Guest Jethro Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I am! This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work. In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as: Proto Local Address Foreign Address State TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening. But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my LEFT machine. I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not listening' and it should be. So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT machine is listening on port 3389?
Guest Robert Moir Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:mamrb39q3f4papat26a61hsmjrmcpbhjiq@4ax.com... > You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I > am! > > This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work. > > In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see > a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as: > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State > TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING > > and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to > the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening. > > But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my > LEFT machine. > > I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT > machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not > listening' and it should be. > > So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT > machine is listening on port 3389? Not so simple. Talking about ports essentially means you're talking about surgery when all that should be needed is a plaster. I'm assuming your 'left' machine is an XP Pro machine? Right-Click My Computer, choose properties. Click the 'Remote' tab. In "Remote Desktop", ensure that 'Allow users to connect remotely to this computer' is ticked, and press OK. This 'should' be all you need to do. Are you saying you've tried this and got nowhere?
Guest Jack \(MVP-Networking\). Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Hi The computer that is idle with the Remote Desktop Host On is the one that is listening. Jack (MVP-Networking). "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:mamrb39q3f4papat26a61hsmjrmcpbhjiq@4ax.com... > You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I > am! > > This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work. > > In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see > a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as: > > Proto Local Address Foreign Address State > TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING > > and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to > the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening. > > But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my > LEFT machine. > > I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT > machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not > listening' and it should be. > > So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT > machine is listening on port 3389?
Guest Jethro Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:11:22 +0100, "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:mamrb39q3f4papat26a61hsmjrmcpbhjiq@4ax.com... >> You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I >> am! >> >> This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work. >> >> In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see >> a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as: >> >> Proto Local Address Foreign Address State >> TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING >> >> and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to >> the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening. >> >> But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my >> LEFT machine. >> >> I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT >> machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not >> listening' and it should be. >> >> So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT >> machine is listening on port 3389? > >Not so simple. Talking about ports essentially means you're talking about >surgery when all that should be needed is a plaster. I'm assuming your >'left' machine is an XP Pro machine? Both are - sorry. > >Right-Click My Computer, choose properties. >Click the 'Remote' tab. >In "Remote Desktop", ensure that 'Allow users to connect remotely to this >computer' is ticked, and press OK. I right-clicked on My Computer and selected Properties on both machines - I don't see any 'Remote Tab' on either. Now then - Control Panel>System does produce the Remote Tab. An yes I have that option checked on both machines. > >This 'should' be all you need to do. Are you saying you've tried this and >got nowhere? Yep Thanks Jethro >
Guest Jethro Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:34:31 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >Hi >The computer that is idle with the Remote Desktop Host On is the one that is >listening. >Jack (MVP-Networking). > Hi back. Can both machines be listening at same time? IOW, normally one would have one host and one or more remotes. I have two machines that I want to be able to run one's apps etc on the other - my choice as to which, but of course, only one connection would (could) be active at the same time. Is that reasonable? Thanks Jethro >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:mamrb39q3f4papat26a61hsmjrmcpbhjiq@4ax.com... >> You readers probably are saying, Oh No - here he is again - and here I >> am! >> >> This is another try to make my Remote Desktop Connection work. >> >> In the 'active connections' result from command 'netstat -a', I see >> a line on my so-called RIGHT machine as: >> >> Proto Local Address Foreign Address State >> TCP RIGHT:3389 RIGHT:0 LISTENING >> >> and, as I have said in the past, I can connect from my LEFT machine to >> the RIGHT machine just fine. So, indeed, RIGHT machine is listening. >> >> But, as I also have said, I cannot connect from my RIGHT machine to my >> LEFT machine. >> >> I don't have the above 'listening' line in the 'NETSTAT -a' on my LEFT >> machine. I'm thinking maybe my problem is that my LEFT machine is not >> listening' and it should be. >> >> So, a simple question. How and where do I create that line so LEFT >> machine is listening on port 3389?
Guest Robert Moir Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:llrrb39dmh3uq4jna4rp0uuf6sm72kn5bh@4ax.com... > I right-clicked on My Computer and selected Properties on both > machines - I don't see any 'Remote Tab' on either. Now then - Control > Panel>System does produce the Remote Tab. An yes I have that option > checked on both machines. > >> >>This 'should' be all you need to do. Are you saying you've tried this and >>got nowhere? > > Yep Right. Still in control panel, open up Performance and Maintenance, Administrative Tools and then run services. Scroll down to the service named "Terminal Services". Is it started? If not, what happens when you start it? Still in administrative tools, open Event Viewer. Have a look in system for errors relating to services having trouble starting at boot time in general, and of course pay special interest to problems recorded with the terminal server service. I'd also be thinking of double-checking my firewall about this time to make sure that isn't treading on things. This is one of those "really, it should 'just work'" kinda things so it's odd that you're having issues, I wonder if something is killing it at startup or if some settings got mixed up.
Guest Jethro Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:14:52 +0100, "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:llrrb39dmh3uq4jna4rp0uuf6sm72kn5bh@4ax.com... > >> I right-clicked on My Computer and selected Properties on both >> machines - I don't see any 'Remote Tab' on either. Now then - Control >> Panel>System does produce the Remote Tab. An yes I have that option >> checked on both machines. >> >>> >>>This 'should' be all you need to do. Are you saying you've tried this and >>>got nowhere? >> >> Yep > >Right. Still in control panel, open up Performance and Maintenance, >Administrative Tools and then run services. > >Scroll down to the service named "Terminal Services". Is it started? If not, >what happens when you start it? On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working (for the first time!!!!). > >Still in administrative tools, open Event Viewer. Have a look in system for >errors relating to services having trouble starting at boot time in general, >and of course pay special interest to problems recorded with the terminal >server service. I'd also be thinking of double-checking my firewall about >this time to make sure that isn't treading on things. > >This is one of those "really, it should 'just work'" kinda things so it's >odd that you're having issues, I wonder if something is killing it at >startup or if some settings got mixed up. > > Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would learn from me by following what I would do. I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. Jethro
Guest Robert Moir Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... > On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! > for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working > (for the first time!!!!). Glad we're getting there :) > Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say > LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and > displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is > designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is > controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this > way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his > machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would > learn from me by following what I would do. > > I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method" but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I think it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away over the webs. What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. (http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac, Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's flexable that way. But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you want so you might want to give it a go. > Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones we never dare to ask!
Guest Jethro Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >> (for the first time!!!!). > >Glad we're getting there :) > >> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >> learn from me by following what I would do. >> >> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? > >Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method" >but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I think >it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away >over the webs. > >What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac, >Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >flexable that way. > >But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you want >so you might want to give it a go. > >> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. > >Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones we >never dare to ask! Thanks again. May the Red Sox start winning again! Jethro
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >> (for the first time!!!!). > >Glad we're getting there :) > >> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >> learn from me by following what I would do. >> >> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? > >Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method" >but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I think >it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away >over the webs. > >What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac, >Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >flexable that way. Hey Robert - I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC looks like something I'd like to try to use. Thanks Jethro > >But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you want >so you might want to give it a go. > >> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. > >Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones we >never dare to ask! >
Guest Robert Moir Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... > > Hey Robert - > I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on > both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from > RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, > However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! > I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any > idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC > looks like something I'd like to try to use. tried with the tcp/ip address? Also, try setting the ports differently on each one, e.g. for your left machine set the VNC port to 5900 (might well be the default) and the right hand one to 5901.
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:54:55 +0100, "Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... > >> >> Hey Robert - >> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >> looks like something I'd like to try to use. > >tried with the tcp/ip address? Yes - both RIGHT and ###.###.#.### >Also, try setting the ports differently on each one, e.g. for your left >machine set the VNC port to 5900 (might well be the default) and the right >hand one to 5901. > I have to ask out of ignorance again - netstat on LEFT machine clearly shows listening on 3389, 5800, AND 5900 for 'Local Address LEFT:..... but RIGHT machine does only shows listening on right:3389, but neither 5800 or 5900. So how do I set the ports on RIGHT machine? Thanks Jethro
Guest Jack \(MVP-Networking\). Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Hi May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html Jack (MVP-Networking). "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" > <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >> >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>> (for the first time!!!!). >> >>Glad we're getting there :) >> >>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>> >>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >> >>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method" >>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>think >>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away >>over the webs. >> >>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac, >>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>flexable that way. > > Hey Robert - > I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on > both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from > RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, > However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! > I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any > idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC > looks like something I'd like to try to use. > Thanks > Jethro >> >>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>want >>so you might want to give it a go. >> >>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >> >>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones >>we >>never dare to ask! >>
Guest Robert Moir Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:1saub39slsda9rku72pgroufg2fd48ogcg@4ax.com... > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:54:55 +0100, "Robert Moir" > <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > >> >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >> >>> >>> Hey Robert - >>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >> >>tried with the tcp/ip address? > > Yes - both RIGHT and ###.###.#.### > >>Also, try setting the ports differently on each one, e.g. for your left >>machine set the VNC port to 5900 (might well be the default) and the right >>hand one to 5901. >> > > I have to ask out of ignorance again - netstat on LEFT machine clearly > shows listening on 3389, 5800, AND 5900 for 'Local Address > LEFT:..... > but RIGHT machine does only shows listening on right:3389, but > neither 5800 or 5900. > So how do I set the ports on RIGHT machine? This suggests that VNC isn't installed as a service (At least, not correctly) or isn't starting. I'd go through the VNC server preferences again, making sure to configure it to run automatically.
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >Hi >May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >Jack (MVP-Networking). Hi Jack - I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication Failed'. Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. Thanks Jethro > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>> >>>Glad we're getting there :) >>> >>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>> >>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>> >>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method" >>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>think >>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away >>>over the webs. >>> >>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac, >>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>flexable that way. >> >> Hey Robert - >> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >> Thanks >> Jethro >>> >>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>want >>>so you might want to give it a go. >>> >>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>> >>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones >>>we >>>never dare to ask! >>>
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >Hi >May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >Jack (MVP-Networking). Hi Jack - I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication Failed'. Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. Thanks Jethro > >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>> >>>Glad we're getting there :) >>> >>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>> >>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>> >>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft Method" >>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>think >>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles away >>>over the webs. >>> >>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple Mac, >>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>flexable that way. >> >> Hey Robert - >> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >> Thanks >> Jethro >>> >>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>want >>>so you might want to give it a go. >>> >>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>> >>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones >>>we >>>never dare to ask! >>>
Guest Jack \(MVP-Networking\). Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Hi Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the destination computer's IP). Jack (MVP-Networking). "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:gvhub3h7o12a8hsb8pfdldh1203dtsb10n@4ax.com... > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." > <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: > >>Hi >>May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >>Jack (MVP-Networking). > > Hi Jack - > > I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. > I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port > 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. > Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - > after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect > from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication > Failed'. > > Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. > > Thanks > > Jethro >> >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >>> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >>>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>>> >>>>Glad we're getting there :) >>>> >>>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >>>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>>> >>>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>>> >>>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft >>>>Method" >>>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>>think >>>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles >>>>away >>>>over the webs. >>>> >>>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >>>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple >>>>Mac, >>>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>>flexable that way. >>> >>> Hey Robert - >>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >>> Thanks >>> Jethro >>>> >>>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>>want >>>>so you might want to give it a go. >>>> >>>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>>> >>>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones >>>>we >>>>never dare to ask! >>>>
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:03:04 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >Hi >Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to >see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the destination >computer's IP). >Jack (MVP-Networking). For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910 Same thing - VNC Authentication failed. >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:gvhub3h7o12a8hsb8pfdldh1203dtsb10n@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >> >>>Hi >>>May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >> >> Hi Jack - >> >> I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. >> I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port >> 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. >> Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - >> after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect >> from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication >> Failed'. >> >> Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jethro >>> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >>>> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was disabled! >>>>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>>>> >>>>>Glad we're getting there :) >>>>> >>>>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, say >>>>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>>>> >>>>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft >>>>>Method" >>>>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>>>think >>>>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles >>>>>away >>>>>over the webs. >>>>> >>>>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an experience >>>>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple >>>>>Mac, >>>>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>>>flexable that way. >>>> >>>> Hey Robert - >>>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >>>> Thanks >>>> Jethro >>>>> >>>>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>>>want >>>>>so you might want to give it a go. >>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>>>> >>>>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the ones >>>>>we >>>>>never dare to ask! >>>>>
Guest Sooner Al [MVP] Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:bcoub39cvbaip1cs9uaan6s9o5f012v39t@4ax.com... > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:03:04 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." > <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: > >>Hi >>Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to >>see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the >>destination >>computer's IP). >>Jack (MVP-Networking). > > For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910 > > Same thing - VNC Authentication failed. > > >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:gvhub3h7o12a8hsb8pfdldh1203dtsb10n@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >>> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hi >>>>May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >>>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >>> >>> Hi Jack - >>> >>> I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. >>> I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port >>> 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. >>> Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - >>> after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect >>> from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication >>> Failed'. >>> >>> Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jethro >>>> >>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >>>>> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was >>>>>>> disabled! >>>>>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>>>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>>>>> >>>>>>Glad we're getting there :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, >>>>>>> say >>>>>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>>>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>>>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>>>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>>>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>>>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>>>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>>>>> >>>>>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft >>>>>>Method" >>>>>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>>>>think >>>>>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles >>>>>>away >>>>>>over the webs. >>>>>> >>>>>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>>>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an >>>>>>experience >>>>>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>>>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple >>>>>>Mac, >>>>>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>>>>flexable that way. >>>>> >>>>> Hey Robert - >>>>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>>>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>>>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>>>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>>>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>>>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>>>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Jethro >>>>>> >>>>>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>>>>want >>>>>>so you might want to give it a go. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>>>>> >>>>>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the >>>>>>ones >>>>>>we >>>>>>never dare to ask! >>>>>> For a non-standard port use the IP address followed by two colon characters then the port number... 192.168.0.100::5910 Here is an explanation of the Viewer settings... http://www.uvnc.com/install/viewerconfig.html Here is an explanation of the Server settings... http://www.uvnc.com/install/configuration.html -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:50:55 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:bcoub39cvbaip1cs9uaan6s9o5f012v39t@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:03:04 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >> >>>Hi >>>Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to >>>see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the >>>destination >>>computer's IP). >>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >> >> For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910 >> >> Same thing - VNC Authentication failed. >> >> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:gvhub3h7o12a8hsb8pfdldh1203dtsb10n@4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >>>> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi >>>>>May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >>>>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >>>> >>>> Hi Jack - >>>> >>>> I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. >>>> I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port >>>> 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. >>>> Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - >>>> after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect >>>> from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication >>>> Failed'. >>>> >>>> Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jethro >>>>> >>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >>>>>> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was >>>>>>>> disabled! >>>>>>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>>>>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Glad we're getting there :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, >>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>>>>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>>>>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>>>>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>>>>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>>>>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>>>>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft >>>>>>>Method" >>>>>>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>>>>>think >>>>>>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles >>>>>>>away >>>>>>>over the webs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>>>>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an >>>>>>>experience >>>>>>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>>>>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple >>>>>>>Mac, >>>>>>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>>>>>flexable that way. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Robert - >>>>>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>>>>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>>>>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>>>>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>>>>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>>>>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>>>>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Jethro >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>>>>>want >>>>>>>so you might want to give it a go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the >>>>>>>ones >>>>>>>we >>>>>>>never dare to ask! >>>>>>> > >For a non-standard port use the IP address followed by two colon characters >then the port number... > >192.168.0.100::5910 Aw geez! I get same error response with this too. I'll take a look at the explanation and get back to U. Thanks Jethro > >Here is an explanation of the Viewer settings... > >http://www.uvnc.com/install/viewerconfig.html > >Here is an explanation of the Server settings... > >http://www.uvnc.com/install/configuration.html
Guest Jethro Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:44:49 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: >On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:50:55 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" ><SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: > >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:bcoub39cvbaip1cs9uaan6s9o5f012v39t@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:03:04 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >>> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Hi >>>>Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to >>>>see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the >>>>destination >>>>computer's IP). >>>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >>> >>> For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910 >>> >>> Same thing - VNC Authentication failed. >>> >>> >>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>news:gvhub3h7o12a8hsb8pfdldh1203dtsb10n@4ax.com... >>>>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >>>>> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi >>>>>>May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >>>>>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jack - >>>>> >>>>> I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. >>>>> I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port >>>>> 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. >>>>> Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - >>>>> after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect >>>>> from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication >>>>> Failed'. >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jethro >>>>>> >>>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >>>>>>> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was >>>>>>>>> disabled! >>>>>>>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>>>>>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Glad we're getting there :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, >>>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>>>>>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>>>>>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>>>>>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>>>>>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>>>>>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>>>>>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft >>>>>>>>Method" >>>>>>>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>>>>>>think >>>>>>>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles >>>>>>>>away >>>>>>>>over the webs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>>>>>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an >>>>>>>>experience >>>>>>>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>>>>>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple >>>>>>>>Mac, >>>>>>>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>>>>>>flexable that way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Robert - >>>>>>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>>>>>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>>>>>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>>>>>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>>>>>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>>>>>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>>>>>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Jethro >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>>>>>>want >>>>>>>>so you might want to give it a go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the >>>>>>>>ones >>>>>>>>we >>>>>>>>never dare to ask! >>>>>>>> >> >>For a non-standard port use the IP address followed by two colon characters >>then the port number... >> >>192.168.0.100::5910 > >Aw geez! I get same error response with this too. >I'll take a look at the explanation and get back to U. > >Thanks > >Jethro I looked at the explanations, and see nothing significant except maybe something 'video hook driver' which I see nowhere. I tried un-installing UltraVNC on both machines and re-installing it, but I saw nothing about 'hook' there either. So - I am stuck as to what to do now. Oh well... Jethro >> >>Here is an explanation of the Viewer settings... >> >>http://www.uvnc.com/install/viewerconfig.html >> >>Here is an explanation of the Server settings... >> >>http://www.uvnc.com/install/configuration.html
Guest Sooner Al [MVP] Posted August 13, 2007 Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:th1vb355001p3nkos2u07dl996v03vlhab@4ax.com... > On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:44:49 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: > The video hook driver is installed on the XP server machine. You can download that from the UltraVNC site. An authentication error would seem to point to a password problem or something similar. When I used UltraVNC, a long long long long long time ago, I never checked the two MS Logon checkboxes in the server config authentication windows. I did require a password which I configured in that window. Except for a unique password or a change in the listening port or use of the encryption plug-in I used the default settings, as far as I can remember... There is also support available on the UltraVNC forums... http://forum.ultravnc.info/ I don't use UltraVNC any longer so that is the best I can say... Good luck... -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
Guest Jethro Posted August 13, 2007 Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:50:55 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:bcoub39cvbaip1cs9uaan6s9o5f012v39t@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:03:04 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >> >>>Hi >>>Put one computer VNC Host's port at 5910 and when you invoke the Viewer to >>>see it type: 192.168.1.1:5910 (IP number is an example, type the >>>destination >>>computer's IP). >>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >> >> For me, it was 192.168.0.100:5910 >> >> Same thing - VNC Authentication failed. >> >> >>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>news:gvhub3h7o12a8hsb8pfdldh1203dtsb10n@4ax.com... >>>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 12:00:00 -0400, "Jack \(MVP-Networking\)." >>>> <jack@discussiongroup.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi >>>>>May be this can Help, , http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html >>>>>Jack (MVP-Networking). >>>> >>>> Hi Jack - >>>> >>>> I downloaded & installed UltraVNC to both machines - LEFT and RIGHT. >>>> I activated the VNC server on each machine and told it to use Port >>>> 5900 and to require login and password. Same on both machines. >>>> Now I find that RIGHT machine can connect to LEFT machine just fine - >>>> after I enter login and password of course. However, I cannot connect >>>> from LEFT machine to RIGHT machine. It says 'VNC Authentication >>>> Failed'. >>>> >>>> Any ideas please? The UltraVNC program looks neat. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jethro >>>>> >>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:e21ub353edd324bepjpg5c835n24jrmt8k@4ax.com... >>>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:26 +0100, "Robert Moir" >>>>>> <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:ij4sb3ha3khcnskefgkagf4snm5pipntv8@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On RIGHT machine, it was started, but on LEFT machine it was >>>>>>>> disabled! >>>>>>>> for some reason. I enabled & started it, and now things are working >>>>>>>> (for the first time!!!!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Glad we're getting there :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I have another question - I notice that when a remote machine, >>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>> LEFT, is connected to RIGHT machine, the latter is locked out and >>>>>>>> displays only a login screen. This may be how Remote Desktop is >>>>>>>> designed, but I am used to PCANYWHERE wherein when a remote is >>>>>>>> controlling a 'host's' machine, the latter can be observed. In this >>>>>>>> way, when I was on a remote machine, I could 'show' a user on his >>>>>>>> machine exactly what I was doing, and by so doing, that user would >>>>>>>> learn from me by following what I would do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess that is not possible with Remote Desktop? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not as such. Look at Remote Assistance for the "approved Microsoft >>>>>>>Method" >>>>>>>but I'm not sure how that plays on two machines on the same network, I >>>>>>>think >>>>>>>it's designed to allow you to fix someone else's computer from miles >>>>>>>away >>>>>>>over the webs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What I use for something like that is a freeware program called VNC. >>>>>>>(http://www.realvnc.com/download.html) which will give you an >>>>>>>experience >>>>>>>much more like PC Anywhere. I myself love VNC because I don't just run >>>>>>>Windows and VNC allows me to sit at my PC and remote control my Apple >>>>>>>Mac, >>>>>>>Windows Smartphone or just about anything else you can think of, it's >>>>>>>flexable that way. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Robert - >>>>>> I thought I'd take a look at free VNC, and downloaded/installed it on >>>>>> both my LEFT and RIGHT machines. I find it works great going from >>>>>> RIGHT to LEFT. and is similar to what I remember from PCA, >>>>>> However (here we go again), I can't get VNC to work LEFT to RIGHT! >>>>>> I get an error window - 'Unable to connect to host'. Do you have any >>>>>> idea what I might try to get it to work? I wouldn't ask, but VNC >>>>>> looks like something I'd like to try to use. >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Jethro >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But going back to the point, it's also quite simple for doing what you >>>>>>>want >>>>>>>so you might want to give it a go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway, thanks a meg for you help. Sorry to be so dense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Happy to help - and you know the only truly silly questions are the >>>>>>>ones >>>>>>>we >>>>>>>never dare to ask! >>>>>>> > >For a non-standard port use the IP address followed by two colon characters >then the port number... > >192.168.0.100::5910 > >Here is an explanation of the Viewer settings... > >http://www.uvnc.com/install/viewerconfig.html > >Here is an explanation of the Server settings... > >http://www.uvnc.com/install/configuration.html New day - new thoughts. 1) The server tutorial above clearly says to 'check yes to the hook options during installations'. I have tried re-install twice and still have never seen this feature, during installation or after. Makes me wonder a little. Maybe the latest version or the free version does not have this option, if that is what it is. 2) Anyway, I have UltraVNC working now. I found when I removed the requirement of entering a login with a password, and instead did connect with a password ONLY, that I was able to connect both ways. RIGHT <=> LEFT. So I am in business. 3) I do notice something strange, though. I use a wide-screen LCD monitor and use a resolution of 1280X768 because it was the only resolution that my two machines' video cards would provide that would fill the full screen width properly. Well, I notice that when I connect from RIGHT to LEFT, and then quit the connect, RIGHT's desktop icons are all squeezed leftward, and I have to manually move them back to desktop's right edge. This does not happen on LEFT machine when I connect and then un-connect from RIGHT machine. Seems strange to me. Thanks for helps Jethro
Guest Jethro Posted August 13, 2007 Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:51:42 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >news:th1vb355001p3nkos2u07dl996v03vlhab@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:44:49 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: >> >The video hook driver is installed on the XP server machine. You can >download that from the UltraVNC site. I wish I knew what a 'video hook driver' would do for me. Do you know? Jethro > >An authentication error would seem to point to a password problem or >something similar. When I used UltraVNC, a long long long long long time >ago, I never checked the two MS Logon checkboxes in the server config >authentication windows. I did require a password which I configured in that >window. Except for a unique password or a change in the listening port or >use of the encryption plug-in I used the default settings, as far as I can >remember... > >There is also support available on the UltraVNC forums... > >http://forum.ultravnc.info/ > >I don't use UltraVNC any longer so that is the best I can say... > >Good luck...
Guest Sooner Al [MVP] Posted August 13, 2007 Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I want to add 'listening-port' as an 'active connection' "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:plg0c3l3bedh0af3dj21n2rhscgl51l60o@4ax.com... > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 05:51:42 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]" > <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote: > >>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message >>news:th1vb355001p3nkos2u07dl996v03vlhab@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:44:49 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: >>> >>The video hook driver is installed on the XP server machine. You can >>download that from the UltraVNC site. > > I wish I knew what a 'video hook driver' would do for me. Do you > know? > > Jethro > Have you tried going to the UltraVNC web site and reading about it? -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
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