXP > 32-bit/WinXP 64-bit. You've got something set up wrong. Go through these > general networking steps systematically to narrow down the culprit. > Since you didn't say whether you have a domain or not, I'm assuming you > don't. If you have a domain, some of the following information will > apply but you need to come back with more information about your server. > > Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally > caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two > firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party > firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on > all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating > system does not permit it. > > Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks: > > 1. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network > (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing > File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network > Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only > "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you > aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with > "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a > firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually > configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be > 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct > subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. > > 2. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup > didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in > the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control > Panel, Computer Name tab. Even if you don't have Vista, it is more > consistent to have everything the same. > > 3. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you > wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular > user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at > this link work for both XP and Vista: > > Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm > > 4. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: > > a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off > Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user > accounts/passwords on all computers. > > b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the > Simple File Sharing enabled. > > Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means > that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its > resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters > in your situation. > > 5. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' > home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share > folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the > Shared Documents folder. > > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > I don't think he has something set up wrong, as I have the exact same problem, and I have nothing different on either of my systems, and also have previously set up my systems with the tips provided before I searched here, and again when I read your post just to make sure I wasn't missing a step. My x64 machine can access my x32 machine, but not vice versa. My x64 machine will show up in the network places explorer window, but when I click on it to try and access the shares I made, it tells me that it is inaccessible. I know that XP x64 sets some auto-administrative shares, of which the permissions cannot be changed, or even viewed. I don't know if these auto-shares are overriding any other shares made or not though. I can see the shares within the x64 system, just not on the network. I have seen this question posted over at PlanetAMD64 as well, so I have a feeling that all of us can't be setting up something wrong.
Guest AFGuy012799 Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Network - WinXP and WinXP x64 Nevermind, I finally figured it out. For some reason, on the x64 machine, if the Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing service is disabled, shares will not be accessible. However, that same setting on the x32 machine didn't affect whether or not the shares could be accessed. Very strange. I went through the network troubleshooter you posted in another post regarding this topic, and that answered the problem I was having. Thanks, that was a great resource actually. "AFGuy012799" wrote: > "Malke" wrote: > > > > Your file/printer sharing problems have nothing to do with WinXP > > 32-bit/WinXP 64-bit. You've got something set up wrong. Go through these > > general networking steps systematically to narrow down the culprit. > > Since you didn't say whether you have a domain or not, I'm assuming you > > don't. If you have a domain, some of the following information will > > apply but you need to come back with more information about your server. > > > > Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally > > caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two > > firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party > > firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on > > all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating > > system does not permit it. > > > > Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks: > > > > 1. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network > > (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing > > File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network > > Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only > > "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you > > aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with > > "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a > > firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually > > configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be > > 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct > > subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. > > > > 2. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup > > didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in > > the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control > > Panel, Computer Name tab. Even if you don't have Vista, it is more > > consistent to have everything the same. > > > > 3. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you > > wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular > > user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at > > this link work for both XP and Vista: > > > > Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - > > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm > > > > 4. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: > > > > a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off > > Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user > > accounts/passwords on all computers. > > > > b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the > > Simple File Sharing enabled. > > > > Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means > > that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its > > resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters > > in your situation. > > > > 5. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' > > home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share > > folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the > > Shared Documents folder. > > > > > > Malke > > -- > > Elephant Boy Computers > > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com > > "Don't Panic!" > > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > > > I don't think he has something set up wrong, as I have the exact same > problem, and I have nothing different on either of my systems, and also have > previously set up my systems with the tips provided before I searched here, > and again when I read your post just to make sure I wasn't missing a step. My > x64 machine can access my x32 machine, but not vice versa. My x64 machine > will show up in the network places explorer window, but when I click on it to > try and access the shares I made, it tells me that it is inaccessible. I know > that XP x64 sets some auto-administrative shares, of which the permissions > cannot be changed, or even viewed. I don't know if these auto-shares are > overriding any other shares made or not though. I can see the shares within > the x64 system, just not on the network. I have seen this question posted > over at PlanetAMD64 as well, so I have a feeling that all of us can't be > setting up something wrong. >
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