backing up c:\windows\ntfrs

[Guest Brent Gardner]

I have a Windows Server 2003 server that used to be a DC but was demoted

and is now a member server. The machine now runs SQL Server 2000 and

participates in SQL replication as both publisher and distributor.

 

My tape backup software indicates it is skipping the contents of

c:\windows\ntfrs. I know this is part of the file replication service.

 

Is this folder backed up as part of system state? Does it need to be

backed up separately? Should it be excluded?

 

 

Thanks.

 

Brent Gardner

[Guest Mathieu CHATEAU]

Re: backing up c:\windows\ntfrs

 

hello,

 

did you demote it properly ? or did you issue a /forceremoval ?

 

Is the folder empty ?

 

It's not linked to your SQL replication (as far as i know)

 

 

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

"Brent Gardner" <brent.gardner@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>I have a Windows Server 2003 server that used to be a DC but was demoted

>and is now a member server. The machine now runs SQL Server 2000 and

>participates in SQL replication as both publisher and distributor.

>

> My tape backup software indicates it is skipping the contents of

> c:\windows\ntfrs. I know this is part of the file replication service.

>

> Is this folder backed up as part of system state? Does it need to be

> backed up separately? Should it be excluded?

>

>

> Thanks.

>

> Brent Gardner

[Guest Brent Gardner]

Re: backing up c:\windows\ntfrs

 

Mathieu CHATEAU wrote:

> hello,

>

> did you demote it properly ? or did you issue a /forceremoval ?

>

As far as I know the server was demoted without incident. Do only DCs

use the File Replication Service? If so I'll simply disable the service

and we're done.

> Is the folder empty ?

>

There's a jet database named temp with associated logs and chks.

> It's not linked to your SQL replication (as far as i know)

>

 

I didn't think so either, I just thought I'd be complete.

 

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Brent Gardner

[Guest Brent Gardner]

Re: backing up c:\windows\ntfrs

 

OK.

 

I have checked my other member servers. They all have the File

Replication service disabled. I have checked the service on this

machine and no other services depend on it and the machine does not

participate in file replication, so I have stopped and disabled the

service. End of story for this machine.

 

However...

 

For all two of my domain controllers, the tape backup software also

reports that it cannot back up data under c:\windows\ntfrs because it

cannot open the files.

 

After much google searching I cannot find yea or nay that the data in

these files are included in system state, or that they should be backed

up separately, or that they should be excluded.

 

I've seen plenty of discussions about backing up/restoring replicated

data, SYSVOL, etc., but that's not what this is, is it?

 

This is metadata for the File Replication service.

 

Can anyone give or point me to a definitive answer?

 

 

Thanks.

 

Brent Gardner

 

 

 

Brent Gardner wrote:

> Mathieu CHATEAU wrote:

>> hello,

>>

>> did you demote it properly ? or did you issue a /forceremoval ?

>>

> As far as I know the server was demoted without incident. Do only DCs

> use the File Replication Service? If so I'll simply disable the service

> and we're done.

>

>> Is the folder empty ?

>>

> There's a jet database named temp with associated logs and chks.

>

>> It's not linked to your SQL replication (as far as i know)

>>

>

> I didn't think so either, I just thought I'd be complete.

>

>

> Thanks for your reply.

>

> Brent Gardner

[Guest Brent Gardner]

Re: backing up c:\windows\ntfrs

 

Finally I've found some definitive information.

 

According to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233427,

 

c:\windows\ntfrs\jet\* is excluded from ntbackup backups by default.

 

I'm adjusting my backup software to exclude these files.

 

 

Brent

 

 

Brent Gardner wrote:

> OK.

>

> I have checked my other member servers. They all have the File

> Replication service disabled. I have checked the service on this

> machine and no other services depend on it and the machine does not

> participate in file replication, so I have stopped and disabled the

> service. End of story for this machine.

>

> However...

>

> For all two of my domain controllers, the tape backup software also

> reports that it cannot back up data under c:\windows\ntfrs because it

> cannot open the files.

>

> After much google searching I cannot find yea or nay that the data in

> these files are included in system state, or that they should be backed

> up separately, or that they should be excluded.

>

> I've seen plenty of discussions about backing up/restoring replicated

> data, SYSVOL, etc., but that's not what this is, is it?

>

> This is metadata for the File Replication service.

>

> Can anyone give or point me to a definitive answer?

>

>

> Thanks.

>

> Brent Gardner

>

>

>

> Brent Gardner wrote:

>> Mathieu CHATEAU wrote:

>>> hello,

>>>

>>> did you demote it properly ? or did you issue a /forceremoval ?

>>>

>> As far as I know the server was demoted without incident. Do only DCs

>> use the File Replication Service? If so I'll simply disable the

>> service and we're done.

>>

>>> Is the folder empty ?

>>>

>> There's a jet database named temp with associated logs and chks.

>>

>>> It's not linked to your SQL replication (as far as i know)

>>>

>>

>> I didn't think so either, I just thought I'd be complete.

>>

>>

>> Thanks for your reply.

>>

>> Brent Gardner

[Guest Mathieu CHATEAU]

Re: backing up c:\windows\ntfrs

 

Great !

thanks for giving this information

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

"Brent Gardner" <brent.gardner@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Finally I've found some definitive information.

>

> According to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/233427,

>

> c:\windows\ntfrs\jet\* is excluded from ntbackup backups by default.

>

> I'm adjusting my backup software to exclude these files.

>

>

> Brent

>

>

> Brent Gardner wrote:

>> OK.

>>

>> I have checked my other member servers. They all have the File

>> Replication service disabled. I have checked the service on this machine

>> and no other services depend on it and the machine does not participate

>> in file replication, so I have stopped and disabled the service. End of

>> story for this machine.

>>

>> However...

>>

>> For all two of my domain controllers, the tape backup software also

>> reports that it cannot back up data under c:\windows\ntfrs because it

>> cannot open the files.

>>

>> After much google searching I cannot find yea or nay that the data in

>> these files are included in system state, or that they should be backed

>> up separately, or that they should be excluded.

>>

>> I've seen plenty of discussions about backing up/restoring replicated

>> data, SYSVOL, etc., but that's not what this is, is it?

>>

>> This is metadata for the File Replication service.

>>

>> Can anyone give or point me to a definitive answer?

>>

>>

>> Thanks.

>>

>> Brent Gardner

>>

>>

>>

>> Brent Gardner wrote:

>>> Mathieu CHATEAU wrote:

>>>> hello,

>>>>

>>>> did you demote it properly ? or did you issue a /forceremoval ?

>>>>

>>> As far as I know the server was demoted without incident. Do only DCs

>>> use the File Replication Service? If so I'll simply disable the service

>>> and we're done.

>>>

>>>> Is the folder empty ?

>>>>

>>> There's a jet database named temp with associated logs and chks.

>>>

>>>> It's not linked to your SQL replication (as far as i know)

>>>>

>>>

>>> I didn't think so either, I just thought I'd be complete.

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks for your reply.

>>>

>>> Brent Gardner