Guest 98 Guy Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: Time to leave WIN 98? (I'm adding ms.p.w98.gd to this reply) Nathan Bean wrote: > as i continue looking for a new motherboard... tiger direct is > leading me to this board... K8M890M-V Socket 939 Micro-ATX > anybody using it? Looks like you'll be able to get it functional in win-98 by downloading the via drivers from here: http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=6&CatID=1110 Specifically: http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VIA_HyperionPro_V512A.zip (VIA Hyperion Pro Driver Package) That board has PCI and PCI-e slots. You won't be able to get a pci-e video card running on win-98, so you'll have to find a PCI video card. If you are a die-hard AMD fan, you might want to look at this board: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939Dual-VSTA&s=939 (Asrock 939Dual-VSTA) It uses the ULi M1695 chipset, which seems to have win-98 support: http://www.uli.com.tw/eng/support/drivers.php (Note that ULi was purchased by NVidia in Dec. 2005) Otherwise, you might want to look at this board: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4COREDUAL-VSTA (Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA) It uses the VIA PT880 Ultra Chipset (same link as above for the drivers). It can take DDR and DDR-2 memory, and it has a PCI-e ->AND<- AGP-8x slots. The downside to this board is that you won't get the audio working so you'll have to use a separate sound card.
Guest Dan Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Time to leave WIN 98? Re: Time to leave WIN 98? As 98/98SE gets older it will get harder and harder to buy new hardware that is compatible with the operating system. The latest statistics from http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp show 98's market share to be down to 0.9%. I still think that about a 1% market share is great for an operating system from 1998 -- 98 /1999 -- 98SE One must also determine how reliable the satistics are on this page and I am not sure if the stats. are just from the U.S.A or from all over the world. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "98 Guy" wrote: > (I'm adding ms.p.w98.gd to this reply) > > Nathan Bean wrote: > > > as i continue looking for a new motherboard... tiger direct is > > leading me to this board... K8M890M-V Socket 939 Micro-ATX > > anybody using it? > > Looks like you'll be able to get it functional in win-98 by > downloading the via drivers from here: > > http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=6&CatID=1110 > > Specifically: > > http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VIA_HyperionPro_V512A.zip > > (VIA Hyperion Pro Driver Package) > > That board has PCI and PCI-e slots. You won't be able to get a pci-e > video card running on win-98, so you'll have to find a PCI video card. > > If you are a die-hard AMD fan, you might want to look at this board: > > http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939Dual-VSTA&s=939 > > (Asrock 939Dual-VSTA) > > It uses the ULi M1695 chipset, which seems to have win-98 support: > > http://www.uli.com.tw/eng/support/drivers.php > > (Note that ULi was purchased by NVidia in Dec. 2005) > > Otherwise, you might want to look at this board: > > http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4COREDUAL-VSTA > > (Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA) > > It uses the VIA PT880 Ultra Chipset (same link as above for the > drivers). It can take DDR and DDR-2 memory, and it has a PCI-e > ->AND<- AGP-8x slots. The downside to this board is that you won't > get the audio working so you'll have to use a separate sound card. >
Guest 98 Guy Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Time to leave WIN 98? Re: Time to leave WIN 98? Dan wrote: > As 98/98SE gets older it will get harder and harder to buy new > hardware that is compatible with the operating system. I'm sure most would agree that the fact that there are still motherboards made and sold today (Q-3 2007) that have win-98 support at the chipset level has exceeded longevity and availability expectations. > The latest statistics from > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp > > show 98's market share to be down to 0.9%. I would love to see google's numbers as to what browsers and OS's are used to access their search page. Another browser and OS stat page can be found here: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/os.php Substitute any month or year in the above URL to get results for that time frame. That site is showing Win-98 currently at 2% - well above Vista (!). If you compare the results from January and May (roughly the same traffic counts for both) XP has declined by 1%, Win-2K and MAC have remained the same (6% and 4%) but for some reason Win-NT has shot up from 0% to 2%. It's almost as if a lot of win-98 systems were replaced with NT this year. Strange. A year ago (June 2006) Win-98 was at 5%. There may well be more people (world-wide) running Win 3.x than Vista right now. Here's the stats for browser use: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/browser.php
Guest Dan Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Time to leave WIN 98? Re: Time to leave WIN 98? I wonder if Windows NT might have shot up because Microsoft recently had some kind of announcement that it would support Windows NT if the business had a certain license with Microsoft. I think that annocement happened maybe 8 months ago or less but I am not sure. BTW, 98 Guy are you still applying Internet Explorer 6 patches from Windows 2000 to your 98SE computer or has that process made IE 6 very unstable. I am not worried since I have a good strong router and now have domain access to work computer from home computer which tightens the security standard even more for me. I think MEB has some good ideas but I agree with you that the number #1 line of defense needs to be a good strong hardware firewall built into the router that blocks everything bad. I used to mistakenly think that the software firewall was key but it is much less useful when you have a good first line of defense because so much malware can disable or change its settings anyway. Another thing that really bugs me recently I noticed how Creative had links to Free AOL which I had to manually delete and the cd put the Free AOL link into my trusted sites which I promptly deleted. Ati is up to this game as well with having a Wild Tangent demo on their cd that is installed unless the user does a custom installation. It makes me all the more just rely on the basic driver from the website of the company. If companies add crap to that too then I will be p_ssed. Thanks for listening to my thoughts on this and have a great day. "98 Guy" wrote: > Dan wrote: > > > As 98/98SE gets older it will get harder and harder to buy new > > hardware that is compatible with the operating system. > > I'm sure most would agree that the fact that there are still > motherboards made and sold today (Q-3 2007) that have win-98 support > at the chipset level has exceeded longevity and availability > expectations. > > > The latest statistics from > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp > > > > show 98's market share to be down to 0.9%. > > I would love to see google's numbers as to what browsers and OS's are > used to access their search page. > > Another browser and OS stat page can be found here: > > http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/os.php > > Substitute any month or year in the above URL to get results for that > time frame. > > That site is showing Win-98 currently at 2% - well above Vista (!). > > If you compare the results from January and May (roughly the same > traffic counts for both) XP has declined by 1%, Win-2K and MAC have > remained the same (6% and 4%) but for some reason Win-NT has shot up > from 0% to 2%. It's almost as if a lot of win-98 systems were > replaced with NT this year. Strange. > > A year ago (June 2006) Win-98 was at 5%. > > There may well be more people (world-wide) running Win 3.x than Vista > right now. > > Here's the stats for browser use: > > http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/browser.php >
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