Mandatory Roaming Profiles SLOW (XP, win 2003)

[Guest d33tz]

The logon process takes on average 90 seconds to complete. I am using folder

redirection for everything except Desktop. We simply don't allow the user to

update the desktop.

 

This is for a small University, with 60 desktops, and a userbase of 1000

students.

 

We have XP clients, connecting to a Windows 2003 DC. In ADUC the profile

path for each user is:

 

\\labcontroller\profiles$\%COMPUTERNAME%

 

So each computer has its own mandatory profile, which allows us to mix and

match hardware if needed. (i.e. 2 labs may not have the same type of

hardware, or may not have the same type of software installed)

 

I don't see any errors in my event log. When logging the userenv I see the

following:

 

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 FindTotalDiskSpaceNeeded: Largest 7 file size

is 2114411

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Available -430923776

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Needed 9103758

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Src size 6161733

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Dest size 0

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Largest hive file 2097152

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

ntuser.dat.LOG

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:130 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.dat.LOG ==>

C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.dat.LOG [OK]

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:130 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

ntuser.ini

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:163 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.ini ==>

C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.ini [OK]

USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:163 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

ntuser.man

USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:706 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.man ==>

C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.man [OK]

USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:706 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

ntuser.pol

USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:722 ReconcileFile: Unable to open temporary file

USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:722 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.pol ==>

C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.pol [OK]

USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:722 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Calling

ReconcileDirectory for all Directories

USERENV(284.288) 11:23:07:032 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Reconcile Directory

Done for all Directories

USERENV(284.eb8) 11:23:07:064 ReconcileFile:

E:\ICT204\workspace\.metadata\version.ini ==> C:\Documents and

Settings\chli\workspace\.metadata\version.ini [OK]

USERENV(284.9bc) 11:23:07:080 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204

 

The biggest gap is 11:22:24:163 to 11:23:03:706 which is almost 40 seconds.

There are no errors in the event viewer.

 

Currenlty the Domain Controller is under NO load. It is just one

workstation connecting to the DC.

 

I have also installed the XP hotfix outline in:

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;899409

 

I'd be interested in any hints or tips on how to troubleshoot this. Its

driving me nuts.

[Guest Mathieu CHATEAU]

Re: Mandatory Roaming Profiles SLOW (XP, win 2003)

 

Hello,

 

any antivirus ? Some may launch a scan on log on.

Is the "make offline" disabled on profiles shares (especially the redirected

desktop) (may help a bit) ?

 

Is the antivirus scanning on access on the DC ?

 

this roaming setup looks a bit strange to me, you may explain us what you

would like, so we may provide you our way to make it done

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

"d33tz" <d33tz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:82D9B87B-FACA-4501-8691-5F4BFF9BB346@microsoft.com...

> The logon process takes on average 90 seconds to complete. I am using

> folder

> redirection for everything except Desktop. We simply don't allow the user

> to

> update the desktop.

>

> This is for a small University, with 60 desktops, and a userbase of 1000

> students.

>

> We have XP clients, connecting to a Windows 2003 DC. In ADUC the profile

> path for each user is:

>

> \\labcontroller\profiles$\%COMPUTERNAME%

>

> So each computer has its own mandatory profile, which allows us to mix and

> match hardware if needed. (i.e. 2 labs may not have the same type of

> hardware, or may not have the same type of software installed)

>

> I don't see any errors in my event log. When logging the userenv I see

> the

> following:

>

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 FindTotalDiskSpaceNeeded: Largest 7 file

> size

> is 2114411

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Available -430923776

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Needed 9103758

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Src size 6161733

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Dest size 0

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 Largest hive file 2097152

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:079 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

> ntuser.dat.LOG

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:130 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.dat.LOG ==>

> C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.dat.LOG [OK]

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:130 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

> ntuser.ini

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:163 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.ini ==>

> C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.ini [OK]

> USERENV(284.288) 11:22:24:163 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

> ntuser.man

> USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:706 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.man ==>

> C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.man [OK]

> USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:706 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Found hive file

> ntuser.pol

> USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:722 ReconcileFile: Unable to open temporary file

> USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:722 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204\ntuser.pol ==>

> C:\Documents and Settings\chli\ntuser.pol [OK]

> USERENV(284.288) 11:23:03:722 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Calling

> ReconcileDirectory for all Directories

> USERENV(284.288) 11:23:07:032 CopyProfileDirectoryEx: Reconcile Directory

> Done for all Directories

> USERENV(284.eb8) 11:23:07:064 ReconcileFile:

> E:\ICT204\workspace\.metadata\version.ini ==> C:\Documents and

> Settings\chli\workspace\.metadata\version.ini [OK]

> USERENV(284.9bc) 11:23:07:080 ReconcileFile: E:\ICT204

>

> The biggest gap is 11:22:24:163 to 11:23:03:706 which is almost 40

> seconds.

> There are no errors in the event viewer.

>

> Currenlty the Domain Controller is under NO load. It is just one

> workstation connecting to the DC.

>

> I have also installed the XP hotfix outline in:

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;899409

>

> I'd be interested in any hints or tips on how to troubleshoot this. Its

> driving me nuts.

>

>

[Guest d33tz]

Re: Mandatory Roaming Profiles SLOW (XP, win 2003)

 

I had Symantec Corp Edition installed, but I uninstalled it and it still does

the same thing. I'm pretty sure I set all the make offline disabled stuff.

I'll have to double check.

 

As for the setup.

 

We have 4 labs, each with 15 computers each. All the computers in a

particular lab have identical hardware and software. Presumably each lab

would have different software isntalled. For instance, a lab for computer

majors would have programming tools installed. One for math majors would

have math tools installed. We can't afford the licenses to licesnese every

computer in every lab with all software packages. However we want all

students to be able to log into ALL labs.

 

We use mandatory profiles on each computer to ensure the users wll be able

to see the appropriate software, and have the correct setup associated with

that computer. This means our profiles directory has 60 profiles (one for

each computer) as opposed to a thousand profiles (one for each user)

 

We used to have it set up this way when we had a linux server running samba.

Now we are trying to migrate to a windows 2003 domain controller and are

running into problems (slow logins)

 

 

 

"Mathieu CHATEAU" wrote:

> Hello,

>

> any antivirus ? Some may launch a scan on log on.

> Is the "make offline" disabled on profiles shares (especially the redirected

> desktop) (may help a bit) ?

>

> Is the antivirus scanning on access on the DC ?

>

> this roaming setup looks a bit strange to me, you may explain us what you

> would like, so we may provide you our way to make it done

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>

>

>

[Guest Mathieu CHATEAU]

Re: Mandatory Roaming Profiles SLOW (XP, win 2003)

 

how big are these profiles ? 25MB ?

 

About shortcuts, if they are in the "all users", everyon that log on the

workstation will have them (and only when logged on this station)

 

Letting student with their own profile allow them to have individual

application preference (like the drawing bar in word as a sample)

 

 

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

 

 

"d33tz" <d33tz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:1A385223-558D-4F5E-8A72-064009310352@microsoft.com...

>I had Symantec Corp Edition installed, but I uninstalled it and it still

>does

> the same thing. I'm pretty sure I set all the make offline disabled

> stuff.

> I'll have to double check.

>

> As for the setup.

>

> We have 4 labs, each with 15 computers each. All the computers in a

> particular lab have identical hardware and software. Presumably each lab

> would have different software isntalled. For instance, a lab for computer

> majors would have programming tools installed. One for math majors would

> have math tools installed. We can't afford the licenses to licesnese

> every

> computer in every lab with all software packages. However we want all

> students to be able to log into ALL labs.

>

> We use mandatory profiles on each computer to ensure the users wll be able

> to see the appropriate software, and have the correct setup associated

> with

> that computer. This means our profiles directory has 60 profiles (one for

> each computer) as opposed to a thousand profiles (one for each user)

>

> We used to have it set up this way when we had a linux server running

> samba.

> Now we are trying to migrate to a windows 2003 domain controller and are

> running into problems (slow logins)

>

>

>

> "Mathieu CHATEAU" wrote:

>

>> Hello,

>>

>> any antivirus ? Some may launch a scan on log on.

>> Is the "make offline" disabled on profiles shares (especially the

>> redirected

>> desktop) (may help a bit) ?

>>

>> Is the antivirus scanning on access on the DC ?

>>

>> this roaming setup looks a bit strange to me, you may explain us what you

>> would like, so we may provide you our way to make it done

>>

>> --

>> Cordialement,

>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>

>>

>>

[Guest d33tz]

Re: Mandatory Roaming Profiles SLOW (XP, win 2003)

 

"Mathieu CHATEAU" wrote:

> how big are these profiles ? 25MB ?

>

If I go into the profiles directory on the server and right click on a

profile and see its properties, it reads at just a little over 5mb.