IE History - Can I recover it

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: IE History - Can I recover it

 

Note that I am big enough to admit my mistakes, whereas every time I've seen

you pulled up, you just shut up and slink away.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message

news:uyX1jEm4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Gary,

>

> You made me laugh

>

> A person who replies to others in this newsgroup trying to help was

> stumped by

> cookies being blocked & couldn't even fill in a simple registration page

> :))

> What does that tell you?

>

> If's fine that you go with the other version but remember that the

> Index.dat

> file can be read/deleted simply. No-one said you have to use the IE Spy,

> but its

> exactly what the OP should use to get info about his colleague. Plus, it

> has a

> network version. Does the other download have that option too?

>

> Hope this posts as twice it stopped me yesterday

>

> --

> Newbie Coder

> (It's just a name)

>

>

>

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:etGc1Th4HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Update. First, even if I was a programmer, that doesn't mean the site

>> isn't

>> poorly constructed. For instance, *requiring* registration to simply

>> download some code. Only purpose I can see for that is either so they can

>> SPAM me or because it inflates their "membership". If I don't want all

>> the

>> bells and whistles, I shouldn't need to "register". Second, when a simple

>> and common error occurs, like the one that stumped me for a bit --

>> cookies

>> were blocked -- one shouldn't have to find and wade through a FAQ to

>> discover that that might be the problem. The blocking of cookies should

>> prompt the user to unblock them, it's that simple. Plenty of other sites

>> do

>> so, why is it so hard for a gang of programmers? Or is it a case of

>> deciding

>> that almost all visitors are programmers and should be able to figure

>> this

>> stuff out on their own? No, I'll go with the other suggestion, Index.Dat

>> Spy.

>>

>> But it makes no difference on this machine. I have neither an index.dat

>> for

>> TIFs nor one for History. Don't know why that is (in the case of

>> History),

>> but the reason the index.dat is missing is that I moved the TIF store to

>> a

>> different location, and that apparently turns TIF into a much simpler

>> structure (no confusing phantom folders, just a single folder full of

>> files.) Yet both systems, TIF and History, work just fine. The index.dat

>> file for Cookies is intact and properly functioning.

>>

>> Anyway, I can't test at this moment, but I *still* don't believe that

>> History's index.dat file, or that for TIF, maintains any permanent

>> record.

>> Not when you properly delete them using IE Options. I *know*, based upon

>> recent experimentation, that it's not the case for the Cookies index.dat

>> file. Unless you manually delete the cookie, if you delete it properly,

>> the

>> entry is removed from the index.dat file.

>>

>> Frankly, based upon some of your past "advice", I'm guessing that some

>> context is missing from you assertions. That you are, for instance, not

>> deleting History using the proper tools that are provided. Sure, if the

>> user

>> deletes the files manually from the History folder, the index.dat file

>> will

>> not reflect that change. That's why we tell people to use the proper

>> controls for this kind of thing.

>>

>> But now I'm only guessing.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message

>> news:udH8byY4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > Gary,

>> >

>> > I see you are no programmer Gary otherwise you would find the site very

>> > useful.

>> > That's why your MVP is Shell like most people's & not a programming

>> > language

>> >

>> > It's your opinion only about the site, but I like millions of others

>> > like

>> > it.

>> > You're in the minority here

>> >

>> > --

>> > Newbie Coder

>> > (It's just a name)

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> > news:%23lEFsMT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> 1. It's stupid to have an account setup that requires you to first go

>> >> to

>> >> your email to find the password before you can continue using the

>> >> site.

>> >>

>> >> 2. As I said, it put me into a permanent loop. Download page, login

>> >> page,

>> >> download page, login page, ad infinitum.

>> >>

>> >> Even if it worked, it's a crappy site, especially one supposedly

>> >> maintained

>> >> by programmers. Really lousy. I'm certainly not going to run anything

>> >> from

>> >> there, and I have to say that I don't have enough confidence in you to

>> >> take

>> >> your word for it that it's a safe script to run.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >>

>> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:u34rd9S4HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> > Gary,

>> >> >

>> >> > I have neve had a problem

>> >> >

>> >> > Yes, after you create the accout you're e-mailed but you can also

>> >> > change

>> >> > your

>> >> > password to whatever you want

>> >> >

>> >> > Never, ever have I had a problem with that site

>> >> >

>> >> > Click the download link & it will take you to the login page. Login

>> >> > &

>> >> > it

>> >> > takes

>> >> > you back to the download. Click it again & save to your computer

>> >> >

>> >> > To change your password just click My Settings (top-right), type new

>> >> > password &

>> >> > confirm then click the save button at the base of the page

>> >> >

>> >> > Simple

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > Newbie Coder

>> >> > (It's just a name)

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> > news:eGJFTER4HHA.5740@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> OK, just for the hell of it, I tried to download the thing. First,

>> >> >> it

>> >> >> insists that I log in. So, I signed up. Making me log in--first

>> >> >> stupidity.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Stupidity 2. The log in provides me with a password--hidden. No

>> >> >> explanation

>> >> >> or prompt to create my own. Had to do the Lost Password thing to

>> >> >> get

>> >> >> it

>> >> >> mailed to me.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Stupidity 3. Got all the above figured out and now I'm in an

>> >> >> endless

>> >> >> loop.

>> >> >> Click to download, log in, click to download, log in. Tried all

>> >> >> their

>> >> >> suggestions with no luck.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> And these idiots pretend to be programmers?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:OElYLUQ4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > Gary,

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > The Code Project have never sent me a SPAM message/newsletter in

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > 3

>> >> >> > or

>> >> >> > 4

>> >> >> > years I have been a member. Its for coders who are sharing

>> >> >> > code...

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I have written my own application that deletes the Index.dat

>> >> >> > files &

>> >> >> > I

>> >> >> > have seen

>> >> >> > some users ox XP having 4 MB Index.dat files when mine are

>> >> >> > 32kb/48kb/64kb

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Basically, I have given the OP a way to read this info, which is

>> >> >> > exactly

>> >> >> > what he

>> >> >> > wants

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > --

>> >> >> > Newbie Coder

>> >> >> > (It's just a name)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:u3zQnGQ4HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> Not interested in signing up for weekly SPAM. Besides, I'm not

>> >> >> >> on a

>> >> >> >> machine

>> >> >> >> where I can do such things at the moment. But I know for a fact

>> >> >> >> that

>> >> >> >> when

>> >> >> >> you delete Cookies, the related entries in the DAT file also get

>> >> >> >> deleted.

>> >> >> >> I'm 99.99% certain that it is that way with the TIF and History

>> >> >> >> DAT

>> >> >> >> files,

>> >> >> >> also. Or do you think that those files simply grow and grow and

>> >> >> >> grow,

>> >> >> >> forever?

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:eiTQ76P4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> > Gary,

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > The Index.dat files will still hold the information after the

>> >> >> >> > History,

>> >> >> >> > cookies,

>> >> >> >> > cache has been deleted - believe me

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Download the IE Spy I linked to & try it for yourself

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder

>> >> >> >> > (It's just a name)

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> > news:uc0be1P4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> >> If the user deleted History, then it can be assumed that he

>> >> >> >> >> also

>> >> >> >> >> deleted

>> >> >> >> >> TIFs and Cookies. The related DAT files will also be wiped

>> >> >> >> >> when

>> >> >> >> >> deleting

>> >> >> >> >> these caches.

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune

>> >> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> >> >> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com

>> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> "Newbie Coder" <newbiecoder@spammeplease.com> wrote in

>> >> >> >> >> message

>> >> >> >> >> news:ubJD2nP4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> >> > Sageman,

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > You cannot recover the history once its deleted but you can

>> >> >> >> >> > read

>> >> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> >> > Index.dat

>> >> >> >> >> > files which will tell you which sites this user has been on

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > Here's the free download:

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > http://www.codeproject.com/vbscript/Internet_Explorer_Spy.asp

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > The above tool is absolutely superb!!!

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > You will need to register for a free Code Project account

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > When run it will create a file in C\ drive called Spy.htm

>> >> >> >> >> > which

>> >> >> >> >> > will

>> >> >> >> >> > contain all

>> >> >> >> >> > URL's

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > At the end of the scan you have the option to delete all

>> >> >> >> >> > Index.dat

>> >> >> >> >> > files,

>> >> >> >> >> > seleted or none on next boot

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > The download has a network version of the tool too

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > Hope this helps,

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > --

>> >> >> >> >> > Newbie Coder

>> >> >> >> >> > (It's just a name)

>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> >

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>> >> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> >> > "Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> >> >> >> >> > message

>> >> >> >> >> > news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> >> >> We have an employee who appears to be browsing

>> >> >> >> >> >> inappropriate

>> >> >> >> >> >> web

>> >> >> >> >> >> sites

>> >> >> >> >> >> in

>> >> >> >> >> >> his

>> >> >> >> >> >> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days)

>> >> >> >> >> >> has

>> >> >> >> >> >> been

>> >> >> >> >> >> deleted.

>> >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he

>> >> >> >> >> >> had

>> >> >> >> >> >> looked

>> >> >> >> >> >> at

>> >> >> >> >> >> or

>> >> >> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> >> >> there another way to do this in future.

>> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

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Re: IE History - Can I recover it

 

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"Sageman" <Sageman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:42A4AA1D-C561-4D9F-913D-6A5161886AB0@microsoft.com...

> We have an employee who appears to be browsing inappropriate web sites in

> his

> lunch hour. The IE history (normally stored for 30 days) has been

> deleted.

> Is there any way of recovering what the list of sites he had looked at or

> is

> there another way to do this in future.

>

> Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

>