question about setting up a domain

[Guest rebeccatre@gmail.com]

Besides the typical route to register a http://www.xyz domain with a domain

registrar agent, .... how would one as a business actually retain such

control in house server? Where to start/info? :)

[Guest Mathieu CHATEAU]

Re: question about setting up a domain

 

hello,

 

I am not sure this forum is good place for you question... Are you speaking

about an internet domain or a windows domain (Active Directory) ?

 

 

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Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

<rebeccatre@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Besides the typical route to register a http://www.xyz domain with a domain

> registrar agent, .... how would one as a business actually retain such

> control in house server? Where to start/info? :)

>

[Guest rebeccatre@gmail.com]

Re: question about setting up a domain

 

a computer server internet domain ;)

[Guest ThatsIT.net.au]

Re: question about setting up a domain

 

 

<rebeccatre@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>a computer server internet domain ;)

>

>

 

Depends what you mean by control

 

do you want to host a web site for xyz.com? email?

 

or do you want to control DNS?

 

the typical setup would be to name your Active Directory domain as

"xyz.local" or any name for that matter

 

then you would get your internet domain DNS pointed to your ip number.

 

now requests for web pages or emails with be coming to your server.

 

you then need to add xyz.com to your networks DNS server,

 

A host record pointing to web server

and a alias named www pointing to your host you just created

 

and if your using exchange to host your email you need to add xyz to your

recipient policy

 

if you want to control your DNS on the internet you need to create some name

servers and that's not easy.

 

if you want a free internet DNS service try http://editdns.net/

[Guest rebeccatre@gmail.com]

Re: question about setting up a domain

 

> if you want to control your DNS on the internet you need to create some name

> servers and that's not easy.

 

Hi! :) *

This is what I am asking, I believe. In other words, instead of using

NetworkSolutions.com or Tucows.com to handle the aspect they handle

for domains, can I do that instead, and if so, where to start

learning, what is it I am asking terminology wise ;) ?

 

thank you so much :)

[Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: question about setting up a domain

 

rebeccatre@gmail.com wrote:

>> if you want to control your DNS on the internet you need to create

>> some name servers and that's not easy.

>

> Hi! :) *

> This is what I am asking, I believe. In other words, instead of using

> NetworkSolutions.com or Tucows.com to handle the aspect they handle

> for domains, can I do that instead, and if so, where to start

> learning, what is it I am asking terminology wise ;) ?

>

> thank you so much :)

 

You need to register the domain with someone, but then the choice of who

handles:

 

* DNS

* web hosting

* mail

 

is up to you.

 

I wouldn't recommend hosting the public DNS nameservers in house - you need

at least two nameservers, and they shouldn't touch your internal network

infrastructure at all. It's best to leave that outside - I tend to use

DynDNS for their CustomDNS service (and you can use them as the registrar as

well, if you wish).

 

Your public website should also be hosted in a datacenter by a company who

specializes in that sort of thing - it's unwise to bring it in house unless

you have the infrastructure to support it properly (and again, this

shouldn't touch your LAN/WAN at all....for reasons of security and

performance, leave it outside. There are a lot of inexpensive webhosting

companies out there.

 

It's fine to host your domain's email entirely in-house on your own mail

servers.

[Guest ThatsIT.net.au]

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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message

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> rebeccatre@gmail.com wrote:

>>> if you want to control your DNS on the internet you need to create

>>> some name servers and that's not easy.

>>

>> Hi! :) *

>> This is what I am asking, I believe. In other words, instead of using

>> NetworkSolutions.com or Tucows.com to handle the aspect they handle

>> for domains, can I do that instead, and if so, where to start

>> learning, what is it I am asking terminology wise ;) ?

>>

>> thank you so much :)

>

> You need to register the domain with someone, but then the choice of who

> handles:

>

 

you can get me to do that for a small fee

 

> * DNS

 

yes I can do that

> * web hosting

 

yep once again

> * mail

>

 

and again

 

> is up to you.

>

> I wouldn't recommend hosting the public DNS nameservers in house - you

> need at least two nameservers, and they shouldn't touch your internal

> network infrastructure at all. It's best to leave that outside - I tend to

> use DynDNS for their CustomDNS service (and you can use them as the

> registrar as well, if you wish).

 

 

I agree, there is nothing to gain and plenty of pain

 

>

> Your public website should also be hosted in a datacenter by a company who

> specializes in that sort of thing - it's unwise to bring it in house

> unless you have the infrastructure to support it properly (and again, this

> shouldn't touch your LAN/WAN at all....for reasons of security and

> performance, leave it outside. There are a lot of inexpensive webhosting

> companies out there.

>

 

 

I dont agree here.

performance cost is limited and far outweighed by the control you have over

your site

> It's fine to host your domain's email entirely in-house on your own mail

> servers.

 

Agreed

[Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

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ThatsIT.net.au <me@thatsit> wrote:

> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in

> message news:%23$2JF471HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> rebeccatre@gmail.com wrote:

>>>> if you want to control your DNS on the internet you need to create

>>>> some name servers and that's not easy.

>>>

>>> Hi! :) *

>>> This is what I am asking, I believe. In other words, instead of

>>> using NetworkSolutions.com or Tucows.com to handle the aspect they

>>> handle for domains, can I do that instead, and if so, where to start

>>> learning, what is it I am asking terminology wise ;) ?

>>>

>>> thank you so much :)

>>

>> You need to register the domain with someone, but then the choice of

>> who handles:

>>

>

> you can get me to do that for a small fee

 

Well, thanks, but I don't need it done ;-)

>

>

>> * DNS

>

> yes I can do that

>

>> * web hosting

>

> yep once again

>

>> * mail

>>

>

> and again

>

>

>> is up to you.

>>

>> I wouldn't recommend hosting the public DNS nameservers in house -

>> you need at least two nameservers, and they shouldn't touch your

>> internal network infrastructure at all. It's best to leave that

>> outside - I tend to use DynDNS for their CustomDNS service (and you

>> can use them as the registrar as well, if you wish).

>

>

> I agree, there is nothing to gain and plenty of pain

>

>

>>

>> Your public website should also be hosted in a datacenter by a

>> company who specializes in that sort of thing - it's unwise to bring

>> it in house unless you have the infrastructure to support it

>> properly (and again, this shouldn't touch your LAN/WAN at all....for

>> reasons of security and performance, leave it outside. There are a

>> lot of inexpensive webhosting companies out there.

>>

>

>

> I dont agree here.

> performance cost is limited and far outweighed by the control you

> have over your site

 

Unless you have a properly isolated DMZ (your web server should not touch

your LAN at all) and sufficient hardware/redundant power/redundant internet

connectivity and skills to keep it running, this is a bad idea. A shared

datacenter is going to have resources to throw at this sort of thing that a

small office will never be able to achieve.

>

>> It's fine to host your domain's email entirely in-house on your own

>> mail servers.

>

> Agreed

[Guest ThatsIT.net.au]

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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in message

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> ThatsIT.net.au <me@thatsit> wrote:

>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote in

>> message news:%23$2JF471HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> rebeccatre@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>> if you want to control your DNS on the internet you need to create

>>>>> some name servers and that's not easy.

>>>>

>>>> Hi! :) *

>>>> This is what I am asking, I believe. In other words, instead of

>>>> using NetworkSolutions.com or Tucows.com to handle the aspect they

>>>> handle for domains, can I do that instead, and if so, where to start

>>>> learning, what is it I am asking terminology wise ;) ?

>>>>

>>>> thank you so much :)

>>>

>>> You need to register the domain with someone, but then the choice of

>>> who handles:

>>>

>>

>> you can get me to do that for a small fee

>

> Well, thanks, but I don't need it done ;-)

>>

>>

>>> * DNS

>>

>> yes I can do that

>>

>>> * web hosting

>>

>> yep once again

>>

>>> * mail

>>>

>>

>> and again

>>

>>

>>> is up to you.

>>>

>>> I wouldn't recommend hosting the public DNS nameservers in house -

>>> you need at least two nameservers, and they shouldn't touch your

>>> internal network infrastructure at all. It's best to leave that

>>> outside - I tend to use DynDNS for their CustomDNS service (and you

>>> can use them as the registrar as well, if you wish).

>>

>>

>> I agree, there is nothing to gain and plenty of pain

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Your public website should also be hosted in a datacenter by a

>>> company who specializes in that sort of thing - it's unwise to bring

>>> it in house unless you have the infrastructure to support it

>>> properly (and again, this shouldn't touch your LAN/WAN at all....for

>>> reasons of security and performance, leave it outside. There are a

>>> lot of inexpensive webhosting companies out there.

>>>

>>

>>

>> I dont agree here.

>> performance cost is limited and far outweighed by the control you

>> have over your site

>

> Unless you have a properly isolated DMZ (your web server should not touch

> your LAN at all) and sufficient hardware/redundant power/redundant

> internet connectivity and skills to keep it running, this is a bad idea. A

> shared datacenter is going to have resources to throw at this sort of

> thing that a small office will never be able to achieve.

 

I look after a few networks where we run web sites from the office. This

gives the web site the abiulity to be datadrive in real time from the

office.

The web servers are published to external clients thought ISA server and I

have never had any security problems. as for hardware and power, it does not

need much of either to run a web site. this of cause depends on the number

of users of the web site. If you had so many users that you needed to speed

on hardware you would be probably doing enough business to afford it.

As for redundant internet connectivity you have a point, but it has rarly

been a problem.

>

>>

>>> It's fine to host your domain's email entirely in-house on your own

>>> mail servers.

>>

>> Agreed

>

>

>