Guest Jethro Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list, say by KB#? Where? Thanks Jethro
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour .... > I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. > I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what > 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a > list, say by KB#? > Where? > I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, but it is still a ways off AFAIK. -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest Tom Porterfield Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Jethro wrote: > I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. > I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what > 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list, > say by KB#? > Where? The following query will give you some idea: http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?spid=1173&query=kbwinxpsp3fix -- Tom Porterfield
Guest Gerry Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. HEMI-Powered wrote: > Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour > ... > >> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a >> list, say by KB#? >> Where? >> > I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, but it > is still a ways off AFAIK.
Guest Jethro Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: Re: XP SP3 Details? Re: Re: XP SP3 Details? On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:50:00 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote: >I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of Hotfixes >already issued and Security Updates. > > > >HEMI-Powered wrote: >> Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour >> ... >> >>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a >>> list, say by KB#? >>> Where? >>> >> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, but it >> is still a ways off AFAIK. > Thanks all Jethro
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of > Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. You seem to have the more common spelling of my name. I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not install it on my present PC. My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC, probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences. All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin> >>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such >>> a list, say by KB#? >>> Where? >>> >> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >> but it is still a ways off AFAIK. -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: Re: XP SP3 Details? Re: Re: XP SP3 Details? Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du jour .... >>I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of >>Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. >> >>HEMI-Powered wrote: >>> Jethro added these comments in the current discussion du >>> jour ... >>> >>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of >>>> what 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there >>>> such a list, say by KB#? >>>> Where? >>>> >>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK. >> > Thanks all > Be wary and be careful, Jethro. See my other reply just now and remember, never give Murphy an even break! Have a great day! -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest M.I.5¾ Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? "Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message news:t943c3td4tgkup1sgotds8se4h7l28u1mq@4ax.com... >I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. > I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what > 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list, > say by KB#? > Where? There are certainly many rumours as to what it will contain. Of particular interest is the draconian Digital Right Management that Vista is saddled with. Some users will allegedly already have some of this if they have allowed Windows Media Player 11 to be installed. If your Windows XP SP2 does what you want, why change it?
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:26:47 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote: > I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. No. No date has been announced. Rumor has it that it will be early next year. As with *any* rumor, don't bet the farm on it. > I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what > 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list, > say by KB#? No. No announcements have been made. It is reasonable to expect that it will include as the post-SP2 updates, possibly plus some others. We'll see when it happens. Anything before that is rumor, and again I caution you not to depend on rumors. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Laughingstar~* Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Exactly the reason I program my "Downloads" to be approved by this PC owner--Moi! In a public discussion this week, more than 1/3 of those present said they've bought IMacs b/c MS keeps coming out with new OS, et al, and requiring its consumers to be their R&D. I agree. Its getting to be exhausting. Wake up MS. "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... > Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > >> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of >> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. > > You seem to have the more common spelling of my name. > > I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS > compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad > releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to > be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the > latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be > sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not > think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a > STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially > if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install > maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for > awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto > update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong > philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if > I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that > - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not > install it on my present PC. > > My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user > like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just > fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC, > probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for > multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista > because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very > expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps > that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even > run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach > Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until > I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences. > > All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of > ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with > THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin> > >>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such >>>> a list, say by KB#? >>>> Where? >>>> >>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK. > > -- > HP, aka Jerry
Guest Gerry Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? They are not likely to provide any enhancements. Many see the success of XP as holding back sales of Vista. Microsoft would be foolish to enhance XP if by doing so it reduces current and future cash flow. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HEMI-Powered wrote: > Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > >> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of >> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. > > You seem to have the more common spelling of my name. > > I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS > compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad > releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to > be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the > latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be > sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not > think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a > STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially > if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install > maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for > awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto > update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong > philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if > I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that > - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not > install it on my present PC. > > My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user > like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just > fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC, > probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for > multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista > because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very > expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps > that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even > run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach > Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until > I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences. > > All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of > ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with > THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin> > >>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such >>>> a list, say by KB#? >>>> Where? >>>> >>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK.
Guest Gerry Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Tom Are they all Hotfixes? Many required by a few systems but not by many systems? -- Regards. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Porterfield wrote: > Jethro wrote: >> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such a list, >> say by KB#? >> Where? > > The following query will give you some idea: > > http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?spid=1173&query=kbwinxpsp3fix
Guest Unknown Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Imacs have just as many problems, perhaps even more, than Windows. But you rarely hear about them because there are farther few of them. "Laughingstar~*" <le_sentier_battunospam368@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23lQU5Jo3HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Exactly the reason I program my "Downloads" to be approved by this PC > owner--Moi! In a public discussion this week, more than 1/3 of those > present said they've bought IMacs b/c MS keeps coming out with new OS, et > al, and requiring its consumers to be their R&D. I agree. Its getting to > be exhausting. Wake up MS. > "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message > news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... >> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... >> >>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of >>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. >> >> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name. >> >> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS >> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad >> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to >> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the >> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be >> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not >> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a >> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially >> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install >> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for >> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto >> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong >> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if >> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that >> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not >> install it on my present PC. >> >> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user >> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just >> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC, >> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for >> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista >> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very >> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps >> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even >> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach >> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until >> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences. >> >> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of >> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with >> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin> >> >>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such >>>>> a list, say by KB#? >>>>> Where? >>>>> >>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK. >> >> -- >> HP, aka Jerry > >
Guest Unknown Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection? programs. "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... > Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > >> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of >> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. > > You seem to have the more common spelling of my name. > > I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS > compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad > releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to > be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the > latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be > sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not > think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a > STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially > if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install > maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for > awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto > update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong > philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if > I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that > - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not > install it on my present PC. > > My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user > like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just > fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC, > probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for > multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista > because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very > expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps > that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even > run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach > Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until > I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences. > > All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of > ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with > THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin> > >>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such >>>> a list, say by KB#? >>>> Where? >>>> >>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK. > > -- > HP, aka Jerry
Guest Dave B. Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Those are the ones that haven't figured out that they are paying a premium for Apple hardware, it's way overpriced. Have the best of both worlds, 10.4.9 on my P4 3.2 hyperthread. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Laughingstar~*" <le_sentier_battunospam368@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23lQU5Jo3HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Exactly the reason I program my "Downloads" to be approved by this PC > owner--Moi! In a public discussion this week, more than 1/3 of those > present said they've bought IMacs b/c MS keeps coming out with new OS, et > al, and requiring its consumers to be their R&D. I agree. Its getting to > be exhausting. Wake up MS. > "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message > news:Xns998C612062904ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... >> Gerry added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... >> >>> I would not get excited. It will only be a collection of >>> Hotfixes already issued and Security Updates. >> >> You seem to have the more common spelling of my name. >> >> I agree with you about not getting enthralled with the next MS >> compendium of fixes. First, MS's long track record of really bad >> releases of not only individual patches but SPs has taught me to >> be VERY wary of being the first kid on the block to install the >> latest and greatest. e.g., I waited over a year after SP2 to be >> sure that the early adopters were happy. While I obviously do not >> think SP3 will be that big a deal as you say, there is still a >> STRONG likelihood of a major blow-down upon install, especially >> if it includes IE7. I say that because I have declined to install >> maybe 10-15% of today's SP2 critical updates after lurking for >> awhile in these many MS NGs and seeing that those with auto >> update turned on had grievous problems. And, I have a strong >> philosophy of not trying to fix things that aren't broken, so if >> I think I've gotten the updates I need/want - and I do think that >> - then in all likelihood I will simply acquire SP3 but not >> install it on my present PC. >> >> My older PC, bequeathed to my wife who is not a heavy CPU user >> like I am with raster graphics, is still running XP SP1 just >> fine, even though MS allegedly disavows support. My next PC, >> probably a year or more off, will be state-of-the-art minus 1 for >> multi-core AMD CPU, many gigs of memory, and - Gasp! - Vista >> because I feel only it will be able to take advantage of a very >> expensive HW platform. But, because I have important legacy apps >> that won't be able to take advantage of Vista, and may not even >> run, e.g., my old-but-still-fine flatbed scanner, I will approach >> Vista gingerly and spend a LOT of time running both systems until >> I get the Vista box tuned to my preferences. >> >> All I can say for the early adopters of ANY new version/update of >> ANY software is Thank God for people who want to beta test with >> THEIR Visa cards so I don't have to with mine! <grin> >> >>>>> I am hearing about XP SP3 about to be offered by MS. >>>>> I've looked, but have not been able to find any list of what >>>>> 'upgrades' are included in XP SP3, post SP2. Is there such >>>>> a list, say by KB#? >>>>> Where? >>>>> >>>> I've read that it is a 1Q2008 release. Maybe I'm off some, >>>> but it is still a ways off AFAIK. >> >> -- >> HP, aka Jerry > >
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du jour .... > Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be > amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS > programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection? > programs. That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at the hips body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they must play ball or risk losing their certification. But, it is certainly true that reg cleaners in the hands of the novices will wreck an otherwise good system and are more harm than good most of the time. -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest Unknown Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Wed at the hips----------???? Supposing you wrote the OS. How would you control it and/or keep your customers happy. Many companies write programs to run with XP (the OS) and when a problem occurs, MS is immediately blamed. Be objective. "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message news:Xns998C98FC72C16ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... > Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du jour > ... > >> Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be >> amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS >> programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection? >> programs. > > That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at the hips > body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they must play ball > or risk losing their certification. But, it is certainly true that > reg cleaners in the hands of the novices will wreck an otherwise > good system and are more harm than good most of the time. > > -- > HP, aka Jerry
Guest ANONYMOUS Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > > > No. No announcements have been made. It is reasonable to expect that > it will include as the post-SP2 updates, possibly plus some others. > We'll see when it happens. Anything before that is rumor, and again I > caution you not to depend on rumors. "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008. This date is preliminary." http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
Guest Tom Willett Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote in message news:46C20762.D9699D71@NEWSGROUPS.COM... | "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008. | This date is preliminary." | | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx BTW, this is the third change MS has made to the date for SP3. And, they always say it's preliminary ;-)
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:49:54 +0100, ANONYMOUS <ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote: > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > > > > > > > No. No announcements have been made. It is reasonable to expect that > > it will include as the post-SP2 updates, possibly plus some others. > > We'll see when it happens. Anything before that is rumor, and again I > > caution you not to depend on rumors. > > > "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008. > This date is preliminary." > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx As I said, no announcement has been made. "Currently planned" and "preliminary" does not amount to an announcement. It is very common that such dates turn out not to be met. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest student Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? ms not responsible even when the app is an ms app? On 2007-08-14, Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote: > Wed at the hips----------???? Supposing you wrote the OS. How would you > control it and/or keep your customers happy. Many companies write programs > to run with XP (the OS) and when a problem occurs, MS is immediately > blamed. Be objective. > "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message > news:Xns998C98FC72C16ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... >> Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du jour >> ... >> >>> Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be >>> amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS >>> programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection? >>> programs. >> >> That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at the hips >> body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they must play ball >> or risk losing their certification. But, it is certainly true that >> reg cleaners in the hands of the novices will wreck an otherwise >> good system and are more harm than good most of the time. >> >> -- >> HP, aka Jerry > >
Guest ANONYMOUS Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Tom Willett wrote: > > "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote in message > news:46C20762.D9699D71@NEWSGROUPS.COM... > | "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008. > | This date is preliminary." > | > | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx > > BTW, this is the third change MS has made to the date for SP3. And, they > always say it's preliminary ;-) Perhaps that is what "preliminary" means :)
Guest Dave B. Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? From Webster's online; Main Entry: 1pre·lim·i·nary Pronunciation: pri-'li-m&-"ner-E Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -nar·ies Etymology: French préliminaires, plural, from Medieval Latin praeliminaris, adjective, preliminary, from Latin prae- pre- + limin-, limen threshold : something that precedes or is introductory or preparatory: as a : a preliminary scholastic examination b plural, British : FRONT MATTER c : a preliminary heat or trial (as of a race) d : a minor match preceding the main event (as of a boxing card) -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote in message news:46C20EB7.5BBB55E6@NEWSGROUPS.COM... > > > Tom Willett wrote: >> >> "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@NEWSGROUPS.COM> wrote in message >> news:46C20762.D9699D71@NEWSGROUPS.COM... >> | "SP3 for Windows XP Professional is currently planned for 1H CY2008. >> | This date is preliminary." >> | >> | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx >> >> BTW, this is the third change MS has made to the date for SP3. And, they >> always say it's preliminary ;-) > > > Perhaps that is what "preliminary" means :)
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du jour .... > Wed at the hips----------???? Supposing you wrote the OS. How > would you control it and/or keep your customers happy. Many > companies write programs to run with XP (the OS) and when a > problem occurs, MS is immediately blamed. Be objective. Let's just say that I've been around MS more than long enough, all the way back to the original PC that didn't even have DOS, that came in with the XT, to understand them pretty well. I don't mean to be vindictively critical, but surely you will admit they have less than a stellar record of their own releases, they have a rep for hiding key parts of their various APIs even from those who buy their development packages all the way back to the SDK, reverse engineering of several versions of the major components of MS Office have been found to contain fairly large percentages of commands and API calls that seem not to be documented, and MS like all commercial companies reserves the rights to control its copyrighted software and give "guidance" to developers. I didn't say, BTW, that all problems are MS, I am not at all that naive and not at all an anti-MS bigot to believe that. Rogue and misbehaving applications, especially systems utilities of all kinds, are rampant throughout the 25 years since the first PC, they suffer from their own bugs, side-effects bugs, and the rush to bring new versions to market no matter what. This super competitiveness all the way around makes for not only strange bedfellows but interlocking dependencies that can make full diagnosis of major or even minor systems issue deceptively difficult. I hung up my programmer clothes circa 1995 or so, thus I am more than a little out-of-date for direct knowledge of whence I speak, but in monitoring this and many other NGs, I see no real signs of improvement, if anything, I think the situation is deteriorating. I'm sorry if you feel I am not being objective, let's just say that I am a pragmatist and always suspicious of extravagent claims from ANY developer on either side of problems. Thanks for listening. > "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message > news:Xns998C98FC72C16ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... >> Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du >> jour ... >> >>> Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be >>> amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non MS >>> programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan protection? >>> programs. >> >> That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at >> the hips body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they >> must play ball or risk losing their certification. But, it is >> certainly true that reg cleaners in the hands of the novices >> will wreck an otherwise good system and are more harm than >> good most of the time. >> >> -- >> HP, aka Jerry > > > -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Re: XP SP3 Details? student added these comments in the current discussion du jour .... > ms not responsible even when the app is an ms app? Can't be true, MS write the best software in the world, especially its apps. <grin here?> Software really isn't all that different than my major field, cars, where we long buried our mistakes and "bugs" by bringing out a new model - with its own "bugs" of course, while leaving the hapless owners of previous models to fend for themselves. This is the brutal world of fierce competition, of which the world has never known more brutal across all segments of the economy today. > > On 2007-08-14, Unknown <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote: >> Wed at the hips----------???? Supposing you wrote the OS. How >> would you control it and/or keep your customers happy. Many >> companies write programs to run with XP (the OS) and when a >> problem occurs, MS is immediately blamed. Be objective. >> "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message >> news:Xns998C98FC72C16ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... >>> Unknown added these comments in the current discussion du >>> jour ... >>> >>>> Look closely at all the postings in this group. You'll be >>>> amazed that most problems are not caused by MS but by Non >>>> MS programs, reg cleaners, and virus detect/scan >>>> protection? programs. >>> >>> That may well be true, but the major developers are wed at >>> the hips body and soul to the God of Microsoft because they >>> must play ball or risk losing their certification. But, it >>> is certainly true that reg cleaners in the hands of the >>> novices will wreck an otherwise good system and are more >>> harm than good most of the time. >>> >>> -- >>> HP, aka Jerry >> >> > -- HP, aka Jerry
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