Guest oh2oh2 Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) is the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I still get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone explain why is that?
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appearin http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826513 there is some fyi at the above link. sometime using the custom size option might be better for some configuration whereas the initial size/min = 2 and max = (2.5 times the size of your physical ram) -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) > is > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that > virtually > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these > I still > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > explain > why is that?
Guest Jim Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appearin "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) is > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I > still > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > explain > why is that? The message means that the pagefile is too small. Reformatting will not fix such a problem. Consult Help & Support for instructions on controlling te size of the pagefile. Select "system managed". Jim
Guest John Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appearin "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) is > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I > still > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > explain > why is that? Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? If not, set it that way. Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the pagefile? The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC.
Guest oh2oh2 Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, it wwill have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of space available. "John" wrote: > > "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is > > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) is > > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are > > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually > > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I > > still > > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > > explain > > why is that? > > Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? > If not, set it that way. > Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the pagefile? > The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC. > > >
Guest Gerry Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Apart from making more Virtual Memory available the other issue to be resolved is why is the demand for memory so much more than the system been set up fto provide? Is the machine left on 24/7? What programmes are you using when the message appears? Are you using Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes, which precise version? Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information. What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get this information. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ oh2oh2 wrote: > Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, it > wwill have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of space > available. > > "John" wrote: > >> >> "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... >>> My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and >>> is remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). >>> Pc (A) is the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) >>> and docs are installed/kept. Because of the frequently message >>> saying that virtually memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. >>> However, after all these I still >>> get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone >>> explain >>> why is that? >> >> Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? >> If not, set it that way. >> Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the >> pagefile? The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC.
Guest Jim Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:94A8E876-CE6C-4FA4-A0EF-20FEE605AC47@microsoft.com... > Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, it > wwill > have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of space available. Letting the system manage the size of the pagefile means that, as more space is needed, the OS adds it. XP never reduces the size of the pagefile. Jim > > "John" wrote: > >> >> "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... >> > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is >> > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) >> > is >> > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are >> > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually >> > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I >> > still >> > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone >> > explain >> > why is that? >> >> Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? >> If not, set it that way. >> Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the >> pagefile? >> The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC. >> >> >>
Guest oh2oh2 Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe No, the machine is on about 8 hours a day. No specific programmes are been used when the message appears. Is it because there are many programes been "open' such as accounting programes, ms outlook, excel file etc? All these programes are installed in pc A through which pc B access Adobe Acrobat Reader v.7.0 indatlled in the pc As for the Commit Charge - dont have the details now but how do we make use of this information or what must we do to have that reduce/increase etc? CPU processor is Pentium 4 2.8ghz, 512 mb of ram, hdd size 80gb with 86% free space (very sorry OP tech spec is for pc A), windowsupdated.Thanks "Gerry" wrote: > Apart from making more Virtual Memory available the other issue to be > resolved is why is the demand for memory so much more than the system > been set up fto provide? > > Is the machine left on 24/7? > > What programmes are you using when the message appears? > > Are you using Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes, which precise version? > > Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance > Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? > > How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on > your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information. > > What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on > your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get > this information. > > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > oh2oh2 wrote: > > Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, it > > wwill have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of space > > available. > > > > "John" wrote: > > > >> > >> "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > >>> My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and > >>> is remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). > >>> Pc (A) is the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) > >>> and docs are installed/kept. Because of the frequently message > >>> saying that virtually memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. > >>> However, after all these I still > >>> get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > >>> explain > >>> why is that? > >> > >> Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? > >> If not, set it that way. > >> Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the > >> pagefile? The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC. > > >
Guest oh2oh2 Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe I set windows to manage the VM thus I suppose whatever figure is there when I next open it to see, the figures are set by windows thenm thanks "Jim" wrote: > > "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:94A8E876-CE6C-4FA4-A0EF-20FEE605AC47@microsoft.com... > > Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, it > > wwill > > have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of space available. > Letting the system manage the size of the pagefile means that, as more space > is needed, the OS adds it. XP never reduces the size > of the pagefile. > Jim > > > > "John" wrote: > > > >> > >> "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > >> > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is > >> > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) > >> > is > >> > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are > >> > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually > >> > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I > >> > still > >> > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > >> > explain > >> > why is that? > >> > >> Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? > >> If not, set it that way. > >> Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the > >> pagefile? > >> The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC. > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest Gerry Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Having a lot of programmes open could be the problem. Can you provide a list of those usually open? My question about Commit Charge is directed towards comparing memory demand to RAM to be able see what level of pagefile usage is being generated. You could more directly measure usage with pagefilemon. It could also help toward assessing to what extent the machine might benefit from extra RAM. You may find it helpful to know exactly how much of your pagefile is being used. Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it to run immediately after start-up and look at the log at the end of the session.The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe. A small utility to monitor pagefile usage: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm Note programs using undo features particularly those associated with graphics and photo editing require large amounts of memory so if you use this type of programme check these first observing how the page usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases when you close the programme. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ oh2oh2 wrote: > No, the machine is on about 8 hours a day. No specific programmes are > been used when the message appears. Is it because there are many > programes been "open' such as accounting programes, ms outlook, excel > file etc? All these programes are installed in pc A through which pc > B access > > Adobe Acrobat Reader v.7.0 indatlled in the pc > As for the Commit Charge - dont have the details now but how do we > make use of this information or what must we do to have that > reduce/increase etc? > > CPU processor is Pentium 4 2.8ghz, 512 mb of ram, hdd size 80gb with > 86% free space (very sorry OP tech spec is for pc A), > windowsupdated.Thanks > > > "Gerry" wrote: > >> Apart from making more Virtual Memory available the other issue to be >> resolved is why is the demand for memory so much more than the system >> been set up fto provide? >> >> Is the machine left on 24/7? >> >> What programmes are you using when the message appears? >> >> Are you using Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes, which precise version? >> >> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance >> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? >> >> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on >> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this >> information. >> >> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on >> your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get >> this information. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> >> oh2oh2 wrote: >>> Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, >>> it wwill have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of >>> space available. >>> >>> "John" wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... >>>>> My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and >>>>> is remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). >>>>> Pc (A) is the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) >>>>> and docs are installed/kept. Because of the frequently message >>>>> saying that virtually memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. >>>>> However, after all these I still >>>>> get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can >>>>> someone explain >>>>> why is that? >>>> >>>> Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? >>>> If not, set it that way. >>>> Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the >>>> pagefile? The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC.
Guest Gerry Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Having a lot of programmes open could be the problem. Can you provide a list of those usually open? My question about Commit Charge is directed towards comparing memory demand to RAM to be able see what level of pagefile usage is being generated. You could more directly measure usage with pagefilemon. It could also help toward assessing to what extent the machine might benefit from extra RAM. You may find it helpful to know exactly how much of your pagefile is being used. Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it to run immediately after start-up and look at the log at the end of the session.The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe. A small utility to monitor pagefile usage: http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm Note programs using undo features particularly those associated with graphics and photo editing require large amounts of memory so if you use this type of programme check these first observing how the page usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases when you close the programme. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ oh2oh2 wrote: > No, the machine is on about 8 hours a day. No specific programmes are > been used when the message appears. Is it because there are many > programes been "open' such as accounting programes, ms outlook, excel > file etc? All these programes are installed in pc A through which pc > B access > > Adobe Acrobat Reader v.7.0 indatlled in the pc > As for the Commit Charge - dont have the details now but how do we > make use of this information or what must we do to have that > reduce/increase etc? > > CPU processor is Pentium 4 2.8ghz, 512 mb of ram, hdd size 80gb with > 86% free space (very sorry OP tech spec is for pc A), > windowsupdated.Thanks > > > "Gerry" wrote: > >> Apart from making more Virtual Memory available the other issue to be >> resolved is why is the demand for memory so much more than the system >> been set up fto provide? >> >> Is the machine left on 24/7? >> >> What programmes are you using when the message appears? >> >> Are you using Adobe Acrobat Reader? If yes, which precise version? >> >> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance >> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? >> >> How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on >> your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this >> information. >> >> What is your CPU processor speed? How much RAM memory? Right click on >> your My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties to get >> this information. >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Gerry >> ~~~~ >> FCA >> Stourport, England >> Enquire, plan and execute >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >>
Guest oh2oh2 Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe Re: Why vthe message that the virtually memory is low " keeps appe The prog that are usually open are UPS, an accounting software, Excel and Word. "oh2oh2" wrote: > I set windows to manage the VM thus I suppose whatever figure is there when I > next open it to see, the figures are set by windows thenm thanks > > "Jim" wrote: > > > > > "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:94A8E876-CE6C-4FA4-A0EF-20FEE605AC47@microsoft.com... > > > Set to let windows managed the virtually memory but 8upon reboot, it > > > wwill > > > have a definitely define limits. There are plentlky of space available. > > Letting the system manage the size of the pagefile means that, as more space > > is needed, the OS adds it. XP never reduces the size > > of the pagefile. > > Jim > > > > > > "John" wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> "oh2oh2" <oh2oh2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > >> news:5C903067-1819-4D29-8CB0-D9586C3956FA@microsoft.com... > > >> > My pc (B) spec's 1gb ram. dual core 3.0 processor with xp prof and is > > >> > remotely connected to the small network with the other pc (A). Pc (A) > > >> > is > > >> > the main pc were all the programs (such as acounting) and docs are > > >> > installed/kept. Because of the frequently message saying that virtually > > >> > memory is low, my hard disk was reformatted. However, after all these I > > >> > still > > >> > get a message saying the at the Virtually memory is low. Can someone > > >> > explain > > >> > why is that? > > >> > > >> Do you have XP configured to let Windows manage virtual memory? > > >> If not, set it that way. > > >> Do you have at least 2 GB of free space on your hard disk for the > > >> pagefile? > > >> The pagefile will be 1.5 times the RAM that is in the PC. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
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