Guest Sageman Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in his lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been deleted. Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or is there another way to do this in future. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
Guest nass Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 RE: IE History - Can I recover it "Sageman" wrote: > We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in his > lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been deleted. > Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or is > there another way to do this in future. > > Thanks in advance for any help or advice. You can use this if you would like to nail the sun of gun, but if good at his/her job and having a bad habit, then you need to tame of the shrew style?. Implement a GPO policy you the admin and the rest are limited on what they can do, for example cannot deleting their History or able to download software on that account..etc.: To create a new Group Policy object http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/createnewgpo.mspx?mfr=true How To Use Group Policy to Deploy Windows XP in a Windows 2000-Based Network http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314953 Lots of info here can be found: http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=how+to+create+a+group+policy+on+XP Then you can read the Index.dat info and see the whole crap He/She been viewing and let them face it and understand the danger they put first themselves and the Co in, Financial and moral Effects!. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index.dat Index Dat Spy 2.0 http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=89 HTH. nass -------- http://www.nasstec.co.uk
Guest Peter Foldes Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Adding to the answer that nass has posted You have posted this query before and you have gotten answers. The answer was NO you cannot recover the History links once they were deleted. You can as nass has told you and try to stop the practice on what the employee is doing. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in his > lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been deleted. > Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or is > there another way to do this in future. > > Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >
Guest Sageman Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 RE: IE History - Can I recover it Thanks Nass - He stupidly did not remove the temporary internet files - not pleasant reading - plenty of ammunition for the disciplinary hearing. Good idea about the GPO - we are going to modify the policy so that noone can delete their history - we'll see in time what that will bring. Thanks for your help. "nass" wrote: > > > "Sageman" wrote: > > > We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in his > > lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been deleted. > > Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or is > > there another way to do this in future. > > > > Thanks in advance for any help or advice. > > You can use this if you would like to nail the sun of gun, but if good at > his/her job and having a bad habit, then you need to tame of the shrew style?. > Implement a GPO policy you the admin and the rest are limited on what they > can do, for example cannot deleting their History or able to download > software on that account..etc.: > To create a new Group Policy object > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/createnewgpo.mspx?mfr=true > How To Use Group Policy to Deploy Windows XP in a Windows 2000-Based Network > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314953 > Lots of info here can be found: > http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&q=how+to+create+a+group+policy+on+XP > Then you can read the Index.dat info and see the whole crap He/She been > viewing and let them face it and understand the danger they put first > themselves and the Co in, Financial and moral Effects!. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index.dat > Index Dat Spy 2.0 > http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=89 > HTH. > nass > -------- > http://www.nasstec.co.uk
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Sageman, You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the Index.dat files which will tell you which sites this user has been on Here's the free download: http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp The above tool is absolutely superb!!! You will need to register for a free Code Project account When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will contain all URL's At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat files, seleted or none on next boot The download has a network version of the tool too Hope this helps, -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in his > lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been deleted. > Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or is > there another way to do this in future. > > Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also deleted TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when deleting these caches. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Sageman, > > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the > Index.dat > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on > > Here's the free download: > > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp > > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! > > You will need to register for a free Code Project account > > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will > contain all > URL's > > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat files, > seleted or none on next boot > > The download has a network version of the tool too > > Hope this helps, > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in >> his >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been >> deleted. >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or >> is >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> > >
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Gary, The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, cookies, cache has been deleted - believe me Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also deleted > TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when deleting > these caches. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > Sageman, > > > > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the > > Index.dat > > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on > > > > Here's the free download: > > > > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp > > > > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! > > > > You will need to register for a free Code Project account > > > > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will > > contain all > > URL's > > > > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat files, > > seleted or none on next boot > > > > The download has a network version of the tool too > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > -- > > Newbie Coder > > (It's just a name) > > > > > > > > > > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in > >> his > >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been > >> deleted. > >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or > >> is > >> there another way to do this in future. > >> > >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. > >> > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a machine where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that when you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get deleted. I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT files, also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, forever? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, > cookies, > cache has been deleted - believe me > > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also deleted >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when deleting >> these caches. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > Sageman, >> > >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the >> > Index.dat >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> > >> > Here's the free download: >> > >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> > >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> > >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> > >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will >> > contain all >> > URL's >> > >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat >> > files, >> > seleted or none on next boot >> > >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> > >> > Hope this helps, >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites >> >> in >> >> his >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been >> >> deleted. >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at >> >> or >> >> is >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Gary, The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 or 4 years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I have seen some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are 32kb/48kb/64kb Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is exactly what he wants -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a machine > where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that when > you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get deleted. > I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT files, > also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, > forever? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Gary, > > > > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, > > cookies, > > cache has been deleted - believe me > > > > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself > > > > -- > > Newbie Coder > > (It's just a name) > > > > > > > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also deleted > >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when deleting > >> these caches. > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> > Sageman, > >> > > >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the > >> > Index.dat > >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on > >> > > >> > Here's the free download: > >> > > >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp > >> > > >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! > >> > > >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account > >> > > >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will > >> > contain all > >> > URL's > >> > > >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat > >> > files, > >> > seleted or none on next boot > >> > > >> > The download has a network version of the tool too > >> > > >> > Hope this helps, > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Newbie Coder > >> > (It's just a name) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites > >> >> in > >> >> his > >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been > >> >> deleted. > >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at > >> >> or > >> >> is > >> >> there another way to do this in future. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first stupidity. Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No explanation or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get it mailed to me. Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless loop. Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their suggestions with no luck. And these idiots pretend to be programmers? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 or > 4 > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... > > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I > have seen > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are 32kb/48kb/64kb > > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is exactly > what he > wants > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a >> machine >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that when >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get deleted. >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT >> files, >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, >> forever? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, >> > cookies, >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> > >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also >> >> deleted >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when >> >> deleting >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> > Sageman, >> >> > >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the >> >> > Index.dat >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> > >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> > >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> > >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> > >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> > >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will >> >> > contain all >> >> > URL's >> >> > >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat >> >> > files, >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> > >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> > >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web >> >> >> sites >> >> >> in >> >> >> his >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked >> >> >> at >> >> >> or >> >> >> is >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Ghostrider Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Gary S. Terhune wrote: > OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it > insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first stupidity. > > Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No explanation > or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get it > mailed to me. > > Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless loop. > Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their > suggestions with no luck. > > And these idiots pretend to be programmers? > For awhile, I thought I was going crazy. Both of us could not have been experiencing the same thing unless it was really happening.
Guest Peter Foldes Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Newbie Coder I think you are wrong about the Index.dat files. They do not retain any info as you say. Mine is 32kb/40kb/46kb and I doubt that it has grown . This is a W2K3 Sever Production machine and I access the Net quite heavily and have for the last 4 yrs with this OS. If it was as you claim\say my index.dat files should be in the GB size by now. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 or 4 > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... > > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I have seen > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are 32kb/48kb/64kb > > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is exactly what he > wants > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a machine >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that when >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get deleted. >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT files, >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, >> forever? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, >> > cookies, >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> > >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also deleted >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when deleting >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> > Sageman, >> >> > >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the >> >> > Index.dat >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> > >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> > >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> > >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> > >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> > >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will >> >> > contain all >> >> > URL's >> >> > >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat >> >> > files, >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> > >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> > >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites >> >> >> in >> >> >> his >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at >> >> >> or >> >> >> is >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Peter, I delete my Index.dat files regularly on my Windows 2000 Pro development machine & Windows 2003 Enterprise Server -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OuHqZ3R4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Newbie Coder I think you are wrong about the Index.dat files. They do not retain any info as you say. Mine is 32kb/40kb/46kb and I doubt that it has grown . This is a W2K3 Sever Production machine and I access the Net quite heavily and have for the last 4 yrs with this OS. If it was as you claim\say my index.dat files should be in the GB size by now. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 or 4 > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... > > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I have seen > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are 32kb/48kb/64kb > > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is exactly what he > wants > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a machine >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that when >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get deleted. >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT files, >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, >> forever? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, >> > cookies, >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> > >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also deleted >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when deleting >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> > Sageman, >> >> > >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the >> >> > Index.dat >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> > >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> > >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> > >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> > >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> > >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will >> >> > contain all >> >> > URL's >> >> > >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat >> >> > files, >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> > >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> > >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites >> >> >> in >> >> >> his >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at >> >> >> or >> >> >> is >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Gary, I have neve had a problem Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also change your password to whatever you want Never, ever have I had a problem with that site Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login & it takes you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new password & confirm then click the save button at the base of the page Simple -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it > insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first stupidity. > > Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No explanation > or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get it > mailed to me. > > Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless loop. > Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their > suggestions with no luck. > > And these idiots pretend to be programmers? > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Gary, > > > > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 or > > 4 > > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... > > > > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I > > have seen > > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are 32kb/48kb/64kb > > > > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is exactly > > what he > > wants > > > > -- > > Newbie Coder > > (It's just a name) > > > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a > >> machine > >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that when > >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get deleted. > >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT > >> files, > >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, > >> forever? > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> > Gary, > >> > > >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, > >> > cookies, > >> > cache has been deleted - believe me > >> > > >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Newbie Coder > >> > (It's just a name) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also > >> >> deleted > >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when > >> >> deleting > >> >> these caches. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> > >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> >> > Sageman, > >> >> > > >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read the > >> >> > Index.dat > >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on > >> >> > > >> >> > Here's the free download: > >> >> > > >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp > >> >> > > >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! > >> >> > > >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account > >> >> > > >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which will > >> >> > contain all > >> >> > URL's > >> >> > > >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat > >> >> > files, > >> >> > seleted or none on next boot > >> >> > > >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too > >> >> > > >> >> > Hope this helps, > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Newbie Coder > >> >> > (It's just a name) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web > >> >> >> sites > >> >> >> in > >> >> >> his > >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been > >> >> >> deleted. > >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked > >> >> >> at > >> >> >> or > >> >> >> is > >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Paul Randall Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it "Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message news:uG6uftR4HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Gary S. Terhune wrote: > >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >> stupidity. >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >> explanation or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing >> to get it mailed to me. >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless >> loop. Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all >> their suggestions with no luck. >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >> > > For awhile, I thought I was going crazy. Both of us could not have been > experiencing the same thing unless it was really happening. For some reason I couldn't make myself play the login game. I saw the file name in the link and Googled for it. Found it here: http://lt.dorost.cz/public/scripts/?C=S;O=A Comments in the script say: ....This program scans all History index files only (not cookies or temporary internet files) looking for any protocol :// entries .... A quick peek at the code indicates that something is stored in an array for each entry found in the scan above. This entry is then used to search the index.dat files which I assume then is used to get the info it puts out in the HTML output file. I won't be running this script until I verify it will do no harm on one of my removable tray WXP systems. -Paul Randall
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Let us know-- IF you actually do the testing, <g>. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message news:OoqRWFT4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message > news:uG6uftR4HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> >>> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it >>> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >>> stupidity. >>> >>> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >>> explanation or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password >>> thing to get it mailed to me. >>> >>> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless >>> loop. Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all >>> their suggestions with no luck. >>> >>> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >>> >> >> For awhile, I thought I was going crazy. Both of us could not have been >> experiencing the same thing unless it was really happening. > > For some reason I couldn't make myself play the login game. I saw the > file name in the link and Googled for it. Found it here: > http://lt.dorost.cz/public/scripts/?C=S;O=A > > Comments in the script say: > ...This program scans all History index files only (not cookies or > temporary internet files) looking for any protocol :// entries .... > > A quick peek at the code indicates that something is stored in an array > for each entry found in the scan above. This entry is then used to search > the index.dat files which I assume then is used to get the info it puts > out in the HTML output file. > > I won't be running this script until I verify it will do no harm on one of > my removable tray WXP systems. > > -Paul Randall > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go to your email to find the password before you can continue using the site. 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login page, download page, login page, ad infinitum. Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly maintained by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything from there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to take your word for it that it's a safe script to run. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > I have neve had a problem > > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also change > your > password to whatever you want > > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site > > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login & it > takes > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer > > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new > password & > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page > > Simple > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >> stupidity. >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >> explanation >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get it >> mailed to me. >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless >> loop. >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their >> suggestions with no luck. >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 >> > or >> > 4 >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... >> > >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I >> > have seen >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb >> > >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is >> > exactly >> > what he >> > wants >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a >> >> machine >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that >> >> when >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get >> >> deleted. >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT >> >> files, >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, >> >> forever? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> > Gary, >> >> > >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the >> >> > History, >> >> > cookies, >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> >> > >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also >> >> >> deleted >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when >> >> >> deleting >> >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > Sageman, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> >> > >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which >> >> >> > will >> >> >> > contain all >> >> >> > URL's >> >> >> > >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> > files, >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web >> >> >> >> sites >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had >> >> >> >> looked >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Why? Because you *think* they retain some kind of permanent history? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:uXwbs4S4HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Peter, > > I delete my Index.dat files regularly on my Windows 2000 Pro development > machine > & Windows 2003 Enterprise Server > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OuHqZ3R4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Newbie Coder > > I think you are wrong about the Index.dat files. They do not retain any > info as > you say. Mine is 32kb/40kb/46kb and I doubt that it has grown . This is a > W2K3 > Sever Production machine and I access the Net quite heavily and have for > the > last 4 yrs with this OS. If it was as you claim\say my index.dat files > should be > in the GB size by now. > > -- > Peter > > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. > > "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Gary, >> >> The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 or >> 4 >> years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... >> >> I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I >> have > seen >> some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are 32kb/48kb/64kb >> >> Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is exactly >> what > he >> wants >> >> -- >> Newbie Coder >> (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a >>> machine >>> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that >>> when >>> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get >>> deleted. >>> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT >>> files, >>> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, >>> forever? >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >>> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> > Gary, >>> > >>> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the History, >>> > cookies, >>> > cache has been deleted - believe me >>> > >>> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Newbie Coder >>> > (It's just a name) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >>> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also >>> >> deleted >>> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when >>> >> deleting >>> >> these caches. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Gary S. Terhune >>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> >> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >> >>> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> >> > Sageman, >>> >> > >>> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read >>> >> > the >>> >> > Index.dat >>> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >>> >> > >>> >> > Here's the free download: >>> >> > >>> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >>> >> > >>> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >>> >> > >>> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >>> >> > >>> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which >>> >> > will >>> >> > contain all >>> >> > URL's >>> >> > >>> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all Index.dat >>> >> > files, >>> >> > seleted or none on next boot >>> >> > >>> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >>> >> > >>> >> > Hope this helps, >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Newbie Coder >>> >> > (It's just a name) >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >>> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web >>> >> >> sites >>> >> >> in >>> >> >> his >>> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been >>> >> >> deleted. >>> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had >>> >> >> looked at >>> >> >> or >>> >> >> is >>> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Gary, I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very useful. That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming language It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others like it. You're in the minority here -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go to > your email to find the password before you can continue using the site. > > 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login page, > download page, login page, ad infinitum. > > Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly maintained > by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything from > there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to take > your word for it that it's a safe script to run. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > Gary, > > > > I have neve had a problem > > > > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also change > > your > > password to whatever you want > > > > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site > > > > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login & it > > takes > > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer > > > > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new > > password & > > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page > > > > Simple > > > > -- > > Newbie Coder > > (It's just a name) > > > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it > >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first > >> stupidity. > >> > >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No > >> explanation > >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get it > >> mailed to me. > >> > >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless > >> loop. > >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their > >> suggestions with no luck. > >> > >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> > Gary, > >> > > >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the 3 > >> > or > >> > 4 > >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... > >> > > >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & I > >> > have seen > >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are > >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb > >> > > >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is > >> > exactly > >> > what he > >> > wants > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Newbie Coder > >> > (It's just a name) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a > >> >> machine > >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact that > >> >> when > >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get > >> >> deleted. > >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT > >> >> files, > >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and grow, > >> >> forever? > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> > >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> > Gary, > >> >> > > >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the > >> >> > History, > >> >> > cookies, > >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me > >> >> > > >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Newbie Coder > >> >> > (It's just a name) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also > >> >> >> deleted > >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when > >> >> >> deleting > >> >> >> these caches. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> > Sageman, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can read > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > Index.dat > >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Here's the free download: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm which > >> >> >> > will > >> >> >> > contain all > >> >> >> > URL's > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all > >> >> >> > Index.dat > >> >> >> > files, > >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Hope this helps, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Newbie Coder > >> >> >> > (It's just a name) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web > >> >> >> >> sites > >> >> >> >> in > >> >> >> >> his > >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has > >> >> >> >> been > >> >> >> >> deleted. > >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had > >> >> >> >> looked > >> >> >> >> at > >> >> >> >> or > >> >> >> >> is > >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Paul Randall Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it The software runs fine on my WXP-SP2. It does create some potentially dangerous .EXE files and runs them; created by writing a series of hex values like "4D,5A,90,00,03,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,FF" to a file. My virus scanner doesn't have a problem with it. The program gives you the option to delete history stuff -- I hit cancel rather than try out that feature. Apparently I haven't deleted my history for a while -- It found history going back to October 2006. It is an interesting script, commented well. -Paul Randall "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:Obfn9JT4HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Let us know-- IF you actually do the testing, <g>. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message > news:OoqRWFT4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message >> news:uG6uftR4HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >>> >>>> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it >>>> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >>>> stupidity. >>>> >>>> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >>>> explanation or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password >>>> thing to get it mailed to me. >>>> >>>> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless >>>> loop. Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all >>>> their suggestions with no luck. >>>> >>>> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >>>> >>> >>> For awhile, I thought I was going crazy. Both of us could not have been >>> experiencing the same thing unless it was really happening. >> >> For some reason I couldn't make myself play the login game. I saw the >> file name in the link and Googled for it. Found it here: >> http://lt.dorost.cz/public/scripts/?C=S;O=A >> >> Comments in the script say: >> ...This program scans all History index files only (not cookies or >> temporary internet files) looking for any protocol :// entries .... >> >> A quick peek at the code indicates that something is stored in an array >> for each entry found in the scan above. This entry is then used to >> search the index.dat files which I assume then is used to get the info it >> puts out in the HTML output file. >> >> I won't be running this script until I verify it will do no harm on one >> of my removable tray WXP systems. >> >> -Paul Randall >> >> > >
Guest David Webb Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it That sounds more complicated than it has to be. Here's a link to a freeware (and safe) utility that enables one to read the contents of all index.dat files in the system and delete any, as an option: See inside index.dat files http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=88 "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message news:uSGD8qa4HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > The software runs fine on my WXP-SP2. It does create some potentially > dangerous .EXE files and runs them; created by writing a series of hex > values like "4D,5A,90,00,03,00,00,00,04,00,00,00,FF" to a file. My virus > scanner doesn't have a problem with it. The program gives you the option to > delete history stuff -- I hit cancel rather than try out that feature. > > Apparently I haven't deleted my history for a while -- It found history > going back to October 2006. > > It is an interesting script, commented well. > > -Paul Randall > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:Obfn9JT4HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Let us know-- IF you actually do the testing, <g>. > > > > -- > > Gary S. Terhune > > MS-MVP Shell/User > > http://www.grystmill.com > > > > "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message > > news:OoqRWFT4HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> > >> "Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message > >> news:uG6uftR4HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>> > >>> Gary S. Terhune wrote: > >>> > >>>> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it > >>>> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first > >>>> stupidity. > >>>> > >>>> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No > >>>> explanation or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password > >>>> thing to get it mailed to me. > >>>> > >>>> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless > >>>> loop. Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all > >>>> their suggestions with no luck. > >>>> > >>>> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? > >>>> > >>> > >>> For awhile, I thought I was going crazy. Both of us could not have been > >>> experiencing the same thing unless it was really happening. > >> > >> For some reason I couldn't make myself play the login game. I saw the > >> file name in the link and Googled for it. Found it here: > >> http://lt.dorost.cz/public/scripts/?C=S;O=A > >> > >> Comments in the script say: > >> ...This program scans all History index files only (not cookies or > >> temporary internet files) looking for any protocol :// entries .... > >> > >> A quick peek at the code indicates that something is stored in an array > >> for each entry found in the scan above. This entry is then used to > >> search the index.dat files which I assume then is used to get the info it > >> puts out in the HTML output file. > >> > >> I won't be running this script until I verify it will do no harm on one > >> of my removable tray WXP systems. > >> > >> -Paul Randall > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Whatever. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:udH8byY4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very > useful. > That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming > language > > It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others like > it. > You're in the minority here > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go to >> your email to find the password before you can continue using the site. >> >> 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login page, >> download page, login page, ad infinitum. >> >> Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly >> maintained >> by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything >> from >> there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to >> take >> your word for it that it's a safe script to run. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > I have neve had a problem >> > >> > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also >> > change >> > your >> > password to whatever you want >> > >> > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site >> > >> > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login & >> > it >> > takes >> > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer >> > >> > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new >> > password & >> > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page >> > >> > Simple >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it >> >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >> >> stupidity. >> >> >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >> >> explanation >> >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get >> >> it >> >> mailed to me. >> >> >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless >> >> loop. >> >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their >> >> suggestions with no luck. >> >> >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> > Gary, >> >> > >> >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the >> >> > 3 >> >> > or >> >> > 4 >> >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... >> >> > >> >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & >> >> > I >> >> > have seen >> >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are >> >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb >> >> > >> >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is >> >> > exactly >> >> > what he >> >> > wants >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a >> >> >> machine >> >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact >> >> >> that >> >> >> when >> >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT >> >> >> files, >> >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and >> >> >> grow, >> >> >> forever? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > Gary, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the >> >> >> > History, >> >> >> > cookies, >> >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also >> >> >> >> deleted >> >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when >> >> >> >> deleting >> >> >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> > Sageman, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can >> >> >> >> > read >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm >> >> >> >> > which >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > contain all >> >> >> >> > URL's >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> > files, >> >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate >> >> >> >> >> web >> >> >> >> >> sites >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has >> >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had >> >> >> >> >> looked >> >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Update. First, even if I was a programmer, that doesn't mean the site isn't poorly constructed. For instance, *requiring* registration to simply download some code. Only purpose I can see for that is either so they can SPAM me or because it inflates their "membership". If I don't want all the bells and whistles, I shouldn't need to "register". Second, when a simple and common error occurs, like the one that stumped me for a bit -- cookies were blocked -- one shouldn't have to find and wade through a FAQ to discover that that might be the problem. The blocking of cookies should prompt the user to unblock them, it's that simple. Plenty of other sites do so, why is it so hard for a gang of programmers? Or is it a case of deciding that almost all visitors are programmers and should be able to figure this stuff out on their own? No, I'll go with the other suggestion, Index.Dat Spy. But it makes no difference on this machine. I have neither an index.dat for TIFs nor one for History. Don't know why that is (in the case of History), but the reason the index.dat is missing is that I moved the TIF store to a different location, and that apparently turns TIF into a much simpler structure (no confusing phantom folders, just a single folder full of files.) Yet both systems, TIF and History, work just fine. The index.dat file for Cookies is intact and properly functioning. Anyway, I can't test at this moment, but I *still* don't believe that History's index.dat file, or that for TIF, maintains any permanent record. Not when you properly delete them using IE Options. I *know*, based upon recent experimentation, that it's not the case for the Cookies index.dat file. Unless you manually delete the cookie, if you delete it properly, the entry is removed from the index.dat file. Frankly, based upon some of your past "advice", I'm guessing that some context is missing from you assertions. That you are, for instance, not deleting History using the proper tools that are provided. Sure, if the user deletes the files manually from the History folder, the index.dat file will not reflect that change. That's why we tell people to use the proper controls for this kind of thing. But now I'm only guessing. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:udH8byY4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very > useful. > That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming > language > > It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others like > it. > You're in the minority here > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go to >> your email to find the password before you can continue using the site. >> >> 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login page, >> download page, login page, ad infinitum. >> >> Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly >> maintained >> by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything >> from >> there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to >> take >> your word for it that it's a safe script to run. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > I have neve had a problem >> > >> > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also >> > change >> > your >> > password to whatever you want >> > >> > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site >> > >> > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login & >> > it >> > takes >> > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer >> > >> > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new >> > password & >> > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page >> > >> > Simple >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it >> >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >> >> stupidity. >> >> >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >> >> explanation >> >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get >> >> it >> >> mailed to me. >> >> >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless >> >> loop. >> >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their >> >> suggestions with no luck. >> >> >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> > Gary, >> >> > >> >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the >> >> > 3 >> >> > or >> >> > 4 >> >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... >> >> > >> >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & >> >> > I >> >> > have seen >> >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are >> >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb >> >> > >> >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is >> >> > exactly >> >> > what he >> >> > wants >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a >> >> >> machine >> >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact >> >> >> that >> >> >> when >> >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT >> >> >> files, >> >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and >> >> >> grow, >> >> >> forever? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > Gary, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the >> >> >> > History, >> >> >> > cookies, >> >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also >> >> >> >> deleted >> >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when >> >> >> >> deleting >> >> >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> > Sageman, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can >> >> >> >> > read >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm >> >> >> >> > which >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > contain all >> >> >> >> > URL's >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> > files, >> >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate >> >> >> >> >> web >> >> >> >> >> sites >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has >> >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had >> >> >> >> >> looked >> >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Newbie Coder Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Gary, You made me laugh A person who replies to others in this newsgroup trying to help was stumped by cookies being blocked & couldn't even fill in a simple registration page :)) What does that tell you? If's fine that you go with the other version but remember that the Index.dat file can be read/deleted simply. No-one said you have to use the IE Spy, but its exactly what the OP should use to get info about his colleague. Plus, it has a network version. Does the other download have that option too? Hope this posts as twice it stopped me yesterday -- Newbie Coder (It's just a name) "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:etGc1Th4HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Update. First, even if I was a programmer, that doesn't mean the site isn't > poorly constructed. For instance, *requiring* registration to simply > download some code. Only purpose I can see for that is either so they can > SPAM me or because it inflates their "membership". If I don't want all the > bells and whistles, I shouldn't need to "register". Second, when a simple > and common error occurs, like the one that stumped me for a bit -- cookies > were blocked -- one shouldn't have to find and wade through a FAQ to > discover that that might be the problem. The blocking of cookies should > prompt the user to unblock them, it's that simple. Plenty of other sites do > so, why is it so hard for a gang of programmers? Or is it a case of deciding > that almost all visitors are programmers and should be able to figure this > stuff out on their own? No, I'll go with the other suggestion, Index.Dat > Spy. > > But it makes no difference on this machine. I have neither an index.dat for > TIFs nor one for History. Don't know why that is (in the case of History), > but the reason the index.dat is missing is that I moved the TIF store to a > different location, and that apparently turns TIF into a much simpler > structure (no confusing phantom folders, just a single folder full of > files.) Yet both systems, TIF and History, work just fine. The index.dat > file for Cookies is intact and properly functioning. > > Anyway, I can't test at this moment, but I *still* don't believe that > History's index.dat file, or that for TIF, maintains any permanent record. > Not when you properly delete them using IE Options. I *know*, based upon > recent experimentation, that it's not the case for the Cookies index.dat > file. Unless you manually delete the cookie, if you delete it properly, the > entry is removed from the index.dat file. > > Frankly, based upon some of your past "advice", I'm guessing that some > context is missing from you assertions. That you are, for instance, not > deleting History using the proper tools that are provided. Sure, if the user > deletes the files manually from the History folder, the index.dat file will > not reflect that change. That's why we tell people to use the proper > controls for this kind of thing. > > But now I'm only guessing. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > news:udH8byY4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Gary, > > > > I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very > > useful. > > That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming > > language > > > > It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others like > > it. > > You're in the minority here > > > > -- > > Newbie Coder > > (It's just a name) > > > > > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go to > >> your email to find the password before you can continue using the site. > >> > >> 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login page, > >> download page, login page, ad infinitum. > >> > >> Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly > >> maintained > >> by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything > >> from > >> there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to > >> take > >> your word for it that it's a safe script to run. > >> > >> -- > >> Gary S. Terhune > >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> > >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> > Gary, > >> > > >> > I have neve had a problem > >> > > >> > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also > >> > change > >> > your > >> > password to whatever you want > >> > > >> > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site > >> > > >> > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login & > >> > it > >> > takes > >> > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer > >> > > >> > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new > >> > password & > >> > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page > >> > > >> > Simple > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Newbie Coder > >> > (It's just a name) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, it > >> >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first > >> >> stupidity. > >> >> > >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No > >> >> explanation > >> >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to get > >> >> it > >> >> mailed to me. > >> >> > >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an endless > >> >> loop. > >> >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all their > >> >> suggestions with no luck. > >> >> > >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> > >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> >> > Gary, > >> >> > > >> >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in the > >> >> > 3 > >> >> > or > >> >> > 4 > >> >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing code... > >> >> > > >> >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat files & > >> >> > I > >> >> > have seen > >> >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are > >> >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb > >> >> > > >> >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is > >> >> > exactly > >> >> > what he > >> >> > wants > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Newbie Coder > >> >> > (It's just a name) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not on a > >> >> >> machine > >> >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> when > >> >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get > >> >> >> deleted. > >> >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History DAT > >> >> >> files, > >> >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and > >> >> >> grow, > >> >> >> forever? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> > Gary, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the > >> >> >> > History, > >> >> >> > cookies, > >> >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > Newbie Coder > >> >> >> > (It's just a name) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > >> >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he also > >> >> >> >> deleted > >> >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped when > >> >> >> >> deleting > >> >> >> >> these caches. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune > >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User > >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> >> > Sageman, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can > >> >> >> >> > read > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> > Index.dat > >> >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Here's the free download: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm > >> >> >> >> > which > >> >> >> >> > will > >> >> >> >> > contain all > >> >> >> >> > URL's > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all > >> >> >> >> > Index.dat > >> >> >> >> > files, > >> >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps, > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder > >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate > >> >> >> >> >> web > >> >> >> >> >> sites > >> >> >> >> >> in > >> >> >> >> >> his > >> >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has > >> >> >> >> >> been > >> >> >> >> >> deleted. > >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had > >> >> >> >> >> looked > >> >> >> >> >> at > >> >> >> >> >> or > >> >> >> >> >> is > >> >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it I wasn't the least bit "stumped", just irritated beyond caring. I had no problem filling in the Registration page, and now that I've fixed the cookie problem, I can also find the page that lets me change my own info. My having problems with the site is a direct result of it's crappy implementation and lack of foresight. They can mention the problem in a distant FAQ, but can't be bothered to create a prompt when a user can't even log in without setting a cookie. It's NOT user-friendly. I don't know if Index Dat Spy is able to work over a network and have no way of testing right now. I'm guessing that it will work just fine, providing you can access the files over the network. However, it DOES let you access all index.dat files, not just the one for Cookies. You're right, I'm no programmer (well, I dabble in scripts.) What I generally do when exploring Windows or the internet, is to see things from an average user's point of view. By doing so, I learn about all the pitfalls. Note that YOU weren't able to explain the endless loop ( or were but couldn't be bothered), whereas now I can do so and will remember it, whereas your tendency is to leave out important details in your own responses, I suspect in a futile attempt to seem superior. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:uyX1jEm4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > You made me laugh > > A person who replies to others in this newsgroup trying to help was > stumped by > cookies being blocked & couldn't even fill in a simple registration page > :)) > What does that tell you? > > If's fine that you go with the other version but remember that the > Index.dat > file can be read/deleted simply. No-one said you have to use the IE Spy, > but its > exactly what the OP should use to get info about his colleague. Plus, it > has a > network version. Does the other download have that option too? > > Hope this posts as twice it stopped me yesterday > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:etGc1Th4HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Update. First, even if I was a programmer, that doesn't mean the site >> isn't >> poorly constructed. For instance, *requiring* registration to simply >> download some code. Only purpose I can see for that is either so they can >> SPAM me or because it inflates their "membership". If I don't want all >> the >> bells and whistles, I shouldn't need to "register". Second, when a simple >> and common error occurs, like the one that stumped me for a bit -- >> cookies >> were blocked -- one shouldn't have to find and wade through a FAQ to >> discover that that might be the problem. The blocking of cookies should >> prompt the user to unblock them, it's that simple. Plenty of other sites >> do >> so, why is it so hard for a gang of programmers? Or is it a case of >> deciding >> that almost all visitors are programmers and should be able to figure >> this >> stuff out on their own? No, I'll go with the other suggestion, Index.Dat >> Spy. >> >> But it makes no difference on this machine. I have neither an index.dat >> for >> TIFs nor one for History. Don't know why that is (in the case of >> History), >> but the reason the index.dat is missing is that I moved the TIF store to >> a >> different location, and that apparently turns TIF into a much simpler >> structure (no confusing phantom folders, just a single folder full of >> files.) Yet both systems, TIF and History, work just fine. The index.dat >> file for Cookies is intact and properly functioning. >> >> Anyway, I can't test at this moment, but I *still* don't believe that >> History's index.dat file, or that for TIF, maintains any permanent >> record. >> Not when you properly delete them using IE Options. I *know*, based upon >> recent experimentation, that it's not the case for the Cookies index.dat >> file. Unless you manually delete the cookie, if you delete it properly, >> the >> entry is removed from the index.dat file. >> >> Frankly, based upon some of your past "advice", I'm guessing that some >> context is missing from you assertions. That you are, for instance, not >> deleting History using the proper tools that are provided. Sure, if the >> user >> deletes the files manually from the History folder, the index.dat file >> will >> not reflect that change. That's why we tell people to use the proper >> controls for this kind of thing. >> >> But now I'm only guessing. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:udH8byY4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very >> > useful. >> > That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming >> > language >> > >> > It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others >> > like >> > it. >> > You're in the minority here >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go >> >> to >> >> your email to find the password before you can continue using the >> >> site. >> >> >> >> 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login >> >> page, >> >> download page, login page, ad infinitum. >> >> >> >> Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly >> >> maintained >> >> by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything >> >> from >> >> there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to >> >> take >> >> your word for it that it's a safe script to run. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> > Gary, >> >> > >> >> > I have neve had a problem >> >> > >> >> > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also >> >> > change >> >> > your >> >> > password to whatever you want >> >> > >> >> > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site >> >> > >> >> > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login >> >> > & >> >> > it >> >> > takes >> >> > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer >> >> > >> >> > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new >> >> > password & >> >> > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page >> >> > >> >> > Simple >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, >> >> >> it >> >> >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >> >> >> stupidity. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >> >> >> explanation >> >> >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to >> >> >> get >> >> >> it >> >> >> mailed to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an >> >> >> endless >> >> >> loop. >> >> >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all >> >> >> their >> >> >> suggestions with no luck. >> >> >> >> >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > Gary, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > 3 >> >> >> > or >> >> >> > 4 >> >> >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing >> >> >> > code... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat >> >> >> > files & >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > have seen >> >> >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are >> >> >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is >> >> >> > exactly >> >> >> > what he >> >> >> > wants >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not >> >> >> >> on a >> >> >> >> machine >> >> >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> when >> >> >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History >> >> >> >> DAT >> >> >> >> files, >> >> >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and >> >> >> >> grow, >> >> >> >> forever? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> > Gary, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the >> >> >> >> > History, >> >> >> >> > cookies, >> >> >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he >> >> >> >> >> also >> >> >> >> >> deleted >> >> >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped >> >> >> >> >> when >> >> >> >> >> deleting >> >> >> >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> >> > Sageman, >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can >> >> >> >> >> > read >> >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm >> >> >> >> >> > which >> >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> >> > contain all >> >> >> >> >> > URL's >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all >> >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> >> > files, >> >> >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> >> > message >> >> >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing >> >> >> >> >> >> inappropriate >> >> >> >> >> >> web >> >> >> >> >> >> sites >> >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) >> >> >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he >> >> >> >> >> >> had >> >> >> >> >> >> looked >> >> >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
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