Guest Rod Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 I'd like to run one of the free fix-it programs "fix OE errors" available on the web. Any recomendations? warnings? Just checking with the cognoscenti. Any problems are probably with my ISP, my OE shows posts to my fav Newsgroup, but they are not getting replies, nor showing up in Google, so I thought I give these programs a fly, in part, to appease my anxiety. Praise to the knowledgeable.
Guest Don Phillipson Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23BhZv7S4HHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Any problems are probably with my ISP, > my OE shows posts to my fav Newsgroup, > but they are not getting replies, nor showing > up in Google, so I thought I give these programs > a fly, in part, to appease my anxiety. Before altering your OE: 1 Check its parameters e.g. / Tools / Options / Send and other likely pages. 2. Try alternative NG software e.g. Firefox Thunderbird. You might prefer it. If neither solves your problem repost here indicating what version of OE you use and how / Tools / Options are configured. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Free "fixit" programs are, without exception, CRAP. Please clarify. You can post to the NG (they end up in the Sent Items folder), but they don't show up on the NG? Or, you can see other posts but you can't post your own messages? Have you checked the View tab. Current View, to make sure that no messages are being Hidden? Note that your post arrived here OK, and I can only hope that you get this reply. If this NG works as expected, then I would presume that the other is a server issue. Or, perhaps there is some mechanism that prevents you from posting without explicit permission? Are you viewing this NG using the same account as the problem NG? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23BhZv7S4HHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > I'd like to run one of the free fix-it programs > "fix OE errors" available on the web. > Any recomendations? warnings? > > Just checking with the cognoscenti. > > Any problems are probably with my ISP, > my OE shows posts to my fav Newsgroup, > but they are not getting replies, nor showing > up in Google, so I thought I give these programs > a fly, in part, to appease my anxiety. > > Praise to the knowledgeable. > > > >
Guest Rod Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "Don Phillipson" <d.phillipsonSPAMBLOCK@rogers.com> wrote in message news:#9J4jDT4HHA.5880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Before altering your OE: > 1 Check its parameters e.g. / Tools / Options / Send > and other likely pages. > 2. Try alternative NG software e.g. Firefox Thunderbird. > You might prefer it. Ta, Don. "Wilco" I'd prefer to remain with OE, it's the "pipe and slippers" comfort thing. However I will change if need be, the present situation is archaic. (ever tried having a NG discussion via Google?)
Guest Rod Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" > Free "fixit" programs are, without exception, CRAP. Brevity, marvelous :) > Please clarify. You can post to the NG (they end up in the Sent Items > folder), but they don't show up on the NG? Yessirree. That be the problem. >Or, you can see other posts ............No cannot see other posts at all >Have you checked the View tab. ...yep, conversant with the "views" > Note that your post arrived here OK, .....yes, never any trouble with the microsoft server. > reply. If this NG works as expected, then I would presume that the other is > a server issue. Or, perhaps there is some mechanism that prevents you from > posting without explicit permission? Are you viewing this NG using the same > account as the problem NG? I shall check, thanks Gary.
Guest Rod Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" > > Please clarify. You can post to the NG (they end up in the Sent Items > > folder), but they don't show up on the NG? Ooops, I post to the newsgroup, they show up in my "sent" folder, they show up in the newsgroup in "my" OE folder, but I do not see any replies, and they are not in Google so I have no idea if they are resident on any servers or not to the wider public. Sorry to confuse.
Guest Rod Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" > Note that your post arrived here OK, and I can only hope that you get this > reply. If this NG works as expected, then I would presume that the other is > a server issue. I try to use my ISP "questions: chat live on line" http://iprimus.com.au/PrimusWeb to ask if they have a server problem, or that my newsgroup is supported the chat box, opens, then explodes to such a huge window size, I cannot navigate very strange and frustrating.
Guest PA Bear Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Here are all newsgroup posts you've made using the email address you've used to post here: http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Apookiethai%40iprimus.com.au&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en Are any missing? If so, the problem might lie with your ISP's newsserver or the one that you use to access the non-MS newsgroups (e.g., rec.collecting.stamps.discuss; rec.collecting.stamps.general). To make sure OE is receiving all posts to the newsgroups: 1. View > Current view > Show all messages (check this option) 2. Tools > Options > Read > Get XXX headers at a time > Uncheck (disable) this option ....then open your newsgroups again. More: You may set the option in #1 as high as 1,000. Right-click on the newsgroup in Folders pane > Synchronization Settings > select New Messages Only. Now every time you open the newsgroup (or hit F5), you will download the next-newest set of headers/messages. When you feel you've downloaded enough headers/messages, again right-click on the newsgroup in Folders pane and select Catch Up Now. This will Mark as Read all messages on the server, including ones you've not yet downloaded. Now return to "Get XXX headers at a time" and uncheck the option completely; then compact the folder. From now on, OE will only download headers/messages posted to the server since you last checked (polled) for messages. You should probably visit this page, too: http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#cleannews (lotsa good stuff there). -- OE-specific newsgroup: http://news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) Rod wrote: > I'd like to run one of the free fix-it programs > "fix OE errors" available on the web. > Any recomendations? warnings? > > Just checking with the cognoscenti. > > Any problems are probably with my ISP, > my OE shows posts to my fav Newsgroup, > but they are not getting replies, nor showing > up in Google, so I thought I give these programs > a fly, in part, to appease my anxiety. > > Praise to the knowledgeable.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Perhaps there are no replies? Can you post a reply to one of your own messages? Anyway, Pa Bear has more hints that I think may apply. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23UwLgUT4HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> > Please clarify. You can post to the NG (they end up in the Sent Items >> > folder), but they don't show up on the NG? > > Ooops, I post to the newsgroup, > they show up in my "sent" folder, > they show up in the newsgroup in "my" OE folder, > but I do not see any replies, and they are not in Google > so I have no idea if they are resident on any servers or not > to the wider public. > > Sorry to confuse. > > > >
Guest Rod Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:#TXJMwT4HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Here are all newsgroup posts you've made using the email address you've used > to post here: Thanks Robear and Gary, working through the advice.
Guest Rod Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:#BhZv7S4HHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Any problems are probably with my ISP, > my OE shows posts to my fav Newsgroup, > but they are not getting replies, nor showing > up in Google, so I thought I give these programs > a fly, in part, to appease my anxiety. Just a FYI this is the response from my ISP. (if they haven't a problem, then there is no problem) ( does this look like a fob off to you?) Dear Rodney, Thank you for your enquiry below regarding your Primus Telecom account. At this stage all Primus systems are running properly and there are no known issues. You can visit http://support.iprimus.com.au/ and click on "Primus System Status" to check Primus system status at anytime. If you are still experiencing a problem please contact our 24x7 technical support directly on 1300851185 regarding a newsgroup related query so that they can try to assist you. Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions. Kind Regards,
Guest PCR Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23WeNCOU4HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl | "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message | news:#TXJMwT4HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... |> Here are all newsgroup posts you've made using the email address |> you've used to post here: | | Thanks Robear and Gary, | working through the advice. In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" (1) "IE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News". (2) Does anything show up in the top or bottom box?
Guest PCR Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl | "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message | news:%23WeNCOU4HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl || "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message || news:#TXJMwT4HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... ||> Here are all newsgroup posts you've made using the email address ||> you've used to post here: || || Thanks Robear and Gary, || working through the advice. | | In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a | message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question | Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" | | (1) "IE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News". | (2) Does anything show up in the top or bottom box? That's... OE (Outlook Express)-- not IE! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR pcrrcp@netzero.net
Guest Rod Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a > message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question > Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" Yes, I can, it shows up in my NG posts in y OE folder but not evident in Google. > > (1) "IE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News". > (2) Does anything show up in the top or bottom box? Just 2 rules that exclude obnoxious posters that is just two peoples names that would appear in from box. Thanks for applying yourself to my query. Rod
Guest Rod Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a > > message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question > > Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" As you can see, over the past two weeks, all my postings show (in my OE folder) yet there are no replies, (there has been some) and other peoples posts are not showing. http://cjoint.com/data/iubBIxgyGi.htm
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" WAIT A MINUTE! Is your only problem that the messages don't show up in Google Groups? And they DO show up in OE? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:%23EbgLgr4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a >> message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question >> Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" > > Yes, I can, it shows up in my NG posts in y OE folder > but not evident in Google. > >> >> (1) "IE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News". >> (2) Does anything show up in the top or bottom box? > > Just 2 rules that exclude obnoxious posters > that is just two peoples names that would appear in from box. > > Thanks for applying yourself to my query. > Rod > > > > > > > >
Guest Curt Christianson Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" I have a few "Google" posts I wish I could have back. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:OQABMlr4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | WAIT A MINUTE! Is your only problem that the messages don't show up in | Google Groups? And they DO show up in OE? | | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com | | "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message | news:%23EbgLgr4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | > | > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message | > news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | >> In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a | >> message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question | >> Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" | > | > Yes, I can, it shows up in my NG posts in y OE folder | > but not evident in Google. | > | >> | >> (1) "IE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News". | >> (2) Does anything show up in the top or bottom box? | > | > Just 2 rules that exclude obnoxious posters | > that is just two peoples names that would appear in from box. | > | > Thanks for applying yourself to my query. | > Rod | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | |
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 19, 2007 Posted August 19, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" I have a ton of them, <s>. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:eRQ3Fqr4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I have a few "Google" posts I wish I could have back. > > -- > HTH, > Curt > > Windows Support Center > http://www.aumha.org > Practically Nerded,... > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:OQABMlr4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | WAIT A MINUTE! Is your only problem that the messages don't show up in > | Google Groups? And they DO show up in OE? > | > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message > | news:%23EbgLgr4HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | > > | > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > | > news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | >> In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a > | >> message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question > | >> Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" > | > > | > Yes, I can, it shows up in my NG posts in y OE folder > | > but not evident in Google. > | > > | >> > | >> (1) "IE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News". > | >> (2) Does anything show up in the top or bottom box? > | > > | > Just 2 rules that exclude obnoxious posters > | > that is just two peoples names that would appear in from box. > | > > | > Thanks for applying yourself to my query. > | > Rod > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > | > >
Guest PA Bear Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Rod wrote: > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message > news:enQEWto4HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> In addition to the other fine advice, check that you do not have a >> message rule blocking or deleting replies. Also, answer the question >> Terhune posed: "Can you post a reply to one of your own messages?" > > Yes, I can, it shows up in my NG posts in y OE folder > but not evident in Google. In an earlier reply to this thread, I posted a (Google Groups) link to all of your recent newsgroup posts. Were any missing? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
Guest PA Bear Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Rod wrote: > "Rod" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message > news:#BhZv7S4HHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Any problems are probably with my ISP, >> my OE shows posts to my fav Newsgroup, >> but they are not getting replies, nor showing >> up in Google, so I thought I give these programs >> a fly, in part, to appease my anxiety. > > Just a FYI > this is the response from my ISP. > (if they haven't a problem, then there is no problem) > > ( does this look like a fob off to you?) > > Dear Rodney, > > Thank you for your enquiry below regarding your Primus Telecom account. > > At this stage all Primus systems are running properly and there are no > known > issues. You can visit http://support.iprimus.com.au/ and click on > "Primus > System Status" to check Primus system status at anytime. If you are still > experiencing a problem please contact our 24x7 technical support directly > on > 1300851185 regarding a newsgroup related query so that they can try to > assist you. > > Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions. > > Kind Regards, What's the newsserver you're using (besides http://news://msnews.microsoft.com)? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
Guest Rod Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:OQABMlr4HHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > WAIT A MINUTE! Is your only problem that the messages don't show up in > Google Groups? And they DO show up in OE? No Gary, it was just confirmation that, (presumably) my ISP somehow accepts my post, then it flits off into the stratosphere somewhere. As my understanding, Google just confirms my post to the Newsgroup via OE. In other words if I have a successful post to my NG via my OE, It <always> arrives on Google as well. (well it did once) Now it shows up in my sent folder shows as posted to my NG (but doesnt arrive) and does not show up in Google.
Guest Rod Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ueV0Ynt4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > In an earlier reply to this thread, I posted a (Google Groups) link to all > of your recent newsgroup posts. Were any missing? Yes, thank you 2 were missing, the Locomotives on stamps and another posting. I guess I can try again with another post?
Guest Rod Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eDTzUtt4HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > What's the newsserver you're using (besides http://news://msnews.microsoft.com)? new.iprimus.com.au and thru my OE newsreader. http://cjoint.com/data/iukbg2Dknb.htm The response I had from iprimus is, I suspect a normal reply from India, the last time I complained about another issue, the same thing, I think iprimus outsources its call centres.
Guest PA Bear Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Rod wrote: > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ueV0Ynt4HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> In an earlier reply to this thread, I posted a (Google Groups) link to >> all >> of your recent newsgroup posts. Were any missing? > > Yes, thank you > 2 were missing, the Locomotives on stamps > and another posting. > > I guess I can try again with another post? As others have pointed out, Google Groups archive is not infallible. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
Guest PA Bear Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Seek opinion on "fix OE errors" Rod wrote: >> What's the newsserver you're using (besides http://news://msnews.microsoft.com)? > > new.iprimus.com.au and thru my OE newsreader. > http://cjoint.com/data/iukbg2Dknb.htm > The response I had from iprimus is, I suspect > a normal reply from India, the last time I complained > about another issue, the same thing, > I think iprimus outsources its call centres. Your ISP's newsserver (which is probably not really their newsserver) may only retain posts for a brief period of time (e.g., 24 hours). Posts are retained for a minimum of 90 days on the MS newsserver. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
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