Guest B.Franklin Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no XP disk as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and wanted to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). If so, how - if not, suggestions?
Guest Doug Knox - [MS-MVP] Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done on XP That would depend on what needs to be "repaired". -- Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes http://www.dougknox.com -------------------------------- Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm -------------------------------- Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Unsolicited e-mail is not answered. "B.Franklin" <B.Franklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ECAB9A5E-CDCA-434A-BF2C-5D254F4AB44F@microsoft.com... > Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no XP > disk > as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and > wanted > to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can > replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). > > If so, how - if not, suggestions?
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done on XP "B.Franklin" <B.Franklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ECAB9A5E-CDCA-434A-BF2C-5D254F4AB44F@microsoft.com... > Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no XP > disk > as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and > wanted > to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can > replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). > > If so, how - if not, suggestions? How similar is the new motherboard? If it isn't similar enough, you generally have to rerun the XP install. OEM vendors are required to provide some method of reinstalling XP, which means a CD, recovery partition or a way of making a recovery CD. The original hard disk may have a restore partition (particularly if there's no CD) that can be accessed at boot time. HTH -pk
Guest B.Franklin Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o According to the tech, the Hard Disk needs to be "repaired" via the XP repair function. My big question is, can this be done on a different system that's running XP64Pro - if it can, I'll pull the machine out of the shop and do it myself. "Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote: > That would depend on what needs to be "repaired". > > -- > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart > Display\Security > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes > http://www.dougknox.com > -------------------------------- > Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm > -------------------------------- > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered. > > "B.Franklin" <B.Franklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:ECAB9A5E-CDCA-434A-BF2C-5D254F4AB44F@microsoft.com... > > Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no XP > > disk > > as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and > > wanted > > to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can > > replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). > > > > If so, how - if not, suggestions? >
Guest B.Franklin Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o Motherboard is different, I've been told I'll have to "reactivate" XP to allow it to work with the new board (due to OEM version). The tech put the HD into a different machine put can't access it - states it needs to go thru the "repair" process available on XP. As noted in my other reply, can this be done via a different machine running XP64? Real reason is simple. He wants $250 to install a new MB and do the "repair" - it's an older machine (533 Celeron) and I don't want to spend any more than I have to. I can do the labor, and have a 900 Duran MB/Processor combo I can use, so the "repair" part is the only hang-up. If I have to, I'll ask him to do the "repair" part only, but would really like to do it myself (both to keep it cheap and to learn how). "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > "B.Franklin" <B.Franklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:ECAB9A5E-CDCA-434A-BF2C-5D254F4AB44F@microsoft.com... > > Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no XP > > disk > > as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and > > wanted > > to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can > > replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). > > > > If so, how - if not, suggestions? > > How similar is the new motherboard? > > If it isn't similar enough, you generally have to rerun the XP install. > > OEM vendors are required to provide some method of reinstalling XP, which > means a CD, recovery partition or a way of making a recovery CD. > > The original hard disk may have a restore partition (particularly if there's > no CD) that can be accessed at boot time. > > HTH > -pk > > >
Guest Doug Knox - [MS-MVP] Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o It shouldn't hurt to put it in an X64 machine. I would assume that the standard disk utilities would work just fine, but have never tried it. -- Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes http://www.dougknox.com -------------------------------- Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm -------------------------------- Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Unsolicited e-mail is not answered. "B.Franklin" <BFranklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:34F0FBDA-123C-4194-8078-8A71C6B5F7A6@microsoft.com... > According to the tech, the Hard Disk needs to be "repaired" via the XP > repair > function. My big question is, can this be done on a different system > that's > running XP64Pro - if it can, I'll pull the machine out of the shop and do > it > myself. > > "Doug Knox - [MS-MVP]" wrote: > >> That would depend on what needs to be "repaired". >> >> -- >> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart >> Display\Security >> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes >> http://www.dougknox.com >> -------------------------------- >> Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro >> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm >> -------------------------------- >> Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit. >> Unsolicited e-mail is not answered. >> >> "B.Franklin" <B.Franklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:ECAB9A5E-CDCA-434A-BF2C-5D254F4AB44F@microsoft.com... >> > Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no >> > XP >> > disk >> > as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and >> > wanted >> > to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can >> > replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). >> > >> > If so, how - if not, suggestions? >>
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o Re: Dead MB, HD needs repair but no XP disk (OEM) can it be done o "B.Franklin" <BFranklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F3DE9C24-AA46-46EB-80C6-9E28ECE89316@microsoft.com... > Motherboard is different, I've been told I'll have to "reactivate" XP to > allow it to work with the new board (due to OEM version). No, that's not what Activation or repair installs are for. Activation allows the OS to run after a grace period, by getting an authorization code from Microsoft. A Repair install resets the OS install to a default state (plus installed apps) but without updates. > The tech put the > HD into a different machine put can't access it - Don't confuse NTFS permissions (you have to Take Ownership to get past Access Denied messages) with needing a repair install. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421 > states it needs to go thru > the "repair" process available on XP. A repair install, yes. If motherboards are different enough to not boot. > As noted in my other reply, can this > be done via a different machine running XP64? Sorry, you want to do a repar install while the drive is hosted as a secondary drive in an xP64 system? I think this cannot be done, and if it could, you'd have to do it again when you attached it to the real motherboard. Plus, it might negatively affect the boot drive on your x64 system. However, you can Take Ownership and back up your files first, via the x64 system. > Real reason is simple. He wants $250 to install a new MB and do the > "repair" - it's an older machine (533 Celeron) and I don't want to spend > any > more than I have to. I can do the labor, and have a 900 Duran > MB/Processor > combo I can use, so the "repair" part is the only hang-up. If I have to, > I'll ask him to do the "repair" part only, but would really like to do it > myself (both to keep it cheap and to learn how). To do a repair install, you assemble the system, boot from CD, follow the prompts to perform a Repair install - not use the Recovery Console. Aside from paying attention to where it's installing, and not formatting it if that isn't what you wanted to do, it's pretty straightforward. Once it's done, be sure to install motherboard drivers right away, as key hardware (NIC, video, audio) probably won't work properly. HTH -pk > > > "Patrick Keenan" wrote: > >> "B.Franklin" <B.Franklin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:ECAB9A5E-CDCA-434A-BF2C-5D254F4AB44F@microsoft.com... >> > Here's the deal - MB died, tech says HD needs repair thru XP. Got no >> > XP >> > disk >> > as it was an OEM install. DO have another machine running XP64, and >> > wanted >> > to know if I can repair the old HD in the XP64 machine (that way I can >> > replace the MB and put the HD back into the old machine). >> > >> > If so, how - if not, suggestions? >> >> How similar is the new motherboard? >> >> If it isn't similar enough, you generally have to rerun the XP install. >> >> OEM vendors are required to provide some method of reinstalling XP, which >> means a CD, recovery partition or a way of making a recovery CD. >> >> The original hard disk may have a restore partition (particularly if >> there's >> no CD) that can be accessed at boot time. >> >> HTH >> -pk >> >> >>
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