Guest *69 Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it offsite nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. Thank you
Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups *69 <no@spam.com> wrote: > I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it > offsite nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was > successful, could you provide me with a link to the make/model you > purchased. > Thank you You can use tape if you wish (NTBackup will write to it just fine), but a decent tape drive will require a SCSI interface and won't be cheap (although you could look for used ones on ebay/etc). It might be better to use multiple USB hard drives & swap them out for offsite storage. "Inexpensive" is difficult to quantify....much depends on how much data you can afford to lose. There are plenty of 'inexpensive' online backup services that will charge you a nominal fee per month for offsite backups - look at http://www.intronis.com for one I'm particularly fond of.
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: >I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it offsite >nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. You've been outta the loop for about 10 years, right?
Guest *69 Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups I should add, data that needs to be backed up is about 40 gig "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:NMQui.46466$rX4.10426@pd7urf2no... >I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it >offsite nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, > could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. > > Thank you >
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: >I should add, data that needs to be backed up is about 40 gig And you are leaning towards "tape backup"? Are you a troll?
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups Uncle Grumpy <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote: >"*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: > >>I should add, data that needs to be backed up is about 40 gig > >And you are leaning towards "tape backup"? > >Are you a troll? I shoulda asked: are you a moron?
Guest *69 Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups you have any bright ideas other then your non intelligent gibberish. We use network backups to servers in other cities at work. That's not practical for a home environment, nor do I have that infrastructure.. Other backup used is tapes which hold over 200 gig. I don't plan on using dvds and having to swap all night. So what great plan have you got. "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:v7nnb31vkmlghrv28eaa3tajpi5vcu9u81@4ax.com... > "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: > >>I should add, data that needs to be backed up is about 40 gig > > And you are leaning towards "tape backup"? > > Are you a troll?
Guest *69 Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups if you're going to suggest usb drives...tapes are much cheaper, smaller and you can have retention of backups "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:v7nnb31vkmlghrv28eaa3tajpi5vcu9u81@4ax.com... > "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: > >>I should add, data that needs to be backed up is about 40 gig > > And you are leaning towards "tape backup"? > > Are you a troll?
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: >So what great plan have you got. Has your end of the world been told about external hard drives yet? Or about installing an extra INTERNAL hard drive?
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: >if you're going to suggest usb drives...tapes are much cheaper, smaller and >you can have retention of backups Go for it baby. You know everything.
Guest Al Dykes Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups In article <NMQui.46466$rX4.10426@pd7urf2no>, *69 <no@spam.com> wrote: >I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it offsite >nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > >Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, >could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. > >Thank you > > IMO, Tape is the worst kind of backup for non-corporate use. The cheap drives are crap and the chances of buying one that works on your next computer and can read last years tapes is zero unless you buy the heavy duty stuff, which isn't cheap. The backup software is crap, too. You need to think about what you plan to backup and how to recover. Most users need to backup their work files daily and for most people, CDR disks are good enough and the price is right. Keep several generations, store them in a cool, dry place and always do a readback verification when you do a backup. I'd sugggest reading the data back on a different computer just in case the CR burner has gone bad. Systems need a full backup. You'd be amazed at how many bits of software you've installed off the internet and bow many some of us have paid for, a few bucks at a time. Nobody ever keeps proper records and the software companies make big bucks selling you your software twice or more times. I use a good backup tool, Acronis and I do full backups to a second disk. I use CDR disks for my work product. Online backup is getting cheap. You can get 2GB from Google, for free. My problem with online storage done in a dumb manner is that generations of files are not stored. If your disk dies in teh middle of backup to an Internet service, you ight find you've lost all instances of your file. Everyone should give this a read; http://www.taobackup.com/ -- a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
Guest *69 Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups You're a joke. If you read the original post, "securely store it offsite". Your solution of an internal hard drive doesn't cut it "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:83onb35u40kjqc6qiaistvctohadn38ic8@4ax.com... > "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: > >>So what great plan have you got. > > Has your end of the world been told about external hard drives yet? > > Or about installing an extra INTERNAL hard drive?
Guest Lil' Dave Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:NMQui.46466$rX4.10426@pd7urf2no... >I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it >offsite nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, > could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. > > Thank you > Your replies to uncle grumpy have revealed that: 1. You're backing up your home computer. 2. The backup (compression wasn't mentioned, so I'll assume its not) is about 40GB. 3. You've already determined it has to be a tape backup. 4. You're assuming that the backup will work on a replacement PC, I'm guessing, if the need arises. Due to 3. and 4., I can't help you. Have a nice day. Dave
Guest sdlomi2 Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:pvRui.46865$rX4.881@pd7urf2no... > You're a joke. If you read the original post, "securely store it > offsite". > > Your solution of an internal hard drive doesn't cut it > > "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message > news:83onb35u40kjqc6qiaistvctohadn38ic8@4ax.com... >> "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: >> >>>So what great plan have you got. >> >> Has your end of the world been told about external hard drives yet? >> >> Or about installing an extra INTERNAL hard drive? > > Either get an external h/d or an enclosure and insert whatever h/d you wish. USB-connections are fast and allow you to instantly remove the ext. unit & take offsite. HTH, s
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:17:01 GMT, "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote: > I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it offsite > nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, > could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. I'll echo what others have already said. Tape is no longer a viable backup medium for personal computers. It's expensive, slow, and unreliable. The best choice by far is an external USB drive. Yes, it costs more than a reel of tape, but not very much more, and you don't have the expense of buying the tape drive. Even better is having two such drives. Alternate their use each day, and swap them at the offsite location. You can buy a 40GB (you said in another message that's how much data you need to back up) hard drive for $30 US or so, and a USB enclosure for it for around $20. Two of each will set you back only $100 or a little more, and it's a much better choice than tape. I'd actually recommend spending a little more and getting two 80GB drives instead of 40s, so there's room left for growth. An 80GB drive can be bought for as little as $46. See http://www.google.com/products?q=80GB+hard+drive&show=dd -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Panic Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups I would get an external USB drive. You can get them for under a hundred dollars. That way you don't have to scroll through a tape to find things. And there is no further expense to buy media. "*69" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:NMQui.46466$rX4.10426@pd7urf2no... >I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it >offsite nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, > could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. > > Thank you >
Guest Vista Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups *69 wrote: > I need an inexpensive way to backup by data and to securely store it offsite > nightly. My thoughts lean towards tape backups. > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, > could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. > > Thank you Tape backups went out like videos did with Betamax. Do yourself a favour and get Acronis True Image (http://www.acronis.com) and a USB external hard disk. Vi
Guest Vista Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups *69 wrote: > if you're going to suggest usb drives...tapes are much cheaper, smaller and > you can have retention of backups What planet are you on? Vi
Guest HeyBub Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups *69 wrote: > you have any bright ideas other then your non intelligent gibberish. > > We use network backups to servers in other cities at work. That's not > practical for a home environment, nor do I have that infrastructure.. > Other backup used is tapes which hold over 200 gig. > > I don't plan on using dvds and having to swap all night. > > So what great plan have you got. Tapes? TAPES? This is SPARTA! Use an external hard drive.
Guest Plato Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Inexpensive Backups *69 wrote: > > Has anyone used tape backups on an XP pPro machine and it was successful, > could you provide me with a link to the make/model you purchased. No, dont use a tape backup. Anything but tape. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/
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