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Guest Darren
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Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to replacment

machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and run

this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

machine.

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Guest David B.
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Re: Hard Drive Change

 

If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll have to

perform a repair install to get it to boot.

 

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"Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

> replacment

> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

> run

> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

> machine.

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Maybe, maybe not. If your version of XP was purchased retail, it will be OK.

If it was some brand name computer, then probably not. The latter may be

"bios locked" to the motherboard.

 

In any case, you'd have to do a Repair install of XP. Such an operation is

fraught with possible complications. Make sure your data is well backed up

before you try it. Once you've managed the Repair installation, you'll then

have to reactivate. Only then will you find out if you can do so, due to the

licensing restrictions.

 

You don't have the original installation disk? I assume you got a new HD

with the new machine? If not, I recommend you get one, even a small one. You

can clean install XP to that, then put in the old HD as a second device,

retrieve the data, reformat the disk and use it for storage. If the Windows

disk you have won't install to the machine and activate, then transferring

the old drive won't likely work either.

 

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http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

> replacment

> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

> run

> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

> machine.

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

 

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"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll have to

> perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>

> --

>

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>

> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>> replacment

>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

>> run

>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

>> machine.

>>

>

Guest Patrick Keenan
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

"Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

> replacment

> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

> run

> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

> machine.

 

You will have to do a repair install of XP, unless the replacement machine

is exactly the same as the old one. Key XP files are built to reflect

installed hardware, and it will not boot or function properly if the

hardware it expects is not there or is really something else.

 

If your XP version is OEM, it's possible that it will not install on

hardware from another manufacturer.

 

HTH

-pk

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the new

hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not after a

motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive controller.

 

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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll have

>> to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>

>> --

>>

>> ----

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>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>> replacment

>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

>>> run

>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>> replacment

>>> machine.

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Not correct, the only piece of hardware that has to be the same or similar

is the hard drive controller, and there are ways around that.

 

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"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message

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> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>> replacment

>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

>> run

>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

>> machine.

>

> You will have to do a repair install of XP, unless the replacement machine

> is exactly the same as the old one. Key XP files are built to reflect

> installed hardware, and it will not boot or function properly if the

> hardware it expects is not there or is really something else.

>

> If your XP version is OEM, it's possible that it will not install on

> hardware from another manufacturer.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

Guest Darren
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

thanks

crashed machine was a home build

new machine is a packard bell refirbished by pcworld

 

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Maybe, maybe not. If your version of XP was purchased retail, it will be OK.

> If it was some brand name computer, then probably not. The latter may be

> "bios locked" to the motherboard.

>

> In any case, you'd have to do a Repair install of XP. Such an operation is

> fraught with possible complications. Make sure your data is well backed up

> before you try it. Once you've managed the Repair installation, you'll then

> have to reactivate. Only then will you find out if you can do so, due to the

> licensing restrictions.

>

> You don't have the original installation disk? I assume you got a new HD

> with the new machine? If not, I recommend you get one, even a small one. You

> can clean install XP to that, then put in the old HD as a second device,

> retrieve the data, reformat the disk and use it for storage. If the Windows

> disk you have won't install to the machine and activate, then transferring

> the old drive won't likely work either.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

> > Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

> > replacment

> > machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and

> > run

> > this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

> > machine.

> >

>

>

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Also this is not taking any license/activation issues into account.

 

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"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the new

> hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not after a

> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive controller.

>

> --

>

> ----

> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

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>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OaJ5TQe2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll have

>>> to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> ----

>>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>

>>>

>>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>>> replacment

>>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up

>>>> and run

>>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>>> replacment

>>>> machine.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Something I didn't know... Noted.

 

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"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the new

> hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not after a

> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive controller.

>

> --

>

> ----

> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> _________________________________________________________________________________

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OaJ5TQe2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll have

>>> to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> ----

>>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>

>>>

>>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>>> replacment

>>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up

>>>> and run

>>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>>> replacment

>>>> machine.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

One of the tricks I use when upgrading to a completely different motherboard

with different chipsets, install a PCI hard drive controller and install the

drivers, shut down the PC and connect the hard drive to the PCI controller

and make sure it boots from it with no problems, install new motherboard,

including the PCI controller, XP should boot up. Install motherboard

drivers, shut down and connect hard drive to new motherboard, and you've

saved yourself a repair install and the need to reinstall all the Windows

Updates.

 

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_________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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> Something I didn't know... Noted.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eZ3BmYe2HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the new

>> hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not after a

>> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>> controller.

>>

>> --

>>

>> ----

>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:OaJ5TQe2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll have

>>>> to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>>

>>>> ----

>>>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>>>> replacment

>>>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up

>>>>> and run

>>>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>>>> replacment

>>>>> machine.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Kinda hard to set up if the first motherboard is fried, isn't it?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:O5Hr9Zf2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> One of the tricks I use when upgrading to a completely different

> motherboard with different chipsets, install a PCI hard drive controller

> and install the drivers, shut down the PC and connect the hard drive to

> the PCI controller and make sure it boots from it with no problems,

> install new motherboard, including the PCI controller, XP should boot up.

> Install motherboard drivers, shut down and connect hard drive to new

> motherboard, and you've saved yourself a repair install and the need to

> reinstall all the Windows Updates.

>

> --

>

> ----

> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> _________________________________________________________________________________

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:O6zTGCf2HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Something I didn't know... Noted.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:eZ3BmYe2HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the

>>> new hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not

>>> after a motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>>> controller.

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> ----

>>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>

>>>

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:OaJ5TQe2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll

>>>>> have to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>>

>>>>> ----

>>>>> Crosspost, do not multipost

>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>>>>> replacment

>>>>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up

>>>>>> and run

>>>>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>>>>> replacment

>>>>>> machine.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

That's the situation where pretty much nothing's going to help you

unfortunately, but it's a hell of a timesaver for an upgrade situation.

 

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"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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> Kinda hard to set up if the first motherboard is fried, isn't it?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:O5Hr9Zf2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> One of the tricks I use when upgrading to a completely different

>> motherboard with different chipsets, install a PCI hard drive controller

>> and install the drivers, shut down the PC and connect the hard drive to

>> the PCI controller and make sure it boots from it with no problems,

>> install new motherboard, including the PCI controller, XP should boot up.

>> Install motherboard drivers, shut down and connect hard drive to new

>> motherboard, and you've saved yourself a repair install and the need to

>> reinstall all the Windows Updates.

>>

>> --

>>

>> ----

>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:O6zTGCf2HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Something I didn't know... Noted.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eZ3BmYe2HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the

>>>> new hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not

>>>> after a motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>>>> controller.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>>

>>>> ----

>>>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>>> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:OaJ5TQe2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll

>>>>>> have to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ----

>>>>>> Crosspost, do not multipost

>>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>>>>>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

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>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________________________

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>>>>>> replacment

>>>>>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up

>>>>>>> and run

>>>>>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>>>>>> replacment

>>>>>>> machine.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

I'll try to remember it, for sure. Probably won't though, <sigh>.

 

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"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message

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> That's the situation where pretty much nothing's going to help you

> unfortunately, but it's a hell of a timesaver for an upgrade situation.

>

> --

> ----

> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

> How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

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> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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>> Kinda hard to set up if the first motherboard is fried, isn't it?

>>

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>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:O5Hr9Zf2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> One of the tricks I use when upgrading to a completely different

>>> motherboard with different chipsets, install a PCI hard drive controller

>>> and install the drivers, shut down the PC and connect the hard drive to

>>> the PCI controller and make sure it boots from it with no problems,

>>> install new motherboard, including the PCI controller, XP should boot

>>> up. Install motherboard drivers, shut down and connect hard drive to new

>>> motherboard, and you've saved yourself a repair install and the need to

>>> reinstall all the Windows Updates.

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>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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>>>> Something I didn't know... Noted.

>>>>

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>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eZ3BmYe2HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the

>>>>> new hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not

>>>>> after a motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>>>>> controller.

>>>>>

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>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OaJ5TQe2HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>A lot more than hard drive controllers are involved.

>>>>>>

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>>>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:ejkhOOe2HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> If the hard drive controllers are very similar, yes, if not you'll

>>>>>>> have to perform a repair install to get it to boot.

>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>> "Darren" <Darren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:798214D5-41BE-49F8-A015-05FA89E54A57@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to

>>>>>>>> replacment

>>>>>>>> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot

>>>>>>>> up and run

>>>>>>>> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for

>>>>>>>> replacment

>>>>>>>> machine.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Bruce Chambers
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Darren wrote:

> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to replacment

> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and run

> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

> machine.

>

 

 

Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM

installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are

*not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting),

unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same

IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP

installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair

(a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

 

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

 

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

 

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with

licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.

You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If

you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a

Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style

foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,

is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any

old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it

"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the

reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable

than the Win9x group.

 

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any

important data before starting.

 

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a

Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than

120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most

likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's

been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

 

 

 

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Guest Bruce Chambers
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Re: Hard Drive Change

 

David B. wrote:

> Not true at all. Granted you will have to install the drivers for the

> new hardware AFTER XP boots, but whether it successfully boots or not

> after a motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

> controller.

>

 

 

100%? Since when? The hard drive controllers are only one factor, and

far from the most significant.

 

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Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the BSOD after

a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it necessary for a

repair install, the procedure I stated above proves this and I have used it

many times to avoid the need for a repair install (in an upgrade situation).

I would do a bit of testing before making the statement you did, you will

find out that your wrong.

 

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> 100%? Since when? The hard drive controllers are only one factor, and

> far from the most significant.

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Guest John John
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that can

cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different hardware,

especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer hardware.

 

While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive controller

is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say that

different controller are the sole and only cause and that they are 100%

responsible for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new hardware.

0x7B errors are not exclusively, 100% the sole possible error when

moving Windows XP to new hardware, and it is not the only 100% thing

that makes it necessary to reinstall Windows!

 

John

 

David B. wrote:

> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the BSOD after

> a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it necessary for a

> repair install, the procedure I stated above proves this and I have used it

> many times to avoid the need for a repair install (in an upgrade situation).

> I would do a bit of testing before making the statement you did, you will

> find out that your wrong.

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

In rare cases maybe, I have had probably a 95 to 99% success rate using the

method I outlined.

 

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"John John" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message

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> That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

> differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that can

> cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different hardware,

> especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer hardware.

>

> While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive controller

> is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say that different

> controller are the sole and only cause and that they are 100% responsible

> for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new hardware. 0x7B errors are

> not exclusively, 100% the sole possible error when moving Windows XP to

> new hardware, and it is not the only 100% thing that makes it necessary to

> reinstall Windows!

>

> John

>

> David B. wrote:

>> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the BSOD

>> after a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it necessary

>> for a repair install, the procedure I stated above proves this and I have

>> used it many times to avoid the need for a repair install (in an upgrade

>> situation). I would do a bit of testing before making the statement you

>> did, you will find out that your wrong.

>>

>

Guest Plato
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

=?Utf-8?B?RGFycmVu?= wrote:

>

> Had Complete Mobo/processor melt down .Can i put hard drive in to replacment

> machine with new mobo and processor and use it as primary to boot up and run

> this machine . thus not having to buy new operating system for replacment

> machine.

 

Yes, in theory, but you would most likely have to run a "repair install"

once the hard drive is in a different PC.

 

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Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

So, there goes your "whether it successfully boots or not after a

motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive controller."

 

All in all, I think I'd prefer a Repair install.

 

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> In rare cases maybe, I have had probably a 95 to 99% success rate using

> the method I outlined.

>

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> "John John" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message

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>> That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

>> differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that can

>> cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different hardware,

>> especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer hardware.

>>

>> While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive controller

>> is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say that different

>> controller are the sole and only cause and that they are 100% responsible

>> for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new hardware. 0x7B errors are

>> not exclusively, 100% the sole possible error when moving Windows XP to

>> new hardware, and it is not the only 100% thing that makes it necessary

>> to reinstall Windows!

>>

>> John

>>

>> David B. wrote:

>>> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the BSOD

>>> after a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it necessary

>>> for a repair install, the procedure I stated above proves this and I

>>> have used it many times to avoid the need for a repair install (in an

>>> upgrade situation). I would do a bit of testing before making the

>>> statement you did, you will find out that your wrong.

>>>

>>

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

What ever floats your boat, I'd rather not waste the time if I don't have

to.

 

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> So, there goes your "whether it successfully boots or not after a

> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

> controller."

>

> All in all, I think I'd prefer a Repair install.

>

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> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eYjM03q2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> In rare cases maybe, I have had probably a 95 to 99% success rate using

>> the method I outlined.

>>

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>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message

>> news:e9Anuho2HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

>>> differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that can

>>> cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different hardware,

>>> especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer hardware.

>>>

>>> While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive controller

>>> is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say that

>>> different controller are the sole and only cause and that they are 100%

>>> responsible for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new hardware.

>>> 0x7B errors are not exclusively, 100% the sole possible error when

>>> moving Windows XP to new hardware, and it is not the only 100% thing

>>> that makes it necessary to reinstall Windows!

>>>

>>> John

>>>

>>> David B. wrote:

>>>> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the BSOD

>>>> after a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it

>>>> necessary for a repair install, the procedure I stated above proves

>>>> this and I have used it many times to avoid the need for a repair

>>>> install (in an upgrade situation). I would do a bit of testing before

>>>> making the statement you did, you will find out that your wrong.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Hmmm... Seems to me that the hardware changes your method requires would

take near as much time as a Repair install. Certainly a lot more hands-on

time. Dunno...

 

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> What ever floats your boat, I'd rather not waste the time if I don't have

> to.

>

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> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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>> So, there goes your "whether it successfully boots or not after a

>> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>> controller."

>>

>> All in all, I think I'd prefer a Repair install.

>>

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>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:eYjM03q2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> In rare cases maybe, I have had probably a 95 to 99% success rate using

>>> the method I outlined.

>>>

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>>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message

>>> news:e9Anuho2HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

>>>> differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that

>>>> can cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different

>>>> hardware, especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer

>>>> hardware.

>>>>

>>>> While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive

>>>> controller is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say

>>>> that different controller are the sole and only cause and that they are

>>>> 100% responsible for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new

>>>> hardware. 0x7B errors are not exclusively, 100% the sole possible error

>>>> when moving Windows XP to new hardware, and it is not the only 100%

>>>> thing that makes it necessary to reinstall Windows!

>>>>

>>>> John

>>>>

>>>> David B. wrote:

>>>>> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the BSOD

>>>>> after a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it

>>>>> necessary for a repair install, the procedure I stated above proves

>>>>> this and I have used it many times to avoid the need for a repair

>>>>> install (in an upgrade situation). I would do a bit of testing before

>>>>> making the statement you did, you will find out that your wrong.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest David B.
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Installing a driver for a PCI controller takes the same amount of time as a

repair install and reinstalling all the Windows updates? Few I think would

agree with that. My method is 5, 10 minutes at most in preparation. A repair

install, half an hour roughly depending on the machine, Windows updates

another half hour to an hour or so depending on your connection speed. It

really is a time saver and almost always works. I have even swapped AMD

boards for Intel boards with this method, with no repair install. This

method gets around the hard drive controller incompatibility issue only, if

it blue screens for some other reason, which I have found is rare, it's

usually because one forgot to uninstall drivers (sound, nic etc) before the

final shutdown before the swap.

 

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> Hmmm... Seems to me that the hardware changes your method requires would

> take near as much time as a Repair install. Certainly a lot more hands-on

> time. Dunno...

>

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> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OeBAQXC4HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> What ever floats your boat, I'd rather not waste the time if I don't have

>> to.

>>

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>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:eof0ITC4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> So, there goes your "whether it successfully boots or not after a

>>> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>>> controller."

>>>

>>> All in all, I think I'd prefer a Repair install.

>>>

>>> --

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>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eYjM03q2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> In rare cases maybe, I have had probably a 95 to 99% success rate using

>>>> the method I outlined.

>>>>

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>>>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message

>>>> news:e9Anuho2HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

>>>>> differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that

>>>>> can cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different

>>>>> hardware, especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer

>>>>> hardware.

>>>>>

>>>>> While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive

>>>>> controller is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say

>>>>> that different controller are the sole and only cause and that they

>>>>> are 100% responsible for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new

>>>>> hardware. 0x7B errors are not exclusively, 100% the sole possible

>>>>> error when moving Windows XP to new hardware, and it is not the only

>>>>> 100% thing that makes it necessary to reinstall Windows!

>>>>>

>>>>> John

>>>>>

>>>>> David B. wrote:

>>>>>> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the

>>>>>> BSOD after a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it

>>>>>> necessary for a repair install, the procedure I stated above proves

>>>>>> this and I have used it many times to avoid the need for a repair

>>>>>> install (in an upgrade situation). I would do a bit of testing before

>>>>>> making the statement you did, you will find out that your wrong.

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: Hard Drive Change

 

Five to ten minutes to install a PCI card (the hardware), then. when the

drivers install is complete, shut down, remove the card, install the new

mobo (won't count that time), restart and install all the new drivers (also

a wash), then, after the thing is done, remove the card? OK, maybe, if

you're really fast. But I doubt it.

 

Whereas a Repair install takes about two minutes to initiate, then you go do

something else for half an hour. Ditto the Updates. And there's no guessing

whether your method will even work.

 

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"David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Installing a driver for a PCI controller takes the same amount of time as

> a repair install and reinstalling all the Windows updates? Few I think

> would agree with that. My method is 5, 10 minutes at most in preparation.

> A repair install, half an hour roughly depending on the machine, Windows

> updates another half hour to an hour or so depending on your connection

> speed. It really is a time saver and almost always works. I have even

> swapped AMD boards for Intel boards with this method, with no repair

> install. This method gets around the hard drive controller incompatibility

> issue only, if it blue screens for some other reason, which I have found

> is rare, it's usually because one forgot to uninstall drivers (sound, nic

> etc) before the final shutdown before the swap.

>

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> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:e9xVxhC4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Hmmm... Seems to me that the hardware changes your method requires would

>> take near as much time as a Repair install. Certainly a lot more hands-on

>> time. Dunno...

>>

>> --

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>> MS-MVP Shell/User

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>>

>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OeBAQXC4HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> What ever floats your boat, I'd rather not waste the time if I don't

>>> have to.

>>>

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>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:eof0ITC4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> So, there goes your "whether it successfully boots or not after a

>>>> motherboard swap is 100% related to the old and new hard drive

>>>> controller."

>>>>

>>>> All in all, I think I'd prefer a Repair install.

>>>>

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>>>>

>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eYjM03q2HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> In rare cases maybe, I have had probably a 95 to 99% success rate

>>>>> using the method I outlined.

>>>>>

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>>>>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e9Anuho2HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> That is not correct. It may be correct to say that drive controller

>>>>>> differences is the most common cause but there are other issues that

>>>>>> can cause Windows XP not to boot when it is moved to different

>>>>>> hardware, especially if you move it form fairly old to much newer

>>>>>> hardware.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> While it is correct to say that in 100% of cases if the drive

>>>>>> controller is different Windows will not boot, it is incorrect to say

>>>>>> that different controller are the sole and only cause and that they

>>>>>> are 100% responsible for boot failures when moving Windows XP to new

>>>>>> hardware. 0x7B errors are not exclusively, 100% the sole possible

>>>>>> error when moving Windows XP to new hardware, and it is not the only

>>>>>> 100% thing that makes it necessary to reinstall Windows!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> John

>>>>>>

>>>>>> David B. wrote:

>>>>>>> It is the difference in the hard drive controller that causes the

>>>>>>> BSOD after a motherboard swap, that is the only thing that makes it

>>>>>>> necessary for a repair install, the procedure I stated above proves

>>>>>>> this and I have used it many times to avoid the need for a repair

>>>>>>> install (in an upgrade situation). I would do a bit of testing

>>>>>>> before making the statement you did, you will find out that your

>>>>>>> wrong.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

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