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Guest BeeGee
Posted

Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

 

My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

 

Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

"Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows directory

without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse option. Why is

this?

 

Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include all

Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

 

I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the whole

local drive including all Windows directories (without additional user

intervention and key stokes)

 

Thank you.

 

BG

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Guest Curt Christianson
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

Hi BG,

 

Without trying to make any excuses for XP's search engine (I don't like it

either, and it's sloowww), try using Agent Ransack. It's free *and* fast!

 

http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

 

--

HTH,

Curt

 

Windows Support Center

http://www.aumha.org

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http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

 

"BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

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| Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

|

| My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

|

| Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

| "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows

directory

| without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse option. Why is

| this?

|

| Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include

all

| Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

|

| I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the whole

| local drive including all Windows directories (without additional user

| intervention and key stokes)

|

| Thank you.

|

| BG

|

|

|

|

Guest Robert Moir
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

 

"BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

news:f9pue40anr@enews5.newsguy.com...

> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>

> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>

> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

> "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows

> directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse option.

> Why is this?

>

> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include

> all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

>

> I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the whole

> local drive including all Windows directories (without additional user

> intervention and key stokes)

 

I'd have to agree. I'll suggest Copernic's desktop search which is free,

fast and reliable.

Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

BG

 

In Look In select My Computer. Check Advanced Options, and first three

options namely "Search System Folders", "Search Hidden Files and

Folders", "Search Sub-Folders".

 

The Vista Search engine is unsatisfactory but I find that in XP

perfectly adequate for this task!

 

Fir good measure. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View,

Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and

folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is

unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You

should also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known

file types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,

Details is selected and then select View, Choose Details and check

before Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still

certain folders that remain hidden and this regularly prompts discussion

about "lost" disk space. The System Volume Information folders

containing System Restore points, which by default is allocated 12% of

the drive /

partition, is just one example of what remains hidden.

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

BeeGee wrote:

> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>

> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>

> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the

> option "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any

> Windows directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the

> Browse option. Why is this?

>

> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to

> include all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C,

> for example?

> I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the

> whole local drive including all Windows directories (without

> additional user intervention and key stokes)

>

> Thank you.

>

> BG

Guest Trinny
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

BeeGee wrote:

> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>

> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>

> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

> "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows directory

> without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse option. Why is

> this?

>

> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include all

> Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

>

> I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the whole

> local drive including all Windows directories (without additional user

> intervention and key stokes)

>

> Thank you.

>

> BG

 

 

Microsoft sucks - try LINUX

Guest BeeGee
Posted

Advanced Options box : XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

Advanced Options box : XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

Thank you for your extraordinarily thorough suggestions, Gerry, your

suggestions were/are VERY HELPFUL indeed. :o)

 

Interestingly, I did have the three Advanced Options checked. However, what

I discovered after reading your reply is that I have to continuously RECHECK

the Advanced Options box EVERY time I conduct a search.

 

Given your suggestions, with my XP O/S, as a test, I conducted a search for

a file that was located in C:\Windows\System32\DirectX\Dinput. What I

discovered was that with Look In set to My Computer, the Search did not find

the file, and with Look In set to Local Hard Drives (C:), it did - but, I

had to make certain that Advanced Options was CHECKED. After closing

Search, then reopening it, once again, I have to CHECK the Advanced Options

box. I have no idea why Windows XP will not keep this setting and am hoping

you may know.

 

Many thanks once again for your insight and support, Gerry.

 

Brianna

 

 

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> BG

>

> In Look In select My Computer. Check Advanced Options, and first three

> options namely "Search System Folders", "Search Hidden Files and Folders",

> "Search Sub-Folders".

>

> The Vista Search engine is unsatisfactory but I find that in XP perfectly

> adequate for this task!

>

> Fir good measure. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View,

> Advanced Settings and verify that the box before "Show hidden files and

> folders" is checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is

> unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should

> also make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file

> types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is

> selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name, Type,

> Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still certain folders that

> remain hidden and this regularly prompts discussion about "lost" disk

> space. The System Volume Information folders containing System Restore

> points, which by default is allocated 12% of the drive /

> partition, is just one example of what remains hidden.

>

> --

>

>

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Gerry

> ~~~~

> FCA

> Stourport, England

> Enquire, plan and execute

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> BeeGee wrote:

>> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>>

>> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>>

>> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the

>> option "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any

>> Windows directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the

>> Browse option. Why is this?

>>

>> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to

>> include all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C,

>> for example?

>> I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the

>> whole local drive including all Windows directories (without

>> additional user intervention and key stokes)

>>

>> Thank you.

>>

>> BG

>

>

Guest BeeGee
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

Thank you for your suggestion, Robert.

 

I downloaded, installed and tried Copernic DesktopSearch2 and with my XP

O/S, as a test, I conducted a search for a file that was located in

C:\Windows\System32\DirectX\Dinput. Copernic failed. I may have had a

wrong setting somewhere, but as I watched the indexing scroll, I did not see

it index any directory associated with C:\Windows, or any subdirectory. In

addition, I have Windows Indexing Service disabled because I'm not fond of

its impact on non-search engine related performance - accordingly, I was not

fond of Copernic's indexing service as well.

 

Nevertheless, I sincerely appreciate your reply and recommendation, Robert.

 

Many thanks again!!

 

Brianna

 

 

"Robert Moir" <usenet@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote in message

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>

> "BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

> news:f9pue40anr@enews5.newsguy.com...

>> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>>

>> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>>

>> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

>> "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows

>> directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse option.

>> Why is this?

>>

>> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include

>> all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

>>

>> I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the whole

>> local drive including all Windows directories (without additional user

>> intervention and key stokes)

>

> I'd have to agree. I'll suggest Copernic's desktop search which is free,

> fast and reliable.

>

Guest BeeGee
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

Thank you for your reply and recommendation, Curt.

 

If I cannot get Windows XP to perform (as it should), I will download Agent

Ransack and give it a try.

 

I should mention that I have Windows Indexing Service disabled because I'm

not fond of its impact on non-search engine related performance -

accordingly, I hope Agent Ransack does not depend on a similar indexing

service.

 

I sincerely appreciate your reply and recommendation.

 

Many thanks!!

 

Brianna

 

 

"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:evRnrSc3HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Hi BG,

>

> Without trying to make any excuses for XP's search engine (I don't like it

> either, and it's sloowww), try using Agent Ransack. It's free *and* fast!

>

> http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

>

> --

> HTH,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> http://www.aumha.org

> Practically Nerded,...

> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

>

> "BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

> news:f9pue40anr@enews5.newsguy.com...

> | Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

> |

> | My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

> |

> | Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

> | "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows

> directory

> | without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse option. Why is

> | this?

> |

> | Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include

> all

> | Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

> |

> | I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the

> whole

> | local drive including all Windows directories (without additional user

> | intervention and key stokes)

> |

> | Thank you.

> |

> | BG

> |

> |

> |

> |

>

>

Guest Gordon
Posted

Re: Advanced Options box : XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

Re: Advanced Options box : XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

"BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

news:f9qfi201hs9@enews2.newsguy.com...

> Thank you for your extraordinarily thorough suggestions, Gerry, your

> suggestions were/are VERY HELPFUL indeed. :o)

>

> Interestingly, I did have the three Advanced Options checked. However,

> what I discovered after reading your reply is that I have to continuously

> RECHECK the Advanced Options box EVERY time I conduct a search.

>

> Given your suggestions, with my XP O/S, as a test, I conducted a search

> for a file that was located in C:\Windows\System32\DirectX\Dinput. What I

> discovered was that with Look In set to My Computer, the Search did not

> find the file, and with Look In set to Local Hard Drives (C:), it did -

> but, I had to make certain that Advanced Options was CHECKED. After

> closing Search, then reopening it, once again, I have to CHECK the

> Advanced Options box. I have no idea why Windows XP will not keep this

> setting and am hoping you may know.

>

> Many thanks once again for your insight and support, Gerry.

>

> Brianna

 

Download and install Windows Desktop Search - it's MILES better than the

search function that comes with XP.....

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/desktopsearch/default.mspx

Guest HeyBub
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

BeeGee wrote:

> Thank you for your reply and recommendation, Curt.

>

> If I cannot get Windows XP to perform (as it should), I will download

> Agent Ransack and give it a try.

>

> I should mention that I have Windows Indexing Service disabled

> because I'm not fond of its impact on non-search engine related

> performance - accordingly, I hope Agent Ransack does not depend on a

> similar indexing service.

>

> I sincerely appreciate your reply and recommendation.

>

> Many thanks!!

>

> Brianna

 

Even if you CAN get Windows SEARCH working up to snuff, RanSack is superior

in all regards.

Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

The impact of the Indexing Service is most detrimental whilst it is

building the Index and less so later.

 

--

 

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Gerry

~~~~

FCA

Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

BeeGee wrote:

> Thank you for your reply and recommendation, Curt.

>

> If I cannot get Windows XP to perform (as it should), I will download

> Agent Ransack and give it a try.

>

> I should mention that I have Windows Indexing Service disabled

> because I'm not fond of its impact on non-search engine related

> performance - accordingly, I hope Agent Ransack does not depend on a

> similar indexing service.

>

> I sincerely appreciate your reply and recommendation.

>

> Many thanks!!

>

> Brianna

>

>

> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:evRnrSc3HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Hi BG,

>>

>> Without trying to make any excuses for XP's search engine (I don't

>> like it either, and it's sloowww), try using Agent Ransack. It's

>> free *and* fast! http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

>>

>> --

>> HTH,

>> Curt

>>

>> Windows Support Center

>> http://www.aumha.org

>> Practically Nerded,...

>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

>>

>> "BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

>> news:f9pue40anr@enews5.newsguy.com...

>>> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>>>

>>> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>>>

>>> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the

>>> option "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any

>>> Windows directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the

>>> Browse option. Why is this?

>>>

>>> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to

>>> include all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C,

>>> for example? I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that

>>> searched the

>>> whole local drive including all Windows directories (without

>>> additional user intervention and key stokes)

>>>

>>> Thank you.

>>>

>>> BG

Guest BeeGee
Posted

Gerry

 

Gerry

 

After closing Search, then reopening it, once again, I have to CHECK the

Advanced Options box. I have no idea why Windows XP will not keep this

setting and am hoping you may know.

 

 

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:%23RSeAAf3HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> The impact of the Indexing Service is most detrimental whilst it is

> building the Index and less so later.

>

> --

>

>

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Gerry

> ~~~~

> FCA

> Stourport, England

> Enquire, plan and execute

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> BeeGee wrote:

>> Thank you for your reply and recommendation, Curt.

>>

>> If I cannot get Windows XP to perform (as it should), I will download

>> Agent Ransack and give it a try.

>>

>> I should mention that I have Windows Indexing Service disabled

>> because I'm not fond of its impact on non-search engine related

>> performance - accordingly, I hope Agent Ransack does not depend on a

>> similar indexing service.

>>

>> I sincerely appreciate your reply and recommendation.

>>

>> Many thanks!!

>>

>> Brianna

>>

>>

>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:evRnrSc3HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi BG,

>>>

>>> Without trying to make any excuses for XP's search engine (I don't

>>> like it either, and it's sloowww), try using Agent Ransack. It's

>>> free *and* fast! http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

>>>

>>> --

>>> HTH,

>>> Curt

>>>

>>> Windows Support Center

>>> http://www.aumha.org

>>> Practically Nerded,...

>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

>>>

>>> "BeeGee" <postreplytonewsgroup@thanks.today> wrote in message

>>> news:f9pue40anr@enews5.newsguy.com...

>>>> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>>>>

>>>> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>>>>

>>>> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the

>>>> option "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any

>>>> Windows directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the

>>>> Browse option. Why is this?

>>>>

>>>> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to

>>>> include all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C,

>>>> for example? I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that

>>>> searched the

>>>> whole local drive including all Windows directories (without

>>>> additional user intervention and key stokes)

>>>>

>>>> Thank you.

>>>>

>>>> BG

>

>

Guest just plain rob
Posted

Re: XP Search Engine SUCKS

 

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:47:13 -0500, BeeGee brought this comment to my

attention:

> Hi and thank you for looking at my posting.

>

> My O/S is Windows XP Home Edition SP2 with all MS updates to date.

>

> Clicking - - Start / Search For Files or Folders / and using the option

> "Search for files or folders named:" does NOT look in any Windows

> directory without specifying the EXACT directory using the Browse

> option. Why is this?

>

> Are there any Registry settings that will broaden the SEARCH to include

> all Windows directories when searching local hard drives C, for example?

>

> I wish XP was more like 98SE and other lesser O/S that searched the

> whole local drive including all Windows directories (without additional

> user intervention and key stokes)

>

> Thank you.

>

> BG

 

 

I'd recommend "Locate" as a replacement XP search engine...


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