Hey all.. crashing problem!

[Dalo Harkin]

It'll slow the PC but make it run without crashing - set all the overclocking options in the BIOS to AUTO

[ginggoth]

I actually couldn't find any overclocking options in the bios.. it seems pretty limited..

 

I found a review of it though, and perhaps it's this:

 

"very good mobo for the price, has average overclocking specs, with bios update accepts the higher 775 cpu's, thing to note it has a 8 pin connection onboard for power which most psu's dont have, i had to buy a convertor for the power to even out."

 

It said in the manual using a 4pin plug from the power supply is fine.. but maybe not?

Would I need to buy something like this? :

4-Pin Power Supply to 8-Pin ATX Server Board Converter - Power Cables & Accessories at PCLoft.com

[Dalo Harkin]

Intel CPU Motherboards use an 8 pin

AMD CPU Motherboards use a 4 pin

 

*If yours does not have the 8 pin one connected then this would result in the shutdowns*

 

Most PSU's do have them unless the PSU is over 4-5 years.

The overclocking options are normally when you enter the BIOS they are normally the top left and will say Overclocking or Advanced options.

Edited August 5, 2008 by Dalo Harkin

[ginggoth]

*small sigh of relief*

That'll be it then :D

Can't get one today but will do soon

our power supply is new, it just didn't come with 8 pin.

 

And nah man I only PC health status where you're pointing to.. can't remember them all ofc, but there was no word of overclocking on there :confused:

[Dalo Harkin]

If it doesn't have one then that will be it - come and tell us if its resolved when you get one and feel free to ask any other questions you have :)

[ginggoth]

cool will do :)

Thanks alot hehe :D

[ginggoth]

Hey all :)

 

I have the 4pin female to 8pin male ATX cable, are there any tests i can perform to see if it makes alot of difference to power distribution..? if that is the problem :rolleyes:

 

Thanks, Natalie :)

[ginggoth]

Hey :)

 

I put in the cable, it didnt like it the first time round, it started but nothing came up on screen so i gave it a bit, and had a poke around, and now she's running :D

 

Although I ran CPUID and teh results came out the same as on page 3, is that expected?

I updated the bios too (only came out couple weeks ago) and I'm about to check out if there's any more overclocking options in the BIOS as there wasn't before (when u asked me to automate them)

 

cheers :rolleyes:

[ginggoth]

ahh it crashed last night!!! NOOOOOO!!! Of course, started up once I'd left her alone for 30 minutes... the hardware was barely warm nevermind hot (as with the cold weather last night:( )

[Dalo Harkin]

Hey all :)

 

I have the 4pin female to 8pin male ATX cable, are there any tests i can perform to see if it makes alot of difference to power distribution..? if that is the problem :rolleyes:

 

Thanks, Natalie :)

 

Right this is VERY confusing - AMD uses the 4 pin ATX cable and INTEL uses the 8 pin ATX - are you confusing it with something else, or am I?

[ginggoth]

lol :)

 

Ok, the motherboard (intel chip) has an 8pin hole there for the power but the power supply only came with a 4 pin cable, so i bought an adapter from the 4pin cable to the 8pin hole.

[Dalo Harkin]

Right there are some issues with this - please clarify:-

do you have a 24 pin ATX cable on the MOBO and a 4 pin ATX or do you have a 20 pin that also has a detachable 4 pin and this has the adapter on it?

Is your MOBO 20 or 24 pin?

[Dalo Harkin]

lol :)

 

Ok, the motherboard (intel chip) has an 8pin hole there for the power but the power supply only came with a 4 pin cable, so i bought an adapter from the 4pin cable to the 8pin hole.

 

Also it is very rare that they only have a 4 pin and not an 8 pin aswell.

[ginggoth]

Right there are some issues with this - please clarify:-

do you have a 24 pin ATX cable on the MOBO and a 4 pin ATX or do you have a 20 pin that also has a detachable 4 pin and this has the adapter on it?

Is your MOBO 20 or 24 pin?

 

That one is 24-pin on my mobo

[Dalo Harkin]

Ok - so you have a 24 pin ATX and a seperate 4pin ATX cable - using a 4 pin to an 8 pin adapter should be fine -

its just that some PSU's come with 2x 4 pin ATX cables that join together to form an 8 pin one ;)

[ginggoth]

Ok - so you have a 24 pin ATX and a seperate 4pin ATX cable - using a 4 pin to an 8 pin adapter should be fine -

its just that some PSU's come with 2x 4 pin ATX cables that join together to form an 8 pin one ;)

 

oh ok I get it :)

 

I don't think that solved whatever the problem is though, but I'll keep digging

[Dalo Harkin]

When you say that you have to leave the PC for 30 minutes for it to work again - when you turn it back on again are all the settings in the BIOS the same - if they are reverting back to the factory settings then it may be the MOBO or the PSU, have you changed the CMOS battery at all?

[ginggoth]

When you say that you have to leave the PC for 30 minutes for it to work again - when you turn it back on again are all the settings in the BIOS the same - if they are reverting back to the factory settings then it may be the MOBO or the PSU, have you changed the CMOS battery at all?

 

The bios remains the same after starting up again, and yeah we did buy (and put in) a new battery with the mobo.. jus incase, u know what pc world are like lmao:D

[Dalo Harkin]

Right - can you run something like a game for 5 minutes and then restart the PC - go into the BIOS and post all the temps and the Voltages - and if you can get a tool for monitoring the GPU temp, and let me know that.

we will get there in the end. :D

[ginggoth]

Right - can you run something like a game for 5 minutes and then restart the PC - go into the BIOS and post all the temps and the Voltages - and if you can get a tool for monitoring the GPU temp, and let me know that.

we will get there in the end. :D

 

 

ok cool thanks, I'll do that now.. i got a cpu temp program, ill look for a gpu first:)

[ginggoth]

ok I installed GPU-Z (before game running)

GPU temp: 54.0 oC

GPU core Clock: 459.0 mhz

GPU memory clock: 400.0mhz

 

and im a minute I'll run the game.. I'll try cmmand n conquer 3 tib wars.. it usually crashes more if i have music running in the background too but i wont have that on :)

[Dalo Harkin]

ok I installed GPU-Z (before game running)

GPU temp: 54.0 oC

GPU core Clock: 459.0 mhz

GPU memory clock: 400.0mhz

 

and im a minute I'll run the game.. I'll try cmmand n conquer 3 tib wars.. it usually crashes more if i have music running in the background too but i wont have that on :)

 

when you say 54 oC - thats pretty hot - have you uprated the cooler?

[ginggoth]

when you say 54 oC - thats pretty hot - have you uprated the cooler?

 

no actually :rolleyes: I have an acrtic cooling fan for the nvidia 6800 will that fit my 8400?

EDIT: which is the NV5 silencer (Arctic Cooling)

(..found not to be compatible so will look up thier newer range)

 

I played the game, restarted, BIOS'd it up, upon restarting again it crashed, so waited n restarted again lol but got the following:

 

GPU temp during game: 54oC

(after crashing n sitting there for 30 mins) gpu temp: 48oC

 

BIOS crap after first restart after gaming..

cpu temp: 56oC

system temp?: 60 oC

 

Voltages I only found these:

 

Vcore: 139

Vddr: 182

+3.3: 3.36

+12 12.28

+5.0: 5.16

 

hope that helps? Sorry man, this is so annoying!

 

EDIT #2: Ok if its a cooling thing ill get on it.. I'm wondering now if we ended up downgrading our GFX card, we went from nvidia geforce 6800 (gs i think) to the nvidia geforce 8400gs (as we were previously told the old gfx card was at fault) ... so did we end up shooting ourselves in the foot in the end? if the last one IS fine and runs better than our current it has a better cooling fan on it.. then i might whack it back in n see whats going on :)

Edited September 11, 2008 by ginggoth

[Dalo Harkin]

no actually :rolleyes: I have an acrtic cooling fan for the nvidia 6800 will that fit my 8400?

EDIT: which is the NV5 silencer (Arctic Cooling)

(..found not to be compatible so will look up thier newer range)

 

I played the game, restarted, BIOS'd it up, upon restarting again it crashed, so waited n restarted again lol but got the following:

 

GPU temp during game: 54oC

(after crashing n sitting there for 30 mins) gpu temp: 48oC

 

BIOS crap after first restart after gaming..

cpu temp: 56oC

system temp?: 60 oC

 

Voltages I only found these:

 

Vcore: 139

Vddr: 182

+3.3: 3.36

+12 12.28

+5.0: 5.16

 

hope that helps? Sorry man, this is so annoying!

 

EDIT #2: Ok if its a cooling thing ill get on it.. I'm wondering now if we ended up downgrading our GFX card, we went from nvidia geforce 6800 (gs i think) to the nvidia geforce 8400gs (as we were previously told the old gfx card was at fault) ... so did we end up shooting ourselves in the foot in the end? if the last one IS fine and runs better than our current it has a better cooling fan on it.. then i might whack it back in n see whats going on :)

 

thats VERY hot - you need much better cooling!

MORE FANS in the case will definately help - can you post a pic of the inside of the case please :)

[ginggoth]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v360/ginggoth/pcpcpc.jpg

 

Also, she's sitting right infront of a usually opened window (and ofc its always cold :D)