Guest Joan Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Can someone answer these questions please? - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description and I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my PC for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are really useful to the kind of user I am. - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not see too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special benefits. Please comment, I always learn from responses here. Thanks, Joan
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't see yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you aren't, the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more secure, but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until they stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will be more mature. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Can someone answer these questions please? > > - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and really > necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description and I didn't > understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my PC for email, > photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific information. Not too > happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are really useful to the kind > of user I am. > > - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not see > too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special benefits. > > Please comment, I always learn from responses here. > Thanks, Joan >
Guest Joan Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have IE6.1 as you mention. My version is listed as ; 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a newer version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I mentioned, so what should I do? Thanks again. Joan "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't see > yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you aren't, > the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. > > I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more secure, > but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until they > stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will be more > mature. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Can someone answer these questions please? >> >> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and >> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description and I >> didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my PC for >> email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific information. >> Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are really useful to >> the kind of user I am. >> >> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not see >> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special >> benefits. >> >> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. >> Thanks, Joan >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. > > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have IE6.1 as > you mention. My version is listed as ; > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a newer > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I mentioned, > so what should I do? > > Thanks again. Joan > > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't see >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you aren't, >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. >> >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more secure, >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until they >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will be more >> mature. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Can someone answer these questions please? >>> >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description and >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my PC >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. >>> >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not see >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special >>> benefits. >>> >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. >>> Thanks, Joan >>> >> >> > >
Guest Joan Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices I suppose if one rounds it up, it is 6.1, oh well modern math is rrrrreally different.... Thanks, Gary. Joan "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. >> >> I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have IE6.1 >> as you mention. My version is listed as ; >> 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a newer >> version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I mentioned, >> so what should I do? >> >> Thanks again. Joan >> >> >> >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't see >>> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you aren't, >>> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. >>> >>> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more secure, >>> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until >>> they stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will >>> be more mature. >>> >>> -- >>> Gary S. Terhune >>> MS-MVP Shell/User >>> http://www.grystmill.com >>> >>> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Can someone answer these questions please? >>>> >>>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and >>>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description and >>>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my PC >>>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific >>>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are >>>> really useful to the kind of user I am. >>>> >>>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not see >>>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special >>>> benefits. >>>> >>>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. >>>> Thanks, Joan >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest David Webb Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted in IE Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates waiting for IE 6. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. | | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com | | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. | > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have IE6.1 as | > you mention. My version is listed as ; | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a newer | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I mentioned, | > so what should I do? | > | > Thanks again. Joan | > | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't see | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you aren't, | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. | >> | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more secure, | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until they | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will be more | >> mature. | >> | >> -- | >> Gary S. Terhune | >> MS-MVP Shell/User | >> http://www.grystmill.com | >> | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? | >>> | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description and | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my PC | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. | >>> | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not see | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special | >>> benefits. | >>> | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. | >>> Thanks, Joan | >>> | >> | >> | > | > | |
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices There is no SP2 for IE. There *is* an SP2 for Windows XP. You find the version number for most apps in Help>About. For Windows itself, you find it in the System properties (System applet in Control Panel, or right-click the desktop icon, then Properties.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message news:eXo6AiL5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? > > I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted in IE > Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. > > I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates waiting > for IE > 6. > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. > | > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. > | > > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have > IE6.1 as > | > you mention. My version is listed as ; > | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a newer > | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I > mentioned, > | > so what should I do? > | > > | > Thanks again. Joan > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't > see > | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you > aren't, > | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. > | >> > | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more > secure, > | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until > they > | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will be > more > | >> mature. > | >> > | >> -- > | >> Gary S. Terhune > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | >> http://www.grystmill.com > | >> > | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? > | >>> > | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and > | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description > and > | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my > PC > | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific > | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are > | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. > | >>> > | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not > see > | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special > | >>> benefits. > | >>> > | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. > | >>> Thanks, Joan > | >>> > | >> > | >> > | > > | > > | > | > >
Guest David Webb Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices You need to get up-to-speed on these revision levels, just don't make them up as you go along. See this tech article which references IE6 SP2: How to troubleshoot problems accessing secure Web pages with Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 2 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870700 I have IE 6 SP2 installed, as shown in IE Help|About. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:OfVUbbM5HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | There is no SP2 for IE. There *is* an SP2 for Windows XP. You find the | version number for most apps in Help>About. For Windows itself, you find it | in the System properties (System applet in Control Panel, or right-click the | desktop icon, then Properties.) | | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | http://www.grystmill.com | | "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message | news:eXo6AiL5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | > Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? | > | > I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted in IE | > Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. | > | > I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates waiting | > for IE | > 6. | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message | > news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | > | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. | > | | > | -- | > | Gary S. Terhune | > | MS-MVP Shell/User | > | http://www.grystmill.com | > | | > | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. | > | > | > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have | > IE6.1 as | > | > you mention. My version is listed as ; | > | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a newer | > | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I | > mentioned, | > | > so what should I do? | > | > | > | > Thanks again. Joan | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message | > | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | > | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you don't | > see | > | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you | > aren't, | > | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. | > | >> | > | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more | > secure, | > | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least until | > they | > | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will be | > more | > | >> mature. | > | >> | > | >> -- | > | >> Gary S. Terhune | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User | > | >> http://www.grystmill.com | > | >> | > | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | > | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? | > | >>> | > | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical and | > | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the description | > and | > | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use my | > PC | > | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific | > | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they are | > | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. | > | >>> | > | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do not | > see | > | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special | > | >>> benefits. | > | >>> | > | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. | > | >>> Thanks, Joan | > | >>> | > | >> | > | >> | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices Wanna tell me where to get IE6 SP2? What is the full version number of your IE? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message news:ecFAlDP5HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > You need to get up-to-speed on these revision levels, just don't make them > up as > you go along. > > See this tech article which references IE6 SP2: > > How to troubleshoot problems accessing secure Web pages with Internet > Explorer 6 > Service Pack 2 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870700 > > I have IE 6 SP2 installed, as shown in IE Help|About. > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:OfVUbbM5HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | There is no SP2 for IE. There *is* an SP2 for Windows XP. You find the > | version number for most apps in Help>About. For Windows itself, you find > it > | in the System properties (System applet in Control Panel, or right-click > the > | desktop icon, then Properties.) > | > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message > | news:eXo6AiL5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? > | > > | > I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted in > IE > | > Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. > | > > | > I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates > waiting > | > for IE > | > 6. > | > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. > | > | > | > | -- > | > | Gary S. Terhune > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | > | > | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. > | > | > > | > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have > | > IE6.1 as > | > | > you mention. My version is listed as ; > | > | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a > newer > | > | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I > | > mentioned, > | > | > so what should I do? > | > | > > | > | > Thanks again. Joan > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | > | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you > don't > | > see > | > | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you > | > aren't, > | > | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. > | > | >> > | > | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more > | > secure, > | > | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least > until > | > they > | > | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will > be > | > more > | > | >> mature. > | > | >> > | > | >> -- > | > | >> Gary S. Terhune > | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > | >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > | >> > | > | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? > | > | >>> > | > | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical > and > | > | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the > description > | > and > | > | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use > my > | > PC > | > | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific > | > | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they > are > | > | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. > | > | >>> > | > | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do > not > | > see > | > | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special > | > | >>> benefits. > | > | >>> > | > | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. > | > | >>> Thanks, Joan > | > | >>> > | > | >> > | > | >> > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > | > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices PS -- Hmmm... While I need to say that it isn't infrequent that the KB has erroneous info, you appear to be right that they arbitrarily decided that IE in XPSP2 is to be called SP2. Makes no nevermind, AFAIC, it's probably the same thing as IESP1, which included real changes. But thanks for pointing that out. Still, I think it's kind of irrelevant. If you have XPSP2 installed, it has to be IE6SP2 or IE7. There' is no stand-alone IE6SP2 for, say, WinXP SP1. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message news:ecFAlDP5HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > You need to get up-to-speed on these revision levels, just don't make them > up as > you go along. > > See this tech article which references IE6 SP2: > > How to troubleshoot problems accessing secure Web pages with Internet > Explorer 6 > Service Pack 2 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870700 > > I have IE 6 SP2 installed, as shown in IE Help|About. > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:OfVUbbM5HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | There is no SP2 for IE. There *is* an SP2 for Windows XP. You find the > | version number for most apps in Help>About. For Windows itself, you find > it > | in the System properties (System applet in Control Panel, or right-click > the > | desktop icon, then Properties.) > | > | -- > | Gary S. Terhune > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message > | news:eXo6AiL5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? > | > > | > I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted in > IE > | > Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. > | > > | > I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates > waiting > | > for IE > | > 6. > | > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. > | > | > | > | -- > | > | Gary S. Terhune > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User > | > | http://www.grystmill.com > | > | > | > | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. > | > | > > | > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have > | > IE6.1 as > | > | > you mention. My version is listed as ; > | > | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a > newer > | > | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I > | > mentioned, > | > | > so what should I do? > | > | > > | > | > Thanks again. Joan > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > | > | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | > | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you > don't > | > see > | > | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you > | > aren't, > | > | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. > | > | >> > | > | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more > | > secure, > | > | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least > until > | > they > | > | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will > be > | > more > | > | >> mature. > | > | >> > | > | >> -- > | > | >> Gary S. Terhune > | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User > | > | >> http://www.grystmill.com > | > | >> > | > | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? > | > | >>> > | > | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical > and > | > | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the > description > | > and > | > | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use > my > | > PC > | > | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific > | > | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they > are > | > | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. > | > | >>> > | > | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do > not > | > see > | > | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special > | > | >>> benefits. > | > | >>> > | > | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. > | > | >>> Thanks, Joan > | > | >>> > | > | >> > | > | >> > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > | > >
Guest David Webb Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices Good. Now that you understand this, what about your statement concerning the IE 6.1 version? Where did you get that from? You said, "You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math." "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:uWegEoP5HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > PS -- Hmmm... While I need to say that it isn't infrequent that the KB has > erroneous info, you appear to be right that they arbitrarily decided that IE > in XPSP2 is to be called SP2. Makes no nevermind, AFAIC, it's probably the > same thing as IESP1, which included real changes. > > But thanks for pointing that out. Still, I think it's kind of irrelevant. If > you have XPSP2 installed, it has to be IE6SP2 or IE7. There' is no > stand-alone IE6SP2 for, say, WinXP SP1. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message > news:ecFAlDP5HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > You need to get up-to-speed on these revision levels, just don't make them > > up as > > you go along. > > > > See this tech article which references IE6 SP2: > > > > How to troubleshoot problems accessing secure Web pages with Internet > > Explorer 6 > > Service Pack 2 > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870700 > > > > I have IE 6 SP2 installed, as shown in IE Help|About. > > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > news:OfVUbbM5HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > | There is no SP2 for IE. There *is* an SP2 for Windows XP. You find the > > | version number for most apps in Help>About. For Windows itself, you find > > it > > | in the System properties (System applet in Control Panel, or right-click > > the > > | desktop icon, then Properties.) > > | > > | -- > > | Gary S. Terhune > > | MS-MVP Shell/User > > | http://www.grystmill.com > > | > > | "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message > > | news:eXo6AiL5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > | > Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? > > | > > > | > I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted in > > IE > > | > Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. > > | > > > | > I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates > > waiting > > | > for IE > > | > 6. > > | > > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > | > news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > | > | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. > > | > | > > | > | -- > > | > | Gary S. Terhune > > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User > > | > | http://www.grystmill.com > > | > | > > | > | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > | > | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > | > | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. > > | > | > > > | > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not have > > | > IE6.1 as > > | > | > you mention. My version is listed as ; > > | > | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have a > > newer > > | > | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I > > | > mentioned, > > | > | > so what should I do? > > | > | > > > | > | > Thanks again. Joan > > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > > | > | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > | > | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you > > don't > > | > see > > | > | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if you > > | > aren't, > > | > | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. > > | > | >> > > | > | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is more > > | > secure, > > | > | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least > > until > > | > they > > | > | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 will > > be > > | > more > > | > | >> mature. > > | > | >> > > | > | >> -- > > | > | >> Gary S. Terhune > > | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User > > | > | >> http://www.grystmill.com > > | > | >> > > | > | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > | > | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > | > | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? > > | > | >>> > > | > | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update critical > > and > > | > | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the > > description > > | > and > > | > | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just use > > my > > | > PC > > | > | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific > > | > | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless they > > are > > | > | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. > > | > | >>> > > | > | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and do > > not > > | > see > > | > | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of special > > | > | >>> benefits. > > | > | >>> > > | > | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. > > | > | >>> Thanks, Joan > > | > | >>> > > | > | >> > > | > | >> > > | > | > > > | > | > > > | > | > > | > | > > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Wndows update choices 1. I was wrong, she has IE6 SP2. FWIW, I spend most of my time assisting Win9x users, and SP1 is as high as it goes. And I still can't find more than a couple of KB articles that even mention IE6 SP2. The one you cite and another listing IE versions. Whereas SP1 has a ton of references. No excuse, just an explanation. 2. When you round a figure like 6.0.2900.2180, you don't get 6.1, much less 6.2. Lots of folks don't realize that the version number in Help\About, especially for MS products, doesn't have a really close relation to the common name for the version. That's why Joan thought she only had 6.0. If that doesn't answer you question, please rephrase. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message news:OdSWCPS5HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Good. Now that you understand this, what about your statement concerning > the IE > 6.1 version? Where did you get that from? > > You said, "You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math." > > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:uWegEoP5HHA.4676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> PS -- Hmmm... While I need to say that it isn't infrequent that the KB >> has >> erroneous info, you appear to be right that they arbitrarily decided that >> IE >> in XPSP2 is to be called SP2. Makes no nevermind, AFAIC, it's probably >> the >> same thing as IESP1, which included real changes. >> >> But thanks for pointing that out. Still, I think it's kind of irrelevant. >> If >> you have XPSP2 installed, it has to be IE6SP2 or IE7. There' is no >> stand-alone IE6SP2 for, say, WinXP SP1. >> >> -- >> Gary S. Terhune >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> http://www.grystmill.com >> >> "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message >> news:ecFAlDP5HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > You need to get up-to-speed on these revision levels, just don't make >> > them >> > up as >> > you go along. >> > >> > See this tech article which references IE6 SP2: >> > >> > How to troubleshoot problems accessing secure Web pages with Internet >> > Explorer 6 >> > Service Pack 2 >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/870700 >> > >> > I have IE 6 SP2 installed, as shown in IE Help|About. >> > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > news:OfVUbbM5HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> > | There is no SP2 for IE. There *is* an SP2 for Windows XP. You find >> > the >> > | version number for most apps in Help>About. For Windows itself, you >> > find >> > it >> > | in the System properties (System applet in Control Panel, or >> > right-click >> > the >> > | desktop icon, then Properties.) >> > | >> > | -- >> > | Gary S. Terhune >> > | MS-MVP Shell/User >> > | http://www.grystmill.com >> > | >> > | "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message >> > | news:eXo6AiL5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> > | > Where do you find this version level (IE 6.1) noted/documented? >> > | > >> > | > I'm running WinXP SP2 with IE 6 SP2. There is no such version noted >> > in >> > IE >> > | > Help|About, or in PC audit reports from Belarc Advisor and AIDA32. >> > | > >> > | > I do have IE 7 blocked from Windows Update, and I have no updates >> > waiting >> > | > for IE >> > | > 6. >> > | > >> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > | > news:%23wh4NUH5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> > | > | You have IE 6.1, Joan. Don't ask, I didn't teach them math. >> > | > | >> > | > | -- >> > | > | Gary S. Terhune >> > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User >> > | > | http://www.grystmill.com >> > | > | >> > | > | "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > | > | news:eGpDNLH5HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> > | > | > Thanks for the information, it did help me make a decision. >> > | > | > >> > | > | > I agree with your rational for staying with IE6 but I do not >> > have >> > | > IE6.1 as >> > | > | > you mention. My version is listed as ; >> > | > | > 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.0070227-2254. Am I supposed to have >> > a >> > newer >> > | > | > version than I have? I have done all updates except the ones I >> > | > mentioned, >> > | > | > so what should I do? >> > | > | > >> > | > | > Thanks again. Joan >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message >> > | > | > news:eQxMU3F5HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > | > | >> If an Update is marked Critical, install it. Just because you >> > don't >> > | > see >> > | > | >> yourself using it doesn't mean you aren't using it. Even if >> > you >> > | > aren't, >> > | > | >> the stuff is there on your machine and vulnerable. >> > | > | >> >> > | > | >> I prefer IE6.1, others prefer IE7. Supposedly the latter is >> > more >> > | > secure, >> > | > | >> but that's mostly a matter of idiot-proofing, AFAICT. At least >> > until >> > | > they >> > | > | >> stop supporting IE6.1, I'll continue to use it. By then, IE7 >> > will >> > be >> > | > more >> > | > | >> mature. >> > | > | >> >> > | > | >> -- >> > | > | >> Gary S. Terhune >> > | > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User >> > | > | >> http://www.grystmill.com >> > | > | >> >> > | > | >> "Joan" <joanramu2@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > | > | >> news:e21NzkF5HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> > | > | >>> Can someone answer these questions please? >> > | > | >>> >> > | > | >>> - Is the "Microsoft Core XML Services (MSXML)" update >> > critical >> > and >> > | > | >>> really necessary for all Windows users? Why? I read the >> > description >> > | > and >> > | > | >>> I didn't understand it well enough to make a choice. I just >> > use >> > my >> > | > PC >> > | > | >>> for email, photo editing, specialied shopping and scientific >> > | > | >>> information. Not too happy to keep adding XP updates unless >> > they >> > are >> > | > | >>> really useful to the kind of user I am. >> > | > | >>> >> > | > | >>> - I still have IE6. Again I have read on updating to IE7 and >> > do >> > not >> > | > see >> > | > | >>> too much of a gain in updating unless I am not aware of >> > special >> > | > | >>> benefits. >> > | > | >>> >> > | > | >>> Please comment, I always learn from responses here. >> > | > | >>> Thanks, Joan >> > | > | >>> >> > | > | >> >> > | > | >> >> > | > | > >> > | > | > >> > | > | >> > | > | >> > | > >> > | > >> > | >> > | >> > >> > >> >> > >
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