Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Note that I am big enough to admit my mistakes, whereas every time I've seen you pulled up, you just shut up and slink away. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message news:uyX1jEm4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Gary, > > You made me laugh > > A person who replies to others in this newsgroup trying to help was > stumped by > cookies being blocked & couldn't even fill in a simple registration page > :)) > What does that tell you? > > If's fine that you go with the other version but remember that the > Index.dat > file can be read/deleted simply. No-one said you have to use the IE Spy, > but its > exactly what the OP should use to get info about his colleague. Plus, it > has a > network version. Does the other download have that option too? > > Hope this posts as twice it stopped me yesterday > > -- > Newbie Coder > (It's just a name) > > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:etGc1Th4HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Update. First, even if I was a programmer, that doesn't mean the site >> isn't >> poorly constructed. For instance, *requiring* registration to simply >> download some code. Only purpose I can see for that is either so they can >> SPAM me or because it inflates their "membership". If I don't want all >> the >> bells and whistles, I shouldn't need to "register". Second, when a simple >> and common error occurs, like the one that stumped me for a bit -- >> cookies >> were blocked -- one shouldn't have to find and wade through a FAQ to >> discover that that might be the problem. The blocking of cookies should >> prompt the user to unblock them, it's that simple. Plenty of other sites >> do >> so, why is it so hard for a gang of programmers? Or is it a case of >> deciding >> that almost all visitors are programmers and should be able to figure >> this >> stuff out on their own? No, I'll go with the other suggestion, Index.Dat >> Spy. >> >> But it makes no difference on this machine. I have neither an index.dat >> for >> TIFs nor one for History. Don't know why that is (in the case of >> History), >> but the reason the index.dat is missing is that I moved the TIF store to >> a >> different location, and that apparently turns TIF into a much simpler >> structure (no confusing phantom folders, just a single folder full of >> files.) Yet both systems, TIF and History, work just fine. The index.dat >> file for Cookies is intact and properly functioning. >> >> Anyway, I can't test at this moment, but I *still* don't believe that >> History's index.dat file, or that for TIF, maintains any permanent >> record. >> Not when you properly delete them using IE Options. I *know*, based upon >> recent experimentation, that it's not the case for the Cookies index.dat >> file. Unless you manually delete the cookie, if you delete it properly, >> the >> entry is removed from the index.dat file. >> >> Frankly, based upon some of your past "advice", I'm guessing that some >> context is missing from you assertions. That you are, for instance, not >> deleting History using the proper tools that are provided. Sure, if the >> user >> deletes the files manually from the History folder, the index.dat file >> will >> not reflect that change. That's why we tell people to use the proper >> controls for this kind of thing. >> >> But now I'm only guessing. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> news:udH8byY4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > Gary, >> > >> > I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very >> > useful. >> > That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming >> > language >> > >> > It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others >> > like >> > it. >> > You're in the minority here >> > >> > -- >> > Newbie Coder >> > (It's just a name) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go >> >> to >> >> your email to find the password before you can continue using the >> >> site. >> >> >> >> 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login >> >> page, >> >> download page, login page, ad infinitum. >> >> >> >> Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly >> >> maintained >> >> by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything >> >> from >> >> there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to >> >> take >> >> your word for it that it's a safe script to run. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> > Gary, >> >> > >> >> > I have neve had a problem >> >> > >> >> > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also >> >> > change >> >> > your >> >> > password to whatever you want >> >> > >> >> > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site >> >> > >> >> > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login >> >> > & >> >> > it >> >> > takes >> >> > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer >> >> > >> >> > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new >> >> > password & >> >> > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page >> >> > >> >> > Simple >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First, >> >> >> it >> >> >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first >> >> >> stupidity. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No >> >> >> explanation >> >> >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to >> >> >> get >> >> >> it >> >> >> mailed to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an >> >> >> endless >> >> >> loop. >> >> >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all >> >> >> their >> >> >> suggestions with no luck. >> >> >> >> >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >> > Gary, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > 3 >> >> >> > or >> >> >> > 4 >> >> >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing >> >> >> > code... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat >> >> >> > files & >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > have seen >> >> >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are >> >> >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is >> >> >> > exactly >> >> >> > what he >> >> >> > wants >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not >> >> >> >> on a >> >> >> >> machine >> >> >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> when >> >> >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History >> >> >> >> DAT >> >> >> >> files, >> >> >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and >> >> >> >> grow, >> >> >> >> forever? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> > Gary, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the >> >> >> >> > History, >> >> >> >> > cookies, >> >> >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> >> >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he >> >> >> >> >> also >> >> >> >> >> deleted >> >> >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped >> >> >> >> >> when >> >> >> >> >> deleting >> >> >> >> >> these caches. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune >> >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> >> > Sageman, >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can >> >> >> >> >> > read >> >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Here's the free download: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm >> >> >> >> >> > which >> >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> >> > contain all >> >> >> >> >> > URL's >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all >> >> >> >> >> > Index.dat >> >> >> >> >> > files, >> >> >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps, >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder >> >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> >> > message >> >> >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing >> >> >> >> >> >> inappropriate >> >> >> >> >> >> web >> >> >> >> >> >> sites >> >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) >> >> >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> >> >> been >> >> >> >> >> >> deleted. >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he >> >> >> >> >> >> had >> >> >> >> >> >> looked >> >> >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Kelly Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: IE History - Can I recover it Hi, In addition..... Merge line 101: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm -- All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP) Taskbar Repair Tool Plus! http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com... > We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in > his > lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been > deleted. > Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or > is > there another way to do this in future. > > Thanks in advance for any help or advice. >
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