A Malware Discussion

[Seth]

Typically, a Trojan Horse does not come alone. As such, I recommend you also download, update, and run complete scans with MalwareBytes and SuperAntiSpyware.

[Guest Wolfeymole]

If Bess obtains the Security Suite it will, on first installation, scan all drives and partitions for issues on boot up Seth.

[Seth]

If Bess obtains the Security Suite it will, on first installation, scan all drives and partitions for issues Seth.

 

Yes of course. However, I don't understand how that relates to my post.

[Dalo Harkin]

Yes of course. However, I don't understand how that relates to my post.

 

Wolfey means that upon installation that NOD32 will check for spyware/malware, viruses and what not.

Therefore additional programs are not needed.

[danzil]

i totally agree.go with Eset nod32 anti virus with smart security.the company i work for is a registered partner of ESET we used to use Panda when it was good (if it ever was, my opinion).but by far the best AV out there is Nod32..

it has never let me or my clients down,and the firewall is awesome,just remeber to choose interactive mode with the firewall not auto,,,otherwise you will not see the options to allow and block (ask on install)..it will just block what it thinks is unsafe.

regards

danzil

:)

[Seth]

Wolfey means that upon installation that NOD32 will check for spyware/malware, viruses and what not.

Therefore additional programs are not needed.

 

There is no such thing as an antimalware app that is 100% effective.

 

Ron?

[Dalo Harkin]

You were asking how it related to your post Seth - I answered - Nod32 has detected the other 3 items and on that basis will remove them.

[Dalo Harkin]

There is no such thing as an antimalware app that is 100% effective

 

yet you recommended MalwareBytes.

[Seth]

yet you recommended MalwareBytes.

 

No, I recommend SAS, MB, and NOD32.

 

I WROTE the malware removal sticky with Rons help.

[Dalo Harkin]

Seth,

 

Since you wrote that sticky, I am sure you are aware that Malware and Spyware is advancing - Nod32 has also advanced since that time and I am sure will be more than capable of removing what Bess needs it to.

[Seth]

Seth,

 

Since you wrote that sticky, I am sure you are aware that Malware and Spyware is advancing - Nod32 has also advanced since that time and I am sure will be more than capable of removing what Bess needs it to.

 

You're missing the point Dalo.

 

Proper internet security is achieved by a layered means. As I said, there is no such thing as an antimalware product that can detect everything. Any malware expert will tell you the same.

 

That's precisely why multiple scanners are run on an infected system.

[Dalo Harkin]

Seth,

 

Once she has installed NOD32 if the problems remain, then she can at SAS and MB.

there is no point in doing it before you install NOD32 as there is a high probability that NOD32 will clear them upon installation.

[Dalo Harkin]

Proper internet security is achieved by a layered means.

 

Proper internet security is achieved by common sense :D

[Seth]

Seth,

 

Once she has installed NOD32 if the problems remain, then she can at SAS and MB.

there is no point in doing it before you install NOD32 as there is a high probability that NOD32 will clear them upon installation.

 

For every one visible form of malware, there is typically 3 to 5 that are hidden. As such, "if the problem remains" doesn't apply.

 

On the next infected system I get in my shop, I'll run NOD and follow up with MB and SAS. I'll post the logs and I guarantee that the latter scanners will find more malware.

[Dalo Harkin]

For every one visible form of malware, there is typically 3 to 5 that are hidden. As such, "if the problem remains" doesn't apply.

 

On the next infected system I get in my shop, I'll run NOD and follow up with MB and SAS. I'll post the logs and I guarantee that the latter scanners will find more malware.

 

you know this is not always the case - every system is different, as are the Viruses and the damage they cause.

[Guest Wolfeymole]

Prove why layered anti-malware apps are better than NOD's Security Suite Seth.

[Seth]

Proper internet security is achieved by common sense :D

 

I agree.

 

FPCH used to have a sticky I wrote called "How to Prevent A Malware Infection". But, it was accidentally deleted when the site went to VB. Anyway, I stressed in the post that user knowledge is far more important than any internet security application.

[maynardvdm]

I dont think you all understand what Seth is saying here.

 

No one antivirus suite is 100% secure against all types of malware. There are are software that can be installed along side your normal antivirus suite to make your security much stronger.

[Guest Wolfeymole]

We talk not of a singular antivirus app but a program that encompasses all, ie AV, Firewall, Spam and Malware which Nods Security Suite does.

[Seth]

Prove why layered anti-malware apps are better than NOD's Security Suite Seth.

 

That's not what I said.

 

I'm suggesting that a dual or even triple approach to security applications is more secure than one single program. For example, NOD along with SAS or MB.

 

Not only will it be more secure since one antimalware app can't detect everything, but by only having one, the system is much more vulnerable to a targeted attack, which can disable the app, or even damage it. That of course means that the system would have no protection at all.

 

If you don't believe me, then post the question on any malware forum, and they'll tell you the same thing.

 

I'll post logs of what NOD misses, along with what SAS and MB miss.

[maynardvdm]

Yes i know that. Should i give you a list of other software that can make your security stronger?

[Guest Wolfeymole]

Ok then so where does the list of apps to run end Seth?

 

Does a person spend all day running multiple apps to discover if they have even a trace of malware?

 

When do they get anything done?

[Seth]

Ok then so where does the list of apps to run end Seth?

 

Does a person spend all day running multiple apps to discover if they have even a trace of malware?

 

When do they get anything done?

 

That depends on the knowledge of the user and what particular security they want to use. Obviously, too much of anything is going to be a problem.

 

Something like NOD along with SAS/MB, Site Advisor, and a good dose of education is usually enough for the average user.

[Guest Wolfeymole]

Let's just get things into perspective here ok.

 

I talk of Nod's Security Suite not the stand alone Nod AV.

 

At the end of the day where does a person get knowledge Seth?

 

Usually by being burnt by by their own innocence, this is not their fault but I maintain that you do not have to run multi-layered applications via different vendors to achieve success.

[DSTM]

What your'e saying, Wolfey,one Security Suite can protect you from every known Cyber threat on the Internet. Which One??????:)