Guest Lella Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Hi I wonder if any of you nice fold can help me. Approx a year ago I boght a computer, up to the eighth months it was working fine ( except for a very noisy motherboard) my computer crashed in a zzz mode , I have spoken to a technitian whom told me it was a graphics card problem A techitian came out to put a new graphics card in my computer, approx two weeks later the same problem happened and the technitian came to install another graphics card, again approx a month later the same thing happened and the technitian came out to install another card, I asked him wether my computer was overheating because of the noise and wether this was affecting the graphics card but was told this was not the problem. I do feel that it cannot be a graphics card problem asthey all 3 could not be faulty, and feel it might have to do with the computer overheating and damaging the graphics card. Has anyone had a similiar problem or can help me. Thanks
Guest Chris Barnes Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzzmod Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzzmod Lella wrote: > Hi I wonder if any of you nice fold can help me. > Approx a year ago I boght a computer, up to the eighth months it was working > fine ( except for a very noisy motherboard) my computer crashed in a zzz mode > , I have spoken to a technitian whom told me it was a graphics card problem > A techitian came out to put a new graphics card in my computer, approx two > weeks later the same problem happened and the technitian came to install > another graphics card, again approx a month later the same thing happened and > the technitian came out to install another card, I asked him wether my > computer was overheating because of the noise and wether this was affecting > the graphics card but was told this was not the problem. > I do feel that it cannot be a graphics card problem asthey all 3 could not > be faulty, and feel it might have to do with the computer overheating and > damaging the graphics card. Look at the capacitors on the motherboard and see if the tops of any of them are bulging (upward). It does sound like the power supply/mobo is allowing too much power through - and the graphics card happens to be rather sensitive to it. My guess is that you're right - what you really need is either a new power supply or mobo. -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes chris-barnes@tamu.edu Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes
Guest Lella Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzz Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzz Hi Chris, Just want to thank you for your advice, what is a capacitor and mobo? I cant start my computer and am using another one as my new one crashed. If the computer is overheating could it damage more than just the graphics card? The motherboard is very narrow and is made of plastic and has a very small fan and a small outlet, could this cause an overheating problem. I am sorry to ask so many questions, its just that I would like to understand better before I take my computer back to the store I bought it from. Thanks for your help! "Chris Barnes" wrote: > Lella wrote: > > Hi I wonder if any of you nice fold can help me. > > Approx a year ago I boght a computer, up to the eighth months it was working > > fine ( except for a very noisy motherboard) my computer crashed in a zzz mode > > , I have spoken to a technitian whom told me it was a graphics card problem > > A techitian came out to put a new graphics card in my computer, approx two > > weeks later the same problem happened and the technitian came to install > > another graphics card, again approx a month later the same thing happened and > > the technitian came out to install another card, I asked him wether my > > computer was overheating because of the noise and wether this was affecting > > the graphics card but was told this was not the problem. > > I do feel that it cannot be a graphics card problem asthey all 3 could not > > be faulty, and feel it might have to do with the computer overheating and > > damaging the graphics card. > > > Look at the capacitors on the motherboard and see if the tops of any of > them are bulging (upward). It does sound like the power supply/mobo is > allowing too much power through - and the graphics card happens to be > rather sensitive to it. > > My guess is that you're right - what you really need is either a new > power supply or mobo. > > -- > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Chris Barnes AOL IM: CNBarnes > chris-barnes@tamu.edu Yahoo IM: chrisnbarnes >
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzz mod "Lella" <Lella@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E92D5E1E-9062-4FD7-84AF-2D5668F78489@microsoft.com... > Hi I wonder if any of you nice fold can help me. > Approx a year ago I boght a computer, up to the eighth months it was > working > fine ( except for a very noisy motherboard) my computer crashed in a zzz > mode > , I have spoken to a technitian whom told me it was a graphics card > problem > A techitian came out to put a new graphics card in my computer, approx two > weeks later the same problem happened and the technitian came to install > another graphics card, again approx a month later the same thing happened > and > the technitian came out to install another card, I asked him wether my > computer was overheating because of the noise and wether this was > affecting > the graphics card but was told this was not the problem. > I do feel that it cannot be a graphics card problem asthey all 3 could not > be faulty, and feel it might have to do with the computer overheating and > damaging the graphics card. > Has anyone had a similiar problem or can help me. > Thanks What is "zzz mode"? The only time motherboards make any sound is when components explode. It's ususally a pop, or a small bang. They then make no further sounds. *Fans*, on the other hand, can be noisy, but are essential and critical. So are the largish, finned metal blocks mounted between the fan and the CPU. There will also be a fan or two in the power supply. More expensive power supplies can be significantly quieter, and that can be a very good purchase. These normally come with better-quality cases. Cheaper fans are noisier. There must be adequate airflow and dust must periodically be removed, but *never* with a vacuum. Use compressed air cans instead. It would help if you could post more precise and descriptive details of the problem and exact error messages. For example, if you get a blue screen with white text, there's a STOP message with a number right after it, a somewhat cryptic term like "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR EQUAL" and then the name of some file, usually a DLL. Those are details needed. You're probably right that it isn't the video card failing; if it's heat, the CPU itself or other componets will have cooked by now. However without having a better idea of what you've actually seen, it's very difficult to say. mobo = motherboard. Capacitors are electrical components that store charge, in essence a type of battery. Not to sound disparaging in any way, but if you don't know what one is, you aren't likely to recognise if they are bulging (an indication of failure). There have been problems with some motherboards that used capacitors that bulged on their way to failure and vented or burst. At that point, the system becomes seriously unstable or fails to start at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague HTH -pk
Guest Lella Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzz Re: Re Problem with Graphics card overheating comp crashing in zzz Hi Patrick, thanks for your advice. My Pc is a philips free event LS1400 Intel pentium 4 640 3.2 ghz 2mb 1024 mb ddr ATI radeon x550 256mb The first time my computer shut down is when I was playing a game the screen went fuzzy and then black and shut down, I never saw anymessages before it crashed. The first time the I had a problem and spoke to the tech guys, they took me through all the steps, F5 F8 delete, removing all the cables etc, couldent get the computer to start, tech guy said it was a graphics problem and came out to install it. The first time he came out I asked wether it could be an overheating problem as since I had the computer 8 months, it had always made a loud noise, he said it had nothing to do with overheating. The tech guys had to come out three times in a space of two months to put in new graphics cards. The first time the tech guys service report said: swap tested VGA- post boot ( swap VGA faulty but gives screen o/put) D/Top x550 256mg, low profile Pci express. VgH required rebooted via A/L RTNR approx 10 minutes. The second time tech guy came to replace the graphics card the service report said: Replaced faulty VGA installed drivers, Device manager all ok, Radion x1300, display ok,checked advanced settings- adapter- showing correct VGA card. Third time tech guy came to replace graphics card the service report said: graphics corrupt changed VGA card ok, thats all it said. I bought my computer in febraury lasy year, in October lasy year the problems started, although from the first day I bought the computer it has always made a loud noise, like an engine, the noise has been owrse when paying a game or loading rogramms. I have dusted the inside of motherboard very carefull, all clean. I will look at the capacitors and gwet back to you. Thanks "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > "Lella" <Lella@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E92D5E1E-9062-4FD7-84AF-2D5668F78489@microsoft.com... > > Hi I wonder if any of you nice fold can help me. > > Approx a year ago I boght a computer, up to the eighth months it was > > working > > fine ( except for a very noisy motherboard) my computer crashed in a zzz > > mode > > , I have spoken to a technitian whom told me it was a graphics card > > problem > > A techitian came out to put a new graphics card in my computer, approx two > > weeks later the same problem happened and the technitian came to install > > another graphics card, again approx a month later the same thing happened > > and > > the technitian came out to install another card, I asked him wether my > > computer was overheating because of the noise and wether this was > > affecting > > the graphics card but was told this was not the problem. > > I do feel that it cannot be a graphics card problem asthey all 3 could not > > be faulty, and feel it might have to do with the computer overheating and > > damaging the graphics card. > > Has anyone had a similiar problem or can help me. > > Thanks > > What is "zzz mode"? > > The only time motherboards make any sound is when components explode. It's > ususally a pop, or a small bang. They then make no further sounds. > > *Fans*, on the other hand, can be noisy, but are essential and critical. > So are the largish, finned metal blocks mounted between the fan and the CPU. > There will also be a fan or two in the power supply. More expensive > power supplies can be significantly quieter, and that can be a very good > purchase. These normally come with better-quality cases. Cheaper fans > are noisier. > > > There must be adequate airflow and dust must periodically be removed, but > *never* with a vacuum. Use compressed air cans instead. > > It would help if you could post more precise and descriptive details of the > problem and exact error messages. For example, if you get a blue screen > with white text, there's a STOP message with a number right after it, a > somewhat cryptic term like "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR EQUAL" and then the name of > some file, usually a DLL. Those are details needed. > > You're probably right that it isn't the video card failing; if it's heat, > the CPU itself or other componets will have cooked by now. However without > having a better idea of what you've actually seen, it's very difficult to > say. > > mobo = motherboard. > > Capacitors are electrical components that store charge, in essence a type of > battery. Not to sound disparaging in any way, but if you don't know what > one is, you aren't likely to recognise if they are bulging (an indication of > failure). There have been problems with some motherboards that used > capacitors that bulged on their way to failure and vented or burst. At > that point, the system becomes seriously unstable or fails to start at all. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague > > HTH > -pk > > > >
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