Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

(I'm adding ms.p.w98.gd to this reply)

 

Nathan Bean wrote:

> as i continue looking for a new motherboard... tiger direct is

> leading me to this board... K8M890M-V Socket 939 Micro-ATX

> anybody using it?

 

Looks like you'll be able to get it functional in win-98 by

downloading the via drivers from here:

 

http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=6&CatID=1110

 

Specifically:

 

http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VIA_HyperionPro_V512A.zip

 

(VIA Hyperion Pro Driver Package)

 

That board has PCI and PCI-e slots. You won't be able to get a pci-e

video card running on win-98, so you'll have to find a PCI video card.

 

If you are a die-hard AMD fan, you might want to look at this board:

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939Dual-VSTA&s=939

 

(Asrock 939Dual-VSTA)

 

It uses the ULi M1695 chipset, which seems to have win-98 support:

 

http://www.uli.com.tw/eng/support/drivers.php

 

(Note that ULi was purchased by NVidia in Dec. 2005)

 

Otherwise, you might want to look at this board:

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4COREDUAL-VSTA

 

(Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA)

 

It uses the VIA PT880 Ultra Chipset (same link as above for the

drivers). It can take DDR and DDR-2 memory, and it has a PCI-e

->AND<- AGP-8x slots. The downside to this board is that you won't

get the audio working so you'll have to use a separate sound card.

[Guest Dan]

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

As 98/98SE gets older it will get harder and harder to buy new hardware that

is compatible with the operating system. The latest statistics from

 

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

 

show 98's market share to be down to 0.9%. I still think that about a 1%

market share is great for an operating system from 1998 -- 98 /1999 -- 98SE

One must also determine how reliable the satistics are on this page and I am

not sure if the stats. are just from the U.S.A or from all over the world.

 

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"98 Guy" wrote:

> (I'm adding ms.p.w98.gd to this reply)

>

> Nathan Bean wrote:

>

> > as i continue looking for a new motherboard... tiger direct is

> > leading me to this board... K8M890M-V Socket 939 Micro-ATX

> > anybody using it?

>

> Looks like you'll be able to get it functional in win-98 by

> downloading the via drivers from here:

>

> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=6&CatID=1110

>

> Specifically:

>

> http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/VIA_HyperionPro_V512A.zip

>

> (VIA Hyperion Pro Driver Package)

>

> That board has PCI and PCI-e slots. You won't be able to get a pci-e

> video card running on win-98, so you'll have to find a PCI video card.

>

> If you are a die-hard AMD fan, you might want to look at this board:

>

> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=939Dual-VSTA&s=939

>

> (Asrock 939Dual-VSTA)

>

> It uses the ULi M1695 chipset, which seems to have win-98 support:

>

> http://www.uli.com.tw/eng/support/drivers.php

>

> (Note that ULi was purchased by NVidia in Dec. 2005)

>

> Otherwise, you might want to look at this board:

>

> http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=4COREDUAL-VSTA

>

> (Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA)

>

> It uses the VIA PT880 Ultra Chipset (same link as above for the

> drivers). It can take DDR and DDR-2 memory, and it has a PCI-e

> ->AND<- AGP-8x slots. The downside to this board is that you won't

> get the audio working so you'll have to use a separate sound card.

>

[Guest 98 Guy]

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

Dan wrote:

> As 98/98SE gets older it will get harder and harder to buy new

> hardware that is compatible with the operating system.

 

I'm sure most would agree that the fact that there are still

motherboards made and sold today (Q-3 2007) that have win-98 support

at the chipset level has exceeded longevity and availability

expectations.

> The latest statistics from

>

> http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

>

> show 98's market share to be down to 0.9%.

 

I would love to see google's numbers as to what browsers and OS's are

used to access their search page.

 

Another browser and OS stat page can be found here:

 

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/os.php

 

Substitute any month or year in the above URL to get results for that

time frame.

 

That site is showing Win-98 currently at 2% - well above Vista (!).

 

If you compare the results from January and May (roughly the same

traffic counts for both) XP has declined by 1%, Win-2K and MAC have

remained the same (6% and 4%) but for some reason Win-NT has shot up

from 0% to 2%. It's almost as if a lot of win-98 systems were

replaced with NT this year. Strange.

 

A year ago (June 2006) Win-98 was at 5%.

 

There may well be more people (world-wide) running Win 3.x than Vista

right now.

 

Here's the stats for browser use:

 

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/browser.php

[Guest Dan]

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

Re: Time to leave WIN 98?

 

I wonder if Windows NT might have shot up because Microsoft recently had some

kind of announcement that it would support Windows NT if the business had a

certain license with Microsoft. I think that annocement happened maybe 8

months ago or less but I am not sure. BTW, 98 Guy are you still applying

Internet Explorer 6 patches from Windows 2000 to your 98SE computer or has

that process made IE 6 very unstable. I am not worried since I have a good

strong router and now have domain access to work computer from home computer

which tightens the security standard even more for me. I think MEB has some

good ideas but I agree with you that the number #1 line of defense needs to

be a good strong hardware firewall built into the router that blocks

everything bad. I used to mistakenly think that the software firewall was

key but it is much less useful when you have a good first line of defense

because so much malware can disable or change its settings anyway. Another

thing that really bugs me recently I noticed how Creative had links to Free

AOL which I had to manually delete and the cd put the Free AOL link into my

trusted sites which I promptly deleted. Ati is up to this game as well with

having a Wild Tangent demo on their cd that is installed unless the user does

a custom installation. It makes me all the more just rely on the basic

driver from the website of the company. If companies add crap to that too

then I will be p_ssed. Thanks for listening to my thoughts on this and have

a great day.

 

"98 Guy" wrote:

> Dan wrote:

>

> > As 98/98SE gets older it will get harder and harder to buy new

> > hardware that is compatible with the operating system.

>

> I'm sure most would agree that the fact that there are still

> motherboards made and sold today (Q-3 2007) that have win-98 support

> at the chipset level has exceeded longevity and availability

> expectations.

>

> > The latest statistics from

> >

> > http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

> >

> > show 98's market share to be down to 0.9%.

>

> I would love to see google's numbers as to what browsers and OS's are

> used to access their search page.

>

> Another browser and OS stat page can be found here:

>

> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/os.php

>

> Substitute any month or year in the above URL to get results for that

> time frame.

>

> That site is showing Win-98 currently at 2% - well above Vista (!).

>

> If you compare the results from January and May (roughly the same

> traffic counts for both) XP has declined by 1%, Win-2K and MAC have

> remained the same (6% and 4%) but for some reason Win-NT has shot up

> from 0% to 2%. It's almost as if a lot of win-98 systems were

> replaced with NT this year. Strange.

>

> A year ago (June 2006) Win-98 was at 5%.

>

> There may well be more people (world-wide) running Win 3.x than Vista

> right now.

>

> Here's the stats for browser use:

>

> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/browser.php

>