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Guest Okramo
Posted

Hi,

 

I've created OU "Testers". Opened "Testers" properties and at Group

Policy menu created Group Policy Object linked to OU "Testers".

 

There at GP Object I've changed setting required password complexity

and disabled it.

 

Also I've blocked Policy Inheritance to disable applying Default

Domain Policy to my OU "Testers", cause there in Default Domain Policy

I have password complexity configured which I don't want to assign to

OU "Testers".

 

My problem is that when I want to create user in OU "Testers" it

always warns me to use complex password, which is configured at

default domain policy. I can't create user with simple password what I

was planning to accomplish with creating Grup Policy Object for OU

"Testers".

 

 

How can I override default domain policy?

How can I assign custom group policy to specific OU?

 

Thank you for answers!

Guest Mathieu CHATEAU
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

Hello,

The account part is always read from the default domain gpo.

You can't set this part elsewhere, this is domain wide.

 

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

"Okramo" <okramo@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1187685933.618016.294800@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> Hi,

>

> I've created OU "Testers". Opened "Testers" properties and at Group

> Policy menu created Group Policy Object linked to OU "Testers".

>

> There at GP Object I've changed setting required password complexity

> and disabled it.

>

> Also I've blocked Policy Inheritance to disable applying Default

> Domain Policy to my OU "Testers", cause there in Default Domain Policy

> I have password complexity configured which I don't want to assign to

> OU "Testers".

>

> My problem is that when I want to create user in OU "Testers" it

> always warns me to use complex password, which is configured at

> default domain policy. I can't create user with simple password what I

> was planning to accomplish with creating Grup Policy Object for OU

> "Testers".

>

>

> How can I override default domain policy?

> How can I assign custom group policy to specific OU?

>

> Thank you for answers!

>

Guest Eric Denekamp
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

afaik you CAN do this by using group policy filtering, Thus you CAN create

different password policies in the same domain, the only thing is, you have

to circumvent this by creation, I think the easiest way of doing so will be:

create an account template for the testers, create a Security group called

testers, put the template in the group and specify on the default doman

policy that this policy is denied apply group policy to testers, (so testers

do not GET ANY setting in this policy)

 

(This is of the top of my head, if it works please report back,

theoretically it should)

 

--

Good luck

 

Eric Denekamp

http://blogs.infosupport.com/ericd

 

=============================

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

news:evhQjG94HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hello,

> The account part is always read from the default domain gpo.

> You can't set this part elsewhere, this is domain wide.

>

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>

>

> "Okramo" <okramo@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:1187685933.618016.294800@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

>> Hi,

>>

>> I've created OU "Testers". Opened "Testers" properties and at Group

>> Policy menu created Group Policy Object linked to OU "Testers".

>>

>> There at GP Object I've changed setting required password complexity

>> and disabled it.

>>

>> Also I've blocked Policy Inheritance to disable applying Default

>> Domain Policy to my OU "Testers", cause there in Default Domain Policy

>> I have password complexity configured which I don't want to assign to

>> OU "Testers".

>>

>> My problem is that when I want to create user in OU "Testers" it

>> always warns me to use complex password, which is configured at

>> default domain policy. I can't create user with simple password what I

>> was planning to accomplish with creating Grup Policy Object for OU

>> "Testers".

>>

>>

>> How can I override default domain policy?

>> How can I assign custom group policy to specific OU?

>>

>> Thank you for answers!

>>

>

Guest Okramo
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

I've tried do the trick as you said, but I have the same thing

happening as before.

 

I found some info about my problem. In Win2k and Win2k3 you can have

just one Account and Password policy per domain.

 

This is some kind of limitation on Win2k and Win2k3 operating systems.

It should be fixed in next service pack or in next version of server

system.

 

To use more Password and Acc policies I should create child domains

and apply policies on them.

 

If someone knows other solution or trick please write it.

 

> afaik you CAN do this by using group policy filtering, Thus you CAN create

> different password policies in the same domain, the only thing is, you have

> to circumvent this by creation, I think the easiest way of doing so will be:

> create an account template for the testers, create a Security group called

> testers, put the template in the group and specify on the default doman

> policy that this policy is denied apply group policy to testers, (so testers

> do not GET ANY setting in this policy)

>

> (This is of the top of my head, if it works please report back,

> theoretically it should)

>

> --

> Good luck

>

> Eric Denekamphttp://blogs.infosupport.com/ericd

>

Guest Mathieu CHATEAU
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

I am sorry, but you can't. Any trick to make it would be dirty and may lead

to issues.

 

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

"Okramo" <okramo@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1187699698.556093.259220@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> I've tried do the trick as you said, but I have the same thing

> happening as before.

>

> I found some info about my problem. In Win2k and Win2k3 you can have

> just one Account and Password policy per domain.

>

> This is some kind of limitation on Win2k and Win2k3 operating systems.

> It should be fixed in next service pack or in next version of server

> system.

>

> To use more Password and Acc policies I should create child domains

> and apply policies on them.

>

> If someone knows other solution or trick please write it.

>

>

>> afaik you CAN do this by using group policy filtering, Thus you CAN

>> create

>> different password policies in the same domain, the only thing is, you

>> have

>> to circumvent this by creation, I think the easiest way of doing so will

>> be:

>> create an account template for the testers, create a Security group

>> called

>> testers, put the template in the group and specify on the default doman

>> policy that this policy is denied apply group policy to testers, (so

>> testers

>> do not GET ANY setting in this policy)

>>

>> (This is of the top of my head, if it works please report back,

>> theoretically it should)

>>

>> --

>> Good luck

>>

>> Eric Denekamphttp://blogs.infosupport.com/ericd

>>

>

Guest Eric Denekamp
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

darn I remember a work around like this somewhere, but I cannot recall, I

know multiple password policies will be available in Server 2008.

 

sorry I cannot help you any further.

 

--

Good luck

 

Eric Denekamp

http://blogs.infosupport.com/ericd

 

=============================

"Okramo" <okramo@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:1187699698.556093.259220@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> I've tried do the trick as you said, but I have the same thing

> happening as before.

>

> I found some info about my problem. In Win2k and Win2k3 you can have

> just one Account and Password policy per domain.

>

> This is some kind of limitation on Win2k and Win2k3 operating systems.

> It should be fixed in next service pack or in next version of server

> system.

>

> To use more Password and Acc policies I should create child domains

> and apply policies on them.

>

> If someone knows other solution or trick please write it.

>

>

>> afaik you CAN do this by using group policy filtering, Thus you CAN

>> create

>> different password policies in the same domain, the only thing is, you

>> have

>> to circumvent this by creation, I think the easiest way of doing so will

>> be:

>> create an account template for the testers, create a Security group

>> called

>> testers, put the template in the group and specify on the default doman

>> policy that this policy is denied apply group policy to testers, (so

>> testers

>> do not GET ANY setting in this policy)

>>

>> (This is of the top of my head, if it works please report back,

>> theoretically it should)

>>

>> --

>> Good luck

>>

>> Eric Denekamphttp://blogs.infosupport.com/ericd

>>

>

Guest ANIXIS
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

On Aug 21, 10:34 pm, Okramo <okr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've tried do the trick as you said, but I have the same thing

> happening as before.

>

> I found some info about my problem. In Win2k and Win2k3 you can have

> just one Account and Password policy per domain.

>

> This is some kind of limitation on Win2k and Win2k3 operating systems.

> It should be fixed in next service pack or in next version of server

> system.

>

> To use more Password and Acc policies I should create child domains

> and apply policies on them.

>

> If someone knows other solution or trick please write it.

>

>

>

> > afaik you CAN do this by using group policy filtering, Thus you CAN create

> > different password policies in the same domain, the only thing is, you have

> > to circumvent this by creation, I think the easiest way of doing so will be:

> > create an account template for the testers, create a Security group called

> > testers, put the template in the group and specify on the default doman

> > policy that this policy is denied apply group policy to testers, (so testers

> > do not GET ANY setting in this policy)

>

> > (This is of the top of my head, if it works please report back,

> > theoretically it should)

>

> > --

> > Good luck

>

> > Eric Denekamphttp://blogs.infosupport.com/ericd- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

 

There are only two ways to assign password policies by OU. Write your

own password filter, or buy a configurable one. MSDN has all the

details on how to write your own. Some people here advise against it

because of the risks involved. You'll need to make up your own mind on

this issue.

 

ANIXIS Password Policy Enforcer and Specops Password Policy can both

enforce policies by OU. I work for ANIXIS, so I will refrain from

making comments about either product here. Trial versions of both

products are available from their respective web sites.

Guest Chris Hills
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

Okramo wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I've created OU "Testers". Opened "Testers" properties and at Group

> Policy menu created Group Policy Object linked to OU "Testers".

>

> There at GP Object I've changed setting required password complexity

> and disabled it.

>

> Also I've blocked Policy Inheritance to disable applying Default

> Domain Policy to my OU "Testers", cause there in Default Domain Policy

> I have password complexity configured which I don't want to assign to

> OU "Testers".

>

> My problem is that when I want to create user in OU "Testers" it

> always warns me to use complex password, which is configured at

> default domain policy. I can't create user with simple password what I

> was planning to accomplish with creating Grup Policy Object for OU

> "Testers".

>

>

> How can I override default domain policy?

> How can I assign custom group policy to specific OU?

>

> Thank you for answers!

 

Hi

 

In a pre-server 2008 domain the only place in which the password

complexity group policy settings matter is to the ou containing the

domain controller holding the pdc emulator dsmo role. You cannot specify

different password policy for different ous unless you have a 2008 domain.

 

Regards

 

Chris

  • 8 months later...
Guest sulaiman mohammed
Posted

Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

If we want to remove password complexity requirement for users u should want to move that computers to that OU to make this policy affect.

 

that policy comes under the COMPUTER CONFIGURATION policy not intended for USER Configuration

Guest Meinolf Weber
Posted

Re: Override Default Domain Policy - how??

 

Hello sulaiman,

 

If you are talking about a PRE-2008 domain, then you have one password policy

on DOMAIN level. So you can just configure it there and it is for the complete

domain. If you just will remove the complexity part you have to set it under

computer configuration, that's the place where the password policy has to

be set, nowhere else.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> If we want to remove password complexity requirement for users u

> should want to move that computers to that OU to make this policy

> affect.

>

> that policy comes under the COMPUTER CONFIGURATION policy not intended

> for USER Configuration

>

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