Guest PowerUser Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070814-hotmail-gets-much-needed-attention-storage-limit-bump-other-upgrades.html I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they could have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and there would be no battle.
Guest Spanky deMonkey Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Cable TV Upgrades Cable TV Upgrades You know, I was watching TV the other day and said to myself. I could upgrade and get the sports package. So I called the cable company and upgraded. Now I can sit home in my pajamas all day, eating Ice Cream, watching sports all day. Isn't life grand? Just FYI. I don't even need to use Windows 2008 Server or Ubuntu to enjoy my TV. Just FYI. "PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:eDsMn123HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070814-hotmail-gets-much-needed-attention-storage-limit-bump-other-upgrades.html > > I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and > everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful guys > on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm just a > little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they could > have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and there > would be no battle. > > > >
Guest Manny Moe & Jack Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Restore Compression - Restore Horsepower - Restore Engine Life Restore Compression - Restore Horsepower - Restore Engine Life http://www.restoreusa.com/ This works wonders. Who gives a Rats Ass about Hotmail. Just FYI. "PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:eDsMn123HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070814-hotmail-gets-much-needed-attention-storage-limit-bump-other-upgrades.html > > I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and > everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful guys > on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm just a > little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they could > have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and there > would be no battle. > > > >
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) PowerUser wrote: > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070814-hotmail-gets-much-needed-attention-storage-limit-bump-other-upgrades.html > > I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas > and everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old > faithful guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is > incredible. I'm just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are > powerful; they could have given people like 1GB when Gmail > came out and matched it and there would be no battle. Hotmail works - have had several accounts for years. Gmail works - have had several accounts for years. Tried out the other free email account services as well - most of them are functional - but GMail always offered a bit more (not talking about size - but services.) If Hotmail wants to offer more services - cool. I'll take a look at it. It might be nice to have a backup to what GMAIL already offers. I doubt either will 'kill' the other for quite some time - if ever. And anyone that needs that much space for email, needs to learn to archive. I manage users that waste that much space - and I tell them they are managing things badly. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Guest PowerUser Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Restore Compression - Restore Horsepower - Restore Engine Life Re: Restore Compression - Restore Horsepower - Restore Engine Life Wow these posts are random! :-) "Manny Moe & Jack" <cars@cars4me.com> wrote in message news:evInx923HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > http://www.restoreusa.com/ > > This works wonders. Who gives a Rats Ass about Hotmail. Just FYI. > > > "PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message > news:eDsMn123HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070814-hotmail-gets-much-needed-attention-storage-limit-bump-other-upgrades.html >> >> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and >> everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful >> guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm >> just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they >> could have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and >> there would be no battle. >> >> >> >> > >
Guest PowerUser Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and that makes things so much easier. "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message news:O4aT6$23HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > PowerUser wrote: >> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070814-hotmail-gets-much-needed-attention-storage-limit-bump-other-upgrades.html >> >> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas >> and everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old >> faithful guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is >> incredible. I'm just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are >> powerful; they could have given people like 1GB when Gmail >> came out and matched it and there would be no battle. > > Hotmail works - have had several accounts for years. > Gmail works - have had several accounts for years. > > Tried out the other free email account services as well - most of them are > functional - but GMail always offered a bit more (not talking about size - > but services.) If Hotmail wants to offer more services - cool. I'll take > a look at it. It might be nice to have a backup to what GMAIL already > offers. I doubt either will 'kill' the other for quite some time - if > ever. And anyone that needs that much space for email, needs to learn to > archive. I manage users that waste that much space - and I tell them they > are managing things badly. > > -- > Shenan Stanley > MS-MVP > -- > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) PowerUser wrote: > I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always > appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's > saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially > since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and > that makes things so much easier. Email is not a file system. While I understand what you are saying - if you have 8GB of email - you have been in Grad School too long - you need to graduate. ;-) It's not the total size that is likely saving your butt - but the individual file attachment size. Since most only allow 10MB-20MB attachments, to get ot 8GB - the number of attachments you would be storing is... wow. Organized or not - there is a point where you would be better off not relying on some 'not backed up, third party with no control by you' to archive your materials. ;-) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Guest PowerUser Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is the way backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs but most of it is online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI I'm a good student. I'm an engineer and I'll graduate (Masters, BTW) from USC in December '07 (1.5 years spent on my MS). That will be less than 18 years totally. My account is large because I've been using Hotmail for everything from the 2MB times. "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uAOXSG33HHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > PowerUser wrote: >> I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always >> appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's >> saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially >> since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and >> that makes things so much easier. > > Email is not a file system. > > While I understand what you are saying - if you have 8GB of email - you > have been in Grad School too long - you need to graduate. ;-) > > It's not the total size that is likely saving your butt - but the > individual file attachment size. Since most only allow 10MB-20MB > attachments, to get ot 8GB - the number of attachments you would be > storing is... wow. Organized or not - there is a point where you would be > better off not relying on some 'not backed up, third party with no control > by you' to archive your materials. ;-) > > -- > Shenan Stanley > MS-MVP > -- > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html >
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted August 15, 2007 Posted August 15, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) PowerUser wrote: > Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is > the way backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs > but most of it is online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI > I'm a good student. I'm an engineer and I'll graduate (Masters, > BTW) from USC in December '07 (1.5 years spent on my MS). That > will be less than 18 years totally. My account is large because > I've been using Hotmail for everything from the 2MB times. That last part is the point... You have been using it forever - but how much of the stuff that is there do you utilize now or are you just being a packrat about it because you can be? I find the latter is usually true. I know people with over 10GB of email over a 4 year period - because they keep everything that comes to them, even email themselves documents and such. But those same emails over the past 4 years - some were never touched again - nor will they ever be. I realize space is cheap - especially when it is free - but I look at iot just like I do when i see people's garages unused for parking cars because they store all their unused crap in there - a waste. ;-) Again - each their own. I never questioned you ability at being a student... But I did point out that in order to fill up 8GB with 20MB file attachments - you are going to need a LOT of them. ;-) -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Guest here@home.again Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) "PowerUser" admitted... > Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is the way > backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs but most of it > is online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI I'm a good student. > I'm an engineer and I'll graduate (Masters, BTW) from USC in December '07 > (1.5 years spent on my MS). That will be less than 18 years totally. My > account is large because I've been using Hotmail for everything from the > 2MB times. > > PowerUser wrote: >>> I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always >>> appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's >>> saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially >>> since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and >>> that makes things so much easier. >> You know, there are many safer alternatives to storing files and documents in email. Spammers and hackers (amateurs, not professionals) occassionally crash mail servers, sometimes causing loss of saved and/or unread messages. Look into free online storage services, instead, such as x-drive. You'd think a grad student would have learned something about internet security by now. What is the higher education system teaching these days? ;-)
Guest PowerUser Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) You can continue to enjoy your AOHell services all you want. If a mail service can be hacked, so can something like XDrive. And this has never even happened with Hotmail in all these years, so this is a moot point anyway. The education system is doing perfectly fine without your interference, thank you. <here@home.again> wrote in message news:%23YjBunB4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "PowerUser" admitted... >> Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is the >> way backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs but most of >> it is online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI I'm a good >> student. I'm an engineer and I'll graduate (Masters, BTW) from USC in >> December '07 (1.5 years spent on my MS). That will be less than 18 years >> totally. My account is large because I've been using Hotmail for >> everything from the 2MB times. >> >> PowerUser wrote: >>>> I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always >>>> appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's >>>> saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially >>>> since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and >>>> that makes things so much easier. >>> > > You know, there are many safer alternatives to storing files and documents > in email. Spammers and hackers (amateurs, not professionals) occassionally > crash mail servers, sometimes causing loss of saved and/or unread > messages. Look into free online storage services, instead, such as > x-drive. > > You'd think a grad student would have learned something about internet > security by now. What is the higher education system teaching these days? > ;-) >
Guest here@home.again Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Hotmail Upgrades! :-) "PowerUser" defied logic... > You can continue to enjoy your AOHell services all you want. If a mail > service can be hacked, so can something like XDrive. And this has never > even happened with Hotmail in all these years, so this is a moot point > anyway. The education system is doing perfectly fine without your > interference, thank you. > > <here@home.again> suggested and joked... >> You know, there are many safer alternatives to storing files and >> documents in email. Spammers and hackers (amateurs, not professionals) >> occassionally crash mail servers, sometimes causing loss of saved and/or >> unread messages. Look into free online storage services, instead, such as >> x-drive. >> >> You'd think a grad student would have learned something about internet >> security by now. What is the higher education system teaching these days? >> ;-) >> > I guess you didn't see the little ;-) at the end? Either that, or you didn't understand it represents humor. Hmmm... Services "such as x-drive" only because I couldn't think of any others off the top of my head. I don't store email messages inside the mail account, I copy them to CD-RW if I need them for work, and delete the rest. As far as Hotmail never having been "hacked" as you put it, you can't seriously expect anyone using any email for more than a year to believe that Hotmail hasn't experienced service interruptions and rare loss of data. Just because only some accounts have been effected, and just because it has been several years, don't think it can't happen again. Amateur hackers and spammers target the most popular, MS Windows, MS IE, MS Hotmail, etc. because it is the most familiar to them. Use what you know.
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