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Guest HEMI-Powered
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

Bob I added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

>> The gist of the way this thread has gone OT is into nostalgic

>> rememberences of times gone by in an ON-topic way to explain

>> why even when the O/S was extremely simple and small by

>> today's standards, there were bugs, and there's been bugs

>> ever since. And, anyone who thinks that ANY software will

>> EVER be "bug free" (whatever that even means) is a naive fool

>> or simply has no previous experience.

>

> Not a problem in my book. We are all getting old ;-), but it

> beats the alternative! As for OT, the original question was OT

> two of the 3 groups, and even for general it was a stretch! So

> we have a nice dicsussion about operating systems and reality.

> No biggie.

>

Bob, please enlighten me: apparently some/all of my replies have

been showing up multiple places but I can assure everyone that I

do NOT cross-post. If the replies are somewhat similar, I may

have given similar advice elsewhere, but a couple of people have

said I am posting identical text to at least 3 NGs. That's news

to me. Usually, Xnews warns me when I am about to reply to

someone who originally cross-posted, but I've not seen that for

this particular thread, not originally, not the middle, and not

where we are now.

 

So, if anyone is annoyed at what I've said that you think is

inappropriate or excessively OT, I apologize for that. But, I am

NOT intentionally trying to circumvent conventions established by

MS for these NGs nor am I intentionally inciting to riot. But,

there seems to be at least some evidence that a couple of people

taking issue with me have their own over-sensitivity issues, so

I'm trying to bow out.

 

Ditto for the meandering FAT32 thread that refuses to die. I want

to leave that one as my questions have been answered, it no

longer has meaning to me, and further comments I might make could

educate me or even a lurker but are going too far afield from the

original intent of the OP. So, I'm trying to disengage there

also.

 

Again, what I'd really prefer NOT happen is for some silly abuse

reporting war start because those things sweep everybody up, as

every person that gets censured, temporarily suspended, or even

losing their account usually get pretty well pissed-off and

report everybody in sight that may have at all been a reporter of

them. Nobody wins those wars, I hope we can avoid it here.

 

Now, I think there's been some excellent discussion in this

thread even afield of what would be considered ON-topic. I've

received comments either directly or indirectly that people are

learning from each other, so that sounds like a good thing, even

though we stopped talking literally about SP3 some time ago.

 

Have a good evening, everyone!

 

--

HP, aka Jerry

Guest db ´¯`·.. >
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

from microsoft the properties of

your / our postings for this

thread are as follows:

 

-----------------------------------

 

From: "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn>

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,

microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

 

Subject: Re: XP SP3 Details?

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:54:27 -0000

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Bob I added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

 

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"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message

news:Xns9992CA923D4E8ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...

> Bob I added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

>

>>> The gist of the way this thread has gone OT is into nostalgic

>>> rememberences of times gone by in an ON-topic way to explain

>>> why even when the O/S was extremely simple and small by

>>> today's standards, there were bugs, and there's been bugs

>>> ever since. And, anyone who thinks that ANY software will

>>> EVER be "bug free" (whatever that even means) is a naive fool

>>> or simply has no previous experience.

>>

>> Not a problem in my book. We are all getting old ;-), but it

>> beats the alternative! As for OT, the original question was OT

>> two of the 3 groups, and even for general it was a stretch! So

>> we have a nice dicsussion about operating systems and reality.

>> No biggie.

>>

> Bob, please enlighten me: apparently some/all of my replies have

> been showing up multiple places but I can assure everyone that I

> do NOT cross-post. If the replies are somewhat similar, I may

> have given similar advice elsewhere, but a couple of people have

> said I am posting identical text to at least 3 NGs. That's news

> to me. Usually, Xnews warns me when I am about to reply to

> someone who originally cross-posted, but I've not seen that for

> this particular thread, not originally, not the middle, and not

> where we are now.

>

> So, if anyone is annoyed at what I've said that you think is

> inappropriate or excessively OT, I apologize for that. But, I am

> NOT intentionally trying to circumvent conventions established by

> MS for these NGs nor am I intentionally inciting to riot. But,

> there seems to be at least some evidence that a couple of people

> taking issue with me have their own over-sensitivity issues, so

> I'm trying to bow out.

>

> Ditto for the meandering FAT32 thread that refuses to die. I want

> to leave that one as my questions have been answered, it no

> longer has meaning to me, and further comments I might make could

> educate me or even a lurker but are going too far afield from the

> original intent of the OP. So, I'm trying to disengage there

> also.

>

> Again, what I'd really prefer NOT happen is for some silly abuse

> reporting war start because those things sweep everybody up, as

> every person that gets censured, temporarily suspended, or even

> losing their account usually get pretty well pissed-off and

> report everybody in sight that may have at all been a reporter of

> them. Nobody wins those wars, I hope we can avoid it here.

>

> Now, I think there's been some excellent discussion in this

> thread even afield of what would be considered ON-topic. I've

> received comments either directly or indirectly that people are

> learning from each other, so that sounds like a good thing, even

> though we stopped talking literally about SP3 some time ago.

>

> Have a good evening, everyone!

>

> --

> HP, aka Jerry

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

Your post (the one I'm repaying to) is cross-posted to windwosxp.basics,

windowsxp.general and windowsxp.help_and_support.

 

(Note, I have no problem with your X-posting, just thought I'd let you

know.)

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message

news:Xns9992CA923D4E8ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...

> Bob I added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

>

>>> The gist of the way this thread has gone OT is into nostalgic

>>> rememberences of times gone by in an ON-topic way to explain

>>> why even when the O/S was extremely simple and small by

>>> today's standards, there were bugs, and there's been bugs

>>> ever since. And, anyone who thinks that ANY software will

>>> EVER be "bug free" (whatever that even means) is a naive fool

>>> or simply has no previous experience.

>>

>> Not a problem in my book. We are all getting old ;-), but it

>> beats the alternative! As for OT, the original question was OT

>> two of the 3 groups, and even for general it was a stretch! So

>> we have a nice dicsussion about operating systems and reality.

>> No biggie.

>>

> Bob, please enlighten me: apparently some/all of my replies have

> been showing up multiple places but I can assure everyone that I

> do NOT cross-post. If the replies are somewhat similar, I may

> have given similar advice elsewhere, but a couple of people have

> said I am posting identical text to at least 3 NGs. That's news

> to me. Usually, Xnews warns me when I am about to reply to

> someone who originally cross-posted, but I've not seen that for

> this particular thread, not originally, not the middle, and not

> where we are now.

>

> So, if anyone is annoyed at what I've said that you think is

> inappropriate or excessively OT, I apologize for that. But, I am

> NOT intentionally trying to circumvent conventions established by

> MS for these NGs nor am I intentionally inciting to riot. But,

> there seems to be at least some evidence that a couple of people

> taking issue with me have their own over-sensitivity issues, so

> I'm trying to bow out.

>

> Ditto for the meandering FAT32 thread that refuses to die. I want

> to leave that one as my questions have been answered, it no

> longer has meaning to me, and further comments I might make could

> educate me or even a lurker but are going too far afield from the

> original intent of the OP. So, I'm trying to disengage there

> also.

>

> Again, what I'd really prefer NOT happen is for some silly abuse

> reporting war start because those things sweep everybody up, as

> every person that gets censured, temporarily suspended, or even

> losing their account usually get pretty well pissed-off and

> report everybody in sight that may have at all been a reporter of

> them. Nobody wins those wars, I hope we can avoid it here.

>

> Now, I think there's been some excellent discussion in this

> thread even afield of what would be considered ON-topic. I've

> received comments either directly or indirectly that people are

> learning from each other, so that sounds like a good thing, even

> though we stopped talking literally about SP3 some time ago.

>

> Have a good evening, everyone!

>

> --

> HP, aka Jerry

Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

 

HEMI-Powered wrote:

> Bob I added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

>

>

>>>The gist of the way this thread has gone OT is into nostalgic

>>>rememberences of times gone by in an ON-topic way to explain

>>>why even when the O/S was extremely simple and small by

>>>today's standards, there were bugs, and there's been bugs

>>>ever since. And, anyone who thinks that ANY software will

>>>EVER be "bug free" (whatever that even means) is a naive fool

>>>or simply has no previous experience.

>>

>>Not a problem in my book. We are all getting old ;-), but it

>>beats the alternative! As for OT, the original question was OT

>>two of the 3 groups, and even for general it was a stretch! So

>>we have a nice dicsussion about operating systems and reality.

>>No biggie.

>>

>

> Bob, please enlighten me: apparently some/all of my replies have

> been showing up multiple places but I can assure everyone that I

> do NOT cross-post. If the replies are somewhat similar, I may

> have given similar advice elsewhere, but a couple of people have

> said I am posting identical text to at least 3 NGs. That's news

> to me. Usually, Xnews warns me when I am about to reply to

> someone who originally cross-posted, but I've not seen that for

> this particular thread, not originally, not the middle, and not

> where we are now.

>

> So, if anyone is annoyed at what I've said that you think is

> inappropriate or excessively OT, I apologize for that. But, I am

> NOT intentionally trying to circumvent conventions established by

> MS for these NGs nor am I intentionally inciting to riot. But,

> there seems to be at least some evidence that a couple of people

> taking issue with me have their own over-sensitivity issues, so

> I'm trying to bow out.

>

> Ditto for the meandering FAT32 thread that refuses to die. I want

> to leave that one as my questions have been answered, it no

> longer has meaning to me, and further comments I might make could

> educate me or even a lurker but are going too far afield from the

> original intent of the OP. So, I'm trying to disengage there

> also.

>

> Again, what I'd really prefer NOT happen is for some silly abuse

> reporting war start because those things sweep everybody up, as

> every person that gets censured, temporarily suspended, or even

> losing their account usually get pretty well pissed-off and

> report everybody in sight that may have at all been a reporter of

> them. Nobody wins those wars, I hope we can avoid it here.

>

> Now, I think there's been some excellent discussion in this

> thread even afield of what would be considered ON-topic. I've

> received comments either directly or indirectly that people are

> learning from each other, so that sounds like a good thing, even

> though we stopped talking literally about SP3 some time ago.

>

> Have a good evening, everyone!

>

 

The thread was originally crossposted to and is currently crossposting to:

 

microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

 

and FWIW I don't think anyone is particularly concerned about your

postings in this thread.

 

have a good one!

Guest Ken Blake
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message

news:Xns9992CA923D4E8ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...

> Bob, please enlighten me: apparently some/all of my replies have

> been showing up multiple places but I can assure everyone that I

> do NOT cross-post. If the replies are somewhat similar, I may

> have given similar advice elsewhere, but a couple of people have

> said I am posting identical text to at least 3 NGs. That's news

> to me. Usually, Xnews warns me when I am about to reply to

> someone who originally cross-posted, but I've not seen that for

> this particular thread, not originally, not the middle, and not

> where we are now.

 

I'm not Bob, but just FYI, XNews is apparently not warning you. This thread,

and your reply is cross-posted to

 

microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics,

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,

and microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

 

I don't have all problem with such cross-posting, by the way. As far as I'm

concerned, cross-posting to a few related groups is fine. Cross-posting

mostly got its bad reputation because it's the traditional tool of the

spammer, but the kind of crossposting in this thread clearly isn't spam.

 

--

Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User

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Guest HEMI-Powered
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

Gary S. Terhune added these comments in the current discussion

du jour ...

> Your post (the one I'm repaying to) is cross-posted to

> windwosxp.basics, windowsxp.general and

> windowsxp.help_and_support.

>

> (Note, I have no problem with your X-posting, just thought I'd

> let you know.)

>

Again, /I/ am NOT cross-posting, so if my posts are showing up

multiple places it can only mean I am replying to someone who did.

I know how to cross-post, when it should be done and when it should

not be done. Almost exclusively, I do NOT do that. If I am not

replying to a cross-poster, which would automagically propogate my

reply as well, then I don't know what is going on.

 

--

HP, aka Jerry

Guest HEMI-Powered
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

Bob I added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

> The thread was originally crossposted to and is currently

> crossposting to:

>

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support

 

This is what I thought, thanks for the confirmation. Usually, Xnews

warns me about this, but it hasn't for this thread.

>

> and FWIW I don't think anyone is particularly concerned about

> your postings in this thread.

 

Yes, thank you again. I believe it is only 2 people who are

annoyed, but since there may have been lurkers annoyed I didn't

know about, I thought it polite and professional to apologize even

though I didn't think I was doing anything all that bad.

> have a good one!

 

And, you have a great day, too, Bob!

 

--

HP, aka Jerry

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

But you ARE replying to a cross-posted message, which automatically makes

your reply cross-posted as well. I can't tell you what's wrong with your

newsreader, but your posts are definitely cross-posted, as are all of the

posts in this thread.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message

news:Xns999397F066378ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...

> Gary S. Terhune added these comments in the current discussion

> du jour ...

>

>> Your post (the one I'm repaying to) is cross-posted to

>> windwosxp.basics, windowsxp.general and

>> windowsxp.help_and_support.

>>

>> (Note, I have no problem with your X-posting, just thought I'd

>> let you know.)

>>

> Again, /I/ am NOT cross-posting, so if my posts are showing up

> multiple places it can only mean I am replying to someone who did.

> I know how to cross-post, when it should be done and when it should

> not be done. Almost exclusively, I do NOT do that. If I am not

> replying to a cross-poster, which would automagically propogate my

> reply as well, then I don't know what is going on.

>

> --

> HP, aka Jerry

Guest HEMI-Powered
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

Gary S. Terhune added these comments in the current discussion

du jour ...

> But you ARE replying to a cross-posted message, which

> automatically makes your reply cross-posted as well. I can't

> tell you what's wrong with your newsreader, but your posts are

> definitely cross-posted, as are all of the posts in this

> thread.

 

Well, since Xnews isn't warning me - this time - then I either

cross-post my replies or don't post at all. But, since the number

is rather small and the major objectors even smaller, 1, 2, maybe

3, so what? I just heard from Ken Blake, an MVP, who doesn't seem

to have any problem with the small-scale cross-posting that goes on

here and serveral other people have told me that they're not

particularly annoyed, so why doesn't everybody just let it drop.

 

Better still, why not whack on the OP for doing it, and leave the

people either trying to help or evolving the thread into other

useful directions alone? In other words, live and let live.

 

--

HP, aka Jerry

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: XP SP3 Details?

 

I certainly agree. Just wanted to make your own technical X-post issue

clear, at least from this viewpoint, <s>.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message

news:Xns99939DF6B7ADAReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...

> Gary S. Terhune added these comments in the current discussion

> du jour ...

>

>> But you ARE replying to a cross-posted message, which

>> automatically makes your reply cross-posted as well. I can't

>> tell you what's wrong with your newsreader, but your posts are

>> definitely cross-posted, as are all of the posts in this

>> thread.

>

> Well, since Xnews isn't warning me - this time - then I either

> cross-post my replies or don't post at all. But, since the number

> is rather small and the major objectors even smaller, 1, 2, maybe

> 3, so what? I just heard from Ken Blake, an MVP, who doesn't seem

> to have any problem with the small-scale cross-posting that goes on

> here and serveral other people have told me that they're not

> particularly annoyed, so why doesn't everybody just let it drop.

>

> Better still, why not whack on the OP for doing it, and leave the

> people either trying to help or evolving the thread into other

> useful directions alone? In other words, live and let live.

>

> --

> HP, aka Jerry

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