Guest RRTRACKS via WindowsKB.com Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Recently I replaced the drives on my PC by cloning.The new drives boot the OS system without errors. All the partitions and associated files appeared to be fine, and I have not had any problems running any of the programs moved to the new drives. One thing that really surprised me is Windows did not require to be activated on the new drives. WOW! As I am having a problem I will make that a wow! For some reason the cookies associated with IE did not transfer to the new drives. This is not important to me but may give a clue as to the problem of concern. Upon trying to run System Restore from Help, shortly after this transfer the following error message was displayed. “System Restore Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. ” The error log lists the following: Faulting application rstrui.exe, version 5.1.2600.2180, faulting module srrstr.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00009826. Clicking on the “System Restore” tab on the System Properties Menu results in the following message: An exception occurred while trying to run “C:\Windows\ system32\shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL SYSDM.CPL,System” Before placing this post a search on this board for a solution was made. The methods given for reinstalling System Restore by using sr.inf to do an install worked fine until Windows threw a curve ball at me after the last step. It wants a file named srfame.mmf. All the files on my hard drive and original installation disc used with the Browse button for selection resulted in a, “Installation Failed” message. The original OS installed on this PC was Windows XP Home SP1. As it has been updated to SP2 using Windows update I do not have the file that was used to do that update. Any suggestions or even guesses about how to fix this problem would be appreciated. Thanks, Rich -- Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com
Guest Paul Randall Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Problem With System Restore on My Cloned Drives What exactly do you mean by 'replaced the drives on my PC by cloning'? Using software like Norton Ghost, or Acronis True Image could have truely cloned your old drives, but for Norton Ghost, how 'truely cloned' it is depends on the options used -- I don't know much about True Image. Hopefully you still have the old drives and have not messed with them since replacing them. -Paul Randall "RRTRACKS via WindowsKB.com" <u34362@uwe> wrote in message news:76f6e4c88d4de@uwe... > Recently I replaced the drives on my PC by cloning.The new drives boot the > OS > system without errors. All the partitions and associated files appeared to > be > fine, and I have not had any problems running any of the programs moved to > the new drives. One thing that really surprised me is Windows did not > require > to be activated on the new drives. WOW! As I am having a problem I will > make > that a wow! > > For some reason the cookies associated with IE did not transfer to the new > drives. This is not important to me but may give a clue as to the problem > of > concern. > > Upon trying to run System Restore from Help, shortly after this transfer > the > following error message was displayed. "System Restore Application has > encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the > inconvenience. > " > > The error log lists the following: > Faulting application rstrui.exe, version 5.1.2600.2180, faulting module > srrstr.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00009826. > > > > > Clicking on the "System Restore" tab on the System Properties Menu results > in > the following message: An exception occurred while trying to run > "C:\Windows\ > system32\shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL SYSDM.CPL,System" > > Before placing this post a search on this board for a solution was made. > The > methods given for reinstalling System Restore by using sr.inf to do an > install worked fine until Windows threw a curve ball at me after the last > step. It wants a file named srfame.mmf. All the files on my hard drive and > original installation disc used with the Browse button for selection > resulted > in a, "Installation Failed" message. > > The original OS installed on this PC was Windows XP Home SP1. As it has > been > updated to SP2 using Windows update I do not have the file that was used > to > do that update. > > Any suggestions or even guesses about how to fix this problem would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Rich > > -- > Message posted via http://www.windowskb.com >
Guest Bert Kinney Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Re: Problem With System Restore on My Cloned Drives Hi Rich, If the srframe.mmf file can not be located, browse to C:\Windows\System32\Restore folder. It may be necessary to browse back to the i386 folder to complete the reinstall. How to reinstall System Restore in Windows XP: http://bertk.mvps.org/html/reinstall.html Regards, Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User http://bertk.mvps.org Member: http://dts-l.org RRTRACKS via WindowsKB.com wrote: > Recently I replaced the drives on my PC by cloning.The new drives boot the OS > system without errors. All the partitions and associated files appeared to be > fine, and I have not had any problems running any of the programs moved to > the new drives. One thing that really surprised me is Windows did not require > to be activated on the new drives. WOW! As I am having a problem I will make > that a wow! > > For some reason the cookies associated with IE did not transfer to the new > drives. This is not important to me but may give a clue as to the problem of > concern. > > Upon trying to run System Restore from Help, shortly after this transfer the > following error message was displayed. “System Restore Application has > encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. > ” > > The error log lists the following: > Faulting application rstrui.exe, version 5.1.2600.2180, faulting module > srrstr.dll, version 5.1.2600.2180, fault address 0x00009826. > > > Clicking on the “System Restore” tab on the System Properties Menu results in > the following message: An exception occurred while trying to run “C:\Windows\ > system32\shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL SYSDM.CPL,System” > > Before placing this post a search on this board for a solution was made. The > methods given for reinstalling System Restore by using sr.inf to do an > install worked fine until Windows threw a curve ball at me after the last > step. It wants a file named srfame.mmf. All the files on my hard drive and > original installation disc used with the Browse button for selection resulted > in a, “Installation Failed” message. > > The original OS installed on this PC was Windows XP Home SP1. As it has been > updated to SP2 using Windows update I do not have the file that was used to > do that update. > > Any suggestions or even guesses about how to fix this problem would be > appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Rich
Guest RRTRACKS via WindowsKB.com Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Problem With System Restore on My Cloned Drives To all, The problem with System Restore (SR) described in the post above has been resolved. Exactly how this happened I do not know. The procedure for running sr.inf was the one given in the link by Bert Kinney given above. Even after getting the “Installation Failed” message I rebooted the computer with the hope that MS had lied. It would not be the first time. My hope this had happened did not pan out. For no reason in particular last night another attempt to run SR was made. Much to my surprise it worked. It was found a system restore point had been created. Maybe the automated process, that created this restore point did something, I could not in getting the SR program to start. Since all my previous restore points had been cleared, it seems likely the sr. inf installation program might have been more successful than originally believed. With limited testing SR on my PC was found to be fully functional in that it could set a restore point, restore a previous set point and return to the created set point. The Cloning of disk drives may not have been the cause of the problem I was having, as people do this all the time without this problem occurring. However, going from two pairs of PATA drives configured as Raid O arrays to two single SATA drives with all the possible variables this entails might have thrown a monkey wrench into the process. Add in the reason the drives were being replaced was because of a few bad cluster reports (not on the drive holding the OS) and the range of possibilities of what went wrong widens. Paul, I used Seagate’s DiscWizard (DW) to copy the OS partition and Norton’s Ghost 2006 to copy the balance of the partitions. There were not any setting I could find (Including MBR) that would successfully copy the boot partition my system had with the version of Ghost that was used. The reason Ghost was used to copy the balance of the partitions was because it could and was much faster than DW. Bert, Your efforts here are greatly appreciated. Without them I would not have stumbled upon the solution (whatever it was) that occurred. A couple points of information you might want to bookmark for future reference follow. The only copies of the srframe.mmf file on my computer were located in the Windows\system32\Restore and \dllcache directories. Attempting to use the “Browse” button to use these files during the sr.inf install did not appear to work. Once SR started working on my PC additional occurrences of this file were not found. The last date modified of the two files having this name on my computer is Aug 29, 2002. Other sources for errors: For about three years I have been running Windows and Norton Security Update along with a virus scan by means of scheduled tasks every Tuesday night. This should eliminate one likely source for this error. Me, anything and everything is possible there. If I ever find there was something done on my part to have created this mess it will be posted here. Rich -- Message posted via WindowsKB.com http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/windowsxp/200708/1
Guest Paul Randall Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Problem With System Restore on My Cloned Drives Glad to hear that things are working. I know that older versions of Ghost don't properly copy Vista's MBR - I thought that Norton might have fixed that. I don't know if an upgrade is available that does. I use the DOS versions of Ghost and MBRWiz on a bootable CD to wind up with a good copy with a good MBR. -Paul Randall "RRTRACKS via WindowsKB.com" <u34362@uwe> wrote in message news:771cd66319c97@uwe... > To all, > > The problem with System Restore (SR) described in the post above has been > resolved. Exactly how this happened I do not know. > > The procedure for running sr.inf was the one given in the link by Bert > Kinney > given above. Even after getting the "Installation Failed" message I > rebooted > the computer with the hope that MS had lied. It would not be the first > time. > My hope this had happened did not pan out. > > For no reason in particular last night another attempt to run SR was made. > Much to my surprise it worked. It was found a system restore point had > been > created. Maybe the automated process, that created this restore point did > something, I could not in getting the SR program to start. > > Since all my previous restore points had been cleared, it seems likely the > sr. > inf installation program might have been more successful than originally > believed. With limited testing SR on my PC was found to be fully > functional > in that it could set a restore point, restore a previous set point and > return > to the created set point. > > The Cloning of disk drives may not have been the cause of the problem I > was > having, as people do this all the time without this problem occurring. > However, going from two pairs of PATA drives configured as Raid O arrays > to > two single SATA drives with all the possible variables this entails might > have thrown a monkey wrench into the process. Add in the reason the drives > were being replaced was because of a few bad cluster reports (not on the > drive holding the OS) and the range of possibilities of what went wrong > widens. > > Paul, > > I used Seagate's DiscWizard (DW) to copy the OS partition and Norton's > Ghost > 2006 to copy the balance of the partitions. There were not any setting I > could find (Including MBR) that would successfully copy the boot partition > my > system had with the version of Ghost that was used. The reason Ghost was > used > to copy the balance of the partitions was because it could and was much > faster than DW. > > Bert, > > Your efforts here are greatly appreciated. Without them I would not have > stumbled upon the solution (whatever it was) that occurred. A couple > points > of information you might want to bookmark for future reference follow. The > only copies of the srframe.mmf file on my computer were located in the > Windows\system32\Restore and \dllcache directories. Attempting to use the > "Browse" button to use these files during the sr.inf install did not > appear > to work. > > Once SR started working on my PC additional occurrences of this file were > not > found. The last date modified of the two files having this name on my > computer is Aug 29, 2002. > > Other sources for errors: > > For about three years I have been running Windows and Norton Security > Update > along with a virus scan by means of scheduled tasks every Tuesday night. > This > should eliminate one likely source for this error. > > Me, anything and everything is possible there. If I ever find there was > something done on my part to have created this mess it will be posted > here. > > Rich > > -- > Message posted via WindowsKB.com > http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/windowsxp/200708/1 >
Guest Bert Kinney Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Problem With System Restore on My Cloned Drives Thanks for the feedback Rich. Regards, Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User http://bertk.mvps.org Member: http://dts-l.org RRTRACKS via WindowsKB.com wrote: > To all, > > The problem with System Restore (SR) described in the post above has been > resolved. Exactly how this happened I do not know. > > The procedure for running sr.inf was the one given in the link by Bert Kinney > given above. Even after getting the “Installation Failed” message I rebooted > the computer with the hope that MS had lied. It would not be the first time. > My hope this had happened did not pan out. > > For no reason in particular last night another attempt to run SR was made. > Much to my surprise it worked. It was found a system restore point had been > created. Maybe the automated process, that created this restore point did > something, I could not in getting the SR program to start. > > Since all my previous restore points had been cleared, it seems likely the sr. > inf installation program might have been more successful than originally > believed. With limited testing SR on my PC was found to be fully functional > in that it could set a restore point, restore a previous set point and return > to the created set point. > > The Cloning of disk drives may not have been the cause of the problem I was > having, as people do this all the time without this problem occurring. > However, going from two pairs of PATA drives configured as Raid O arrays to > two single SATA drives with all the possible variables this entails might > have thrown a monkey wrench into the process. Add in the reason the drives > were being replaced was because of a few bad cluster reports (not on the > drive holding the OS) and the range of possibilities of what went wrong > widens. > > Paul, > > I used Seagate’s DiscWizard (DW) to copy the OS partition and Norton’s Ghost > 2006 to copy the balance of the partitions. There were not any setting I > could find (Including MBR) that would successfully copy the boot partition my > system had with the version of Ghost that was used. The reason Ghost was used > to copy the balance of the partitions was because it could and was much > faster than DW. > > Bert, > > Your efforts here are greatly appreciated. Without them I would not have > stumbled upon the solution (whatever it was) that occurred. A couple points > of information you might want to bookmark for future reference follow. The > only copies of the srframe.mmf file on my computer were located in the > Windows\system32\Restore and \dllcache directories. Attempting to use the > “Browse” button to use these files during the sr.inf install did not appear > to work. > > Once SR started working on my PC additional occurrences of this file were not > found. The last date modified of the two files having this name on my > computer is Aug 29, 2002. > > Other sources for errors: > > For about three years I have been running Windows and Norton Security Update > along with a virus scan by means of scheduled tasks every Tuesday night. This > should eliminate one likely source for this error. > > Me, anything and everything is possible there. If I ever find there was > something done on my part to have created this mess it will be posted here. > > Rich >
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