Guest Jethro Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 07:16:02 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:qeplb39tcb94jacsbqsok7698uibhlhtaj@4ax.com... >> >> Good Morning! >> >> Since I was getting nowhere, I decided to bite the bullet as they say, >> and I started fresh by installing a virgin copy of XP PRO SP2 on a >> spare hard drive I have - putting on it only what I had to for >> audio-video-networking. I set up sharing etc, using the same >> parameters, namely LEFT etc. >> >> Then I downloaded and installed MS's latest RDC (V6) on LEFT. >> I checked and now I have RDC V6 on both LEFT and RIGHT. You may >> remember that I did not have RDC V6 on LEFT before. It was an earlier >> version for some reason. RIGHT machine always did have V6. >> >> I am back to where I was yesterday now. Namely, I can access and >> change folders & files on both LEFT and RIGHT from either machine. >> But I can only Remote Connect from LEFT to RIGHT, not RIGHT to LEFT. >> >> I do notice one thing on the LEFT machine. Netstat shows very few >> lines showing 'listening', and 3389 is on shown at all. This was also >> true yesterday, but that was with my original hard drive which >> contained all kinds of other stuff. I checked the Registry on LEFT >> machine and found 3389 shown where it is supposed to be. >> >> So whatever is wrong, it is consistent. I have to be missing >> something. >> >> Watchatink? >> >> Jethro > >What I think after that is I don't have the foggiest idea what is going on. That makes two of us. >I was going to suggest a "repair install" on LEFT but your doing a clean >install certainly trumps that. I presume you checked to see if the Terminal >Services service is in fact in a "started" state? Indeed I did - on both machines. All are 'started'. >You might look at the >dependencies tab to see what other services that service needs and check >those. Beyond that I really have no idea other than some process, ie. >anti-virus, anti-worm, etc etc etc...etc is killing the computer from >listening on that port. If you mean killing the computer from listening on LEFT machine, I have no antivirus, anti-anything installed on it. It is 'pure' XP PRO SP2 except for some lan, audio & video drivers. I have no idea why port 3389 is not shown under netstat. And I don't know how to manually put it there. > >As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >automatic login for Remote Desktop? Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me for login/password. Then fails. >This illustrates the group policy that >dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command window to >get there. > >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always PCANYWHERE I guess. Jethro
Guest Jethro Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 07:43:57 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message >news:C3D38F8A-4309-4403-9C7D-C4A59322C100@microsoft.com... >> "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >> news:qeplb39tcb94jacsbqsok7698uibhlhtaj@4ax.com... >>> >>> Good Morning! >>> >>> Since I was getting nowhere, I decided to bite the bullet as they say, >>> and I started fresh by installing a virgin copy of XP PRO SP2 on a >>> spare hard drive I have - putting on it only what I had to for >>> audio-video-networking. I set up sharing etc, using the same >>> parameters, namely LEFT etc. >>> >>> Then I downloaded and installed MS's latest RDC (V6) on LEFT. >>> I checked and now I have RDC V6 on both LEFT and RIGHT. You may >>> remember that I did not have RDC V6 on LEFT before. It was an earlier >>> version for some reason. RIGHT machine always did have V6. >>> >>> I am back to where I was yesterday now. Namely, I can access and >>> change folders & files on both LEFT and RIGHT from either machine. >>> But I can only Remote Connect from LEFT to RIGHT, not RIGHT to LEFT. >>> >>> I do notice one thing on the LEFT machine. Netstat shows very few >>> lines showing 'listening', and 3389 is on shown at all. This was also >>> true yesterday, but that was with my original hard drive which >>> contained all kinds of other stuff. I checked the Registry on LEFT >>> machine and found 3389 shown where it is supposed to be. >>> >>> So whatever is wrong, it is consistent. I have to be missing >>> something. >>> >>> Watchatink? >>> >>> Jethro >> >> What I think after that is I don't have the foggiest idea what is going >> on. I was going to suggest a "repair install" on LEFT but your doing a >> clean install certainly trumps that. I presume you checked to see if the >> Terminal Services service is in fact in a "started" state? You might look >> at the dependencies tab to see what other services that service needs and >> check those. Beyond that I really have no idea other than some process, >> ie. anti-virus, anti-worm, etc etc etc...etc is killing the computer from >> listening on that port. >> >> As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >> automatic login for Remote Desktop? This illustrates the group policy that >> dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command window >> to get there. >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >> >> -- >> >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) >> >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the >> mutual benefit of all of us... >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights... >> How to ask a question >> http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 >> > >Since you have a spare drive on LEFT to play with try this if you have the >time... > >Do a clean install of the OS but don't add any other software like MS >updates or your audio-video stuff. Just enable the basic network, ie. >computer name, workgroup, user ID and password. Make sure you can ping RIGHT >from LEFT and LEFT from RIGHT by static IP. See if you can login to LEFT >from RIGHT with Remote Desktop using the static IP for LEFT. Can do - this PM though. Remember however, right now I can use My Network Places in Windows Explorer to access, change, delete folder and files from LEFT to RIGHT and from RIGHT to LEFT. I can also Ping using static IPs both ways even now.
Guest Jethro Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 07:50:43 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message >news:O$Go0Lo2HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message >> news:C3D38F8A-4309-4403-9C7D-C4A59322C100@microsoft.com... >>> "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>> news:qeplb39tcb94jacsbqsok7698uibhlhtaj@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> Good Morning! >>>> >>>> Since I was getting nowhere, I decided to bite the bullet as they say, >>>> and I started fresh by installing a virgin copy of XP PRO SP2 on a >>>> spare hard drive I have - putting on it only what I had to for >>>> audio-video-networking. I set up sharing etc, using the same >>>> parameters, namely LEFT etc. >>>> >>>> Then I downloaded and installed MS's latest RDC (V6) on LEFT. >>>> I checked and now I have RDC V6 on both LEFT and RIGHT. You may >>>> remember that I did not have RDC V6 on LEFT before. It was an earlier >>>> version for some reason. RIGHT machine always did have V6. >>>> >>>> I am back to where I was yesterday now. Namely, I can access and >>>> change folders & files on both LEFT and RIGHT from either machine. >>>> But I can only Remote Connect from LEFT to RIGHT, not RIGHT to LEFT. >>>> >>>> I do notice one thing on the LEFT machine. Netstat shows very few >>>> lines showing 'listening', and 3389 is on shown at all. This was also >>>> true yesterday, but that was with my original hard drive which >>>> contained all kinds of other stuff. I checked the Registry on LEFT >>>> machine and found 3389 shown where it is supposed to be. >>>> >>>> So whatever is wrong, it is consistent. I have to be missing >>>> something. >>>> >>>> Watchatink? >>>> >>>> Jethro >>> >>> What I think after that is I don't have the foggiest idea what is going >>> on. I was going to suggest a "repair install" on LEFT but your doing a >>> clean install certainly trumps that. I presume you checked to see if the >>> Terminal Services service is in fact in a "started" state? You might look >>> at the dependencies tab to see what other services that service needs and >>> check those. Beyond that I really have no idea other than some process, >>> ie. anti-virus, anti-worm, etc etc etc...etc is killing the computer from >>> listening on that port. >>> >>> As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >>> automatic login for Remote Desktop? This illustrates the group policy >>> that dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command >>> window to get there. >>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) >>> >>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the >>> mutual benefit of all of us... >>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >>> rights... >>> How to ask a question >>> http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 >>> >> >> Since you have a spare drive on LEFT to play with try this if you have the >> time... >> >> Do a clean install of the OS but don't add any other software like MS >> updates or your audio-video stuff. Just enable the basic network, ie. >> computer name, workgroup, user ID and password. Make sure you can ping >> RIGHT from LEFT and LEFT from RIGHT by static IP. See if you can login to >> LEFT from RIGHT with Remote Desktop using the static IP for LEFT. >> >> -- >> >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) >> >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the >> mutual benefit of all of us... >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights... >> How to ask a question >> http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 >> > >I forgot to add you need to make sure you enable Remote Desktop after the >clean install. Good point! Jethro
Guest Sooner Al [MVP] Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:f14mb3lls6rgjnnkvj2ul6d9c610s7ff3d@4ax.com... > >> >>As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >>automatic login for Remote Desktop? > > Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me > for login/password. Then fails. > >>This illustrates the group policy that >>dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command window >>to >>get there. >> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us > > I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't > think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. > > Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying > to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always > PCANYWHERE I guess. > > Jethro The auto login is happening on RIGHT is that not correct, ie. you can connect from LEFT to RIGHT using Remote Desktop but you never get prompted for user ID or password? If that is the case inspect the group policy setting on RIGHT. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
Guest Jethro Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:51:35 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:f14mb3lls6rgjnnkvj2ul6d9c610s7ff3d@4ax.com... >> >> >>>As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >>>automatic login for Remote Desktop? >> >> Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me >> for login/password. Then fails. >> >>>This illustrates the group policy that >>>dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command window >>>to >>>get there. >>> >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >> >> I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't >> think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. >> >> Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying >> to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always >> PCANYWHERE I guess. >> >> Jethro > >The auto login is happening on RIGHT is that not correct, ie. you can >connect from LEFT to RIGHT using Remote Desktop but you never get prompted >for user ID or password? If that is the case inspect the group policy >setting on RIGHT. Hi I'm back! That was true before, using the old hard drive, but now that I have created this new hard drive with the 'virgin' (as I call it) copy of XP PRO SP2, I get prompted for ID and password properly - both ways. After which, going RIGHT to LEFT, it fails. Jethro
Guest Sooner Al [MVP] Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:oqfmb31fthvtj6th5lffg6mblauuvpggpt@4ax.com... > On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:51:35 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" > <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: > >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:f14mb3lls6rgjnnkvj2ul6d9c610s7ff3d@4ax.com... >>> >> >>>>As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >>>>automatic login for Remote Desktop? >>> >>> Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me >>> for login/password. Then fails. >>> >>>>This illustrates the group policy that >>>>dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command >>>>window >>>>to >>>>get there. >>>> >>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >>> >>> I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't >>> think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. >>> >>> Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying >>> to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always >>> PCANYWHERE I guess. >>> >>> Jethro >> >>The auto login is happening on RIGHT is that not correct, ie. you can >>connect from LEFT to RIGHT using Remote Desktop but you never get prompted >>for user ID or password? If that is the case inspect the group policy >>setting on RIGHT. > > > Hi > > I'm back! > > That was true before, using the old hard drive, but now that I have > created this new hard drive with the 'virgin' (as I call it) copy of > XP PRO SP2, I get prompted for ID and password properly - both ways. > After which, going RIGHT to LEFT, it fails. > > Jethro So to summarize... ******************* RIGHT... When logging into RIGHT from LEFT using Remote Desktop you now get prompted for a user ID and password. You can subsequently login successfully with Remote Desktop and remotely access/control RIGHT from LEFT. ******************* LEFT... When logging into LEFT from RIGHT using Remote Desktop you now get prompted for a user ID and password. You get an error message when you provide the user ID and password and can not remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT. If that is correct are you logging into LEFT as an administrator? If not did you add the limited user to the Remote Desktop Users Group? ******************* -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
Guest Jethro Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:16:17 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:oqfmb31fthvtj6th5lffg6mblauuvpggpt@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:51:35 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" >> <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:f14mb3lls6rgjnnkvj2ul6d9c610s7ff3d@4ax.com... >>>> >> >>>>>As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >>>>>automatic login for Remote Desktop? >>>> >>>> Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me >>>> for login/password. Then fails. >>>> >>>>>This illustrates the group policy that >>>>>dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command >>>>>window >>>>>to >>>>>get there. >>>>> >>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >>>> >>>> I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't >>>> think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying >>>> to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always >>>> PCANYWHERE I guess. >>>> >>>> Jethro >>> >>>The auto login is happening on RIGHT is that not correct, ie. you can >>>connect from LEFT to RIGHT using Remote Desktop but you never get prompted >>>for user ID or password? If that is the case inspect the group policy >>>setting on RIGHT. >> >> >> Hi >> >> I'm back! >> >> That was true before, using the old hard drive, but now that I have >> created this new hard drive with the 'virgin' (as I call it) copy of >> XP PRO SP2, I get prompted for ID and password properly - both ways. >> After which, going RIGHT to LEFT, it fails. >> >> Jethro > >So to summarize... > >******************* >RIGHT... > >When logging into RIGHT from LEFT using Remote Desktop you now get prompted >for a user ID and password. You can subsequently login successfully with >Remote Desktop and remotely access/control RIGHT from LEFT. That's right. > >******************* >LEFT... > >When logging into LEFT from RIGHT using Remote Desktop you now get prompted >for a user ID and password. You get an error message when you provide the >user ID and password and can not remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT. That's right. I cannot remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT, > >If that is correct are you logging into LEFT as an administrator? If not did >you add the limited user to the Remote Desktop Users Group? I only have one user on each machine - called jethro1 - with same password. Both machines show jethro1 as a 'password-protected computer administrator'. Naturally, when I try to remotely connect, I login (or try to) as jethro1 with proper password. On RIGHT machine, jethro1 is listed as being in the 'Remote Desktop Users' window, and it says additionally that 'jethro1 already has access to this computer'. On LEFT machine, jethro1 is not listed as being in the 'Remote Desktop Users' window (no one is), but it says additionally that 'jethro1 already has access to this computer'. To make two machines agree, I added jethro1 as a user in the 'Remote Desktop Users' window. Guess what? Now Remote Connect works just fine - both ways. As far as I can see, the only change I have made is the adding of jethro1 to the 'Remote Desktop Users' window. Since Jethro1 was said to already allowed access, this doesn't seem right. But there it is. I'll go check yesterday's LEFT hard drive to see what it shows in this area and see if I can make it work now. Thanks Jethro > >*******************
Guest Jethro Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:54:53 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: >On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:16:17 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" ><SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: > >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:oqfmb31fthvtj6th5lffg6mblauuvpggpt@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:51:35 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" >>> <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>news:f14mb3lls6rgjnnkvj2ul6d9c610s7ff3d@4ax.com... >>>>> >> >>>>>>As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it for >>>>>>automatic login for Remote Desktop? >>>>> >>>>> Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me >>>>> for login/password. Then fails. >>>>> >>>>>>This illustrates the group policy that >>>>>>dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command >>>>>>window >>>>>>to >>>>>>get there. >>>>>> >>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >>>>> >>>>> I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't >>>>> think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying >>>>> to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always >>>>> PCANYWHERE I guess. >>>>> >>>>> Jethro >>>> >>>>The auto login is happening on RIGHT is that not correct, ie. you can >>>>connect from LEFT to RIGHT using Remote Desktop but you never get prompted >>>>for user ID or password? If that is the case inspect the group policy >>>>setting on RIGHT. >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'm back! >>> >>> That was true before, using the old hard drive, but now that I have >>> created this new hard drive with the 'virgin' (as I call it) copy of >>> XP PRO SP2, I get prompted for ID and password properly - both ways. >>> After which, going RIGHT to LEFT, it fails. >>> >>> Jethro >> >>So to summarize... >> >>******************* >>RIGHT... >> >>When logging into RIGHT from LEFT using Remote Desktop you now get prompted >>for a user ID and password. You can subsequently login successfully with >>Remote Desktop and remotely access/control RIGHT from LEFT. > >That's right. > >> >>******************* >>LEFT... >> >>When logging into LEFT from RIGHT using Remote Desktop you now get prompted >>for a user ID and password. You get an error message when you provide the >>user ID and password and can not remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT. > > >That's right. I cannot remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT, > >> >>If that is correct are you logging into LEFT as an administrator? If not did >>you add the limited user to the Remote Desktop Users Group? > >I only have one user on each machine - called jethro1 - with same >password. Both machines show jethro1 as a 'password-protected >computer administrator'. Naturally, when I try to remotely connect, I >login (or try to) as jethro1 with proper password. > >On RIGHT machine, jethro1 is listed as being in the 'Remote Desktop >Users' window, and it says additionally that 'jethro1 already has >access to this computer'. On LEFT machine, jethro1 is not listed as >being in the 'Remote Desktop Users' window (no one is), but it says >additionally that 'jethro1 already has access to this computer'. >To make two machines agree, I added jethro1 as a user in the 'Remote >Desktop Users' window. > >Guess what? Now Remote Connect works just fine - both ways. As far >as I can see, the only change I have made is the adding of jethro1 to >the 'Remote Desktop Users' window. Since Jethro1 was said to already >allowed access, this doesn't seem right. But there it is. I'll go >check yesterday's LEFT hard drive to see what it shows in this area >and see if I can make it work now. Thanks > >Jethro > >> >>******************* Awwww crap! I still have same problem when I use yesterday's hard drive. I checked that its 'Remote Desktop Users' window is same as I described earlier (above), and it is. Since my test hard drive works now, this leaves me thinking that LEFT machine's hard drive has something on it that is mucking things up. I remembered that the Remote Desktop Connect version was not v6 on LEFT machine, which it was on RIGHT machine, so I downloaded the upgrade from MS again, and installed it. Same failure. I even tried switching users to the temporary users on both machines (I called them TEST), and still could not connect RIGHT to LEFT. One day I will find out the cause. I've had it, as I am sure you have also. Thanks for helps. Jethro
Guest Sooner Al [MVP] Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Remote Desktop Connection - Revisited "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:t9nmb3tccan2b6gh7k77ov6j45p7tpn3n9@4ax.com... > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:54:53 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: > >>On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:16:17 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" >><SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:oqfmb31fthvtj6th5lffg6mblauuvpggpt@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:51:35 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" >>>> <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:f14mb3lls6rgjnnkvj2ul6d9c610s7ff3d@4ax.com... >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>As far as RIGHT is concerned did you ever in the past configure it >>>>>>>for >>>>>>>automatic login for Remote Desktop? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not that I know of. When I try Remote Connect from RIGHT, it asks me >>>>>> for login/password. Then fails. >>>>>> >>>>>>>This illustrates the group policy that >>>>>>>dictates that. Just run gpedit.msc from the "Start -> Run" command >>>>>>>window >>>>>>>to >>>>>>>get there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281262/en-us >>>>>> >>>>>> I looked at this - it is beyond my current comprehension. I don't >>>>>> think it is user-intuitive. At least not Jethro-intuitive. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your help though. I remain stuck - glad I was just trying >>>>>> to learn how to do all this in case of future need. There is always >>>>>> PCANYWHERE I guess. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jethro >>>>> >>>>>The auto login is happening on RIGHT is that not correct, ie. you can >>>>>connect from LEFT to RIGHT using Remote Desktop but you never get >>>>>prompted >>>>>for user ID or password? If that is the case inspect the group policy >>>>>setting on RIGHT. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I'm back! >>>> >>>> That was true before, using the old hard drive, but now that I have >>>> created this new hard drive with the 'virgin' (as I call it) copy of >>>> XP PRO SP2, I get prompted for ID and password properly - both ways. >>>> After which, going RIGHT to LEFT, it fails. >>>> >>>> Jethro >>> >>>So to summarize... >>> >>>******************* >>>RIGHT... >>> >>>When logging into RIGHT from LEFT using Remote Desktop you now get >>>prompted >>>for a user ID and password. You can subsequently login successfully with >>>Remote Desktop and remotely access/control RIGHT from LEFT. >> >>That's right. >> >>> >>>******************* >>>LEFT... >>> >>>When logging into LEFT from RIGHT using Remote Desktop you now get >>>prompted >>>for a user ID and password. You get an error message when you provide the >>>user ID and password and can not remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT. >> >> >>That's right. I cannot remotely access/control LEFT from RIGHT, >> >>> >>>If that is correct are you logging into LEFT as an administrator? If not >>>did >>>you add the limited user to the Remote Desktop Users Group? >> >>I only have one user on each machine - called jethro1 - with same >>password. Both machines show jethro1 as a 'password-protected >>computer administrator'. Naturally, when I try to remotely connect, I >>login (or try to) as jethro1 with proper password. >> >>On RIGHT machine, jethro1 is listed as being in the 'Remote Desktop >>Users' window, and it says additionally that 'jethro1 already has >>access to this computer'. On LEFT machine, jethro1 is not listed as >>being in the 'Remote Desktop Users' window (no one is), but it says >>additionally that 'jethro1 already has access to this computer'. >>To make two machines agree, I added jethro1 as a user in the 'Remote >>Desktop Users' window. >> >>Guess what? Now Remote Connect works just fine - both ways. As far >>as I can see, the only change I have made is the adding of jethro1 to >>the 'Remote Desktop Users' window. Since Jethro1 was said to already >>allowed access, this doesn't seem right. But there it is. I'll go >>check yesterday's LEFT hard drive to see what it shows in this area >>and see if I can make it work now. Thanks >> >>Jethro >> >>> >>>******************* > > Awwww crap! I still have same problem when I use yesterday's hard > drive. I checked that its 'Remote Desktop Users' window is same as I > described earlier (above), and it is. Since my test hard drive works > now, this leaves me thinking that LEFT machine's hard drive has > something on it that is mucking things up. I remembered that the > Remote Desktop Connect version was not v6 on LEFT machine, which it > was on RIGHT machine, so I downloaded the upgrade from MS again, and > installed it. Same failure. I even tried switching users to the > temporary users on both machines (I called them TEST), and still could > not connect RIGHT to LEFT. > > One day I will find out the cause. I've had it, as I am sure you have > also. > > Thanks for helps. > > Jethro Thanks for the update. Sorry I could not help more... Good luck... -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
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