Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log into their machines. After you type in your password the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be available offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available offline." I see that there is another offline option that states, "All files and programs that users open from the share will be automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. Thanks -Scott
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders hello, can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) any eventlog error entry ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile and > we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log into their > machines. After you type in your password the message saying, "Loading > your personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it > changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to > troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or > redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share is > \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the offline > setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not > be available offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my > desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the files > and programs that users specify will be available offline." My third > share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline > settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs that > users specify will be available offline." I see that there is another > offline option that states, "All files and programs that users open from > the share will be automatically available offline" it also has a check box > saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting > instead for all 3 of my shares? > > I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but I > don't really think that is the case. > > Thanks > -Scott >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > hello, > > can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an > empty profile, that's something else (dns...) > any eventlog error entry ? > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile and >> we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log into >> their machines. After you type in your password the message saying, >> "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes >> before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to >> troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles >> or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share >> is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the offline >> setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not >> be available offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my >> desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the files >> and programs that users specify will be available offline." My third >> share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and >> programs that users specify will be available offline." I see that there >> is another offline option that states, "All files and programs that users >> open from the share will be automatically available offline" it also has >> a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that >> setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >> >> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but I >> don't really think that is the case. >> >> Thanks >> -Scott >> >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... How big are your profiles ? any offline sync folder? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on much > quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user really > has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon > process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any > recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> hello, >> >> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an >> empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >> any eventlog error entry ? >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile >>> and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log into >>> their machines. After you type in your password the message saying, >>> "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes >>> before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming >>> profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. >>> One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have >>> the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the >>> share will not be available offline". My second share is >>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline settings for >>> this set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be >>> available offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my >>> redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share are also >>> set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be >>> available offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the share will be >>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, >>> "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead for >>> all 3 of my shares? >>> >>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but I >>> don't really think that is the case. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Scott >>> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for offline. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. > > Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... > > How big are your profiles ? > any offline sync folder? > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on much >> quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user really >> has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon >> process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> hello, >>> >>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an >>> empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>> any eventlog error entry ? >>> >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile >>>> and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log >>>> into their machines. After you type in your password the message >>>> saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good >>>> 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". >>>> What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my >>>> server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. >>>> I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs >>>> from the share will not be available offline". My second share is >>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline settings >>>> for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will >>>> be available offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my >>>> redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share are also >>>> set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be >>>> available offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the share will be >>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, >>>> "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead >>>> for all 3 of my shares? >>>> >>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but >>>> I don't really think that is the case. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Scott >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Looks like the Application Data folder which is what is hidden in my profile has all the data in it. Now I just need to figure out what belongs and doesn't belong. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. > > Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... > > How big are your profiles ? > any offline sync folder? > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on much >> quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user really >> has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon >> process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> hello, >>> >>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an >>> empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>> any eventlog error entry ? >>> >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile >>>> and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log >>>> into their machines. After you type in your password the message >>>> saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good >>>> 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". >>>> What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my >>>> server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. >>>> I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs >>>> from the share will not be available offline". My second share is >>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline settings >>>> for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will >>>> be available offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my >>>> redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share are also >>>> set to, "Only the files and programs that users specify will be >>>> available offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the share will be >>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, >>>> "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead >>>> for all 3 of my shares? >>>> >>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but >>>> I don't really think that is the case. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Scott >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders 3,6G include my docs ? You may remove the automatic offline sync, and instead choose folder by folder the needed one offline -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline folder > and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for offline. > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >> >> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >> >> How big are your profiles ? >> any offline sync folder? >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on >>> much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user >>> really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the >>> logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >>> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> hello, >>>> >>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an >>>> empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile >>>>> and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log >>>>> into their machines. After you type in your password the message >>>>> saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good >>>>> 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". >>>>> What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with >>>>> my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on >>>>> my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming >>>>> profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or >>>>> programs from the share will not be available offline". My second >>>>> share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>> specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline >>>>> settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs >>>>> that users specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and programs that users >>>>> open from the share will be automatically available offline" it also >>>>> has a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be >>>>> using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>> >>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but >>>>> I don't really think that is the case. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Scott >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose to be set to? "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline folder > and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for offline. > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >> >> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >> >> How big are your profiles ? >> any offline sync folder? >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on >>> much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user >>> really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the >>> logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >>> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> hello, >>>> >>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with an >>>> empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile >>>>> and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log >>>>> into their machines. After you type in your password the message >>>>> saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good >>>>> 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". >>>>> What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with >>>>> my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on >>>>> my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming >>>>> profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or >>>>> programs from the share will not be available offline". My second >>>>> share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>> specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline >>>>> settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs >>>>> that users specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and programs that users >>>>> open from the share will be automatically available offline" it also >>>>> has a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be >>>>> using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>> >>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, but >>>>> I don't really think that is the case. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Scott >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline folder for this part. You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy). -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it is > the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need this > folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. > > Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose to > be set to? > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline folder >> and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for offline. >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>> >>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>> >>> How big are your profiles ? >>> any offline sync folder? >>> >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on >>>> much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user >>>> really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when the >>>> logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >>>> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> hello, >>>>> >>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with >>>>> an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for awhile >>>>>> and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes to log >>>>>> into their machines. After you type in your password the message >>>>>> saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a good >>>>>> 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". >>>>>> What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with >>>>>> my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares >>>>>> on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming >>>>>> profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or >>>>>> programs from the share will not be available offline". My second >>>>>> share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>> specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline >>>>>> settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and programs >>>>>> that users specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and programs that >>>>>> users open from the share will be automatically available offline" it >>>>>> also has a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I >>>>>> be using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, >>>>>> but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Scott >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy)." I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. > > Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by > windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline folder > for this part. > > You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, > because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync copy). > > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it is >> the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need this >> folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. >> >> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose to >> be set to? >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>> offline. >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>> >>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>> >>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>> any offline sync folder? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on >>>>> much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this user >>>>> really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is when >>>>> the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >>>>> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with >>>>>> an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes >>>>>>> to log into their machines. After you type in your password the >>>>>>> message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen >>>>>>> for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal >>>>>>> settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything >>>>>>> to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I >>>>>>> created 3 shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ >>>>>>> for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this share >>>>>>> set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be available >>>>>>> offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my >>>>>>> desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the >>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available offline." >>>>>>> My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My >>>>>>> Documents. The offline settings for this share are also set to, >>>>>>> "Only the files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that states, >>>>>>> "All files and programs that users open from the share will be >>>>>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, >>>>>>> "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting instead >>>>>>> for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, >>>>>>> but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the server. Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected folder share like application data (if you are using redirected folders) -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on > redirected folder (application data) if used, > because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync > copy)." > > I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. My > Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group Policy. I > go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and Computers > and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. >> >> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by >> windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline folder >> for this part. >> >> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, >> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >> copy). >> >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it is >>> the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need this >>> folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. >>> >>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose to >>> be set to? >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>>> offline. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>> >>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>> >>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on >>>>>> much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this >>>>>> user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is >>>>>> when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this >>>>>> assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my >>>>>> problem elsewhere? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow with >>>>>>> an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person goes >>>>>>>> to log into their machines. After you type in your password the >>>>>>>> message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen >>>>>>>> for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your personal >>>>>>>> settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have >>>>>>>> anything to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? >>>>>>>> I created 3 shares on my server. One share is >>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the offline >>>>>>>> setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the share >>>>>>>> will not be available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline >>>>>>>> settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and >>>>>>>> programs that users specify will be available offline." I see that >>>>>>>> there is another offline option that states, "All files and >>>>>>>> programs that users open from the share will be automatically >>>>>>>> available offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for >>>>>>>> performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 of >>>>>>>> my shares? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, >>>>>>>> but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the Application Data folder? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the server. > > Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected folder > share like application data (if you are using redirected folders) > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >> redirected folder (application data) if used, >> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >> copy)." >> >> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. My >> Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group Policy. >> I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and Computers >> and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. >>> >>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by >>> windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline >>> folder for this part. >>> >>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, >>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>> copy). >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it >>>> is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need >>>> this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. >>>> >>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose >>>> to be set to? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>>>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>>>> offline. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>> >>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log on >>>>>>> much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because this >>>>>>> user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows that is >>>>>>> when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this >>>>>>> assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my >>>>>>> problem elsewhere? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow >>>>>>>> with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person >>>>>>>>> goes to log into their machines. After you type in your password >>>>>>>>> the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the >>>>>>>>> screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your >>>>>>>>> personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it >>>>>>>>> have anything to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder >>>>>>>>> setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share is >>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the >>>>>>>>> offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the >>>>>>>>> share will not be available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline >>>>>>>>> settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and >>>>>>>>> programs that users specify will be available offline." I see >>>>>>>>> that there is another offline option that states, "All files and >>>>>>>>> programs that users open from the share will be automatically >>>>>>>>> available offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for >>>>>>>>> performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 of >>>>>>>>> my shares? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue also, >>>>>>>>> but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, but that break the roaming profile. Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the problem. Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & offline sync. You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to be so big ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always had > offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides in the > roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the Application > Data folder? > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the server. >> >> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected folder >> share like application data (if you are using redirected folders) >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>> copy)." >>> >>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. >>> My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group >>> Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and >>> Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's useless. >>>> >>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by >>>> windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline >>>> folder for this part. >>>> >>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>> copy). >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it >>>>> is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need >>>>> this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose >>>>> to be set to? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>>>>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>>>>> offline. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log >>>>>>>> on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because >>>>>>>> this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows >>>>>>>> that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this >>>>>>>> assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is >>>>>>>> my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow >>>>>>>>> with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person >>>>>>>>>> goes to log into their machines. After you type in your password >>>>>>>>>> the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is on the >>>>>>>>>> screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your >>>>>>>>>> personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it >>>>>>>>>> have anything to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder >>>>>>>>>> setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One share is >>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have the >>>>>>>>>> offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs from the >>>>>>>>>> share will not be available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The offline >>>>>>>>>> settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files and >>>>>>>>>> programs that users specify will be available offline." I see >>>>>>>>>> that there is another offline option that states, "All files and >>>>>>>>>> programs that users open from the share will be automatically >>>>>>>>>> available offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for >>>>>>>>>> performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 >>>>>>>>>> of my shares? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, but > that break the roaming profile. > Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the problem. > > Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't > set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & > offline sync. > > You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to be > so big ? > > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always >> had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides in >> the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the >> Application Data folder? >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the server. >>> >>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected folder >>> share like application data (if you are using redirected folders) >>> >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>> copy)." >>>> >>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. >>>> My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group >>>> Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users and >>>> Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>> useless. >>>>> >>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off by >>>>> windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline >>>>> folder for this part. >>>>> >>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>> copy). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and it >>>>>> is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I need >>>>>> this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is suppose >>>>>> to be set to? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>>>>>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>>>>>> offline. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log >>>>>>>>> on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because >>>>>>>>> this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows >>>>>>>>> that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in this >>>>>>>>> assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is >>>>>>>>> my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow >>>>>>>>>> with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person >>>>>>>>>>> goes to log into their machines. After you type in your >>>>>>>>>>> password the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" is >>>>>>>>>>> on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to >>>>>>>>>>> "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot >>>>>>>>>>> this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or >>>>>>>>>>> redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. One >>>>>>>>>>> share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have >>>>>>>>>>> the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or programs >>>>>>>>>>> from the share will not be available offline". My second share >>>>>>>>>>> is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the files >>>>>>>>>>> and programs that users specify will be available offline." I >>>>>>>>>>> see that there is another offline option that states, "All files >>>>>>>>>>> and programs that users open from the share will be >>>>>>>>>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box saying, >>>>>>>>>>> "Optimized for performance". Should I be using that setting >>>>>>>>>>> instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders You have to create a GPO: USER Administrative Templates\ System\ User Profiles Exclude directories in roaming profile Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally included in the user's profile. I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a workaround -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but > through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab > how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, >> but that break the roaming profile. >> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the problem. >> >> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't >> set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & >> offline sync. >> >> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to be >> so big ? >> >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always >>> had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides in >>> the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the >>> Application Data folder? >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>> server. >>>> >>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>> folders) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>> copy)." >>>>> >>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. >>>>> My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group >>>>> Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users >>>>> and Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>> useless. >>>>>> >>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off >>>>>> by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the offline >>>>>> folder for this part. >>>>>> >>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>> sync copy). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and >>>>>>> it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I >>>>>>> need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my >>>>>>> system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>>>>>>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>>>>>>> offline. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does log >>>>>>>>>> on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is because >>>>>>>>>> this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as it grows >>>>>>>>>> that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I correct in >>>>>>>>>> this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? >>>>>>>>>> Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow >>>>>>>>>>> with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person >>>>>>>>>>>> goes to log into their machines. After you type in your >>>>>>>>>>>> password the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" >>>>>>>>>>>> is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to >>>>>>>>>>>> "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to >>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming >>>>>>>>>>>> profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my >>>>>>>>>>>> server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming >>>>>>>>>>>> profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, >>>>>>>>>>>> "Files or programs from the share will not be available >>>>>>>>>>>> offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my >>>>>>>>>>>> desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only >>>>>>>>>>>> the files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>> offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my >>>>>>>>>>>> redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share >>>>>>>>>>>> are also set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>>>>>>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and programs >>>>>>>>>>>> that users open from the share will be automatically available >>>>>>>>>>>> offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for >>>>>>>>>>>> performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all 3 >>>>>>>>>>>> of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it still takes awhile to log on and off. "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > You have to create a GPO: > > USER > Administrative Templates\ > System\ > User Profiles > Exclude directories in roaming profile > > Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming > profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally included > in the user's profile. > > I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a > workaround > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab >> how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, >>> but that break the roaming profile. >>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the problem. >>> >>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't >>> set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & >>> offline sync. >>> >>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to be >>> so big ? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always >>>> had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides >>>> in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the >>>> Application Data folder? >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>> server. >>>>> >>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>> folders) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>>> copy)." >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned off. >>>>>> My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a Group >>>>>> Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD Users >>>>>> and Computers and set the path to \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off >>>>>>> by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>>> sync copy). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and >>>>>>>> it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I >>>>>>>> need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my >>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a Offline >>>>>>>>> folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile setup for >>>>>>>>> offline. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as >>>>>>>>>>> it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I >>>>>>>>>>> correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning my >>>>>>>>>>> profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so slow >>>>>>>>>>>> with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders for >>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a person >>>>>>>>>>>>> goes to log into their machines. After you type in your >>>>>>>>>>>>> password the message saying, "Loading your personal settings" >>>>>>>>>>>>> is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it changes to >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Applying your personal settings". What can I do to >>>>>>>>>>>>> troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my roaming >>>>>>>>>>>>> profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my >>>>>>>>>>>>> server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming >>>>>>>>>>>>> profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set to, >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Files or programs from the share will not be available >>>>>>>>>>>>> offline". My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my >>>>>>>>>>>>> desktops. I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only >>>>>>>>>>>>> the files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my >>>>>>>>>>>>> redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this share >>>>>>>>>>>>> are also set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>>>>>>>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and programs >>>>>>>>>>>>> that users open from the share will be automatically available >>>>>>>>>>>>> offline" it also has a check box saying, "Optimized for >>>>>>>>>>>>> performance". Should I be using that setting instead for all >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders 200MB just for the profile ? Do you get this size from the server ? The local one got more (temp...) You should not put files on the desktop, better on the MyDocs. Did you check if the server's volume is fragmented ? -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it > still takes awhile to log on and off. > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> You have to create a GPO: >> >> USER >> Administrative Templates\ >> System\ >> User Profiles >> Exclude directories in roaming profile >> >> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >> included in the user's profile. >> >> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a >> workaround >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab >>> how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, >>>> but that break the roaming profile. >>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't >>>> set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & >>>> offline sync. >>>> >>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to >>>> be so big ? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always >>>>> had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides >>>>> in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the >>>>> Application Data folder? >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>> server. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>> folders) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>>>> copy)." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD >>>>>>> Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off >>>>>>>> by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having >>>>>>>> a sync copy). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and >>>>>>>>> it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I >>>>>>>>> need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my >>>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile >>>>>>>>>> setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as >>>>>>>>>>>> it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I >>>>>>>>>>>> correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning >>>>>>>>>>>> my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> person goes to log into their machines. After you type in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your password the message saying, "Loading your personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this share >>>>>>>>>>>>>> set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> share will be automatically available offline" it also has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Anthony Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is the overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; dictionaries etc. It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you really want all your thumbnails roaming? Hope that helps, Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it > still takes awhile to log on and off. > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> You have to create a GPO: >> >> USER >> Administrative Templates\ >> System\ >> User Profiles >> Exclude directories in roaming profile >> >> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >> included in the user's profile. >> >> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a >> workaround >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile tab >>> how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, >>>> but that break the roaming profile. >>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you didn't >>>> set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected folder & >>>> offline sync. >>>> >>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to >>>> be so big ? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have always >>>>> had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder resides >>>>> in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not sync the >>>>> Application Data folder? >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>> server. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>> folders) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>>>> copy)." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD >>>>>>> Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log off >>>>>>>> by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having >>>>>>>> a sync copy). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there and >>>>>>>>> it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder if I >>>>>>>>> need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on my >>>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile >>>>>>>>>> setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but as >>>>>>>>>>>> it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I >>>>>>>>>>>> correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning >>>>>>>>>>>> my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> person goes to log into their machines. After you type in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your password the message saying, "Loading your personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this share >>>>>>>>>>>>>> set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> share will be automatically available offline" it also has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders It is the same on both the local and server. I am running Disk Keeper on my server so it maintains the fragmentation automatically. Yes We do use the redirected Desktop, and also MyDocs. Why would the redirected desktop be any different from the redirected MyDocs? "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message news:OyGfORJ4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > 200MB just for the profile ? Do you get this size from the server ? > The local one got more (temp...) > > You should not put files on the desktop, better on the MyDocs. > > Did you check if the server's volume is fragmented ? > > -- > Cordialement, > Mathieu CHATEAU > http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it >> still takes awhile to log on and off. >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> You have to create a GPO: >>> >>> USER >>> Administrative Templates\ >>> System\ >>> User Profiles >>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>> >>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>> included in the user's profile. >>> >>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a >>> workaround >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile >>>> tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, >>>>> but that break the roaming profile. >>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>> >>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to >>>>> be so big ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder >>>>>> resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not >>>>>> sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>> server. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>>> folders) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>>>>> copy)." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD >>>>>>>> Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log >>>>>>>>> off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having >>>>>>>>> a sync copy). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there >>>>>>>>>> and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder >>>>>>>>>> if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on >>>>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile >>>>>>>>>>> setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I >>>>>>>>>>>>> correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning >>>>>>>>>>>>> my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person goes to log into their machines. After you type in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your password the message saying, "Loading your personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share will be automatically available offline" it also has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my Adobe stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I have the profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB range? "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. > The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is the > overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; dictionaries > etc. > It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by > redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to > dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you really > want all your thumbnails roaming? > Hope that helps, > Anthony, > http://www.airdesk.co.uk > > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it >> still takes awhile to log on and off. >> >> >> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> You have to create a GPO: >>> >>> USER >>> Administrative Templates\ >>> System\ >>> User Profiles >>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>> >>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>> included in the user's profile. >>> >>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is a >>> workaround >>> -- >>> Cordialement, >>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile >>>> tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming profile, >>>>> but that break the roaming profile. >>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>> >>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to >>>>> be so big ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder >>>>>> resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not >>>>>> sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>> server. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>>> folders) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a sync >>>>>>>> copy)." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in AD >>>>>>>> Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log >>>>>>>>> off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having >>>>>>>>> a sync copy). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there >>>>>>>>>> and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder >>>>>>>>>> if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on >>>>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile >>>>>>>>>>> setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am I >>>>>>>>>>>>> correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for cleaning >>>>>>>>>>>>> my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person goes to log into their machines. After you type in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your password the message saying, "Loading your personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share will be automatically available offline" it also has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders For the desktop, you will be sure not to replicate through offline folder. We firstly used redirection on folder, and then rollback to fully roaming profile. Too many software that does poor "..\" and think they are in the root of the profile. (The desktop may work better than the application data). Don't forget, if you lost the connection to the server, all desktops will become empty on all station. We had this behaviour even with an MSCS cluster filer when moving resources It's even worst with the quicklaunch in application data, that won't came back without manual intervention. -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:uRrPB8M4HHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > It is the same on both the local and server. I am running Disk Keeper on > my server so it maintains the fragmentation automatically. Yes We do use > the redirected Desktop, and also MyDocs. Why would the redirected desktop > be any different from the redirected MyDocs? > > > "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message > news:OyGfORJ4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> 200MB just for the profile ? Do you get this size from the server ? >> The local one got more (temp...) >> >> You should not put files on the desktop, better on the MyDocs. >> >> Did you check if the server's volume is fragmented ? >> >> -- >> Cordialement, >> Mathieu CHATEAU >> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it >>> still takes awhile to log on and off. >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> You have to create a GPO: >>>> >>>> USER >>>> Administrative Templates\ >>>> System\ >>>> User Profiles >>>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>>> >>>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>>> included in the user's profile. >>>> >>>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is >>>> a workaround >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>>>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile >>>>> tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming >>>>>> profile, but that break the roaming profile. >>>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>>> problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to >>>>>> be so big ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder >>>>>>> resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not >>>>>>> sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>>>> folders) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>>>>> sync copy)." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in >>>>>>>>> AD Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log >>>>>>>>>> off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not >>>>>>>>>> having a sync copy). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there >>>>>>>>>>> and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder >>>>>>>>>>> if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on >>>>>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile >>>>>>>>>>>> setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person goes to log into their machines. After you type in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your password the message saying, "Loading your personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share will be automatically available offline" it also has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest Anthony Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders Its per application, so you need to look for the application setting or registry key that allows you to relocate settings. They don't all allow it. The folders in the profile are an MS standard and obviously not everyone follows it. Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:enHN79M4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my Adobe > stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I have the > profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB range? > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. >> The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is the >> overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; dictionaries >> etc. >> It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by >> redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to >> dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you really >> want all your thumbnails roaming? >> Hope that helps, >> Anthony, >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk >> >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and it >>> still takes awhile to log on and off. >>> >>> >>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> You have to create a GPO: >>>> >>>> USER >>>> Administrative Templates\ >>>> System\ >>>> User Profiles >>>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>>> >>>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>>> included in the user's profile. >>>> >>>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is >>>> a workaround >>>> -- >>>> Cordialement, >>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>>>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile >>>>> tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming >>>>>> profile, but that break the roaming profile. >>>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>>> problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain to >>>>>> be so big ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data folder >>>>>>> resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that to not >>>>>>> sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>>>> folders) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>>>>> sync copy)." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in >>>>>>>>> AD Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log >>>>>>>>>> off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using the >>>>>>>>>> offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not >>>>>>>>>> having a sync copy). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there >>>>>>>>>>> and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. Wonder >>>>>>>>>>> if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite loaded on >>>>>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my profile >>>>>>>>>>>> setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He does >>>>>>>>>>>>>> log on much quicker then everyone else. More assumption is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because this user really has nothing in his profile yet, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it grows that is when the logon process takes longer. Am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I correct in this assumption? Any recommendations for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person goes to log into their machines. After you type in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your password the message saying, "Loading your personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes before it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to "Applying your personal settings". What can I do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything to do with my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? I created 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shares on my server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the offline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings for this set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." My third share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected My Documents. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this share are also set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." I see that there is another offline option that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states, "All files and programs that users open from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share will be automatically available offline" it also has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a check box saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be using that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Scott Micale Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders So what are your suggestions for this GP? What folders do you allow and dis-allow from the users Profile? "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:OTwoliO4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Its per application, so you need to look for the application setting or > registry key that allows you to relocate settings. They don't all allow > it. > The folders in the profile are an MS standard and obviously not everyone > follows it. > Anthony, > http://www.airdesk.co.uk > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:enHN79M4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my >> Adobe stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I have >> the profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB range? >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. >>> The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is >>> the overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; >>> dictionaries etc. >>> It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by >>> redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to >>> dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you really >>> want all your thumbnails roaming? >>> Hope that helps, >>> Anthony, >>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and >>>> it still takes awhile to log on and off. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> You have to create a GPO: >>>>> >>>>> USER >>>>> Administrative Templates\ >>>>> System\ >>>>> User Profiles >>>>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>>>> >>>>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>>>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>>>> included in the user's profile. >>>>> >>>>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This is >>>>> a workaround >>>>> -- >>>>> Cordialement, >>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, but >>>>>> through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their profile >>>>>> tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming >>>>>>> profile, but that break the roaming profile. >>>>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain >>>>>>> to be so big ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data >>>>>>>> folder resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that >>>>>>>> to not sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>>>>> folders) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>>>>>> sync copy)." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using a >>>>>>>>>> Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties in >>>>>>>>>> AD Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log >>>>>>>>>>> off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using >>>>>>>>>>> the offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) if >>>>>>>>>>> used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not >>>>>>>>>>> having a sync copy). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there >>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. >>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite >>>>>>>>>>>> loaded on my system. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my >>>>>>>>>>>>> profile setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented filer... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does log on much quicker then everyone else. More >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption is because this user really has nothing in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected folders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for awhile and we are noticing some serious slowness when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a person goes to log into their machines. After you type >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in your password the message saying, "Loading your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal settings" is on the screen for a good 4-5 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before it changes to "Applying your personal settings". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What can I do to troubleshoot this? Does it have anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do with my roaming profiles or redirected folder setup? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created 3 shares on my server. One share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming profiles. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the offline setting on this share set to, "Files or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs from the share will not be available offline". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My second share is \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the offline settings for this set to, "Only the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and programs that users specify will be available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline." My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirected My Documents. The offline settings for this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share are also set to, "Only the files and programs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users specify will be available offline." I see that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is another offline option that states, "All files >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and programs that users open from the share will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Anthony Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders My approach is to keep it simple. Redirect all folders to the network share. Set a profile quota of 25MB. Deal with exceptions or problems as they arise but 99% should be able to work within this, Anthony, http://www.airdesk.co.uk "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message news:u6Z5dKP4HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > So what are your suggestions for this GP? What folders do you allow and > dis-allow from the users Profile? > > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:OTwoliO4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Its per application, so you need to look for the application setting or >> registry key that allows you to relocate settings. They don't all allow >> it. >> The folders in the profile are an MS standard and obviously not everyone >> follows it. >> Anthony, >> http://www.airdesk.co.uk >> >> >> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >> news:enHN79M4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my >>> Adobe stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I >>> have the profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB >>> range? >>> >>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>> news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. >>>> The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is >>>> the overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; >>>> dictionaries etc. >>>> It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by >>>> redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have to >>>> dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you >>>> really want all your thumbnails roaming? >>>> Hope that helps, >>>> Anthony, >>>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>> news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and >>>>> it still takes awhile to log on and off. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> You have to create a GPO: >>>>>> >>>>>> USER >>>>>> Administrative Templates\ >>>>>> System\ >>>>>> User Profiles >>>>>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>>>>> >>>>>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>>>>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>>>>> included in the user's profile. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This >>>>>> is a workaround >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, >>>>>>> but through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their >>>>>>> profile tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming >>>>>>>> profile, but that break the roaming profile. >>>>>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain >>>>>>>> to be so big ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data >>>>>>>>> folder resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set that >>>>>>>>> to not sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on redirected >>>>>>>>>> folder share like application data (if you are using redirected >>>>>>>>>> folders) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it on >>>>>>>>>>> redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>>>>>>> sync copy)." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that turned >>>>>>>>>>> off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected folder using >>>>>>>>>>> a Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the Users Properties >>>>>>>>>>> in AD Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and log >>>>>>>>>>>> off by windows based on the modification date. It's not using >>>>>>>>>>>> the offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) >>>>>>>>>>>> if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not >>>>>>>>>>>> having a sync copy). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in there >>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB data. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master Suite >>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded on my system. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filer... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does log on much quicker then everyone else. More >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption is because this user really has nothing in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon process >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? Any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my problem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow with an empty profile, that's something else (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folders for awhile and we are noticing some serious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowness when a person goes to log into their machines. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After you type in your password the message saying, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my server. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my roaming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profiles. I have the offline setting on this share set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to, "Files or programs from the share will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this set to, "Only the files and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs that users specify will be available offline." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Documents. The offline settings for this share are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs that users open from the share will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Mathieu CHATEAU Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Roaming Profiles and redirected folders You can set this quota through GPO: USER Administrative Templates\ System\ User Profiles Limit profile size Users will get a new icon in the systray so they will now if they are overquota, and get a list of the biggest files. The icon is proquota.exe, which like a bit too much cpu and disk io, but it's free and builtin Windows -- Cordialement, Mathieu CHATEAU http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:uByUGpP4HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > My approach is to keep it simple. Redirect all folders to the network > share. Set a profile quota of 25MB. Deal with exceptions or problems as > they arise but 99% should be able to work within this, > Anthony, > http://www.airdesk.co.uk > > > "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message > news:u6Z5dKP4HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> So what are your suggestions for this GP? What folders do you allow and >> dis-allow from the users Profile? >> >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:OTwoliO4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Its per application, so you need to look for the application setting or >>> registry key that allows you to relocate settings. They don't all allow >>> it. >>> The folders in the profile are an MS standard and obviously not everyone >>> follows it. >>> Anthony, >>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk >>> >>> >>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>> news:enHN79M4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> No I do not want all my Adobe stuff roaming. How can I make it so my >>>> Adobe stuff does not continue to put stuff on the server profile? I >>>> have the profile down to 172MB. How can I get that down to the 5-25MB >>>> range? >>>> >>>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>>> news:eAyLEOL4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>I think the recommendation is 5MB, and 25MB max. >>>>> The profile is intended to be settings, not data. The problem area is >>>>> the overlap in things like Adobe thumbnails; Dreamweaver data; >>>>> dictionaries etc. >>>>> It should be possible to get the profile down to 25MB or less by >>>>> redirecting all the data. In a few cases (Adobe is one) you may have >>>>> to dispense with the roaming profile and leave it local - but do you >>>>> really want all your thumbnails roaming? >>>>> Hope that helps, >>>>> Anthony, >>>>> http://www.airdesk.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>> news:OqkCzEH4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Any idea how big the profile should be? I got mine down to 200MB and >>>>>> it still takes awhile to log on and off. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>> news:uJ3L%23%23E4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> You have to create a GPO: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> USER >>>>>>> Administrative Templates\ >>>>>>> System\ >>>>>>> User Profiles >>>>>>> Exclude directories in roaming profile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lets you add to the list of folders excluded from the user's roaming >>>>>>> profile. This setting lets you exclude folders that are normally >>>>>>> included in the user's profile. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would prefer to really correct the origin, the adobe folder. This >>>>>>> is a workaround >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:OWcGU1E4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Ok since the roaming profile is not setup through a Group Policy, >>>>>>>> but through the Users Profile in AD Users and Computers on their >>>>>>>> profile tab how do you tell it there to exclude certain folders? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:uJFiMxE4HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> You can manualy exclude the application data from the roaming >>>>>>>>> profile, but that break the roaming profile. >>>>>>>>> Or you may just exclude this adobe folder which seems to be the >>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't mess up, the redirected folder are specific in GPO, if you >>>>>>>>> didn't set it explicitly, you can ignore my comments on redirected >>>>>>>>> folder & offline sync. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You may try to simply purge the adobe folder. What does it contain >>>>>>>>> to be so big ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:Ozw2ZuE4HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> Ok my Offline settings on the server for the Profile share have >>>>>>>>>> always had offline sync turned off, but that Application Data >>>>>>>>>> folder resides in the roaming profile folder. How do you set >>>>>>>>>> that to not sync the Application Data folder? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ex9xTpE4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> the offline sync i am speaking is a property of the share on the >>>>>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Should be disable on the roaming profile share, and on >>>>>>>>>>> redirected folder share like application data (if you are using >>>>>>>>>>> redirected folders) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:u$z2OhE4HHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you explain more what you mean by, "You shouldn't have it >>>>>>>>>>>> on redirected folder (application data) if used, >>>>>>>>>>>> because it break the goal with redirected folder (not having a >>>>>>>>>>>> sync copy)." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am not using Offline files on the Profile. I have that >>>>>>>>>>>> turned off. My Roaming profile is not setup as redirected >>>>>>>>>>>> folder using a Group Policy. I go to the Profile tab in the >>>>>>>>>>>> Users Properties in AD Users and Computers and set the path to >>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\Profiles\%username%. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:Od5cibE4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>> you mean the offline setup on the roaming profile share ? it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> useless. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Roaming profile is synced with the local copy on log on and >>>>>>>>>>>>> log off by windows based on the modification date. It's not >>>>>>>>>>>>> using the offline folder for this part. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You shouldn't have it on redirected folder (application data) >>>>>>>>>>>>> if used, because it break the goal with redirected folder (not >>>>>>>>>>>>> having a sync copy). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23OTVmXE4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, now I am getting somewhere. I see a Adobe folder in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and it is the folder that is housing all my 3.6 GB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data. Wonder if I need this folder. I have the Adobe Master >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite loaded on my system. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what the Offline setting for a Roaming Profile is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose to be set to? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eTY7dTE4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My profile is 3.6 GB which is huge I know. My Mydocs is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Offline folder and also my desktop is. I don't have my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile setup for offline. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ewXsswD4HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it's really quick, it's not due to bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration/setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now you have to digg on the profile size, fragmented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filer... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How big are your profiles ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any offline sync folder? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OHvFfmD4HHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I created a new user and set him up the same way. He >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does log on much quicker then everyone else. More >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption is because this user really has nothing in his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profile yet, but as it grows that is when the logon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process takes longer. Am I correct in this assumption? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any recommendations for cleaning my profiles? Or is my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem elsewhere? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u6JzLPD4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you trying by creating a fresh user ? If it's still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so slow with an empty profile, that's something else >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dns...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any eventlog error entry ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordialement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scott Micale" <hrm_admin@news.postalias> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:eUM3d6C4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using roaming profiles and redirected >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folders for awhile and we are noticing some serious >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowness when a person goes to log into their machines. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After you type in your password the message saying, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Loading your personal settings" is on the screen for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good 4-5 minutes before it changes to "Applying your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal settings". What can I do to troubleshoot this? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it have anything to do with my roaming profiles or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirected folder setup? I created 3 shares on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server. One share is \\server_name\Profiles\ for my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roaming profiles. I have the offline setting on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share set to, "Files or programs from the share will not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be available offline". My second share is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \\server_name\desktops for my desktops. I have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offline settings for this set to, "Only the files and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs that users specify will be available offline." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My third share is \\server_name\MyDocs for my redirected >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Documents. The offline settings for this share are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also set to, "Only the files and programs that users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specify will be available offline." I see that there is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another offline option that states, "All files and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs that users open from the share will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically available offline" it also has a check box >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, "Optimized for performance". Should I be using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that setting instead for all 3 of my shares? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have read somewhere that this could be a DNS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue also, but I don't really think that is the case. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Scott >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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