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Guest Milt Spain
Posted

I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the messages

remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

haven't done.

Thanks for any help provided.

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Guest Alias
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain wrote:

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the messages

> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> haven't done.

> Thanks for any help provided.

 

XP Pro does not include SMTP. You get that from your Internet Service

Provider, the people who provide you with the connection to the Internet.

 

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Guest Gordon
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

"Milt Spain" <MiltSpain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2B21D55E-AD01-438E-A1D8-2A8C7113ED16@microsoft.com...

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the

> messages

> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> haven't done.

> Thanks for any help provided.

>

 

 

Umm There IS no "smtp" included with XP Professional AFAIK - you need to use

the smtp server for your particular ISP....

Guest Malke
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain wrote:

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the messages

> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> haven't done.

> Thanks for any help provided.

 

There is no "SMTP included with XP Professional". You need to go to your

ISP's website and look at the instructions for configuring Outlook to

work with their mail servers.

 

For questions regarding Outlook, post in a newsgroup for it such as

microsoft.public.outlook or microsoft.public.outlook.general.

 

 

Malke

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Guest Milt Spain
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

further.

 

"Malke" wrote:

> Milt Spain wrote:

> > I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> > which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the messages

> > remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> > email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> > haven't done.

> > Thanks for any help provided.

>

> There is no "SMTP included with XP Professional". You need to go to your

> ISP's website and look at the instructions for configuring Outlook to

> work with their mail servers.

>

> For questions regarding Outlook, post in a newsgroup for it such as

> microsoft.public.outlook or microsoft.public.outlook.general.

>

>

> Malke

> --

> Elephant Boy Computers

> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com

> "Don't Panic!"

> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

>

Guest Alias
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain wrote:

> Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

> computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

> this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

> which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

> The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

> search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

> including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

> further.

>

 

When you go to Tools/Accounts in Outlook, what SMTP is listed for each

account?

 

 

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Alias

To email me, remove shoes

Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain <MiltSpain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP

> service on my computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According

> to articles I've read this is basically a "relaying" service, not a

> full-blown mail server, but one which can be used to send email

> messages using outlook or outlook express. The service is clearly on

> my computer since all the files, etc. show on a search of the

> computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages including

> the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

> further.

 

If you installed IIS on your workstation, that might explain it. But this

isn't part of XP. I don't know what you're using IIS for....I suggest you

uninstall it if you don't need it. Use your ISP's SMTP server for your

outbound email.

>

> "Malke" wrote:

>

>> Milt Spain wrote:

>>> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use

>>> Outlook which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent.

>>> However the messages remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are

>>> error messages getting to my email address. Any ideas as to what I

>>> might be doing wrong or something I haven't done.

>>> Thanks for any help provided.

>>

>> There is no "SMTP included with XP Professional". You need to go to

>> your ISP's website and look at the instructions for configuring

>> Outlook to work with their mail servers.

>>

>> For questions regarding Outlook, post in a newsgroup for it such as

>> microsoft.public.outlook or microsoft.public.outlook.general.

>>

>>

>> Malke

>> --

>> Elephant Boy Computers

>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com

>> "Don't Panic!"

>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Posted

RE: SMTP

 

 

 

"Milt Spain" wrote:

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the messages

> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> haven't done.

> Thanks for any help provided.

 

Do you mean this service:

By going to Start >> Control Panel >> Add/Remove Programs >> Click

Add/Remove Windows component >> IIS >> SMTP service for transfer electronic

Mail support?.

Yes, it does exist on XP pro, why you want to use if your Email ISP provide

you with their SMTP service, safer, and you don't have to maintain patch or

be worried as you are now?.

SMTP Service Design

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/b8aafeb4-8883-482b-8cf8-77b3975336b3.aspx

 

XCON: How to Configure the IIS SMTP Service to Relay SMTP Mail

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230235

HOW TO: Configure Microsoft SMTP Service Local Domains in Windows Server 2003

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323436/

 

Although the SMTP service starts, the SMTP virtual server does not start in

Exchange 2000 Server

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907971

Authentication Error in SMTP Service Could Allow Mail Relaying

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms01-037.mspx

 

More on this:

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&qsc0=0&SearchBtn0=Search&q=SMTP+service&first=11&FORM=PNME

HTH.

nass

Guest Malke
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain wrote:

> Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

> computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

> this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

> which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

> The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

> search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

> including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

> further.

 

What are you actually trying to do? Simply send mail? If yes, then do as

I previously suggested. Go to your ISP's or mail host's website and get

the mail server settings from them. Most ISP's will not allow mail

relaying anyway.

 

If you are trying to do something other than set up Outlook to send and

receive email, please tell us.

 

 

Malke

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Elephant Boy Computers

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com

"Don't Panic!"

MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Guest Ken Blake, MVP
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:28:00 -0700, Milt Spain

<MiltSpain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the messages

> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> haven't done.

 

 

You would be much more likely to get the help you need if you would

ask Outlook questions in an Outlook newsgroup, rather than here in one

devoted to Windows XP.

 

Also make sure you really mean Outlook, not Outlook Express, which is

a very different program. There are separate newsgroups for each, so

don't post to the wrong one.

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Guest Patty
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:56:03 -0700, Milt Spain wrote:

> Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

> computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

> this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

> which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

> The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

> search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

> including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

> further.

 

Who are you trying to send the messages to?

 

Normally, as far as email goes, your mail client (Outlook/Outlook Express)

sends the messages to the mail server at your ISP which then forwards them

on to other systems across the internet. So, your mail client basically

just relays the message to the mail server at your ISP. You need to have

the correct settings in your account (SMTP server) in order for them to

proceed on from your system.

 

Patty

Guest Milt Spain
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Send Mail is 127.0.0.1

 

"Alias" wrote:

> Milt Spain wrote:

> > Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

> > computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

> > this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

> > which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

> > The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

> > search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

> > including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

> > further.

> >

>

> When you go to Tools/Accounts in Outlook, what SMTP is listed for each

> account?

>

>

> --

> Alias

> To email me, remove shoes

>

Guest Milt Spain
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

I am not trying to set up Outlook or Outlook Express. I'm trying to get the

IIS virtual server to work. I will not send the emails. They remain in

queue.

 

"Malke" wrote:

> Milt Spain wrote:

> > Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

> > computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

> > this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

> > which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

> > The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

> > search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

> > including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

> > further.

>

> What are you actually trying to do? Simply send mail? If yes, then do as

> I previously suggested. Go to your ISP's or mail host's website and get

> the mail server settings from them. Most ISP's will not allow mail

> relaying anyway.

>

> If you are trying to do something other than set up Outlook to send and

> receive email, please tell us.

>

>

> Malke

> --

> Elephant Boy Computers

> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com

> "Don't Panic!"

> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

>

Guest Patrick Keenan
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

"Milt Spain" <MiltSpain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EB2E07E2-78BE-40AC-8501-E7C66066B249@microsoft.com...

>I am not trying to set up Outlook or Outlook Express. I'm trying to get

>the

> IIS virtual server to work. I will not send the emails. They remain in

> queue.

 

Frankly, that's pretty much different from your original question, which

mentioned Outlook but made no mention of IIS, which itself isn't really part

of XP. IIS has to be installed separately, and I don't think I've seen it

offered during XP Setup. It isn't available in XP Home.

 

Have you looked at configuration guides for other products, like this..

http://www.cmsconnect.com/praetor/webhelpg2/Chapter_2_-_Pre-installation_considerations/Configuring_the_SMTP_Server.htm

 

which mention that some destination mail server software will reject mail

from the IIS virtual server. And if this is set as a relay service, and

most ISP's don't permit relays, the message may not be accepted and may well

stay in the queue for that reason, or the mails may be mis-addressed. The

logs may give you some better idea of what's happening.

 

You might get better answers if you post in a group related to IIS SMTP -

this topic isn't really anything to do with XP.

 

Try this group, where it appears there are some people who know this product

well, and there are questions (and answers!) there on this specific topic:

 

microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.smtp_nntp

 

HTH

-pk

>

> "Malke" wrote:

>

>> Milt Spain wrote:

>> > Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service

>> > on my

>> > computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles

>> > I've read

>> > this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server,

>> > but one

>> > which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook

>> > express.

>> > The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on

>> > a

>> > search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email

>> > messages

>> > including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go

>> > no

>> > further.

>>

>> What are you actually trying to do? Simply send mail? If yes, then do as

>> I previously suggested. Go to your ISP's or mail host's website and get

>> the mail server settings from them. Most ISP's will not allow mail

>> relaying anyway.

>>

>> If you are trying to do something other than set up Outlook to send and

>> receive email, please tell us.

>>

>>

>> Malke

>> --

>> Elephant Boy Computers

>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com

>> "Don't Panic!"

>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

>>

Guest HeyBub
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain wrote:

> Send Mail is 127.0.0.1

>

> "Alias" wrote:

>

 

127.0.0.1 is shorthand for YOUR computer. It's a loopback, a localhost. Used

often for testing.

 

You're talking to yourself.

Posted

Re: SMTP

 

 

"Milt Spain" <MiltSpain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2B21D55E-AD01-438E-A1D8-2A8C7113ED16@microsoft.com...

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the

> messages

> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to my

> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something I

> haven't done.

> Thanks for any help provided.

 

Hi,

 

IIS's SMTP in WinXP Pro is pretty limited. It is basically included just so

one can include a "send email" form in locally hosted web pages.

 

I don't know what your SMTP needs are or how you are setup, but if you want

a relatively simple SMTP server for Windows take a look at Smartermail.

http://www.smartertools.com/

 

It is free for non-commercial use with a single domain. Also included is a

web interface that works fine under IIS's web server.

 

To be able to use it with the outside world, obviously you need to be

allowed to run your own email services and have a static IP. Preferably,

you will also want a registered domain and be in your provider's DNS

pointers for reverse-DNS resolution. With ISP's, this almost certaintly

requires a commercial account.

Guest Alias
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

Milt Spain wrote:

> Send Mail is 127.0.0.1

 

Got some kind of virus checker or malware checker monitoring email? If

so, or if you've removed it, you need to change the STMP to whatever

your ISP says it should be.

 

--

Alias

To email me, remove shoes

>

> "Alias" wrote:

>

>> Milt Spain wrote:

>>> Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology but there is a SMTP service on my

>>> computer and I'm apparently connected to it. According to articles I've read

>>> this is basically a "relaying" service, not a full-blown mail server, but one

>>> which can be used to send email messages using outlook or outlook express.

>>> The service is clearly on my computer since all the files, etc. show on a

>>> search of the computer and the queue clearly receives the email messages

>>> including the test message sent by outlook. However the messages go no

>>> further.

>>>

>> When you go to Tools/Accounts in Outlook, what SMTP is listed for each

>> account?

>>

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>> To email me, remove shoes

>>

Posted

Re: SMTP

 

 

"Eric" <nobody@anywhere.nnn> wrote in message

news:46ba6dc7$0$29715$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>

> "Milt Spain" <MiltSpain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2B21D55E-AD01-438E-A1D8-2A8C7113ED16@microsoft.com...

>> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

>> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the

>> messages

>> remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages getting to

>> my

>> email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing wrong or something

>> I

>> haven't done.

>> Thanks for any help provided.

>

> Hi,

>

> IIS's SMTP in WinXP Pro is pretty limited. It is basically included just

> so one can include a "send email" form in locally hosted web pages.

>

> I don't know what your SMTP needs are or how you are setup, but if you

> want a relatively simple SMTP server for Windows take a look at

> Smartermail.

> http://www.smartertools.com/

>

> It is free for non-commercial use with a single domain. Also included is

> a web interface that works fine under IIS's web server.

>

> To be able to use it with the outside world, obviously you need to be

> allowed to run your own email services and have a static IP. Preferably,

> you will also want a registered domain and be in your provider's DNS

> pointers for reverse-DNS resolution. With ISP's, this almost certaintly

> requires a commercial account.

>

 

[Continuing my previous post to the original poster]

 

BTW: You will likely get better responses if you state what your exact SMTP

needs are and the environment it will be running in. Most of the replies

in this thread are assuming that you are simply just trying to setup email

in Outlook and are confused about what an SMTP server is. However, I am

giving the benefit of the doubt that you do have a need for a local SMTP

server.

 

Is this a work place or a home? Are you wanting to run an SMTP server for

productivity or just an playful exercise in learning? Are you planning for

it to be used for just local mail or mail that actually goes into the

outside world? All are valid reasons.

 

It is difficult to answer your question without knowing more details of

exactly what you want to accomplish and what your environment is.

 

If you are just a home user, using a consumer ISP service, yet still want to

run your own email services locally, I can tell you of a "hybrid" way of

going about it with Linux.

Guest Thufir
Posted

Re: SMTP

 

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:28:00 -0700, Milt Spain wrote:

> I'm trying to use the SMTP included with XP Professional. I use Outlook

> which connects to SMTP and indicates messages are sent. However the

> messages remain in the queue and are not sent. Nor are error messages

> getting to my email address. Any ideas as to what I might be doing

> wrong or something I haven't done.

> Thanks for any help provided.

 

 

 

it very well may be that the ISP needs a password, so that would have to

be enabled.

 

A good way to test this would be to setup a google account, then

configure your e-mail program for POP3 so that SMTP is used with google

instead of your ISP. <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?

answer=13276&topic=1556> for some info about configuring your e-mail

software for gmail. The general link for this topic with regards to

gmail is <http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1555>, your

ISP will have similar instructions specific to their services.

 

You can also try, for instance: start, run, cmd, click ok, "telnet

outgoing.verizon.net smtp" to test that you can connect to your ISP.

that example was for verizon. Unless it says "unreachable" or "timed

out", most likely your ISP's smtp stuff is up and running.

 

probably your software has to be configured with a password for your ISP.

 

 

 

-thufir


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