Guest Gianni Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 I have two usb slots on my PC. I installed a hub into one of them and connected the scanner that was using the PC slot to the hub. Everything worked fine until I tried to run shut down where everything seemed to shut down but the PC wouldn't shut off. I also cannot boot with the hub connected with the scanner. After trying different things, I can shut off and reboot the machine if I unplug the scanner from the hub; I have nothing else connected to it at the moment, but I will in the future. Is this the way it should work, or do I have to do something else? System: 98SE
Guest Augustus Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: usb hub question "Gianni" <gianni@gianni.com> wrote in message news:e24%23ui31HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I have two usb slots on my PC. > I installed a hub into one of them > and connected the scanner that > was using the PC slot to the hub. > Everything worked fine until I tried > to run shut down where everything > seemed to shut down but the PC > wouldn't shut off. > Is this the way it should work, or > do I have to do something else? > > System: 98SE It's not supposed to work that way, but your details are lacking. Could be a motherboard issue, could be the OS. What type and age of system? Win98 was the first OS that had proper USB support. Win95 had it added to it in OSR2.1....but with a flawed driver model. One thing to remember is that the USB device support in Win98, 98SE and ME was in it's early stages. There were only about 100 USB devices tested when implemented by MS in Win98. Either get a USB 2.0 add in card or upgrade.
Guest Gianni Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: usb hub question Augustus wrote: >"Gianni" <gianni@gianni.com> wrote in message >news:e24%23ui31HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > >>I have two usb slots on my PC. >>I installed a hub into one of them >>and connected the scanner that >>was using the PC slot to the hub. >>Everything worked fine until I tried >>to run shut down where everything >>seemed to shut down but the PC >>wouldn't shut off. >>Is this the way it should work, or >>do I have to do something else? >> >>System: 98SE >> >> > >It's not supposed to work that way, but your details are lacking. Could be a >motherboard issue, could be the OS. What type and age of system? Win98 was >the first OS that had proper USB support. Win95 had it added to it in >OSR2.1....but with a flawed driver model. One thing to remember is that the >USB device support in Win98, 98SE and ME was in it's early stages. There >were only about 100 USB devices tested when implemented by MS in Win98. >Either get a USB 2.0 add in card or upgrade. > > > > Thanks for answering. I can't upgrade. When I bought the machine about six years ago, I thought I could have upgraded to the next version of Windows but it turned out that it was not large enough to handle XP. I am preparing to back everything up and do a few other things before I get a new machine. I can live with plugging/unplugging on the top of my desk than getting under the desk to swap connections.
Guest glee Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: usb hub question You're in the wrong forum....this is a WinXP group, and you are using Win98SE. That said, and as Augustus mentioned, you do not supply enough details. What motherboard/chipset is it, or what brand/model computer is it, with what processor? Are the USB ports built into the motherboard, or did you add them later with a USB card? If it is an add-in USB card, what chipset? Go through the procedures here: http://aumha.org/win4/a/shtdwnse.php You may need to install some Win98 USB updates, regardless of the specific issues the articles mention: http://www.usbman.com/win98seusbguide.htm http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q240075/ http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=241134 http://www.usbman.com/Guides/usb_enumeration_problems_on_athl.htm http://www.usbman.com/Drivers%20and%20Patches.htm#Windows http://www.usbman.com/Guides/known_issues.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Gianni" <gianni@gianni.com> wrote in message news:e24%23ui31HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I have two usb slots on my PC. > I installed a hub into one of them > and connected the scanner that > was using the PC slot to the hub. > Everything worked fine until I tried > to run shut down where everything > seemed to shut down but the PC > wouldn't shut off. > > I also cannot boot with the hub > connected with the scanner. > > After trying different things, I can > shut off and reboot the machine if I unplug > the scanner from the hub; I have > nothing else connected to it at the > moment, but I will in the future. > > Is this the way it should work, or > do I have to do something else? > > System: 98SE >
Guest Gianni Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Re: usb hub question glee wrote: > You're in the wrong forum....this is a WinXP group, and you are using > Win98SE. > Sorry and thank you for the other information.
Guest Bogey Man Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: usb hub question "Gianni" <gianni@gianni.com> wrote in message news:e24%23ui31HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I have two usb slots on my PC. > I installed a hub into one of them > and connected the scanner that > was using the PC slot to the hub. > Everything worked fine until I tried > to run shut down where everything > seemed to shut down but the PC > wouldn't shut off. > > I also cannot boot with the hub > connected with the scanner. > > After trying different things, I can > shut off and reboot the machine if I unplug > the scanner from the hub; I have > nothing else connected to it at the > moment, but I will in the future. > > Is this the way it should work, or > do I have to do something else? > > System: 98SE I have never had any luck at all running a scanner through a hub. If I got it to work at all it didn't last long and had to re-install the scanner software with the scanner not hooked up to the hub in the end. -- Ron P Member of the invisible generation
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: usb hub question "Gianni" <gianni@gianni.com> wrote in message news:e24%23ui31HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I have two usb slots on my PC. > I installed a hub into one of them > and connected the scanner that > was using the PC slot to the hub. > Everything worked fine until I tried > to run shut down where everything > seemed to shut down but the PC > wouldn't shut off. > > I also cannot boot with the hub > connected with the scanner. > > After trying different things, I can > shut off and reboot the machine if I unplug > the scanner from the hub; I have > nothing else connected to it at the > moment, but I will in the future. > > Is this the way it should work, or > do I have to do something else? > Scanners often seem to be problematic when run through a hub (any hub - I've tried 3). My own scanner will operate for almost exactly 15 minutes* before freezing the PC. Diconnecting and rebooting fixes this and it will continue until next time I forget to pull the scanner USB port out before the 15 minutes is up. Plugging directly into the root hub does not exhibit this behaviour *I haven't actually timed it, but I'll bet it's the same time every time. I have no idea why.
Guest Gianni Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: usb hub question M.I.5¾ wrote: >"Gianni" <gianni@gianni.com> wrote in message >news:e24%23ui31HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > >>I have two usb slots on my PC. >>I installed a hub into one of them >>and connected the scanner that >>was using the PC slot to the hub. >>Everything worked fine until I tried >>to run shut down where everything >>seemed to shut down but the PC >>wouldn't shut off. >> >>I also cannot boot with the hub >>connected with the scanner. >> >>After trying different things, I can >>shut off and reboot the machine if I unplug >>the scanner from the hub; I have >>nothing else connected to it at the >>moment, but I will in the future. >> >>Is this the way it should work, or >>do I have to do something else? >> >> >> > >Scanners often seem to be problematic when run through a hub (any hub - I've >tried 3). My own scanner will operate for almost exactly 15 minutes* before >freezing the PC. Diconnecting and rebooting fixes this and it will continue >until next time I forget to pull the scanner USB port out before the 15 >minutes is up. Plugging directly into the root hub does not exhibit this >behaviour > >*I haven't actually timed it, but I'll bet it's the same time every time. I >have no idea why. > > > > Thanks for your and Ron's responses. I was able to use the scanner, but I didn't try it for any length of time. The other slot is being used by a printer. If the scanner hangs while I am running it, I will try switching it with the printer. Eventually I will have a DSL modem and some kind of external storage added.
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