Guest Edward W. Thompson Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Acronis True Image software is regularly recomended in these NGs. What are opinions of the Disaster Recovery feature of True Image, is it worth implementing?
Guest peter Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery I am running True Image 10 and I dont see that option.............or do you mean the Startup Recovery manager?? or the Bootable rescue media?? The startup recovery manager works in conjuction with The Secure Zone and by means of pushing F? as the system boots and before XP/Vista loads allows you to restore an Image or to restore Files from within that image in order to solve a non booting XP/Vista problem The Bootable Rescue Media basically does the same thing except your running off a CD/DVD...and takes a little longer. peter "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:eqold2$3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Acronis True Image software is regularly recomended in these NGs. What > are opinions of the Disaster Recovery feature of True Image, is it worth > implementing? >
Guest DL Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery Works for me "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:eqold2$3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Acronis True Image software is regularly recomended in these NGs. What > are opinions of the Disaster Recovery feature of True Image, is it worth > implementing? >
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery DL added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > Works for me > > "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in > message news:eqold2$3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Acronis True Image software is regularly recomended in these >> NGs. What are opinions of the Disaster Recovery feature of >> True Image, is it worth implementing? >> I assume the OP meant the bootable floppy or CD to do an emergency recovery in the event that Windows is completely inoperative even in Safe Mode. I have testing mine that it CAN launch and CAN detect my external HD, but fortunately, I've not had a reason to actually use it, and hope I never do. -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest Anthony Buckland Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message news:Xns998E83DE6798CReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... > DL added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > >> Works for me >> >> "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in >> message news:eqold2$3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Acronis True Image software is regularly recomended in these >>> NGs. What are opinions of the Disaster Recovery feature of >>> True Image, is it worth implementing? >>> > I assume the OP meant the bootable floppy or CD to do an emergency > recovery in the event that Windows is completely inoperative even > in Safe Mode. I have testing mine that it CAN launch and CAN detect > my external HD, but fortunately, I've not had a reason to actually > use it, and hope I never do. > > -- > HP, aka Jerry I've restored my C: partition several times with Acronis, and it always worked. Disaster recovery is the same as just wanting to back out of a software change that went bad, or anything in between. In each case, the entire partition is restored to its previous state. The only difference is that in some cases you will use DVDs or a removable drive instead of using the Secure Zone (hidden partition Acronis creates on your hard drive) as the source from which to recover. The one time I had to deal with a failed hard drive, I first used a manufacturer's disaster CD to restore the factory state, then overwrote that with a much more recent version of C: saved with Acronis on DVDs (first step in overwriting, load Acronis itself from the CD which you hopefully let Acronis make for you). An exception to the above is a really minor recovery where you just want to restore a file or a few, which you can do by copying files from a partition image saved by Acronis.
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery Anthony Buckland added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > I've restored my C: partition several times with Acronis, and > it always worked. I'm quite happy to hear that! If you don't mind saying, why are you having to rebuild/recover so often? My XP Pro SP2 box almost never even needs a restart except after updates and I guess I've been lucky on errant driver problems or malware. > Disaster recovery is the same as just wanting to back out of a > software change that went bad, or anything in between. In > each case, the entire partition is restored to its previous > state. The only difference is that in some > cases you will use DVDs or a removable drive instead of using > the Secure Zone (hidden partition Acronis creates on your hard > drive) as the source from which to recover. The one time I > had to deal with a failed hard drive, I first used a > manufacturer's disaster CD to restore the factory state, then > overwrote that with a much more recent version of C: saved > with Acronis on DVDs (first step in overwriting, load Acronis > itself from the CD which you > hopefully let Acronis make for you). > > An exception to the above is a really minor recovery where you > just want to restore a file or a few, which you can do by > copying files from a partition > image saved by Acronis. > I do full image backups with True Image, not the folder kind. I thought that I had to do a files/folders-style "image" rather than a full image in order to do a selective restore. Do I understand you correctly that I could recover something like a corrupt file or one I discovered disappeared simply by accessing one of my periodic 5 gig full partition image files? -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest Tom Willett Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery | I do full image backups with True Image, not the folder kind. I | thought that I had to do a files/folders-style "image" rather | than a full image in order to do a selective restore. Do I | understand you correctly that I could recover something like a | corrupt file or one I discovered disappeared simply by accessing | one of my periodic 5 gig full partition image files? | | -- | HP, aka Jerry Jerry: You can indeed restore selected files from a full image backup. Tom
Guest AJR Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery Anthony states "...instead of using the Secure Zone (hidden partition Acronis creates on your hard drive) as the source from which to recover....". In numerous posts about Acronis the "Secure Zone" gets little or no mention. As a refresher, the secure zone is a "safe" partition on the HD and the MBR is modified to present "Hit F11 to restore...." at boot - much like the restore system set up by OEMs. Acronis also provides for backup to an external, or separate internal, location - and both processes, Secure Zone and external backup can be scheduled jointly as well as incremental or differential backups. regarding HEMI-Powered's post - current "beta" testing of several applications has resulted in the need for often during a system restore. "Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam@telus.net> wrote in message news:ubscsuC4HHA.1824@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message > news:Xns998E83DE6798CReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... >> DL added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... >> >>> Works for me >>> >>> "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in >>> message news:eqold2$3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Acronis True Image software is regularly recomended in these >>>> NGs. What are opinions of the Disaster Recovery feature of >>>> True Image, is it worth implementing? >>>> >> I assume the OP meant the bootable floppy or CD to do an emergency >> recovery in the event that Windows is completely inoperative even >> in Safe Mode. I have testing mine that it CAN launch and CAN detect >> my external HD, but fortunately, I've not had a reason to actually >> use it, and hope I never do. >> >> -- >> HP, aka Jerry > > I've restored my C: partition several times with Acronis, and it always > worked. > Disaster recovery is the same as just wanting to back out of a software > change that went bad, or anything in between. In each case, the entire > partition is restored to its previous state. The only difference is that > in some > cases you will use DVDs or a removable drive instead of using the Secure > Zone (hidden partition Acronis creates on your hard drive) as the source > from which to recover. The one time I had to deal with a failed hard > drive, > I first used a manufacturer's disaster CD to restore the factory state, > then > overwrote that with a much more recent version of C: saved with Acronis > on DVDs (first step in overwriting, load Acronis itself from the CD which > you > hopefully let Acronis make for you). > > An exception to the above is a really minor recovery where you just want > to restore a file or a few, which you can do by copying files from a > partition > image saved by Acronis. >
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery Tom Willett added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... >| I do full image backups with True Image, not the folder kind. >| I thought that I had to do a files/folders-style "image" >| rather than a full image in order to do a selective restore. >| Do I understand you correctly that I could recover something >| like a corrupt file or one I discovered disappeared simply by >| accessing one of my periodic 5 gig full partition image >| files? >| > Jerry: You can indeed restore selected files from a full > image backup. That is simply terrific news, Tom! Thank you for relaying it. Thankfully, I've not even needed to do that. Over the years, I've had a small number of occasions where something goes south, away or corrupt in Windows or an app. For that, I have been successful in finding it in a CAB file. For selected file or folder restores, I've used my external HD and optical backups successfully. But, thanks to you, I now have one more arrow in my quiver! -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest Tom Willett Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery When you click on "Recovery", you have the option to restore just files. Tom "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message news:Xns998EAC65F492AReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... | Tom Willett added these comments in the current discussion du | jour ... | | >| I do full image backups with True Image, not the folder kind. | >| I thought that I had to do a files/folders-style "image" | >| rather than a full image in order to do a selective restore. | >| Do I understand you correctly that I could recover something | >| like a corrupt file or one I discovered disappeared simply by | >| accessing one of my periodic 5 gig full partition image | >| files? | >| | > Jerry: You can indeed restore selected files from a full | > image backup. | | That is simply terrific news, Tom! Thank you for relaying it. | Thankfully, I've not even needed to do that. Over the years, I've | had a small number of occasions where something goes south, away or | corrupt in Windows or an app. For that, I have been successful in | finding it in a CAB file. For selected file or folder restores, | I've used my external HD and optical backups successfully. | | But, thanks to you, I now have one more arrow in my quiver! | | -- | HP, aka Jerry
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery AJR added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > Anthony states "...instead of using the Secure Zone (hidden > partition Acronis creates on your hard drive) as the source > from which to recover....". In numerous posts about Acronis > the "Secure Zone" gets little or no mention. As a refresher, > the secure zone is a "safe" partition on the HD and the MBR is > modified to present "Hit F11 to restore...." at boot - much > like the restore system set up by OEMs. > > Acronis also provides for backup to an external, or separate > internal, location - and both processes, Secure Zone and > external backup can be scheduled jointly as well as > incremental or differential backups. > > regarding HEMI-Powered's post - current "beta" testing of > several applications has resulted in the need for often during > a system restore. > I assume you're referring to my "I don't beta test with my Visa card" stance. If yes, I am curious as to why you DO? Are certain/all upgrades/updates super important to you for REAL reasons, e.g., you have an actual bug or failure or there is a feature or feature set in the newer mousetrap? Those are the ONLY two reasons I will be an early adopter of anything from any company. And, if my "beta" testing were literally destroying my entire system, I would sure as hell rethink what I'm doing and perhaps either stop upgrading/updating and/or find new developers. But, that's just my opinion, YMMV. Now, what I have to do more often than I like is to roll back my system to a prior RP. Since I ALWAYS set my own RP before I even let my malware protection update the system, I have been very succesful. MS and app updates should be obvious, but why do I care about malware? Because Symantec, eTrust, and Zone Alarm mix in changes to their basic operation engine and to their detections engines along with simple signature updates. It is changes to software, some of which is system-critical, that is the danger of a melt-down. MS usually, but not always, sets an RP but the other guys I mention do not. Spybot is also one that always sets its own. I went to True Image some time back for a couple of reasons: the last time I needed to have my system rebuilt by my nephew/friend/PC builder, it was a long, ardurous journey, and the other was that I had a suspicion that I was being hacked, and wanted to step up my malware/spyware detection capability, put a strong SW firewall in place, AND image C:\ to restore to a known stable system in case a hack/malware attack took place. And, naturally, to avoid having to spend a couple of weeks getting things back the way I want them. And, although I mentioned this before, it bears repeating: I have NO data I created stored on C:\. Yes, some apps like Turbo Tax insist on using My Computer, but for them, I back up the files to another partition. I have extended data-only partitions to prevent catastrophic loss of MY data in the event I need a true nuke and reinstall of Windows. -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery Tom Willett added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > When you click on "Recovery", you have the option to restore > just files. > Thanks, Tom. The reason I didn't know this is that Help is sparse, there is no manual, and while I've tested to ensure I could at least start TI from a bootable CD, I never tried an actual test recovery, hence I never saw the option. I love it when I learn new things as a by-product of getting involved in other people's difficulties, very nice or you and others to point me in the right direction when I'm blind to critical facts or options. -- HP, aka Jerry
Guest Tom Willett Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery The info is in the help files in my Acronis ;-) Tom "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message news:Xns998F53B0C8FD0ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30... | Tom Willett added these comments in the current discussion du | jour ... | | > When you click on "Recovery", you have the option to restore | > just files. | > | Thanks, Tom. The reason I didn't know this is that Help is sparse, | there is no manual, and while I've tested to ensure I could at | least start TI from a bootable CD, I never tried an actual test | recovery, hence I never saw the option. | | I love it when I learn new things as a by-product of getting | involved in other people's difficulties, very nice or you and | others to point me in the right direction when I'm blind to | critical facts or options. | | -- | HP, aka Jerry
Guest HEMI-Powered Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Acronis Disaster Recovery Tom Willett added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... > The info is in the help files in my Acronis ;-) > I know that - now, Tom! In a day long past, the manual that came with either SW or HW not only told you how to use it but often gave you helpful tips even mini- or maxi-tutorials on how to take the best advantage of what they offer. But, technical writing is so expensive today and surveys have proven that fewer and fewer people read it, that virtually no one even puts a PDF manual on their CD. Instead they rely on their help system. Those generally work well for me, but if and only if, I know what to search for. The problem is like trying to use a dictionary to find out what something means without knowing the word or an encyclopedia without knowing the general subject name. Help is of no help in pointing out features, except perhaps the home page. You've been more than polite and helpful to me, so I'll just say my missing this is more ramblings of an old fool, YMMV. Have a great day! -- HP, aka Jerry
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