Guest RJK Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows XP is installed ? I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system size managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. regards, Richard
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown one of the set backs with clearing it at shutdown is that the pc will take a longer time to shut down. also, i noticed you mentioned that yours was 60 megs. this doesn't seem to be an appropriate size unless you have 24 megabyte ram chips installed in your computer. we can review this issue further if you are interesetd... -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 > > Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys > files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows > XP is installed ? > > I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system > size managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. > > regards, Richard >
Guest RJK Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown Thanks for your response, though you might care to reread my OP a little more thoroughly, ...and what Jim Eshelman has to say about optmizing XP at aumha.org , ( i think it was aumha.org ...years ago I spotted it), e.g. set a small fixed swapfile on the boot-drive, because XP wouldn't like there not being one there at all, and the bigger one on the first drive of the 2nd hd. :-) regards, Richard " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%238G12hH2HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > one of the set backs > with clearing it at shutdown > is that the pc will take a longer > time to shut down. > > also, i noticed you mentioned > that yours was 60 megs. > > this doesn't seem to be an > appropriate size unless you > have 24 megabyte ram chips > installed in your computer. > > we can review this issue further > if you are interesetd... > > -- > > db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > . > > > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >> >> Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys >> files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows XP >> is installed ? >> >> I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system size >> managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. >> >> regards, Richard >> >
Guest RJK Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown I've just been reading through some of your posts ! Obviously, and unfortunately, you are an amateur, and should not be giving advice to people when you don't fully understand the ramifications of what you are advising, and indeed the damage your advice could do to other peoples PC's and data !!!! I also am an amateur but, the differrence I suspect is that I've loved PC's and love/hated Windows since they were invented !!! regards, Richard " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:%238G12hH2HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > one of the set backs > with clearing it at shutdown > is that the pc will take a longer > time to shut down. > > also, i noticed you mentioned > that yours was 60 megs. > > this doesn't seem to be an > appropriate size unless you > have 24 megabyte ram chips > installed in your computer. > > we can review this issue further > if you are interesetd... > > -- > > db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > . > > > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >> >> Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys >> files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows XP >> is installed ? >> >> I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system size >> managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. >> >> regards, Richard >> >
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown yeh, i did read your posting regarding the multiple pagefiles you have. i suppose that anyone can set the pagefile as they wish. however, you might see a performance improvement by having 1 pagefile located on the system partition. but it can can also be placed in another partition or hd if necessary. if it seems confusing then setting the pagefile (virtual memory) to automatic mode might be a better way to go. this option was designed into windows by the microsoft software engineers and they know windows from the "inside out". that being said, it is likely that if you have one pagefile, the kb's advice will work. -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OVGxzoH2HHA.5992@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Thanks for your response, though you might care to reread my OP a > little more thoroughly, ...and what Jim Eshelman has to say about > optmizing XP at aumha.org , ( i think it was aumha.org ...years ago I > spotted it), e.g. set a small fixed swapfile on the boot-drive, > because XP wouldn't like there not being one there at all, and the > bigger one on the first drive of the 2nd hd. :-) > > regards, Richard > > > " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." > <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:%238G12hH2HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> one of the set backs >> with clearing it at shutdown >> is that the pc will take a longer >> time to shut down. >> >> also, i noticed you mentioned >> that yours was 60 megs. >> >> this doesn't seem to be an >> appropriate size unless you >> have 24 megabyte ram chips >> installed in your computer. >> >> we can review this issue further >> if you are interesetd... >> >> -- >> >> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> >> . >> >> >> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >>> >>> Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys >>> files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my >>> Windows XP is installed ? >>> >>> I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system >>> size managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. >>> >>> regards, Richard >>> >> > >
Guest RJK Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown The WHOLE idea of having the main swapfile on the first drive of a 2nd hd, is to achieve a possible small gain in performance. Your suggestion of having just one, on the system drive, is the default. Please don't try to be helpful, if simply to trying to demonstrate a "superior" knowledge of Windows, you clearly don't have it ! I've already read through some of your replies to other OP's and quite simply, you'd be better off keeping quiet. i.e. people following some of your advice could end up in serious trouble. regards, Richard " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:u0psGzH2HHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > yeh, i did read your posting > regarding the multiple pagefiles > you have. > > i suppose that anyone can > set the pagefile as they wish. > > however, you might see a > performance improvement > by having 1 pagefile located > on the system partition. but > it can can also be placed > in another partition or hd if necessary. > > if it seems confusing then > setting the pagefile (virtual memory) > to automatic mode might be > a better way to go. this option was designed > into windows by the microsoft software engineers > and they know windows from the "inside out". > > that being said, it is likely that if > you have one pagefile, the kb's advice > will work. > > > > -- > > db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > > > . > > > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OVGxzoH2HHA.5992@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for your response, though you might care to reread my OP a little >> more thoroughly, ...and what Jim Eshelman has to say about optmizing XP >> at aumha.org , ( i think it was aumha.org ...years ago I spotted it), >> e.g. set a small fixed swapfile on the boot-drive, because XP wouldn't >> like there not being one there at all, and the bigger one on the first >> drive of the 2nd hd. :-) >> >> regards, Richard >> >> >> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> >> wrote in message news:%238G12hH2HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> one of the set backs >>> with clearing it at shutdown >>> is that the pc will take a longer >>> time to shut down. >>> >>> also, i noticed you mentioned >>> that yours was 60 megs. >>> >>> this doesn't seem to be an >>> appropriate size unless you >>> have 24 megabyte ram chips >>> installed in your computer. >>> >>> we can review this issue further >>> if you are interesetd... >>> >>> -- >>> >>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >>>> >>>> Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys >>>> files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows >>>> XP is installed ? >>>> >>>> I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system >>>> size managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. >>>> >>>> regards, Richard >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown poor poor fellow, you are miserable indeed.... hope you find company.... -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23lD9U4H2HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > The WHOLE idea of having the main swapfile on the first drive of a 2nd > hd, is to achieve a possible small gain in performance. > Your suggestion of having just one, on the system drive, is the > default. > > Please don't try to be helpful, if simply to trying to demonstrate a > "superior" knowledge of Windows, you clearly don't have it ! > I've already read through some of your replies to other OP's and quite > simply, you'd be better off keeping quiet. > i.e. people following some of your advice could end up in serious > trouble. > > regards, Richard > > > " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." > <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:u0psGzH2HHA.728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> yeh, i did read your posting >> regarding the multiple pagefiles >> you have. >> >> i suppose that anyone can >> set the pagefile as they wish. >> >> however, you might see a >> performance improvement >> by having 1 pagefile located >> on the system partition. but >> it can can also be placed >> in another partition or hd if necessary. >> >> if it seems confusing then >> setting the pagefile (virtual memory) >> to automatic mode might be >> a better way to go. this option was designed >> into windows by the microsoft software engineers >> and they know windows from the "inside out". >> >> that being said, it is likely that if >> you have one pagefile, the kb's advice >> will work. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >> >> >> . >> >> >> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OVGxzoH2HHA.5992@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Thanks for your response, though you might care to reread my OP a >>> little more thoroughly, ...and what Jim Eshelman has to say about >>> optmizing XP at aumha.org , ( i think it was aumha.org ...years ago >>> I spotted it), e.g. set a small fixed swapfile on the boot-drive, >>> because XP wouldn't like there not being one there at all, and the >>> bigger one on the first drive of the 2nd hd. :-) >>> >>> regards, Richard >>> >>> >>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." >>> <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:%238G12hH2HHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> one of the set backs >>>> with clearing it at shutdown >>>> is that the pc will take a longer >>>> time to shut down. >>>> >>>> also, i noticed you mentioned >>>> that yours was 60 megs. >>>> >>>> this doesn't seem to be an >>>> appropriate size unless you >>>> have 24 megabyte ram chips >>>> installed in your computer. >>>> >>>> we can review this issue further >>>> if you are interesetd... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >>>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> >>>> >>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all >>>>> pagefile.sys files on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on >>>>> which my Windows XP is installed ? >>>>> >>>>> I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and >>>>> system size managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard >>>>> disk. >>>>> >>>>> regards, Richard >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Jim Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 > > Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys files > on all drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows XP is > installed ? > > I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system size > managed pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. > > regards, Richard > I would expect that XP would clear the contents of all pagefiles wherever they may be. But, I might be wrong. As another poster noted, the principal effect that I see is that it takes a lot longer to shutdown. The supposed reason for clearing the pagefile is to eliminate residual sensitive information (such as passwords) in the pagefile. I quite frankly see the likelihood of such items laying around as remote. Jim
Guest Mark F. Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OOege%23H2HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > poor poor fellow, > you are miserable indeed.... > > hope you find company.... > > -- > > db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. >><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > After having read some of his other posts, it would appear he'd be better off using his PC rather than tweaking it so much. IMO ~J ---------------------------- (c: Mark
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown Talk about the pot and kettle. I know your history, Richard. I've already blocked Indecipherable, now it's time to block you... Again! -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23lD9U4H2HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... SNIP > Please don't try to be helpful, if simply to trying to demonstrate a > "superior" knowledge of Windows, you clearly don't have it ! > I've already read through some of your replies to other OP's and quite > simply, you'd be better off keeping quiet. > i.e. people following some of your advice could end up in serious trouble. >
Guest glee Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown I don't know for sure, but regarding that setting itself, the late Windows - File Systems MVP Alex Nichol stated: <quote> If you are seriously concerned that someone might then get at the machine and decipher the content of the page file in the hope of getting at very sensitive information, then do so. Not otherwise - it may even result in shutdown hanging and resulting problems with the page file subsequently. </quote> Consequently, I suggest not using the setting in the first place unless you have some rather compelling reason to do so. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OzoeZWH2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 > > Can anyone tell me if switching this on this clears all pagefile.sys files on all > drives, or just the bootdrive / drive on which my Windows XP is installed ? > > I have a fixed size 60mb pagefile on my boot-drive C:\ and system size managed > pagefile on the first drive of my 2nd hard disk. > > regards, Richard >
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:32 -0500, "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote: > The supposed reason for clearing the pagefile is to eliminate residual > sensitive information (such as passwords) > in the pagefile. I quite frankly see the likelihood of such items laying > around as remote. I'm with you entirely. Even if there was any remaining sensitive information left in the page file, finding it and accessing it would be difficult enough that it would be very unlikely that anyone would try. I wonder if all these people who want to clear the page file at shutdown ever leave their machine running while they are not sitting at it. Whatever the risks of someone finding something sensitive in the page file, they would be there at that time too. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Mark F. Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:t8chb3l73r204nagn9i99sc6fl02cbdljc@4ax.com... > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:32 -0500, "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote: > > >> The supposed reason for clearing the pagefile is to eliminate residual >> sensitive information (such as passwords) >> in the pagefile. I quite frankly see the likelihood of such items laying >> around as remote. > > > I'm with you entirely. Even if there was any remaining sensitive > information left in the page file, finding it and accessing it would > be difficult enough that it would be very unlikely that anyone would > try. > > I wonder if all these people who want to clear the page file at > shutdown ever leave their machine running while they are not sitting > at it. Whatever the risks of someone finding something sensitive in > the page file, they would be there at that time too. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup If someone were to get hold of a PC that contained sensitive data on it, clearing the pagefile would not necessarily destroy the data. I have found files on hard drives that have been re-partitioned and reformatted. There have been several articles the subject. Mark
Guest Ron Martell Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote: >I don't know for sure, but regarding that setting itself, the late Windows - File >Systems MVP Alex Nichol stated: > ><quote> >If you are seriously concerned that someone might then get at the >machine and decipher the content of the page file in the hope of getting >at very sensitive information, then do so. Not otherwise - it may even >result in shutdown hanging and resulting problems with the page file >subsequently. ></quote> > >Consequently, I suggest not using the setting in the first place unless you have >some rather compelling reason to do so. Has there ever been a documented instance of someone actually recovering usable information from the pagefile contents? I can't recall ever hearing or reading about one. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown On Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:19:30 -0500, "Mark F." <reply2group@nospam.com> wrote: > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:t8chb3l73r204nagn9i99sc6fl02cbdljc@4ax.com... > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:32 -0500, "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote: > > > > > >> The supposed reason for clearing the pagefile is to eliminate residual > >> sensitive information (such as passwords) > >> in the pagefile. I quite frankly see the likelihood of such items laying > >> around as remote. > > > > > > I'm with you entirely. Even if there was any remaining sensitive > > information left in the page file, finding it and accessing it would > > be difficult enough that it would be very unlikely that anyone would > > try. > > > > I wonder if all these people who want to clear the page file at > > shutdown ever leave their machine running while they are not sitting > > at it. Whatever the risks of someone finding something sensitive in > > the page file, they would be there at that time too. > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > If someone were to get hold of a PC that contained sensitive data on it, > clearing the pagefile would not necessarily destroy the data. I have found > files on hard drives that have been re-partitioned and reformatted. There > have been several articles the subject. Yep! In some instances even if the entire drive has been overwritten with zeros multiple times, data can be recovered. That's why the US government doesn't rely on any software techniques to destroy data when getting rid of drives that contained really sensitive data, but instead physically melts the drive in a furnace. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest RJK Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown ....and just who pulled your chain ? regards, Richard "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23WGIWfJ2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Talk about the pot and kettle. I know your history, Richard. > > I've already blocked Indecipherable, now it's time to block you... Again! > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23lD9U4H2HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > SNIP >> Please don't try to be helpful, if simply to trying to demonstrate a >> "superior" knowledge of Windows, you clearly don't have it ! >> I've already read through some of your replies to other OP's and quite >> simply, you'd be better off keeping quiet. >> i.e. people following some of your advice could end up in serious >> trouble. >> > >
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote: >...and just who pulled your chain ? Looks like YOU did, idjut.
Guest RJK Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown There's nothing I would really need to hide on my hard-disks, I stumbled on http://support.microsoft.com:80/kb/314834 ....and simply HAD to fiddle with it ! ....now that Shutdown time increased, I've turned it off again :-) regards, Richard "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:t8chb3l73r204nagn9i99sc6fl02cbdljc@4ax.com... > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:41:32 -0500, "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote: > > >> The supposed reason for clearing the pagefile is to eliminate residual >> sensitive information (such as passwords) >> in the pagefile. I quite frankly see the likelihood of such items laying >> around as remote. > > > I'm with you entirely. Even if there was any remaining sensitive > information left in the page file, finding it and accessing it would > be difficult enough that it would be very unlikely that anyone would > try. > > I wonder if all these people who want to clear the page file at > shutdown ever leave their machine running while they are not sitting > at it. Whatever the risks of someone finding something sensitive in > the page file, they would be there at that time too. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest glee Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 Re: ClearPageFileAtShutdown "Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ppmhb3png9u9m687853l3712ikugsdmbq5@4ax.com... > "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote: > >>I don't know for sure, but regarding that setting itself, the late Windows - File >>Systems MVP Alex Nichol stated: >> >><quote> >>If you are seriously concerned that someone might then get at the >>machine and decipher the content of the page file in the hope of getting >>at very sensitive information, then do so. Not otherwise - it may even >>result in shutdown hanging and resulting problems with the page file >>subsequently. >></quote> >> >>Consequently, I suggest not using the setting in the first place unless you have >>some rather compelling reason to do so. > > Has there ever been a documented instance of someone actually > recovering usable information from the pagefile contents? I can't > recall ever hearing or reading about one. > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada I've never heard or read of it happening, though apparently it is believed to be possible if you boot for example from a Live CD such as BartsPE or Knoppix. I haven't tried it, and wonder if anyone other than perhaps a spy would bother. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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